HOCC- 勞斯.萊斯 MV

[tektekhei]

首歌真係堅正...好有Feel !

[jiero115]

4:55 其實我有個朋友想介紹俾你識...

edison想講咩?

[little830000]

今晚聽到這首歌特別有感覺...

[Electheron]

記得細細個戈時 已經好鐘意呢首歌 到依加都好鍾意3

hocc bravo!!

[Boka120329]

呢首歌點睇都得.真心覺得好野

[chunlok222]

基

[cherrieyiu]

一開始係咪播緊"化蝶"??

[041125]

it is holy shit!

[TheSolomonSeTo]

@041125 收嗲啦你就HOLY SHIT

[raymondtlk1]

@041125 i think you should spend more time on english lessons lol

[xxsakuraphie]

@041125 的確，HOCC是神聖的。不過你才是“神聖”後面的那個字哦！

[kathyde]

@xxsakuraphie 我看他的意思不是講你的這個意思啦....... 算啦:)

[lskj520]

4:54-5:24  勞斯話「其實我有個女朋友想介紹比你識」

好明顯萊斯係男仔先會介紹女朋友....

勞斯講完之後,萊斯就即刻咀落去...

其實係應該避免D人睇MV反感,所以男男先變左做男女

係MV都要咁避諱...咁現實生活咪仲可憐

[sam82936]

正確d黎講

係漢哀帝劉欣 同 美男子董賢

斷袖之癖又稱龍陽之癖

[srmwccc]

我一直覺得這首歌是講男和女, 勞斯是男, 萊斯是女.

有人說, 當萊斯叫勞斯做西裝時, 勞斯呆一呆就是因為萊斯是女的

而且勞斯換衣服的時候, 他看到的是男的萊斯, 但鏡子的倒影是女的, 很多時表現有幻覺的情節, 都喜歡用這樣的技巧, 而鏡子裏看到的才是真的

勞斯吃麵的時候眼鏡令面前的人迷朦, 他第一個看到的是女的萊斯, 照劇情說勞斯是漸漸感到疑惑, 所以應該是第一個看到的才是真的.

MV初開始的是男的萊斯, 到中段的男女交替, 再到後來只有HOCC, 我覺得除了大家覺得太親密的橋段要以HOCC代替, 更可以從這安排看到勞斯的內心變化. 由剛開始只當萊斯是兄弟, 到慢慢有好感, 看到萊斯女性一面, 產生男女之情, 再到後期愛上萊斯, 真正把她當成女生看

萊斯在末端問"點解做咁耐都未做好", 勞斯答"你個人咁粗魯", 男生就算再粗魯在普世價值觀上都會覺得是正常的個性. 萊斯只有是女生才會被認為是"粗魯"

我覺得MV應該說萊斯是女, 反而歌是說萊斯是男的

不論如何, 歌好聽MV感動, support HOCC :)

[murejigent]

@srmwccc

都係1套見解

不過歌詞1開始已經開宗明義講左係2個男子?

不過可能各人解讀歌詞既時候都有唔同既角度同睇法

唯1可以肯定既係 呢首歌真係寫得好好

[tommyhkt]

@srmwccc

4:03 果到, 我見個人形公仔係女身黎(?)

係既話可以証明係講男女關係, 而非同性戀

但若果從同性戀感覺去聽呢首歌, 我覺得係寫得好悲壯

同性戀者永遠受世人冷眼----"明明絕配犯眾憎便放開"

女女都還好, 相比起男男, 迄今感到厭惡既人相信會更多

終觀返成首歌, 排除寫同性戀與否, 內容鋪排得好好, 令歌詞容易記

LOVE IT=)

[algo041622]

斷袖是從前某王寵愛某宦官.

有一晚玩得太晚.宦官睡在王上的床上.

翌日早上.皇上想起身的時候發現被宦官壓住.

皇上為了不想吵醒宦官.命人用剪刀將皇上的袖剪掉.

當時稱為斷袖.是為同性戀的舊詞.

[ilovepatdy]

我鐘意首歌唔鐘意姓陳果個人



[bevis1204]

@ilovepatdy

我都係...佢老味...食咁多好野SOSAD

[BECKY566]

呀Dean!!!!!!(:(:

[keikamy]

請問開頭同尾係用左咩樂器呀?!

[rainee0923]

我覺得首歌裏面

''除下襯衣...一向沒當這好手足女子''

意思係萊斯除3,

勞斯先知道中意萊斯唔系因為當萊斯女人

而係一直中意男仔身份既萊斯

但個MV就好似掉翻轉咁

[fun168168]

Dean & Edison...<3 Dean

[tom232722gda]

勞斯同萊斯係兩個男仔

我諗勞斯係偏正常ge,萊斯係偏gay ge(女性化)

"男子和男子 怎能親近如此"

講到明係男同男

但係片中歌詞出現過好多"她"

應該係指萊斯

"終於一次她咩過去 四目對望然後除下襯衣" 她係指萊斯

"迷惑中 勞斯 .. 一向沒當這好手足女子" 係話唔知萊斯鍾意男仔

[andrewlochion]

這首歌真是極品!

太浪漫了!

[Ting1202]

咁靚仔竟然係gay..-﹏-

[zeroslok]

呢首歌相信會歷久常新~~再過多十年廿年都一樣會觸動到用心感受­嘅人!!

個內容點解釋....同另一隻歌「化媟」MV一樣；好似導演麥婉­欣所講：你睇到咩咪咩囉，除非你真係完全無感覺。

[benzenewing]

個MV真係拍得好正，兩種解釋都得

[m82294m]

嗯我認為*除下襯衣*呢句係比喻萊斯向勞斯示愛 向勞斯表示自己既性取向, 即係打開心靠既意思.

*一向沒當這好手足女子*應該係講原來一直唔知個兄弟係鐘意男人­

[FB4822]

應該係 lucy 同 noisy 好好關係, 係密友, 但 lucy 一直當佢係兄弟. 直到一次「除下襯衣」, lucy 當 noisy 係兄弟咁相處咁耐, 先醒覺 noisy 其實係女仔. 而 MV 開頭另一個男仔其實係映照係 edison 當左 noisy 係男仔

[suetkiki]

@FB4822 會唔會係調返轉呢？

[Makka303]

有5個人不懂欣賞...

[murejigent]

其實大家唔洗太執著他同她 他同她可以代表籠統既男性女性 但亦可以代表1個人既內在 我覺得係呢個mv入面, 個2個男仔(勞斯&萊斯)對彼此都有感覺, 勞斯鍾意運動 可以引伸為性格較陽光 不拘小節既男生 萊斯鍾意讀書 可以引伸性格比較陰柔文靜 心思細膩 而隱藏既關係 我覺得係佢地彼此都對大家有好感 勞斯好似異性戀中既男方 萊斯好似異性戀中既女方 萊斯知道自己愛勞斯 因為就算佢兩眼轉開 都知道這是愛.. 但勞斯1直只當萊斯係朋友 所以係友誼既前提下有過好多promises(勾過手指) 甚至勞斯心入面都有好感 但當萊斯剖白(褪下襯衣)後 佢先發覺自己可能係因為世俗恐怖既眼光 而接受唔到(1向沒當這好手足女子) 最後萊斯知道 呢段友誼到此已經完結 所以後面1堆既文字 都係以萊斯既第1人稱作宣泄 最後萊斯只係留下1個疑問 勞斯和萊斯 係咪要好似梁祝咁 收埋自己某1d既野 先可以光明正大咁去愛 古代有門第之見 引伸到可能係而家社會對同性戀既意向.. 呢個係我既睇法 呢首歌我覺得寫得好好 好有意境 好好聽

[carolitea]

什麼時代 斷背又如何 唱出小众的心聲 ！！支持

[crystal3286]

何韻詩自己說了, 這是一個關于兩個男孩的故事.

至於MV當中何韻詩的出現, 可以是他的靈魂, 可以他眼中的他, 可以是一種象徵, 可以是為帶出"愛無分性別", 可以是為了讓觀眾更接受, 可以只是編導的安排...用心意會就好.

[pokwan]

其實係講勞斯同萊斯係青梅竹馬,細個果陣玩埋又點會分男女?

何cc喺3:07果度講「好似細個咁呀~」即係佢地細個果時會一­齊訓

之後萊斯去完外國番黎, 兩個都大個左,兩佢個都仲好friend「日日也親暱如情侶」,

但勞斯冇當過萊斯係女仔

但到「終於一次她撲過去四目對望然後除下襯衣, 迷惑中的勞斯此先至知, 一向沒當這好手足女子」

跟住發現冇當過佢係女仔

「可要像梁祝那樣愛」祝英台都係扮男仔識到梁山伯, 故兩者情況相似

所以我諗應該唔係講同性戀

[blushful]

@pokwan

男人都可以易服，話冇當過佢係「女子」。可以話佢從來冇諗過有愛­佢o既可能，亦可以話冇考慮過自己o既性取向有好多可能。

咁斟酌歌詞，又有冇留意到歌詞不斷重覆提到旁人唔會接受依種愛？

仲有「永遠不出來　世界將依然不變改」入面，講o既「出來（Come Out）」相信亦唔需要多解釋。

而且根本一開始已經係開宗明義講左兩個都係男仔。

不過，我覺得出於市場同埋社會環境，填詞人根本就有心填到無稜兩­可﹑open-ended。

我唔係話一定係講同性戀，只係覺得咁介懷首歌唔可以係講依樣野就­未免有點homophobia。

[anystopper]

如果萊斯係男..點解會響3:46著裙??歌詞都講"男子和男子­,怎能親密如此,勞斯難面對,卻跟她勾過手指"這個她是用了女子­的她呀

[anystopper]

咩唔係話本身何CC同EDISON係青梅竹馬,好似兄弟咁,ED­ISON當左何CC係男仔,但當何CC話結婚時,EDISON先­醒覺到呢個兄弟原來係女仔黎架..

[khxd71]

其實唔係太睇得明..咁何韻詩點 ?個日本靚仔又點-0-? EDISON又點 ??

[bboykido1]

唔知点解我完全睇唔明喔、睇到我一旧云。

[chungdha]

I dont think HOCC is a guy in this clip especially there is a shot of wearing a dress that would be arkward. I think is that edison sees her as one of the guys or she reminds him of a friend, cause he said there is a person he wants her to meet.

[amigogoboy]

自己的男友將要結婚了，可以點面對。。。這不只是一個故事。。

[josephinewu870303]

Love has no gender!!!!!! :) though I'm a heterosexual woman, I still have this thinking

[jwoo127127]

hocc was wearing booty shorts at 3:10 ... does that mean the guy was wearing booty short in the story?

[cyaneum]

每個人心目中的那座斷背山，是為釋放心內美麗情感而聳立。

[yenlyng]

I think the guys becoming a girl thing is just a censorship issue. Not so much 'he sees him as a girl' thing.

[angeldust7777]

nice MV but the chinese captions at the end sound so cheesy

[mayxuan]

啊C好靓啊~~

[shetogether2]

最後的ending是一件西裝和一把剪刀，可能可以理解為「斷袖­」(cut sleeve)，即中國古代對同性化愛的稱呼，我覺得是導演故意­的暗示

愛就愛，為甚麼要計較那麼多？

[nickyboy654]

@shetogether2

其實我覺得岩一半唔岩一半因為 3:24 萊斯為勞斯繡了他的名字 3:40勞斯打扮成女子比萊斯看見了

然後3:59因為萊斯接受不了勞斯所以他不想勞斯誤會便親手把這­名字關起來不寧給勞斯看見免得他誤會 然後在4:40萊斯暗示了給勞斯聽 之後冇人再幫佢做西裝 姐係萊斯會離開佢 4:54萊斯說想介紹朋友給勞斯認識是想給他一個機會 讓他們做回兄弟 誰不知勞斯吻向了萊斯 但萊斯也壓抑不住他心裡的感情 也跟勞斯吻了幾秒 最後在3:59的時候 勞斯親手剪開那秘密 才知道 萊斯也很想愛他 但因為萊斯接受不了世俗人的眼光 最後勞斯便哭了出來 後來萊斯才看見剪刀上的也繡了他的名字 原來兩個早也有共識 但可惜 無奈這現實世界不能夠讓他們兩位正常地戀愛 6:34已經說明了 勞斯已經知道自己要等下一世才能和萊斯相親相愛 (純個人意見) 哈哈

[nickyboy654]

@nickyboy654 最後在5:39 不是3:59 哈哈 抱歉

[onlylove32lam]

藤岡靛真的很帥吶!

可是他中文不太好...他是日本人嘛,.

[liwalung]

兩個都好靚仔

[winniepillow]

DEAN IS SO HOT

he should appear more often :(

[christophermok]

well 1 side of da story... culd be dat.. eddisson wishes that dean was a girl.. so that they could b 2gether.. since in reality gay isn't well overly accepted... wat do u think?!

[ravensnake123]

if edison likes dean, i doubt he'd want dean to be a girl just because of what society thinks. cuz it'd just be different.

[fi0806]

藤岡靛的演出太少了

[winnie15495]

開頭好長

[jashinee]

i like this song~

it's soothing

[Ilovepandasushi]

I think this mv is about 2 guys who love each other but they cannot be together, because gay is not accepted in the chinese culture. Dean felt in love with Edison, but its for Edison a little confusing, because he love him like a brother and not exactly as a lover.That name on the suit is just a friendship thing and that name on the scissor is a love thing. In the end Dean left and hope they can be2gether next life.

Its not the first time that Hocc make mtv with theme: homosexuality!

[lynndebbiepang]

i was just wondering , but who told you chinese culture could not accept gay ?

[lynndebbiepang]

ha ha ,@.@ but there must be people accepting gay as a fact tho , majority of my female friends love gay person , We always found them more sweet and kind then the other~

[Ilovepandasushi]

Offcourse some peeps accept gay peoples, but the most peeps of the Chinese society don't accept that! Chinese are a little TO traditional with that....GAys are like a disease or a illness to them! ;)

I came from Hong Kong, so my parent are a little okay about gay peoples! ^^

[konrox]

are u openly gay? as in does ur paretnys know tath ?O=o ai yah im like in teh closet doe O=o

[Ilovepandasushi]

I'm openly gay! :) Hmm...My father don't know....I think, but he is okay........

But I'm living in Holland so easier...and you?

[konrox]

oo ahha im living in vancouver, im still young doe, still a teen :D ya.. i dunno wat to do with my paretns.. and thsi guy i like O+O

[selinamiffy]

is this the story of butterfly lovers? theres 2 parts in the song. 1st Edision never saw Denise as a girl until she kissed him. I guess then Denise left and Dean (reborn of Denise) reminds Edison of Denise. 2nd part- although he felt like Dean is Denise they cant be tgt cos they are both guys, so he put his name in his suit. thats why Dean (with Denise's memory) was sad cos she knows he still likes her. and thats why he was shocked when he sees Denise's name on the sissors

sorry if im wrong :p

[timoip]

2nd part

But Dean (Denise) attached his name on the red textile and tied on Edisons scissors to show his love. And, Dean kissed him but Edison did not dare to accept this love (the lyrics said Gay Love is not accepted in the traditional Chinese social). Thus, Dean hope they can be in love when they reborn (ps: Im not able to translate this word 下一世 in English and have to use reborn to be similar to the meaning) (End)

[timoip]

1st Part

Edison and Dean both were tailors. Edison was making a suit and attached his name inside the suit for celebrate Dean getting married in coming soon. However, Edison feels Dean his behavior and attitude looked like a girl (acted by Denise). Also, one day Edison found Dean is gay and then he at once covered his name in the suit to avoid any misunderstanding with this friend. (continued)

[selinamiffy]

i think Dean is the '下一世' od denise... no?

[fi0806]

下 那之後咧?

還有我不明白'he at once covered his name in the suit to avoid any misunderstanding with this friend. ' 這一句

[royaltrash]

edison always perceived cc as a guy since they were young and only recently when she came back did he realized she was a girl all along.

[liloocindiee]

omg.. its confusing.. how did the guy become the girl?

[oliiibee]

i think that.. the boy [not edison] likes edison.. and edison keeps seeing him as the girl he once loved.

[chanhangyu]

Amazing MTV, good story and good expression of the theme

[chancherry]

i dont understand...

wt hapened?!

[rawdevil1992]

wooo......edison...the porn photo king HAHAHAHA

[cheerhuang]

i'm touched.the sadest song i have ever heard

[felicialiu941029]

化蝶sad d...