Hi, I understand how you feel. I had a similar revelation a week ago. But one thing to keep in mind, is that everyone hides their "true" personalities to a certain extent when we're out in the world. It's how societies function. Us aspies just have to do this a lot more than the NTs.
Hello Mia. I am a 31 year-old Aspie male and I can really relate to what you said about being proud to pass as NT. Most of the time it's easy for me because I'm so high-functioning. I don't even think about it most of the time.
Mira What the hell is normal? See im supposed to be normal but being abstract in mind I am wondering how you chipped that one tooth? Your face was overly flushed red in this vid too. See there is no norm the more you find out about people the more little differences come out. So forget fitting in its not possible because you cant control thought and people will think what they want I SAY SCREW EM IF THEY CANT TAKE JOKE!!!!!!!!
@ajushi10 You wondered how I chipped my tooth. I was pushed by a boy in 1st grade onto my face on the asphalt, removing my upper lip, and chipping up my teeth. Fun stuff.
I couldn't help but smile when you said you still skip in the office now & again lol
I have always had the tendency to do certain 'things' spontaneously.
The last time was after a team meeting at work, we'd already had 3 that day, I decided my legs had done enough walking back and forth, so I remained sitting on my chair, which was a computer chair, and pushed myself with my feet down the corridor, across the main office into my little office =) people looked very confused lol
I thought about this the other day. I only recently got diagnosed. I'm 20 so I've had to grow up in absolute mystery as to why I was always the weird one. What seems normal to me and what seems to make sense to me in my head doesn't seem to click with others at all and they laugh and act surprised when I talk about stuff sometimes. I hate pretending to be normal. It's a nerve-racking stage act. I keep getting it wrong. I'd rather be myself and let the pretenders be the weird ones for a change.
@xdr8390 yeah, NTs are really good at not saying anything about things sometimes. Like they won't tell you if you have a booger hanging outta your nose. LOL
@TheSchemer1 i think it's a horseshit label, but i've been to a new doctor who believes i have signs of an aspie .... the problem was i never considered myself an aspie nor did it cross my mind at anytime i've been in the same room 1 on 1 with a doctor who has only known me 5 minutes and says i have signs of an aspie. she just happens to know an aspie. well i have an anxiety disorder but i don't see where that fits in with aspie.... not to say being an aspie would be any diff, than usual. blah.
I don't feel like I'm hiding who I really am because a) I feel no strain with this - I'm not forcing myself to do anything, it's more like making it a habit.
b) The bits of me that I hide are parts of me that were getting in the way and was making situations with other people awkward. When I'm with other people now, I actually feel *less* of a strain. I never used to enjoy talking to people before - I do now.
God, none of this sounds like I wanted it to. Oh well.
Though I didn't put it very clearly in the video, what I really meant was being able to be in control of my aspergers - I have a lot of friends who love my littles OCDs, my little mannerisms. But only because I can control them - I used to actually scare people with my inability to control my emotions. It was quite off-putting.
Why should I have the luxury of hiding my differences merely because they are easily (or not so easily) hidden... when a dwarf or a blind person or a person with a prosthetic arm don't get that luxury.
IT makes me think ... i love your channel! I will tell you why later but lets just say that everything you have said that I have seen so far .. I can soooo relate. The same with Aspergianstar2009's channel. Wow I am glad I stayed on the pc tonight lookin and pokin around YT!
Ya, wow, no wonder my brain's TIRED! Thanks for this epiphany! I am in my late 40's, just learned I've been an Aspie all my life LAST YEAR! You hit the nail on the head! All joking aside, I'd have to say that sometimes it is LESS stressful to "put on" the "NT mask" just to avoid the stress of people looking at you like "wow, she's weird" and therefore reducing that anxiety... so... sometimes mightn't we choose to put on that mask to maintain our own serenity? Thanks again.
Just drink some strong larger and amazingly you become NT. Try it. I have found a lot of NTs become aspie after a strong drink. They lose co-ordinational skills and find it hard to make eye contact
Passing as normal means a lot to me as well, but it also carries the problem of being who you are.
So there are problems with "being normal" when having AS. The problem I face is the hypocrisy of being myself while trying to make others feel less uncomfortable with me being myself.
It used to bother me what others think of me. I sometimes wish I could go the parties or even be invited to a few. Then again my NT friend wanted me to go to her 40th Birthday Party immediatly it was a melt down. I know I get on with her, but her friends .... well I don't know. I seem to look different or act different that makes me a target. I also feel that people treat me negitively. I don't know why that is either. Maybe cause I look like I can be pushed around. Although I am 6ft 4
I felt that way in high school. But damn, once you get out in the world, the word normal gets pretty skewed...I'd rather be a stable aspie than a fvkin out of control "NT".
I was trying to be normal for YEARS I never knew that I was an Aspie till my son was diagnosed. I let go of trying to be normal and my stress level went WAYYYYY down. To find that I was not alone is terrific and now I am BLOOMING!!!
It takes a lot of energy to put on like they wish, especially if they are not as they say they should be either. :D It is frustrating to feel guilt for losing cool over not being that supergal then.
It's funny about how all of us aspergians have to feel like we have to act, or put on a play just to have the "Normies" not freak out about us because they can't read our body language. I gave up a long time ago, I don't have the energy to put on the play just to make people feel comfortable around me. I can do it for a while, but it just sucks so much energy out of me, I'm just drained at the end of the day. I know, I've lost many jobs because of missing too many days. Take care. KYLE
I just got diagnosed, as an adult, and its taken me this long to be able ready to handle it. You're spot on, and for a long time I've wanted to find the place where I can be me, not have to change myself to fit in with the place, but I think she's pretty young, and probably hasn't had the opportunity to work those things out at school and with peer pressure, and no alternatives to look at and compare.
Thats my word that is I used to say bleeper and another one of mine is the neem word which apparantly is a form of soap. Neeming is when you are getting on someones nerves. Neemer is an endering term. NEEEM in caps means angry or getting agitated. LOL
am NT lol,but being NT doesnt mean ur normal lol,it just means ur not on the autistic specturm or at least u havent been dx as one,but being neutro typical doesnt mean ur normal u can be an NT and be friggin abnormal
Hi Mia, that's enlightening. I am a TG who just happened to come across your video during some random surfing.
Many TS/TG people invest a lot of energy in passing as their desired sex and entering stealth-mode i.e. hiding their past. However truth is I believe everyone of us have our own unique qualities. Hiding our past or our differences will inevitably keep us from realising our full potential.
Obviously that doesn't meen we shouldn't let us inspire by other people, however.
There are times when it does upset me that to be accepted I have to pretend to be 'normal'. If I don't do things which aren't natural to me people won't accept me. I am not proud to be able to hide my AS because that is what I am doing however it allows me success. Oh and to everyone who says having AS is normal what planet are you on? Like all other illnesses and diseases it is not 'normal', normal in that context means a healthy average person.
A few months back I decided that I would stop worrying about what people think about my Aspergers behaviors/traits. Expending all kinds of mental energy trying to be normal isn't worth it. Suppressing AS behaviors implies that they are wrong or bad. Flapping your hands isn't bad. We need to work to make our society more accepting rather than trying to conform in ways that are unnatural to us. People with visible disabilities don't have the option to pass as "normal".
I guess you could say that pretending to be anything you aren't Sucks in general, unless you are acting in a movie or conning someone on purprose ;) It's just boring to do things in a way you are expected to..
Oh and by the way, Fuck you Tanjakoch you damn conformist! Go run along with all the other sheep-le! You were so way off base I can only assume that you are an idiot.
Right. I wish it were a free world without prejudice. I'd like to skip... really I would. I still swing on the swings, the urge is too huge to resist. Yeah I have a friend who says, "Yeah I hung out with him... he seemed pretty cool" to which I answer, "Yeah so did Ted Bundy, OK?!?!?"
You can rest assured Mia, Your meaning comes in loud and clear. As for Myself, I've had to work hard to build up My interpersonal communication skills, learning to feign "normal" things, like eye contact and smiling when I deal with customers. Whilst time to time I still catch Me talking to Myself in private or pace back & forth when I muse upon something, I've found out that a good portion of the time most NTs don't pay that much attention to a passerby if He doesn't draw attention to Himself.
However, I do have to admit that While ethically and Psychologically We should have the right to be left unmolested in our happy aspie mannerisms, unfortunately the world around Us frowns upon any behavior, no matter how harmless or benign, that doesn't seem to be "normal", as if this was some indicator of a person's sanity. Serial killers, such as the Greenriver Killer and the B.T.K. Killer Looked perfectly normal, and no one suspected a thing. In fact, They were liked by most that knew them.
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Asspie pride? WTF is that? Is that like having Nazi pride or White pride? How about you stop being such a fucking rebel for no reason, everyone hates people who are rebels for no reason, and actually try to work with the world instead of saying "FTW! I'm going to do what I want!" There are places for people who do that; there're called prisons.
being an aspie is NORMAL...NT is not the measure of normal. I am proud to be an aspie... since I found out I am one... I expect people to respecdt myself as an aspie. maybe it comes easier as we get older.. * am in my late 50s and just don't need nor give a hoot what NT's needs are..:)
I agree.. I am a master at passing as a NT... for 56 yrs... and I am tired of having to placate their needs...why are NTs so sensitive it has to be THEIR way? Perhaps we just need to educate them so they can at least come half way and let us be ourselves.
First of all I want to write, you seem like a cool person and brave for vid posting like do. But it appears that you find your identity as a person in the fact that you have a disorder that makes you 'different' or stand out. You don't find people with other medical hardships that fly such a lable. It would be like ' I'm a 'luki' I have leukimia'
Asperger's isn't a medical disability and won't kill you like leukemia. Referencing AS with cancer is just ignorant. I wonder, do you tell black people not to think of themselves as black, or do you ask them to think of themselves as pink, because we are all pink inside. Do you think being a minority might shape your world view?
It isn't fair to compare Autism to diseases like leukemia. In this context you can compare it to other disabilities though. My friend Dave isn't ashamed of the fact that he has a disability and uses a wheelchair. And we shouldn't be ashamed of the fact that we have Autism. Dave can't hide his disability. Even though we might be able to pass as normal. We shouldn't have to.
If I was to go around prentending to be a pink elephant they would lock me in a rubber room, and normal is just as much a figment of societies imagination as pink elephants are. Its much more sane to just be myself.
When I stop acting thats when I find people like me best anyway. My BF Johnny is very noticeably Aspie and people LOVE him to death, he is always just himself. To each their own however. But I can see where it wouldn't work to rock in a business meeting, or flap while face to face with a Customer? Video response... please.
Tell them to fuck off if they can't appreciate you for being yourself. Why should you change if they're not gonna change their negative attitudes just because they're in the majority? Fucking sheep.
when i took the test they said i am very likely and probably have aspergers syndrome, the score was like 172 out of 200
Astronautical123 6 months ago
Hi, I understand how you feel. I had a similar revelation a week ago. But one thing to keep in mind, is that everyone hides their "true" personalities to a certain extent when we're out in the world. It's how societies function. Us aspies just have to do this a lot more than the NTs.
hilby 1 year ago
The best thing we can do with those who have been diagnosed with Aspberger's Syndrome is to kill them. Only normal people deserve to live.
LycanthropicAsshole 1 year ago
Hello Mia. I am a 31 year-old Aspie male and I can really relate to what you said about being proud to pass as NT. Most of the time it's easy for me because I'm so high-functioning. I don't even think about it most of the time.
~Pete
Clarkson, ON
MrPmj1979 1 year ago
BTW MIRA MEANS LOOK IN SPANISH I STARTED LAST COMMENT WITH THAT.
ajushi10 1 year ago
Mira What the hell is normal? See im supposed to be normal but being abstract in mind I am wondering how you chipped that one tooth? Your face was overly flushed red in this vid too. See there is no norm the more you find out about people the more little differences come out. So forget fitting in its not possible because you cant control thought and people will think what they want I SAY SCREW EM IF THEY CANT TAKE JOKE!!!!!!!!
ajushi10 1 year ago
@ajushi10 You wondered how I chipped my tooth. I was pushed by a boy in 1st grade onto my face on the asphalt, removing my upper lip, and chipping up my teeth. Fun stuff.
miasansom 1 year ago
@ajushi10 Also my face was flushed because I have a skin disorder.
miasansom 1 year ago
I couldn't help but smile when you said you still skip in the office now & again lol
I have always had the tendency to do certain 'things' spontaneously.
The last time was after a team meeting at work, we'd already had 3 that day, I decided my legs had done enough walking back and forth, so I remained sitting on my chair, which was a computer chair, and pushed myself with my feet down the corridor, across the main office into my little office =) people looked very confused lol
cliobaby 1 year ago
I thought about this the other day. I only recently got diagnosed. I'm 20 so I've had to grow up in absolute mystery as to why I was always the weird one. What seems normal to me and what seems to make sense to me in my head doesn't seem to click with others at all and they laugh and act surprised when I talk about stuff sometimes. I hate pretending to be normal. It's a nerve-racking stage act. I keep getting it wrong. I'd rather be myself and let the pretenders be the weird ones for a change.
NiamhFrancisPianist 1 year ago
We cannot pass as NT-some very unobservant NTs may not spot you are different but the majority of them will though they say nothing.
xdr8390 1 year ago
@xdr8390 yeah, NTs are really good at not saying anything about things sometimes. Like they won't tell you if you have a booger hanging outta your nose. LOL
miasansom 1 year ago
if you called me a neurotypical, i'd call you a typical idiot. :)
Riv3r69 1 year ago
@Riv3r69 Neurotypical.
TheSchemer1 1 year ago
@TheSchemer1 i think it's a horseshit label, but i've been to a new doctor who believes i have signs of an aspie .... the problem was i never considered myself an aspie nor did it cross my mind at anytime i've been in the same room 1 on 1 with a doctor who has only known me 5 minutes and says i have signs of an aspie. she just happens to know an aspie. well i have an anxiety disorder but i don't see where that fits in with aspie.... not to say being an aspie would be any diff, than usual. blah.
Riv3r69 1 year ago
@Riv3r69 All labels are like that, even if it's about something as awesome as aspergers.
TheSchemer1 1 year ago
@TheSchemer1 oh yes, i'm proud to have a disease... :/
Riv3r69 1 year ago
what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Riv3r69 1 year ago
@Riv3r69 if you say gander enough times,it sounds funny
Riv3rQu33n 1 year ago
@Riv3rQu33n ...... smartie.
Riv3r69 1 year ago
@Riv3r69 :)
Riv3rQu33n 1 year ago
ginnyisdacoolest can say or feel however she wants.its her video.
Riv3rQu33n 2 years ago
ginnyisdacoolest can say or feel however she wants,its her video.
Riv3rQu33n 2 years ago
I don't feel like I'm hiding who I really am because a) I feel no strain with this - I'm not forcing myself to do anything, it's more like making it a habit.
b) The bits of me that I hide are parts of me that were getting in the way and was making situations with other people awkward. When I'm with other people now, I actually feel *less* of a strain. I never used to enjoy talking to people before - I do now.
God, none of this sounds like I wanted it to. Oh well.
ginnyisdacoolest 2 years ago
Though I didn't put it very clearly in the video, what I really meant was being able to be in control of my aspergers - I have a lot of friends who love my littles OCDs, my little mannerisms. But only because I can control them - I used to actually scare people with my inability to control my emotions. It was quite off-putting.
ginnyisdacoolest 2 years ago
Why should I have the luxury of hiding my differences merely because they are easily (or not so easily) hidden... when a dwarf or a blind person or a person with a prosthetic arm don't get that luxury.
isaacdealey 2 years ago
IT makes me think ... i love your channel! I will tell you why later but lets just say that everything you have said that I have seen so far .. I can soooo relate. The same with Aspergianstar2009's channel. Wow I am glad I stayed on the pc tonight lookin and pokin around YT!
hcg4T 2 years ago
Ya, wow, no wonder my brain's TIRED! Thanks for this epiphany! I am in my late 40's, just learned I've been an Aspie all my life LAST YEAR! You hit the nail on the head! All joking aside, I'd have to say that sometimes it is LESS stressful to "put on" the "NT mask" just to avoid the stress of people looking at you like "wow, she's weird" and therefore reducing that anxiety... so... sometimes mightn't we choose to put on that mask to maintain our own serenity? Thanks again.
sybeve 2 years ago
Just drink some strong larger and amazingly you become NT. Try it. I have found a lot of NTs become aspie after a strong drink. They lose co-ordinational skills and find it hard to make eye contact
Aspergianstar2009 2 years ago
Passing as normal means a lot to me as well, but it also carries the problem of being who you are.
So there are problems with "being normal" when having AS. The problem I face is the hypocrisy of being myself while trying to make others feel less uncomfortable with me being myself.
I think you conveyed the issue very well.
DavinCreed 2 years ago
Sure. It is all about acting, imitating and trying to be as inspontaneous as possible ;-)
But then it must so relaxing to be able to be among people who understand your abnormal traits. Or to be by yourself. To regain power.
marcelbas 3 years ago
Hooray I'm normal!!! Oops... what IS normal anyway? LOL
miasansom 3 years ago
LOL indeed.
nancyrellaallegro 2 years ago
@miasansom Something you are definetely not, and that's good! Don't be normal, be yourself.
TheSchemer1 1 year ago
It used to bother me what others think of me. I sometimes wish I could go the parties or even be invited to a few. Then again my NT friend wanted me to go to her 40th Birthday Party immediatly it was a melt down. I know I get on with her, but her friends .... well I don't know. I seem to look different or act different that makes me a target. I also feel that people treat me negitively. I don't know why that is either. Maybe cause I look like I can be pushed around. Although I am 6ft 4
Aspergianstar2009 3 years ago
I felt that way in high school. But damn, once you get out in the world, the word normal gets pretty skewed...I'd rather be a stable aspie than a fvkin out of control "NT".
chloroxjello 3 years ago
I was trying to be normal for YEARS I never knew that I was an Aspie till my son was diagnosed. I let go of trying to be normal and my stress level went WAYYYYY down. To find that I was not alone is terrific and now I am BLOOMING!!!
nagaempress 3 years ago
It takes a lot of energy to put on like they wish, especially if they are not as they say they should be either. :D It is frustrating to feel guilt for losing cool over not being that supergal then.
televisionmemories 3 years ago
Thanks for your comment. you are absolutely correct.
miasansom 3 years ago
It's funny about how all of us aspergians have to feel like we have to act, or put on a play just to have the "Normies" not freak out about us because they can't read our body language. I gave up a long time ago, I don't have the energy to put on the play just to make people feel comfortable around me. I can do it for a while, but it just sucks so much energy out of me, I'm just drained at the end of the day. I know, I've lost many jobs because of missing too many days. Take care. KYLE
akai454 3 years ago
I just got diagnosed, as an adult, and its taken me this long to be able ready to handle it. You're spot on, and for a long time I've wanted to find the place where I can be me, not have to change myself to fit in with the place, but I think she's pretty young, and probably hasn't had the opportunity to work those things out at school and with peer pressure, and no alternatives to look at and compare.
bleepersweeper 3 years ago
Thats my word that is I used to say bleeper and another one of mine is the neem word which apparantly is a form of soap. Neeming is when you are getting on someones nerves. Neemer is an endering term. NEEEM in caps means angry or getting agitated. LOL
Aspergianstar2009 3 years ago
am NT lol,but being NT doesnt mean ur normal lol,it just means ur not on the autistic specturm or at least u havent been dx as one,but being neutro typical doesnt mean ur normal u can be an NT and be friggin abnormal
kazza224 3 years ago
Hi Mia, that's enlightening. I am a TG who just happened to come across your video during some random surfing.
Many TS/TG people invest a lot of energy in passing as their desired sex and entering stealth-mode i.e. hiding their past. However truth is I believe everyone of us have our own unique qualities. Hiding our past or our differences will inevitably keep us from realising our full potential.
Obviously that doesn't meen we shouldn't let us inspire by other people, however.
TenderGenderBender 3 years ago
Thanks for making this.
chloroxjello 3 years ago
I understand where you are coming from.
There are times when it does upset me that to be accepted I have to pretend to be 'normal'. If I don't do things which aren't natural to me people won't accept me. I am not proud to be able to hide my AS because that is what I am doing however it allows me success. Oh and to everyone who says having AS is normal what planet are you on? Like all other illnesses and diseases it is not 'normal', normal in that context means a healthy average person.
frelledsenseless 3 years ago
A few months back I decided that I would stop worrying about what people think about my Aspergers behaviors/traits. Expending all kinds of mental energy trying to be normal isn't worth it. Suppressing AS behaviors implies that they are wrong or bad. Flapping your hands isn't bad. We need to work to make our society more accepting rather than trying to conform in ways that are unnatural to us. People with visible disabilities don't have the option to pass as "normal".
purplemutantas 4 years ago
I guess you could say that pretending to be anything you aren't Sucks in general, unless you are acting in a movie or conning someone on purprose ;) It's just boring to do things in a way you are expected to..
Laurenzissimo 4 years ago
Oh and by the way, Fuck you Tanjakoch you damn conformist! Go run along with all the other sheep-le! You were so way off base I can only assume that you are an idiot.
miasansom 4 years ago
Right. I wish it were a free world without prejudice. I'd like to skip... really I would. I still swing on the swings, the urge is too huge to resist. Yeah I have a friend who says, "Yeah I hung out with him... he seemed pretty cool" to which I answer, "Yeah so did Ted Bundy, OK?!?!?"
miasansom 4 years ago
You can rest assured Mia, Your meaning comes in loud and clear. As for Myself, I've had to work hard to build up My interpersonal communication skills, learning to feign "normal" things, like eye contact and smiling when I deal with customers. Whilst time to time I still catch Me talking to Myself in private or pace back & forth when I muse upon something, I've found out that a good portion of the time most NTs don't pay that much attention to a passerby if He doesn't draw attention to Himself.
Wolffur 4 years ago
However, I do have to admit that While ethically and Psychologically We should have the right to be left unmolested in our happy aspie mannerisms, unfortunately the world around Us frowns upon any behavior, no matter how harmless or benign, that doesn't seem to be "normal", as if this was some indicator of a person's sanity. Serial killers, such as the Greenriver Killer and the B.T.K. Killer Looked perfectly normal, and no one suspected a thing. In fact, They were liked by most that knew them.
Wolffur 4 years ago
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Asspie pride? WTF is that? Is that like having Nazi pride or White pride? How about you stop being such a fucking rebel for no reason, everyone hates people who are rebels for no reason, and actually try to work with the world instead of saying "FTW! I'm going to do what I want!" There are places for people who do that; there're called prisons.
TanjaKoch 4 years ago
being an aspie is NORMAL...NT is not the measure of normal. I am proud to be an aspie... since I found out I am one... I expect people to respecdt myself as an aspie. maybe it comes easier as we get older.. * am in my late 50s and just don't need nor give a hoot what NT's needs are..:)
Yetti0 4 years ago
I agree.. I am a master at passing as a NT... for 56 yrs... and I am tired of having to placate their needs...why are NTs so sensitive it has to be THEIR way? Perhaps we just need to educate them so they can at least come half way and let us be ourselves.
Yetti0 4 years ago
First of all I want to write, you seem like a cool person and brave for vid posting like do. But it appears that you find your identity as a person in the fact that you have a disorder that makes you 'different' or stand out. You don't find people with other medical hardships that fly such a lable. It would be like ' I'm a 'luki' I have leukimia'
votejamie08 4 years ago
Asperger's isn't a medical disability and won't kill you like leukemia. Referencing AS with cancer is just ignorant. I wonder, do you tell black people not to think of themselves as black, or do you ask them to think of themselves as pink, because we are all pink inside. Do you think being a minority might shape your world view?
christschool 4 years ago
It isn't fair to compare Autism to diseases like leukemia. In this context you can compare it to other disabilities though. My friend Dave isn't ashamed of the fact that he has a disability and uses a wheelchair. And we shouldn't be ashamed of the fact that we have Autism. Dave can't hide his disability. Even though we might be able to pass as normal. We shouldn't have to.
purplemutantas 4 years ago
If I was to go around prentending to be a pink elephant they would lock me in a rubber room, and normal is just as much a figment of societies imagination as pink elephants are. Its much more sane to just be myself.
Very thought provoking video. Thank you.
aleigirl 4 years ago
When I stop acting thats when I find people like me best anyway. My BF Johnny is very noticeably Aspie and people LOVE him to death, he is always just himself. To each their own however. But I can see where it wouldn't work to rock in a business meeting, or flap while face to face with a Customer? Video response... please.
miasansom 4 years ago
Tell them to fuck off if they can't appreciate you for being yourself. Why should you change if they're not gonna change their negative attitudes just because they're in the majority? Fucking sheep.
peegai2 4 years ago
if you dont understand why, my video might be longer than expected...
NT emulation is a tool.
BumsenDK 4 years ago
ill have to reply to this, maybe even with a video... i DO feel that i must pass as NT simply because i will FAIL otherwise. ill elaborate soon!
thnx for posting!
BumsenDK 4 years ago