Jazz Guitar Lesson: 1-6-2-5 Comping Style

[astroboirap]

his name sounds like some italian mushroom pasta dish

[cpamiseso]

the way he talks, similar to how Petrucci talks in his tutorial video (the one with Ibanez). I wonder what's up with these two person. Is it the guitar, the jazz, or the Youtube...

[dpocar]

Great explanations. Really enjoy your videos.

[schach420]

What kind of guitar is that? It's got a great tone.

[unklemozart]

How can i get a good jazzy sound like that? How do i EQ my amp?

[DCooper720]

@unklemozart try leaving everything fairly even on the amp and just rolling the tone knob off on your guitar a bit

[LoveBuzz3]

@unklemozart depends what guitar you are using ...but often using the front (warm) pick up and turning down the tone will almost get you there ... I saw it on a youtube tutorial

[rtb2701]

Hi man, great lesson. Bit confused why ya can use the C7b9. If that's on the 5th then it's in line with the mixolydian scale, which has a b7 hence the dominant chords lol but how come the 7b9 worked when the 5th interval doesn't have a b9??? Please help!

[noahses]

@rtb2701 C7b9 is the V chord in F maj. as well as F harm. min. To create tension you can alter chords by borrowing from the minor key. The scale to play on the C7b9 is either F harm. min. starting on C (don't emphasize the f) or, what Jazz musicians call the 'altered scale', which is a mel. min. scale starting on the 7th degree, in this case Db melodic minor starting on C. enharmonically respelled the altered scale consists of a root, b9, #9 (a.k.a. b10), maj. 3, #11 ( a.k.a. b5) b13 and dom. 7.

[noahses]

@noahses C7b9 replaces the natural C79 (mixolydian) chord which is the normal V in F major. Sorry for the eronias phrasing regarding that in the last post.

[acaash]

I LOVE HIS GUITAR and the music of course haha.

[fn55]

Thanks Guy,

You make what is quite a complex subject user friendly. I like the use of off beat on beat, nice stuff.

[BlisherMG]

Is the chords at the end of progressions: C7#9 and C7b9 valid?

[guitarajs22]

@BlisherMG yes those are just alterations on the dominant chord

[MyBluesDude]

Nice Heritage 535 - almost the same as mine!

[tubefexs]

Not great voice leading. The top notes of the chord sound better when they are closer together.

[SupairDup]

Yes unfortunately it doesn't have tons of embellishments and chord sub harmonies but you have to crawl before you can walk, good lesson this sort of progression makes a great blues turnaround as well

[cyberflea07]

I get an up stroke on the "and"of 4 of the G m7 vs your down stroke...I do so, for all the and's of half notes...if I I play 16ths...then my upstrokes fall on the second and fourth sixteenth's and I get a downstroke on the "and" (the third sixteenth) ...is that ok in jazz?

[andyvai]

Cmaj9 = IIIm7 / Cm9 = bIIImaj7 / C9 = IIIm7b5 and C7b9 = IIIdim7... III = 3rd note of the scale

So if you play a Em7b5 with a C for bass it becomes a C9 etc etc... hope that clears some things up...

[jazzman3071]

@andyvai how is it a C9? You have an Eb which makes it either minor OR sharp 9...either way its still not a C9. A C9 would or could be C E G D with D being the 9th.

[andyvai]

@jazzman3071 The C9 chord the poster says he is playing is a Cdom 9 which is what i meant by saying C9 - sorry if I confused you the notes in it are E - Bb - D - G in this order on the last four strings which makes it a C dominant 9 IF the bass player is playing a C note. If you play an E for bass on that chord you get an Em7b5 which I mentioned on my previous comment. Also where do you see the Eb?

[sthcrox]

simple and easy to follow. fanx

[pyonia]

i could learn heaps from this manner of teaching....clear.....not repeated too much....clear dialogue....excellent....under­stood everything....like to see a vid

on scale work with these chords....and more advanced choices apart from

chord tones.....thanks

[KewlKatieLax]

Awesome!!!

[dzjc01]

Very cool progression.

Thanks!

[makitfunkee]

That "play Dim chord on 3rd to give a flat 9" trick is one of those things that is so obvious once you find it or have it shown to you. That's a super cool trick to have on tap.

Very nice lesson!!

[Xylence]

Guy Fenocchi; Bad ass name; bad ass tunes man! Cool stuff.

[LetsLearnSomeGuitar]

Thanks So Much Guy!

[lefeverthierry]

it was a sarcatic reaction to bassistj666, because he thinks jazz is simple.

[lefeverthierry]

Yes i know it's not diatonic

[redzanza]

like if 1-6-2-5 and 1 is F, why it so? and whats make others different number? scale? sorry.. such a basic question.. but I really want to know, thanks

[Demoras]

1 is F because the guitarist chose it to be. Like he says, it's a tune in the key of F. That's what gives that tone the number 1. The other numbers are other degrees of that scale. e.g., The second degree of that scale is G, a whole step away from the root.

When musicians speak of numbers, they usually speak of scales.

[redzanza]

i see.. i get what you saying about 1 = F . interesting. thanks

[highintel]

The numbers represent the degrees of a scale. If the notes are F G A Bb C D E then the numerical description of the scale would be

F=1 G=2 A=3 Bb=4 C=5 D=6 E=7

Making 1-6-2-5 = F- D- G- C (Compare above)

Construct Diatonic Chords from this pattern and you get

F ,Gm, Am, Bb, C, Dm, Emb5.

Is this what you meant?

[redzanza]

yes, this is a perfect answer, thanks!

[highintel]

your welcome ;)

[pinoyhellahoy]

ummm that Emb5 is just a Edim

[highintel]

then I would have to explain what Diminished is.

I think the point was still disseminated correctly.

[pinoyhellahoy]

@highintel well, honestly, if people were to land on a pagelike this, they should be prepared for chords like that. this is jazz after all

[TheFunkify]

redanza, do a google/ wiki search on the Nashville number system. If the F is 1, it is because that's the key. It sounds like home. Each chord harmonising the scale gets a number. Nothing much to do with numbers like m7b5. eg I,ii,ii,IV,V,vi,viim7b5,I again is a mjor scale as chords. Hope that helps.

[SIRONEDRAGON]

Nice Guitar lesson.. Thanks : )

[bassistj666]

Can you figure out the contextual appropriateness of sarcasm?

[lmlfreem4n]

¿?

[juanestebanaliaga]

sincopado es poner una nota debil entre 2 notas fuertes ( contrapunto), este puede ser melodico o ritmico, la gracia, es que esta nota debil cobra predominancia entre las notas fuertes

[juanestebanaliaga]

syncopated mean "counter point", and reggae is all about syncopated rythims

[Leonard5555]

cool. What exactly is comping?

[andocrates]

When a guitar of piano player plays just a rhythm background for a soloist to play over. You don't want guitar runs or finger picking to compete with the solo. I suspect the word comes from complementing

[6stringANDacoke]

no composing

[ChitarNone]

wrong.....ac-comp-animent.....­.but i still think the job is understood more through the notion of complimenting.

[guitardan81]

It is short for accompanying

[infinitemes]

someone really doesn't know what syncopation is, huh? learn more about music before you make idiotic statements finkelsmak

[somasomaagain]

Of course it is syncopated... come on...

Google "Reggae Syncopated"

What's the point of making a statement like that?

[bassistj666]

Jazz is too simple.

[chumbucket843]

lol

[lefeverthierry]

Can you figure out why you can substitute a C+7(b9) chord with a Bb-7b5/Db-6 chord ?

[lefeverthierry]

That's a chord. You should check out Mel Bay's complete theorie, voicing and harmony book.

[londonfans]

Thanks. split screen is good idea.

[tchwiss]

grate. kC and the sunshein band use thes chord lix a lot to play together the beaver plastidium. HeeYYY!!

[IKNOWTHETUNE]

this is so awesome. I can't wait til I understand what he's talking about.

[Tb0neZ5]

@IKNOWTHETUNE Haha agreed. I know all about how chords are structured but I dunno what the fuck comping and voicing is.

[Yoruboy]

This progression is SO common and sweet. Thanks a lot for posting.

[THESONARIAN]

Very good, thank you for posting ...

Don ...

[guitarforfree]

also for anyone who watching this , if you play over the 1 6 2 5 . You can play those lead scales over a 1 4 5 , with a 16 2 5 tuirn around. Lots of times I am just playing diffrent turn arounds over 1 4 5 as well as the turn around. It all fits well and pulls you a bit out of following each chord.

[galarius]

Good Stuff