Shawn Lane Masterclass, part 1

[jonrixbus]

I'm with Fluffypopcicle! I don't believe a word Superguitarman69 says. Just couldn't help intervene... hahaha

[SuperGuitarman69]

I like hearing Shawn play this style more than the stuff he did earlier in his life.. This has a Holdsworth vibe and he is actually playing over the changes.. Which is great.. Because I never heard anything I liked before, but this he is being musical and actual sounds like he did some work in understanding harmony and rhythm.. If he would have lived he would've developed into a monster.

[Fluffypopcicle]

@SuperGuitarman69

Once again, you fail for thinking that Shawn didn't play over the chord changes, wasn't musical in his early years, was never a master (for Christ's sake, saying that Shawn wasn't a master is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard), and never understood harmony and rhythm in his earlier years makes you musically retarded. Shawn was a genius and a flawless musician ever since the late 80s. R.I.P. Shawn Lane.

[SuperGuitarman69]

@Fluffypopcicle Once again I fail? when he is trying to scat, It makes it so apparent he is out of tune.. Another thing when he started out his clean guitar was awfu

[Fluffypopcicle]

@SuperGuitarman69

This is about his guitar playing, not his scatting stupid. It wasn't out of tune anyways, get your ears checked. You're going from saying that this is great to saying it was awful. You're just saying shit for the sake of arguing. If you don't have anything valid to say then don't reply.

[SuperGuitarman69]

@Fluffypopcicle When he plays legato, his lines are a lot more pleasing.. He is attempting here to become a better player.. Which I could appreciate.. If Shawn would have lived longer, he would've become great..

[Fluffypopcicle]

@SuperGuitarman69

Every experienced musician and guitarist on this video is laughing at you right now. First you say he was never a master and now you say that he was never even great. You just keep showing off your stupidity.

[SuperGuitarman69]

@Fluffypopcicle No you are showing off you have a hard time reading.. What I said is that at the end of his life he was attempting to step into greatness.. He realized that what he was playing was nothing more than super fast distorted sequences.. Out of time a lot, and couldn't be pulled off with a clean tone.. I am not saying he didn't have talent.. It's just that he did NOT master the guitar.. To real players we hear through the nonsense very quickly. At the end, it sounded like he understood

[Fluffypopcicle]

@SuperGuitarman69

Nobody has mastered the guitar. You just called John Petrucci, Rusty Cooley, Paul Gilbert, Buckethead, Michael Angelo Batio, Guthrie Govan etc. all fake players. You're unbelievably ignorant and make wild claims that you can't back up. Nobody is going to believe anything you say about yourself unless they're idiots.

[SuperGuitarman69]

@Fluffypopcicle I think Paul Gilbert and Guthrie are really great players.. I think Rusty Cooley and Petrucci are good for rock players. Still not even close to Gambale's level.. but you have to remember, Gambale is just too far over their heads..

[Fluffypopcicle]

@SuperGuitarman69

The fact that you consider Petrucci and Rusty Cooley just rock players shows just how little you know about guitar playing. Rusty Cooley has a classical and metal foundation and Petrucci is a perfect blend of metal, classical, and jazz with quite a bit of Rush and Pink Floyd thrown in therefor good measure. Don't respond here anymore. I'd rather not spam the comments board on a Shawn Lane video any further.

[SuperGuitarman69]

@Fluffypopcicle By any definition they are Rock Players. What classical background? And neo-classical does not count.. Harmonic minor does not equate.. And no, Petrucci is a rock player.. A good one, but he is NOT a jazz player by any definition of the word..

[Fluffypopcicle]

@SuperGuitarman69

Are you serious? No shit. Harmonic minor =/= classical music, but if you think that's all there is to Rusty Cooley's playing then you are absolutely hopeless. As for John Petrucci and jazz, you obviously haven't really looked into John Petrucci. ANY experienced musician can listen to certain imrpovs by Petrucci and say "yup, that's jazz guitar."

[SuperGuitarman69]

@Fluffypopcicle Yeah on the Petrucci thing? As I said.. He is a great player.. I like him as a person too.. He I and Brent did a clinic together.. And we played around a bit.. He is not a jazz player.. By any stretch of the imagination.. He knows that though.. I play jazz, fusion, and country mainly.. I do play rock too, but I do not consider myself a rock player.. That is his thing and he is great at it.. But we messed around with Donna Lee and he had to sit and watch.. That's okay tho..

[Fluffypopcicle]

@SuperGuitarman69

I just figured out beyond a reasonable doubt that you are tim halcomb. You have no clue about any of the subject mentioned in this argument by any stretch of the imagination. You can't even grasp the concepts of polymeters. you didn't even know that they existed until I told you about them. Btw tim, your "starlight song' is obviously not even yours. The tapping parts near the end were clearly faked and there are several points were your finger don't match up. You fail.

[SuperGuitarman69]

@Fluffypopcicle You don't even understand that polymeter as you are referring to it is nothing more than polyrythyms. It is not an excuse to play out of pocket and out of time.. Now do yourself a favor and listen to this then go back to the Gambale video and see if you can hear the difference.. AND NO I AM NOT TIM HALCOMB

[Fluffypopcicle]

@SuperGuitarman69

watch?v=c6rUE5Px8pw here you go dumbass and it's blatantly obvious that you're halcomb. you have guitar, man, and a sexual reference in your file name. Both you and halcomb think the exact same thing about Gambale and both of you have trolled Guthrie videos. If you aren't halcomb then I am a steak.

[SuperGuitarman69]

@Fluffypopcicle No my first name starts with a K not a T.. I do not even know who that is.. And did you ever stop to think that 69 may just be the reference to my date of birth? I am 42 years old.. I am a professional guitar player that plays on records.. Mainly country, pop, alternative and jazz and jazz fusion.. If you must know, look through past music row articles.. I am in there for the last 5 years as top session guitarists in Nashville.. so I am not Timmy..

[Fluffypopcicle]

@SuperGuitarman69

Kenny Greenberg is the only person that comes to mind and there isn't a chance in hell that you are him. watch?v=6Ml8LOPvm7k he makes no mention of Gambale when he lists his influences. You're obsessed with him.

[SuperGuitarman69]

@Fluffypopcicle I know Kenny very well.. And no, I am not Kenny.. And Kenny isn't a virtuoso player by no means.. You won't see him on sessions with Weckl.. But he is a very very creative and innovative parts guy.. He gets a ton of work here and deservingly so. He has played on a ton of stuff that I like.. Very simple, but creative and a great pocket player.. In fact, I was in the studio in Franklin last week.. While he was in Germantown recording a demo session on a song that I co wrote

[Fluffypopcicle]

@SuperGuitarman69

Then who the hell are you? There is no reason not to tell me unless you have lied about every ounce of credibility that you have. Now tell me who you are. If you do not respond with an answer then it is very clear that you are awful liar, that's just how things work here.

[SuperGuitarman69]

@Fluffypopcicle Told you in a PM where to go to hear me play and solos and what not.. Solos that are more targeted to jazz, and fusion.. Go there then I am sure you will make some snide comment from you.. You think someone who cannot play in time is the greatest guitar player ever..

[Fluffypopcicle]

@SuperGuitarman69

I don't recall ever saying that Shawn Lane is the greatest guitarist ever. Just give me your fucking name. Saying "hey, I jammed with these guys" is cull shit. Stop beating around the bush and just give me your name. And no, Shawn Lane does not play out of time. You just don't have the ears to spot the strange patterns and rhythmic displacement.. For Christs's sake, you didn't even what polymeters were yet you claim to be an expert on playing in time.

[SuperGuitarman69]

@Fluffypopcicle I am a jazz fusion player.. I just 2 months ago played on Branford Marsalis's record.. I did clinics with Dave Weckl.. I taught a SIUE jazz theory and improvisation classes.. I absolutely love giving political opinions on youtube.. I love debating in that arena.. But NOT music.. why? Because it isn't about who is better than who.. BUT when it comes to the guitar? And music in general? I know it more than anything.. I can converse with Chick Corea and have.. Have you?

[Fluffypopcicle]

@SuperGuitarman69

Empty words from a man afraid to give out his name. The only record to come out from Marsalis this year is "Songs of Mirth and Melancholy" and that was only with a pianist. There was no guitarist on that album. I have seen a bajillion of your files get into political debates. halcomb, you are one sad lying mother fucker.

[SuperGuitarman69]

@Fluffypopcicle I told you the new stuff was done 2 months ago.. So when it comes out? Have no clue.. And it will be a departure from anything he has ever done.. and yes I have already told you.. This channel is for political debate.. I have a degree in economics. I am in music due to everyone else's encouragement for me to be in music. and I have once again told you where you can go to find out who I am, and here me play.. You haven't done that.. And I do not blame you..

[Fluffypopcicle]

@SuperGuitarman69

That's nice, now tell me you who you are. If you are willing to give what you consider hints then you should be open to telling me who you are. You don't even have to admit openly, just send me a pm. Until then you're "I have more credibility than you" argument is completely irrelevant.

[SuperGuitarman69]

@Fluffypopcicle I will not tell you openly.. I told you how to find me, now you do it..

[Fluffypopcicle]

@SuperGuitarman69

And I told you that I didn't want to search back in the pms and comments to find the place where you told me to go. Just send a link or tell me specifically where to go.

[caiaum2]

Guthrie is god, but shawn is zeus...

[TangerineGroovin]

lane makes govan look like preschool

[tastytasters]

Note* "relatively" in my previous comment.

[reidrr21]

what song is this

[Timotheedle]

what a dude! I can never get over those kicks he does very occasionally!

[speaker3600]

I wish they would of made a shawn lane signature guitar.

[g3legacy]

@speaker3600 You know vigier make one?I don't think Ibanez ever did but I saw one on ebay once, it was the same one as used in one of his instructional videos. Never seen another since so I guess they are quite rare.

[1madaboutguitar]

I am not a hardcore Shawn Lane fan but Jesus, this fucking amazing muscianship and playing.

[mike6254]

I just can't believe a musician such as himself even existed in history; what a record breaker 

[jonnyboulanger]

this dude maxed out his music level in the rpg of life

[Kibiragalvis]

@jonnyboulanger lol xD good comment

[RediForKing]

I think it's almost not fair for Shawn being that good. He makes EVERY other guitar player look bad compared to him.

[alspageddi]

jesus, 6:00-6:10 is beautiful

[alspageddi]

DUUUUDE...6:00-6:10...so clean!!! like it's straight off the studio recording!

[Sperzel]

2:27 WTF??!!

[ShayShayIsMuhBabeh]

3:53-4:02 Is when I can die happily.

[vetmusician]

Fast, Blazing, inhuman or slow, EVERY note had meaning and importance, ....................the zen of musicianship

[dayuhanspace]

sounds like a frank zappa tune

[grassmower83]

Is it Ibanez what he uses here? Or LAG, considering it is in France.. I can't quite see. Btw, great vid, thanks for putting it up!

[YngtchieMusic]

I believe that's Shawn's Ibanez Sabre. Quite the rarity, in fact.

Thanks for the 'thanks'. :)

[brandon5pennies]

it's an Ibanez all of his Ibanez were custom made however. his was based off a saber but was 24 frets instead of the standard 22 frets (at the time you can get 24 now) and his ghostrider was 24 as well and they only came as production models with 22 frets

[ilikesexywemen]

so very good ...r.i.p

[JoelGuitarMetal]

Just one of the most passsionated and fastest guitarist known....he was just awsome...

[bicmed88]

increadible, just awesome. This sounds cliche, but his guitar really really does talk and have so much emotion.

[bjornkjg]

Incredible musicality. And he's a great scat-vocalist too.

[myconsumerclub]

Shawn played on an album with

Frank Gambale and Bret Garsed that shrapnel put out

[klaasklapper]

Centrifugal Funk.

However, they weren't really playing 'together', so there wasn't live chemistry between the players, which was Shawn's critique towards the album. You can read that in an interview with Shawn on Richard Hallebeek's website.

[YngtchieMusic]

I thought the whole thing was rubbish. It was just three guys shredding over funky backing tracks. Gambale has done way better, Garsed has done way better, and especially Shawn Lane has done way better.

The only side of Shawn you heard on the album was the shreddy side, and I don't find it all that exciting compared to all the other stuff he was capable of.

[vetmusician]

Yeah I agree that was a Mike vARNEY SCHEME...............He even pissed lane off by secretly recording a warm up lane was doing and called it Lanes Blitz on the CD, hes a sneaky fucker

[martypetrucci]

that kick at 2:09 tops off a fantastic performance!

[AtmaRising]

shawn can always put a smile on your face

[largemoose]

The singing makes this for me.

[ericlarkins]

Now this, THIS IS ART!!!

Talk about a bright shining star from another galaxy.... thanks Shawn :)

[yummygrncrayonz]

sends chills up your motherfucking spine.

what an amazing person.

[ilrs]

this is too beautifull

[pezcueso1]

Memphis Music

[mongobongoman]

awesome beard!

[mbzed750]

Beautiful tune!

[LightningStrat]

His music is so uplifting :)

[SolBeing]

those people sitting there have clenched buttcheeks holding in turds , that how amazing shawn is at playing

[orbita1]

this video inspired me to actually pay for the full tri-tone something album and abstract logic song off itunes :p excellent songs

[dudestube]

The second song is Grey Pianos Flying from the Album Powers of Ten...his Warner Bros. album. I am pretty sure that is the name of the tune. It's been awhile since I have listened to the album.

[YngtchieMusic]

It's "One Note at a Time" from his follow-up to Powers of Ten, The Tri-Tone Fascination.

[ricluvno304s]

Shawn Lane and Allan Holdsworth are super heroes. They have influenced me to seek my own voice musically. I was starting to get a little bored until I started listening to Holdsworth and by way of his music...Shawn Lane. I don't say they're the best because art is not a competition...but I love these dudes music soo much. I hope that one day I begin to make music that I love just as much as their's. The melodies in this vid are epic and have renewed my love of melodic playing.

[Phrygian12]

thats the thing with most people they dont want to hear something drastically new or different they would rather here things that have been done many times before making their Musical Sensibility very small and Closed minded

you dont have to be a music theorist to understand Holdsworth or Lane but you would understand it so much better and then you would truly understand why their are genus's

im studying Theory and the more i learn the more i understand such musicians before i had no idea

[ricluvno304s]

Lane and Holdsworth are the main reason that I am studying Theory beyond the basics. Listening to them has begun to sink in a little unconsciously into my playing but I want to consciously know what it is I'm doing so I can turn it off and on at will. These men are so inspirational!

[ericlarkins]

Check out Frank Gambale's playing too - not sure what's better with him, the note choices or the phrasing!!!! He's an amazing player, but an even better musician.

[brandon5pennies]

gambale is a great jazz musician but shawn lane was far better in my opinion not many musicians come close and in my opinion non surpass

[brandon5pennies]

he was always trying to learn more about life because he thought everything was connected in perfect harmony i think that's so cool. i saw a quote saying he had gotten like 100 books on butterflies and his friend was like oh is your daughter doing a project on butterflies? and he replied "no those are for me" a true genius of our time

[Phrygian12]

just imagen if he were still here today

how much information he would be getting from the Internet

[nemogre]

what is that makes guitar players from all around to constantly write great comments about his music? because im sure many of you writing here are professional players and very good ones! Its of course his musical inclination which was amazing and very obvious! apart from his technical magic of course! fate is cruel sometimes...becker-lane-hendri­x-syd barret-lennon-dimebag...etc

[unraveledagain]

just an unbelievable talent. the more you learn about him the more you understand why so many guitar players put shawn lane at the top echelon of players.

[oilkills]

THEE UNDISPUTED GREATEST!

[kiball09]

that melody at 4:30 is just..so powerful..he was truly a spiritual warrior

[TheLostTruckDriver]

This tune reminds me of Pat Methany when he was on crack that one time, lol.

[CaptainAshra]

what was he on when he wanted the picasso guitar guitar made? i want some of that.

[LevelOfTruth]

...chills, tears, intense rage and an emphatic GODDAMN!!! - gone way too soon.

[CANI335]

anyone know what guitar shawn is playing? thanks

[simonthedragon]

It's a Vigier Excalibur...they are the best guitars ever, I'm getting one tomorrow.. :-)

[simonthedragon]

Actually, I think it's an Ibanez, though he did have a Vigier signature guitar, I thought that was what it was...

[Nilli4rock]

ibanez S guitar.. was one on ebay for 100 000 dollar

[Phrygian12]

it is an ibanez i for got what S Series model it is but thats his 3rd ibanez guitar

and some time in 2006 not sure if this is true or not but Lane gave it to some one or sold it to some one and they sold it on E-bay i wish who ever got it could put some pictures on the web

[orbita1]

dude, he doesnt play ibanez guitars. his endorsed by a small french guitar company called 'vigier' who also make him his sig series with ridiculous action, i think it was something like .90 mm action. mental

[Phrygian12]

hes playing an Ibanez here in this video this is his 3rd one if im not mistaken its a part of the S series i dont remember what model it is even be for this he's seen with his Custom Ibanez. this was before he was endorsed by Vigier Guitars,actually he probably was introduce to the Excalibur around that time of his trip

[orbita1]

oh, i didnt know that, thanks for the info. my mistake. i would love to get my self a vigier guitar, check out a guitarist called christoph godin, he plays a nice vigier guitar, but im afraid to look at the price tag

[Jurassic104]

I thought he played for Charvel?

[YngtchieMusic]

He used a Charvel, but I don't believe he had a Charvel endorsement.

[Jurassic104]

Ah ok.

[rmsolympic1]

Although many people proclaim Guthrie Govan's guitar greatness, and rightfully so, Shawn was, and is, one of the greatest ever, if not the greatest of modern electric guitarists.

[Sunderlanding]

@rmsolympic1 Govan sucks. I don't know why people think he's good. Everything he plays is void of creativity and passion. He would make a good teacher, but not a great musician. He is incapable of inovation.

[TheWhocares233]

@Sunderlanding you just love trolling govan...Damn...

[Sunderlanding]

@TheWhocares233 I'm still waiting for someone to come up with a reason people think he's so good. What better chance is there than trolling him over and over?

[YngtchieMusic]

@Sunderlanding I don't want that nonsense in the comments sections of my YouTube videos.

[TangerineGroovin]

@Sunderlanding

this guys main instrument was a piano.

enough said.

[chickenbum1000]

@Sunderlanding get a life you sad cunt

[tastefulphrasing]

@Sunderlanding ha ha ha. Are you serious? You have to be the dumbest man on the planet. Everything Govan does is inovation. He is by the far one of the best improvers on the planet. You seriously need to kill yourself.

[frannyp46]

@Sunderlanding It seems pretty obvious you are a luddite and refuse to move on.But you contradicted yourself by saying he would make a good teacher.What would he be teaching by the way?

[phatfieldguitar]

@Sunderlanding Haha, you're dumb... And since when does innovation mean anything about someone being a good musician? Besides that, Govan is very innovative, if you played guitar or knew music you'd realize what he does harmonically is incredible. And in terms of technical playing, he is revealing a new standard for guitar players everywhere due to the fact he excels in most ALL styles, which no other guitar player has done. Grow up and stop being so jealous and butt hurt.

[tastytasters]

@phatfieldguitar That's gonna be one tough standard to meet...finally...God bless Govan. xD And RIP Shawn. He probably revealed to everyone [arguably] the closest a human being could possibly get to the pinnacle of guitar playing. Guthrie is proof that such a standard can be met and goes about it flawlessly, or should I daresay, relatively better than Shawn in some isolated cases.

[UseTheHanger]

@phatfieldguitar

no, buckethead has done the "all musical styles" before guthrie. buckethead still plays more genres than guthrie does.

[frannyp46]

@rmsolympic1 Love Govan to bits and I agree what you say. I suspect Shawn would love Guthrie if he was around as they are both humble and incredible people as well as phenomenal guitarists.

[BroOfTheDead]

@frannyp46 Imagine if they made a band together?

Even Technical brutal Death Mariachi Metal... Forget that last part.

[lazychump]

i wonder if these guys had any idea what kind of virtuosity they were about to witness.

[popotiyo]

for me the most great guitar player. lane is a special guitar player

[paradigmshiftuv7]

im prob the only 1 who thinks so, but i dont care much for his scatting, i wish he got alil more creative with it, like singing a relative minor over a major, or something.

but thats all i have to say thats remotly negative about this man! he is my biggest inspiration as guitar player hands down

[amart7]

I don't think you understand the level of musicianship one needs to reach before they are even able to scat along with their playing.

Expecting him to superimpose another tonality over his improvised lines is a pretty tall order.

[paradigmshiftuv7]

if fully aware how profoundly difficult it is to do so, but i find unisons a lil dull thats all lol

[Scratch47]

Shawn would often scat in unison with his playing to get him warmed up, it's not so much an aesthetic thing as just a technical thing.

[dandan321]

This is great!

[tritonefascination]

thanks for posting!