I have to disagree with the turks here. I am against the privatization of prisons, and of course I want free Americans to have jobs, but the prisoners have to do something while they are in prison, and prison is not supposed to be a day spa. You cannot compare prisoners to slaves because the crime of an American slave was being born with a certain skin color. The crime of theses people is murder, rape, theft. I think it is a good thing if they are doing something good for the country.
@genungapearl the criminals being those damn terrorist pot smokers (majority in prision) or the illegals who come to destroy america and not for a better life, right?
prinsoners have always done manual work for the longest time, this is nothing new. if they do jobs like ..idk..paving streets or something that would usually be paid withthe government money from taxes, that's one thing., but if they are doing work for private businesses...eh. yeahnotso good
Then, the devil who was bucking for a promotion said to the other devils around the table, "Why should we let them have paying jobs and bargaining power through unions, when old fashioned slavery has always worked so well for us?"
@Alone1onO They commited crimes, so they are paying for their mistakes through work. It is not for their entire lives, so you can not compare it to a slave who has to work from birth to the day they die. Also, almost all of these programs are voluntary so most of these inmates are not forced to do it.
@acdc30450 okay, but that's not the point. The point is that people who aren't imprisoned need these jobs. But companies figure why give to regular people, why not give jobs to prisoners, we don't have to pay them a cent.
black people were given housing too when they were slaves but they were still slaves now we act like they are part of society but we dont treat thjem full there is still corruption in the law system where innocent people of minority races are discriminated against and thrown in jail although there are about equal ammouts of criminals in all races we foget what human is this is just wrong they are trying to do their time and being taken advantage of (a un proud white 15 year old boy)
@GezzaOhagan Kid, don't talk about stuff you do not completely under stand. Yes, a lot of innocent people who are in prison are African American, but not all of them. As much as you hate to here this, the reason more blacks are in prison than other races is because blacks commit crimes at a higher rate than other races. America may not be perfect, but even our minorities and poor have it a lot better than they do in most other countries in the world.
@acdc30450 yeah true that, that's the thing no one realizes. I'm seeing minorities with cable tv and iphones these days, lol you know everyone just takes everything for granted. smh
@drmgrl11 Well to be fair, you can't tear some one down for having a luxury, even if they are poor. But you can not shoot off your mouth about stuff you do not fully under stand like people who call the US a racist/fascist/puppy hating regime.
At the end of the day we can take comfort that the youtube community is full of whiny kids who want to play Che on the internet.
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That's a good point, but i did say non-violent crimes (I think ;( If someone is in jail for possession, or robbery, any non-violent crime. There's people sitting in jail for 10 years for a pound of pot, i'm sure they would be more than happy to get out of jail to serve his country, I would never recommend our soldiers be with violent criminals...thats kind of crazy if you think about it, we're there basically to take the bad guys out....but i get your point
I would have to disagree. This is not slavery if anything that are actually indentured servants. I am so sick and tired of prisoners complain that they are being treated unfairly. I was this show on MSNBC called Lockup and the prisoners always complain about the treatment they recieve. I am believe that once you go to prison that you have no rights. If prisoners do not want to be treated unfairly then don'tcommit the crime.
@theclawism I realize this is very common. That doesn't prove it is not slave labor however. This isn't community service or an "internship." These people- mostly adults are not being paid for their labor- this is slavery. In addition, the amount of labor they put in does not lead to changes in their sentence(shorter sentence, etc.).
Private prisons especially for-profit prisons should be illegal. If the government can't afford the prisons, it needs to stop criminalizing everything and engaging in mass incarceration.
Private prison is a fucking scam. You can't privatize prison. You cannot promote imprisonment with lots of money, that is doomed from the start. What did people really think was going to happen when they privatized the prisons?
private prisons should be outlawed, their supporters removed from power. huge conflict of interest when youre paying a company per prisoner, out of the tax payers pocket, and youre letting them profit off of slave labor from prisoners that may not even deserve prison, because youre incentivizing imprisonment. i just read about that stupid judge that got paid 1mil to send young kids to privately run detention centers. these folks need to be tarred and feathered.
@inesison basically im trying to say should a potentially innocent person have to goto war or do manual labor just because there attourney never did there job? there are alot more people who are not guilty than anyone wants to admit so should they be treated like criminals even though they are innocent? these private companies and prisons are the reason for alot of wrongful convictions. in the american system u have to prove your innocents. unless ofcourse u have casey anthonys lawyer.
@DesBlackmore The problem that is not raised in this report is that the laws on prison labor have been set up to allow these industries to be self sufficient. None of the $5 billion in profits from this labor is being used to offset the costs of incarceration paid for by the taxpayers. We pay for their housing, clothing, medical and food, so a viable and healthy workforce is available to these exploiters.
@inesison Thanks,I appreciate what you are saying, but what do we do when all the local pols are in the tank with the bad guys? I'm not saying that is necessarily true in my town or state, but it is true in a number of other states. But I do agree with your suggestion. Thanks :-)
probably the only issue that i disagree with TYT about. In the UK we have community service and i think ALL prisoners should be made to pay back to society. in britain its run by the government so i can understand why ana and cenk hate how its all corprate.
@gibbonsthegreat Think about it....when a prison gets paid "per prisoner", and if you happen to live in Arizona, you would have gotten a very large campaign contribution from the private prison. After election suddenly mexicans were the problem. Forget the fact that crime and crime comitted by illegals has gone done 5 years in a row. Even if a person is wrongly jailed, the prison still gets paid. What a racket. Innocent arrested, state makes money. This country is fucked up
@inesison what about the huge percentage of innocent people should we give them the choice to goto war? or do we lock them up and make them do slave labor? im not picking on you but its something that always seems to be overlooked when talking about prisons and prisoners
@acekicksaxe We are assuming that they are guilty. I didn't say they had to do it. It's a choice. Not sure what effect it would have on a innocent person. If he chooses not to go, he'll be in jail anyway until his lawyer get a new hearing. I'm not getting your point. Regardless what they choose they're still doing time. From what i understand there are plenty of prisoners who would work for pennies just to get out of prison even for a few hours.
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@DesBlackmore without you realizing it, you just admitted to advocating slave labor. Rehash your thoughts in your head, before you put finger to keyboard.
I'm in support of Prison Labor because prison is supposed to be a system of rehabilitation. However, I am not in favor of inexcusably low wage, forced prison labor.
This is what Free-market anarchism....looks like !
It is funny that many Americans who make the case in favor of the freemarket, don't see this is the end goal of capitalism ....feudalism, aristocracy, plutocracy and slavery !
I disagree with Cenk. This has nothing to do with "capitalism." If you been paying attention, America has become a feudal country, where just about anything can land you in prison. Once you are convicted of a crime, you have become a slave to the union or corporation according the 13th amendment.
What the hell is wrong with you people? Doing slave labour should be part and parcel of being in prison. I agree with your points about corruption and people trying get more people in prison, but you've only addressed the dumb arguments. Even if there wasn't a profit motive, this should be part of their punishment, they should be made to give back to society. They should do the shittiest jobs without pay. Capitalism gone wrong is jobs for jobs sake.
@jimmi161 If someone else is willing to do your job for a lower wage than you, then you are just a bad deal. You're a bad deal for corporations and capitalism dictates that you should not be hired. By forcing companies to hire Americans for a "fair" wage you are stopping capitalism. You don't want to work as hard as people from the rest of the world? Then turn back time to before multinational corporations that can outsource to anywhere or get used to living on the breadline.
@coolman9999uk Thats not capitalism, thats corporatism, uninformed liberals are always confusing the two. And I agree Clinton was an awful president since he signed NAFTA and sent all jobs over seas so corporations could get cheap slave labor.
@jimmi161 Did you even read what I wrote. I'm saying exporting jobs is a good thing. A bad thing for you since you don't get what you would call "fair" pay, but better for companies, and competition in the world economy - that is capitalist and good my friend. "Fair" is what you're worth. I'm sure you could also say it could be viewed as corporatist too, but a single course of action can be consistent with multiple ideologies. You instead need to adapt - go print some t shirts or something.
I thought africa was the corupted place but now i can see it right in front of me......America is becoming bad example for the rest of the world which are trying to adopt the american way of life......am sure now they will all change their mind and focus on diffrent way of life or appriciate and live the life they have now.VERY SAD to see all this poletician been sold out just like that.
They have prison labour in Marion County Florida and it works very well . The prisoners are not forced to work but most want to for the extra perks you get and it makes the time go by quicker . The benefit to the people is it defrays the cost the prisoners are to society . They should do this everywhere .
This is what needs to happen, we need to all as a community decide the changes we want made, communicate that list (such as end of corporate personhood, raising taxes on the rich, end of oil subsidies, imprisonment for bought out regulators, just to name a few) throughout all social network, let it gain a lot of momentum and backing through millions and millions of Americans, and we peacefully demand the actions on that list be taken, it's time for America to reflect the will of her people.
Let's be honest. Does anyone REALLY think that there's anything that can be done to pull back the corruption that has been unleashed in this country?
What pisses me off about the left is that they have no sense of urgency. While they're sitting around and bitching about things, multinational corporations and global capitalists are ensuring that their power will become entrenched.
@mistara31415 well, he agreed that corporatism is bad for capitalism, but to be honest, capitalism always leads to fascism. You allow business to gain power unfettered, its going to buy the power structure or create a power structure.
bad bad bad idea in the early 1980s the American penal system thought it would be profitable to sell blood products from inmates. It happens such products made their way to Europe and people like Haemophiliacs, leukaemia sufferers were given the products that included HIV contaminated blood. A lot of people died due to profit. Stay the hell away from prisoners making a profit if it includes ideas like this.
The Gilded Age (Part Deux) isn't over, this shit is gonna get a fair bit more worse until it gets better. I thought Obama would fight it, but either he can't or he doesn't want to.
The public is deluded or fast asleep. I can't tell. I guess we need 50% unemployment before people take to the streets and start a fucking revolution.
@kray97 Do you really think it will get better? Tycoons in the Gilded Age were puny in comparison to the multinational corporations that call the shots in today's economy. Even if we wanted to pull back on the destruction that has been done, we couldn't do it. I don't even think Teddy Roosevelt would be able handle this.
As for a revolution, we wouldn't know what to do even if half this country had the balls to fight back. I just don't see things ever getting better, at least for America.
Seriously, you guys have to recapture your own damned country before you have to build a new one from the rubble left behind by the corporate pillagers...
I fucking hate republicans, conservatives and tea party members. Kill them all, and let their god sort it out. Good luck America, you are gonna need it.
So you do this story and never even mention race??? For godsake read Michelle Alexander's The New Jim Crow. Or track down her interview with Bill Moyers from last year. First slavery; then Jim Crow; now mass incarceration -- three systems with one goal: maintaining a racial caste system in the USA. Hard evidence backs it up. The prison-for-profit system is just one aspect of it.
1.Cheap Labor by minorities....yet were anti immigration...
2.We are land of the free and the brave but we need to see your papers because you look like a foreigner and foreigners are scary.
3.We talk about all those Communist countries where most were poor and a few corrupt individuals were rich yet some how we ended up with the same system...
You don't have a Congressman a senator or police department because they all belong to the rich elite police puts our young men and women in jail to support the prison industrial Corporation they use our armies to plunder the world we haven't fought for freedom since World War II we only have mercenaries now that's why no one is concerned about dead soldiers the rich do not care about young men they will kill them for profit
@NaziGOPBallmer Bullshit! Capitalism logically ends up with Fascism. Small corporations buy up smaller companies when they out compete them to make huge multinational corporations that are too big to fail so the government and banks has to bail them out rather than wrecking the whole country's economy. Economically they become bigger than countries so they just BUY the government.
What you just describe is no longer Capitalism, but Capitalism when not kept in check. You see, when free market doesn't have enough government regulation, you have things like feudalism, aristocracy, and plutocracy. However, when governments over regulate everything to the point of owning all, then you have Communism and Socialism. However, I believe that Capitalism lies between both where you have a balance of free market and government regulation.
So is Lex Luthor secretly running U.S. Government, because this sounds like the work of an evil genius, soon you would have death races an running man type of tv shows.
@NeccoWecco Nope, in China if you're convicted of murder or stealing millions of dollars the government just shoots you, otherwise they try to reform you with education camps (no anal rapes or shanks allowed, otherwise they will still shoot you).
@excitonoch,No I'm talking about slave labor because the Roman Government used slaves to do the work while working Roman citizens didn't get any jobs.
my problem with this is, they are basicly forcing the prisoners to do these jobs. it would be better if it was a volunteer type thing, where prisoners could sign up to work of their own volition.
that still wount solve the problem of taking jobs away from citizens who need the jobs though.
i love republicans trolling putting ads on tyt videos and shit thats all they are doing just trolling because no one watching this is gonna buy what they are selling
I disagree entirely with the point TYT made. I do think only murderers or other high offenders(no petty theft, drug use offences) should be doing something useful. This only works with a massively reformed USA though, so it's not realistic.
@TheJT33 You are kind of missing the point. Allot of things in this video are glossed over but the big thing is that they are making it increasingly easier to throw people into prison (mostly bullshit laws they make up) and on minor drug charges. They do this to line their prisons with people (private prisons make more money the more people they incarcerate) and then to make MORE money they take American jobs away and work people like slaves instead of rehabilitation or helping them.
@TheJT33 Send them to war. Give non-violent criminals the choice of serving their country for 2 years, and have their sentence reduced or suspended. First it would give criminals some pride for helping their country, it would help with over crowding of our prisons, and best of all it would be less money in the pockets of the private prisons who get paid per inmate.
@coopclauson I think there are way too many labels thrown out there, progressive, moderate conservative, liberal, a right wing progressive moderate with a touch of liberal. I don't know what i am . I believe with the amount of taxes we pay, the government should help us when we need it. I don't believe in Welfare Queens, I think people should work if there is work. I would go for the death penalty for cold blooded murder, but only when there is no doubt. So what would I be? No smart asses lol
@inesison In the US you'd be called a progressive/leftie. Right-wingism in the USA these days is no government (except military), no publicly-funded schools, no social security, medicare, medicaid. i.e. the notion that government only has a "spending problem" (i.e. it should spend nothing, except on military), no democracy, no taxes on rich people.
Basically it's Tea Party/Glenn Beck/Ron Paul/Koch Bros. Most Americans are progressive, as is the US constitution, despite much false propaganda.
@coopclauson Sorry about that, i was pointing out that there were so many labels put on people that i wasn't even sure what i was. You mentioned fascism, on other sites people accuse others of being a progressive liberal, progressive moderate, so i was confused and asked a general question, not directed to you so much but just an explanation and thanks to @thenavigateur i know what i am - thanks to all
@inesison You don't have to accept any labels anybody puts on you. Just because I said that in the USA, Fox News might call you a progressive fascist nazi leftie, it doesn't mean they're right, especially since Fox News knows jack shit.
I call myself a reasoning-guided-justice-ist. There's more than one dimension. There's reason-guided-legislature (democracy) vs person-based-dictatorship (me:democracy), accountability vs freedom (me: accountability), transparency vs privacy (me:transparency).
@inesison What I'm pointing out is that I *believe* there is a technical definition of fascism put together by academics who study this stuff. Like a clinical diagnosis, "if a society meets x out of y of the following criteria, then it's technically fascist". Close collusion between government and large industry is, I believe, one of them.
@inesison And if there's a quid pro quo between government and industry in which industry supports government while government strips people of civil rights in order for them to be used as cheap labor by industry, I would be very surprised if that didn't weigh heavily in favor of a society being technically fascist.
They shouldn't be in unskilled labor? Are you really defending the prisoners and taking the side of these people? How american is that - take a job away from law abiding citizens and give it to a prisoner. Keep in mind, they have prisoners with all kinds of skills, your job might be next.
Btw slave labor is exactly how th U.S. became the wealthy superpower it once was. Don't believe me? Take a remedial history/econ class.are we dumb enough to believe the government doesn't get that too? These assholes will do just about anything for superficial power and wealth. Superficial meaning not anything the average american will see benefit from.
I said this six months ago. We're giving jobs to the penal system that will do the work at $2.12 an hour and then the average contractor loses that job and pays the costs for said prison via taxes. Plez grab the lube before you fuck us in the ass. At least it will sting less.
If Communism is the extreme version of Socialism, then what we see here (the private prisons etc) is the extreme version of Capitalism. The US has basically become a corporate Plutocracy.
the young turks are full of shit, these remind me of glen beck....they feed of of alex jones and then spin off on what he uncovers and finds out.
this young turk show is for some reason jealous of Alex Jones.
Do your own work and quit trying to make someone look bad by making shit up, or really help and team up
freestylmx311 2 weeks ago
I have to disagree with the turks here. I am against the privatization of prisons, and of course I want free Americans to have jobs, but the prisoners have to do something while they are in prison, and prison is not supposed to be a day spa. You cannot compare prisoners to slaves because the crime of an American slave was being born with a certain skin color. The crime of theses people is murder, rape, theft. I think it is a good thing if they are doing something good for the country.
genungapearl 4 weeks ago
@genungapearl the criminals being those damn terrorist pot smokers (majority in prision) or the illegals who come to destroy america and not for a better life, right?
RGOC2012 3 days ago
there goes ALEC again.
eethry 4 weeks ago
You have to pay to live.
1776bricks 1 month ago
This is America?? The Occupy Movement is the best hope to putting an end to this financial tyranny.
MrTraffik07 3 months ago 3
That's why u stay away from prison, if we had that here I don't think we would have high rate of criminality....
friendly78 3 months ago
prinsoners have always done manual work for the longest time, this is nothing new. if they do jobs like ..idk..paving streets or something that would usually be paid withthe government money from taxes, that's one thing., but if they are doing work for private businesses...eh. yeahnotso good
drmgrl11 4 months ago
The art of war
usaintltrade 5 months ago
War rich vs poor
usaintltrade 5 months ago
fuck the sistem and not the labor profit ;( people from prison need too work and this is a god way too made things ;(
tiagomendes1983 6 months ago
I learned about this in The Shawshank Redemption
Vyna80 6 months ago
The Shawshank Redemption pretty much summarize this.
TheLivirus 6 months ago
Then, the devil who was bucking for a promotion said to the other devils around the table, "Why should we let them have paying jobs and bargaining power through unions, when old fashioned slavery has always worked so well for us?"
Alone1onO 6 months ago
@Alone1onO They commited crimes, so they are paying for their mistakes through work. It is not for their entire lives, so you can not compare it to a slave who has to work from birth to the day they die. Also, almost all of these programs are voluntary so most of these inmates are not forced to do it.
acdc30450 4 months ago
@acdc30450 okay, but that's not the point. The point is that people who aren't imprisoned need these jobs. But companies figure why give to regular people, why not give jobs to prisoners, we don't have to pay them a cent.
drmgrl11 4 months ago
Compare this video to these videos found in the channel AlJazeeraEnglish, type:
Philippine prison orchestra performs
Behind the Philippine 'Thriller' video - 29 July 07
Philippine convicts turn fashion designers - 23 April 2008
Ya it's a bit biased but these are what caught my eyes.
DarkR0ze 6 months ago
black people were given housing too when they were slaves but they were still slaves now we act like they are part of society but we dont treat thjem full there is still corruption in the law system where innocent people of minority races are discriminated against and thrown in jail although there are about equal ammouts of criminals in all races we foget what human is this is just wrong they are trying to do their time and being taken advantage of (a un proud white 15 year old boy)
GezzaOhagan 6 months ago
@GezzaOhagan Kid, don't talk about stuff you do not completely under stand. Yes, a lot of innocent people who are in prison are African American, but not all of them. As much as you hate to here this, the reason more blacks are in prison than other races is because blacks commit crimes at a higher rate than other races. America may not be perfect, but even our minorities and poor have it a lot better than they do in most other countries in the world.
acdc30450 4 months ago
@acdc30450 yeah true that, that's the thing no one realizes. I'm seeing minorities with cable tv and iphones these days, lol you know everyone just takes everything for granted. smh
drmgrl11 4 months ago
@drmgrl11 Well to be fair, you can't tear some one down for having a luxury, even if they are poor. But you can not shoot off your mouth about stuff you do not fully under stand like people who call the US a racist/fascist/puppy hating regime.
At the end of the day we can take comfort that the youtube community is full of whiny kids who want to play Che on the internet.
acdc30450 4 months ago
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TheAnnafisher 6 months ago
Words you would never hear on US/UK television. Well stated, mate.
guywithface99 6 months ago
I'll see all y'all mother fuckers in jail.....
supernova901 6 months ago
That was deep, i have to give that some thought
inesison 6 months ago
That's a good point, but i did say non-violent crimes (I think ;( If someone is in jail for possession, or robbery, any non-violent crime. There's people sitting in jail for 10 years for a pound of pot, i'm sure they would be more than happy to get out of jail to serve his country, I would never recommend our soldiers be with violent criminals...thats kind of crazy if you think about it, we're there basically to take the bad guys out....but i get your point
inesison 6 months ago
This actually employs over 2 million jobs...to prisoners.
No place that holds people captive should have jobs there anyway, obviously, unless it's to keep prisoners from escaping or make license plates.
PercyCTV 6 months ago
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PercyCTV 6 months ago
I would have to disagree. This is not slavery if anything that are actually indentured servants. I am so sick and tired of prisoners complain that they are being treated unfairly. I was this show on MSNBC called Lockup and the prisoners always complain about the treatment they recieve. I am believe that once you go to prison that you have no rights. If prisoners do not want to be treated unfairly then don'tcommit the crime.
godslove1976 6 months ago
thanks to our broken system, we are turning into a fucking 3rd world country. Thanks GOP!
eric3844 6 months ago
So why not just put every American citizen in the country inn jail who isn't a millionaire?
carminethewolf 6 months ago
@theclawism unpaid labor is "slave labor" period.
Moionfire 6 months ago
@Moionfire Not when you're serving hard time. In fact, this is very common for people who commit misdemeanors.
theclawism 6 months ago
@theclawism I realize this is very common. That doesn't prove it is not slave labor however. This isn't community service or an "internship." These people- mostly adults are not being paid for their labor- this is slavery. In addition, the amount of labor they put in does not lead to changes in their sentence(shorter sentence, etc.).
Moionfire 6 months ago
@Moionfire We'll just have to agree to disagree.
theclawism 6 months ago
Private prisons especially for-profit prisons should be illegal. If the government can't afford the prisons, it needs to stop criminalizing everything and engaging in mass incarceration.
Moionfire 6 months ago
@Moionfire Ok, this I will agree with you on. ;)
theclawism 6 months ago
Private prison is a fucking scam. You can't privatize prison. You cannot promote imprisonment with lots of money, that is doomed from the start. What did people really think was going to happen when they privatized the prisons?
philateliceun 6 months ago
private prisons should be outlawed, their supporters removed from power. huge conflict of interest when youre paying a company per prisoner, out of the tax payers pocket, and youre letting them profit off of slave labor from prisoners that may not even deserve prison, because youre incentivizing imprisonment. i just read about that stupid judge that got paid 1mil to send young kids to privately run detention centers. these folks need to be tarred and feathered.
payasoinfeliz 6 months ago
This really is old news. They've been doing this for a long time.
fightforyourrights9 6 months ago
why do we not hear any of this on the 6 o'clock news? Because we live in a Corporate facists police state of slave labor profiteers.
MCHESTER29 6 months ago
@inesison basically im trying to say should a potentially innocent person have to goto war or do manual labor just because there attourney never did there job? there are alot more people who are not guilty than anyone wants to admit so should they be treated like criminals even though they are innocent? these private companies and prisons are the reason for alot of wrongful convictions. in the american system u have to prove your innocents. unless ofcourse u have casey anthonys lawyer.
acekicksaxe 6 months ago
@Packerd01 I can only say learn english. I was clear.
waltermh111 6 months ago
@DesBlackmore The problem that is not raised in this report is that the laws on prison labor have been set up to allow these industries to be self sufficient. None of the $5 billion in profits from this labor is being used to offset the costs of incarceration paid for by the taxpayers. We pay for their housing, clothing, medical and food, so a viable and healthy workforce is available to these exploiters.
TheBobSloan 6 months ago
Here's my question to everyone: what can we do? Protest? You'll probably end up in jail. Write a letter to your congressman? You'll get ignored.
Anybody have any ideas?
upsilon054 6 months ago
@upsilon054 VOTE, VOTE, VOTE
inesison 6 months ago
@inesison Thanks,I appreciate what you are saying, but what do we do when all the local pols are in the tank with the bad guys? I'm not saying that is necessarily true in my town or state, but it is true in a number of other states. But I do agree with your suggestion. Thanks :-)
upsilon054 6 months ago
dam sometimes i just got to give it up to the man for his super evil and highly intelligent master plans. they put lex luthor to shame
ridimwave 6 months ago
probably the only issue that i disagree with TYT about. In the UK we have community service and i think ALL prisoners should be made to pay back to society. in britain its run by the government so i can understand why ana and cenk hate how its all corprate.
gibbonsthegreat 6 months ago
@gibbonsthegreat Think about it....when a prison gets paid "per prisoner", and if you happen to live in Arizona, you would have gotten a very large campaign contribution from the private prison. After election suddenly mexicans were the problem. Forget the fact that crime and crime comitted by illegals has gone done 5 years in a row. Even if a person is wrongly jailed, the prison still gets paid. What a racket. Innocent arrested, state makes money. This country is fucked up
inesison 6 months ago
A plot of human terror unfolds behind the precinct doors, to cage all the minorities, the immigrants and poor.
FUCK
resincoatedlungs 6 months ago
It makes me think about Deadman Wonderland.
RealTenryuken 6 months ago
Loving Ana's outfit today! A little bit of country peasant style... ;p
songOmatic 6 months ago
Al Qaida should invest in US prisons !
nickst0ne 6 months ago
@inesison what about the huge percentage of innocent people should we give them the choice to goto war? or do we lock them up and make them do slave labor? im not picking on you but its something that always seems to be overlooked when talking about prisons and prisoners
acekicksaxe 6 months ago
@acekicksaxe We are assuming that they are guilty. I didn't say they had to do it. It's a choice. Not sure what effect it would have on a innocent person. If he chooses not to go, he'll be in jail anyway until his lawyer get a new hearing. I'm not getting your point. Regardless what they choose they're still doing time. From what i understand there are plenty of prisoners who would work for pennies just to get out of prison even for a few hours.
inesison 6 months ago
@MrSpemat Im German too - born in munich
inesison 6 months ago
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Martin Niemöller - it was about the lack of action taken by intellectuals following Hitler's rise to power:
First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.
inesison 6 months ago
"Capitalism on steroids?" Capitalism is just fascism... duh.
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TheENTERRAPTURE17 6 months ago
@DesBlackmore without you realizing it, you just admitted to advocating slave labor. Rehash your thoughts in your head, before you put finger to keyboard.
brandoncotten 6 months ago
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brandoncotten 6 months ago
I'm in support of Prison Labor because prison is supposed to be a system of rehabilitation. However, I am not in favor of inexcusably low wage, forced prison labor.
dgp242 6 months ago
escape from LA, coming true.
thelordakira 6 months ago
Welcome to the American Gulag.
ylar34 6 months ago
This is what Free-market anarchism....looks like !
It is funny that many Americans who make the case in favor of the freemarket, don't see this is the end goal of capitalism ....feudalism, aristocracy, plutocracy and slavery !
mdaaaa1211 6 months ago
Keep Preach Against Corporate Personhood and i will soon be a paid member from India
tafxkz 6 months ago
I disagree with Cenk. This has nothing to do with "capitalism." If you been paying attention, America has become a feudal country, where just about anything can land you in prison. Once you are convicted of a crime, you have become a slave to the union or corporation according the 13th amendment.
wavey711 6 months ago
@wavey711 How does "being a slave o a corporation" supposedly "have nothing to do with capitalism?" That has everything to do with capitalism.
MissTemperence 6 months ago
Prison is my retirement plan. Might want to stay away from me 20 years from now when I'm out choosing my victims. :)
Sonofspam64 6 months ago
why is this so terrible? not like prisoners are busy doing anything all day. if the prisoners volunteer and aren't violent offenders should be okay.
only part that offends me is that they're trying to put MORE people in prison
TheeCoolOne 6 months ago
PRISONERS NEED TOO HAVE A UNION!!
m00se321 6 months ago
So they are fulfilling their own bias. Mexicans are in fact taking american jobs. But because they are in prison.
1stCainite 6 months ago
That's capitalism for you.
RDBeatnik 6 months ago
typical americans..scum of the earth
sjdamier 6 months ago
1: public prisons ONLY
2 prisons used to ONLY rehabilitate and treatment
3 no gangs
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keep it science based, logical, less vengeful etc..
pls
daddyleon 6 months ago
What's the big deal? hasn't this always gone on? chain gangs have been around forever in the us
thedaver500 6 months ago
What the hell is wrong with you people? Doing slave labour should be part and parcel of being in prison. I agree with your points about corruption and people trying get more people in prison, but you've only addressed the dumb arguments. Even if there wasn't a profit motive, this should be part of their punishment, they should be made to give back to society. They should do the shittiest jobs without pay. Capitalism gone wrong is jobs for jobs sake.
coolman9999uk 6 months ago
@coolman9999uk i think we're too soft on prisoners. they get free housing, free health care, internet access, and they get to watch tv.
TheeCoolOne 6 months ago
I bet this Turk guy also supports illegal immigration another way corporations are able to get cheap labor instead of paying Americans a fair wage.
jimmi161 6 months ago
@jimmi161 If someone else is willing to do your job for a lower wage than you, then you are just a bad deal. You're a bad deal for corporations and capitalism dictates that you should not be hired. By forcing companies to hire Americans for a "fair" wage you are stopping capitalism. You don't want to work as hard as people from the rest of the world? Then turn back time to before multinational corporations that can outsource to anywhere or get used to living on the breadline.
coolman9999uk 6 months ago
@coolman9999uk Thats not capitalism, thats corporatism, uninformed liberals are always confusing the two. And I agree Clinton was an awful president since he signed NAFTA and sent all jobs over seas so corporations could get cheap slave labor.
jimmi161 6 months ago
@jimmi161 Did you even read what I wrote. I'm saying exporting jobs is a good thing. A bad thing for you since you don't get what you would call "fair" pay, but better for companies, and competition in the world economy - that is capitalist and good my friend. "Fair" is what you're worth. I'm sure you could also say it could be viewed as corporatist too, but a single course of action can be consistent with multiple ideologies. You instead need to adapt - go print some t shirts or something.
coolman9999uk 6 months ago
@jimmi161 "uninformed liberals" you knwo that fox news and the tea party is cotnrolled by corporations?
Imhornydadcomeinside 6 months ago
I thought africa was the corupted place but now i can see it right in front of me......America is becoming bad example for the rest of the world which are trying to adopt the american way of life......am sure now they will all change their mind and focus on diffrent way of life or appriciate and live the life they have now.VERY SAD to see all this poletician been sold out just like that.
vickify 6 months ago
This seems good except that their taking up "normal" citizen's jobs this also seems very funny
waller982 6 months ago
screw private prisons!!
hoganfan200 6 months ago 2
They have prison labour in Marion County Florida and it works very well . The prisoners are not forced to work but most want to for the extra perks you get and it makes the time go by quicker . The benefit to the people is it defrays the cost the prisoners are to society . They should do this everywhere .
hanksnow82 6 months ago
Cenk needs some vaporub
Hairysteed 6 months ago
This is what needs to happen, we need to all as a community decide the changes we want made, communicate that list (such as end of corporate personhood, raising taxes on the rich, end of oil subsidies, imprisonment for bought out regulators, just to name a few) throughout all social network, let it gain a lot of momentum and backing through millions and millions of Americans, and we peacefully demand the actions on that list be taken, it's time for America to reflect the will of her people.
XxSayrosxX 6 months ago
Let's be honest. Does anyone REALLY think that there's anything that can be done to pull back the corruption that has been unleashed in this country?
What pisses me off about the left is that they have no sense of urgency. While they're sitting around and bitching about things, multinational corporations and global capitalists are ensuring that their power will become entrenched.
HyrbidHermit 6 months ago
@mistara31415 well, he agreed that corporatism is bad for capitalism, but to be honest, capitalism always leads to fascism. You allow business to gain power unfettered, its going to buy the power structure or create a power structure.
waltermh111 6 months ago 7
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"First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me."
bamboo4tameshigiri 6 months ago
bad bad bad idea in the early 1980s the American penal system thought it would be profitable to sell blood products from inmates. It happens such products made their way to Europe and people like Haemophiliacs, leukaemia sufferers were given the products that included HIV contaminated blood. A lot of people died due to profit. Stay the hell away from prisoners making a profit if it includes ideas like this.
seonidh 6 months ago 16
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seonidh 6 months ago
The Gilded Age (Part Deux) isn't over, this shit is gonna get a fair bit more worse until it gets better. I thought Obama would fight it, but either he can't or he doesn't want to.
The public is deluded or fast asleep. I can't tell. I guess we need 50% unemployment before people take to the streets and start a fucking revolution.
kray97 6 months ago
@kray97 Do you really think it will get better? Tycoons in the Gilded Age were puny in comparison to the multinational corporations that call the shots in today's economy. Even if we wanted to pull back on the destruction that has been done, we couldn't do it. I don't even think Teddy Roosevelt would be able handle this.
As for a revolution, we wouldn't know what to do even if half this country had the balls to fight back. I just don't see things ever getting better, at least for America.
HyrbidHermit 6 months ago
MAJOR catastrophe.
KhanneaSuntzu 6 months ago
And so the fall continues... Way to go, America!
Seriously, you guys have to recapture your own damned country before you have to build a new one from the rubble left behind by the corporate pillagers...
Tigranis 6 months ago
I fucking hate republicans, conservatives and tea party members. Kill them all, and let their god sort it out. Good luck America, you are gonna need it.
herpiethelovebug 6 months ago 3
This is absolutely disgusting, this is basically slavery and i bet you crime laws are going to be way more strict now because of this shit.
DAI3792 6 months ago
The Bible does say that one must screw its own people in order to make a profit.......right?
daguzify 6 months ago 2
Another modern slavery:
Human trafficking - Children Trafficking being the easiest.
Slave labor on Domestic Helpers - Take advantage of them, take their passport away from them, etc...
Prostitution - by drugs, coercion, debt slavery, etc, basically debauchery
Debt slavery - etc.
DarkR0ze 6 months ago
Congratulations america!!! (sarcasm)
etazra78 6 months ago
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DarkR0ze 6 months ago
So you do this story and never even mention race??? For godsake read Michelle Alexander's The New Jim Crow. Or track down her interview with Bill Moyers from last year. First slavery; then Jim Crow; now mass incarceration -- three systems with one goal: maintaining a racial caste system in the USA. Hard evidence backs it up. The prison-for-profit system is just one aspect of it.
urpleurple 6 months ago
1.Cheap Labor by minorities....yet were anti immigration...
2.We are land of the free and the brave but we need to see your papers because you look like a foreigner and foreigners are scary.
3.We talk about all those Communist countries where most were poor and a few corrupt individuals were rich yet some how we ended up with the same system...
Is this still America?
Tony007corp 6 months ago
Wackenhut Corporation is the private army of the NWO, these pussies never mentioned that fact
These two stupid NWO disinfo artists just sidestep the real topic of NWO enslavement of people and feed gullible people their spin of the truth
Ana Kasparian needs a dick in her mouth and Cenk Uygur in his ass for being disinfo agents
adamsmith2011 6 months ago
You don't have a Congressman a senator or police department because they all belong to the rich elite police puts our young men and women in jail to support the prison industrial Corporation they use our armies to plunder the world we haven't fought for freedom since World War II we only have mercenaries now that's why no one is concerned about dead soldiers the rich do not care about young men they will kill them for profit
KYKIN44 6 months ago
@dudeeful1 No, the being born into slavery was in the past. Unless you're talking about something else that I'm not understanding.
ShaneZeal 6 months ago
This is right out of Shawshank redemption
Kefkaownsall 6 months ago
I remember a time when it was required for some people to carry documentation. I think it was called apartheid South Africa and Nazi Germany.
joslinnick 6 months ago
Capitalism gone wrong?
No, you see, Capitalism IS wrong.
NTtheLion 6 months ago
@NTtheLion
Actually what's happening in America is no longer true Capitalism.
NaziGOPBallmer 6 months ago
@NaziGOPBallmer Bullshit! Capitalism logically ends up with Fascism. Small corporations buy up smaller companies when they out compete them to make huge multinational corporations that are too big to fail so the government and banks has to bail them out rather than wrecking the whole country's economy. Economically they become bigger than countries so they just BUY the government.
technatezin 6 months ago
@technatezin
What you just describe is no longer Capitalism, but Capitalism when not kept in check. You see, when free market doesn't have enough government regulation, you have things like feudalism, aristocracy, and plutocracy. However, when governments over regulate everything to the point of owning all, then you have Communism and Socialism. However, I believe that Capitalism lies between both where you have a balance of free market and government regulation.
NaziGOPBallmer 6 months ago
whoa, i'm the 666th like and 10,666th viewer!
andrewsaccount09 6 months ago
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andrewsaccount09 6 months ago
My ass is gonna have o go to Jail just to get a job....
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This is BS
NTtheLion 6 months ago
This is GOP/Teabag Party/ Christian ideology
xephyr1000 6 months ago
Private prisons = asking for trouble.
geodesicks 6 months ago
So is Lex Luthor secretly running U.S. Government, because this sounds like the work of an evil genius, soon you would have death races an running man type of tv shows.
zac3k 6 months ago 2
They spend enough money on prisons... mind as well get their money's worth? ... not.
NeccoWecco 6 months ago
So, USA = China
NeccoWecco 6 months ago
@NeccoWecco Nope, in China if you're convicted of murder or stealing millions of dollars the government just shoots you, otherwise they try to reform you with education camps (no anal rapes or shanks allowed, otherwise they will still shoot you).
technatezin 6 months ago
20¢/Hr that's actually pretty good. After all, you can buy a donut after five hours right? (unless of course you account for payroll tax...)
ZachValkyrie 6 months ago
Private prisons should be outlawed by international human rights conventions.
FlatulenceFox 6 months ago
@excitonoch,No I'm talking about slave labor because the Roman Government used slaves to do the work while working Roman citizens didn't get any jobs.
98bigbutt 6 months ago
my problem with this is, they are basicly forcing the prisoners to do these jobs. it would be better if it was a volunteer type thing, where prisoners could sign up to work of their own volition.
that still wount solve the problem of taking jobs away from citizens who need the jobs though.
AceofDiamonds0 6 months ago
i love republicans trolling putting ads on tyt videos and shit thats all they are doing just trolling because no one watching this is gonna buy what they are selling
bigjavo36 6 months ago
I guess the American Ruling Elite has never heard what happened in Paris in 1789,
geezzerboy 6 months ago
I disagree entirely with the point TYT made. I do think only murderers or other high offenders(no petty theft, drug use offences) should be doing something useful. This only works with a massively reformed USA though, so it's not realistic.
Xerxes4242 6 months ago
thats a smart alec.
DaFawky 6 months ago
At least in China people can go home after work.
llllijentina 6 months ago
I'm all for this program, once the real criminals like bankers, talk-radio pundits, and everyone at Fox News is in prison.
JEFF9K 6 months ago 29
This is tough. I don't want prisoners taking jobs away from citizens, but what else are they supposed to do with the prisoners?
TheJT33 6 months ago
@TheJT33 You are kind of missing the point. Allot of things in this video are glossed over but the big thing is that they are making it increasingly easier to throw people into prison (mostly bullshit laws they make up) and on minor drug charges. They do this to line their prisons with people (private prisons make more money the more people they incarcerate) and then to make MORE money they take American jobs away and work people like slaves instead of rehabilitation or helping them.
It's bad.
Xirbtt 6 months ago
@TheJT33 Send them to war. Give non-violent criminals the choice of serving their country for 2 years, and have their sentence reduced or suspended. First it would give criminals some pride for helping their country, it would help with over crowding of our prisons, and best of all it would be less money in the pockets of the private prisons who get paid per inmate.
inesison 6 months ago
Isn't this literally one of the defining features of fascism? I know fascism is an overused word nowadays, but I think this is literally fascism.
coopclauson 6 months ago
@coopclauson I think there are way too many labels thrown out there, progressive, moderate conservative, liberal, a right wing progressive moderate with a touch of liberal. I don't know what i am . I believe with the amount of taxes we pay, the government should help us when we need it. I don't believe in Welfare Queens, I think people should work if there is work. I would go for the death penalty for cold blooded murder, but only when there is no doubt. So what would I be? No smart asses lol
inesison 6 months ago
@inesison In the US you'd be called a progressive/leftie. Right-wingism in the USA these days is no government (except military), no publicly-funded schools, no social security, medicare, medicaid. i.e. the notion that government only has a "spending problem" (i.e. it should spend nothing, except on military), no democracy, no taxes on rich people.
Basically it's Tea Party/Glenn Beck/Ron Paul/Koch Bros. Most Americans are progressive, as is the US constitution, despite much false propaganda.
TheNavigateur 6 months ago
@TheNavigateur Thank you for straightening that out - i'm just finding myself lol j/k
inesison 6 months ago
@inesison That's nice, but what does this have to do with my post?
coopclauson 6 months ago
@coopclauson Sorry about that, i was pointing out that there were so many labels put on people that i wasn't even sure what i was. You mentioned fascism, on other sites people accuse others of being a progressive liberal, progressive moderate, so i was confused and asked a general question, not directed to you so much but just an explanation and thanks to @thenavigateur i know what i am - thanks to all
inesison 6 months ago
@inesison You don't have to accept any labels anybody puts on you. Just because I said that in the USA, Fox News might call you a progressive fascist nazi leftie, it doesn't mean they're right, especially since Fox News knows jack shit.
I call myself a reasoning-guided-justice-ist. There's more than one dimension. There's reason-guided-legislature (democracy) vs person-based-dictatorship (me:democracy), accountability vs freedom (me: accountability), transparency vs privacy (me:transparency).
TheNavigateur 6 months ago
@inesison What I'm pointing out is that I *believe* there is a technical definition of fascism put together by academics who study this stuff. Like a clinical diagnosis, "if a society meets x out of y of the following criteria, then it's technically fascist". Close collusion between government and large industry is, I believe, one of them.
coopclauson 6 months ago
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@inesison And if there's a quid pro quo between government and industry in which industry supports government while government strips people of civil rights in order for them to be used as cheap labor by industry, I would be very surprised if that didn't weigh heavily in favor of a society being technically fascist.
coopclauson 6 months ago
Strange. We have petty criminals in prison, and profligate racketeers running our government. What good is the law any more?
GreatBigBore 6 months ago
Alec Guinness wouldn't be proud that ALEC besmirched his name.
lukegreen37 6 months ago
THIS IS ALL PLANNED. ITS BEEN DESIGNED FROM THE BEGINING. OUR COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED ON CURRUPTION!!!! WAKE THE FUCK UP PPL.
bikefreak1212 6 months ago
They shouldn't be in unskilled labor? Are you really defending the prisoners and taking the side of these people? How american is that - take a job away from law abiding citizens and give it to a prisoner. Keep in mind, they have prisoners with all kinds of skills, your job might be next.
inesison 6 months ago
Fascism Private Prisons and Privatizing Our Military are the very definition of Fascism..!
TJTele 6 months ago
Btw slave labor is exactly how th U.S. became the wealthy superpower it once was. Don't believe me? Take a remedial history/econ class.are we dumb enough to believe the government doesn't get that too? These assholes will do just about anything for superficial power and wealth. Superficial meaning not anything the average american will see benefit from.
tishaschwanger 6 months ago
What a shame...
SVUfannyc 6 months ago
I said this six months ago. We're giving jobs to the penal system that will do the work at $2.12 an hour and then the average contractor loses that job and pays the costs for said prison via taxes. Plez grab the lube before you fuck us in the ass. At least it will sting less.
tishaschwanger 6 months ago
@tishaschwanger
First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.
inesison 6 months ago 84
@inesison read "the hangman" its an AWESOME poem
jakeo96 6 months ago
@inesison Who's quote is that?
wndw2000 6 months ago
@wndw2000 Martin Niemöller - it was about the lack of action taken by intellectuals following Hitler's rise to power.
inesison 6 months ago
@inesison Exactly
bamboo4tameshigiri 6 months ago
Welcome to the fascist states of amerika.
bamboo4tameshigiri 6 months ago 2
@inesison
I forgot where that quote is from.
RebornLegacy 6 months ago
@inesison
Where's this quote from?
RealTenryuken 6 months ago
@RealTenryuken Martin Niemöller (1892–1984) talking about the inaction of germans during Hitlers rise
inesison 6 months ago
@inesison
THX.
RealTenryuken 6 months ago
@inesison what's that from?
redryan20000 6 months ago
If Communism is the extreme version of Socialism, then what we see here (the private prisons etc) is the extreme version of Capitalism. The US has basically become a corporate Plutocracy.
MrLeghandi 6 months ago
@MrLeghandi True that.
hakkai999 6 months ago