I am sorry but, "it's LIKE a civil rights issue" can we be a little more decisive please.
It IS a civil rights issue. On the other hand... the CONSERVATIVE news organization thought it ought to be repealed, that was definitely an indication that this country was beyond finished with the DADT law. Except for the honorable senator McCain of course.
Right on. This guy knows what he's talking about. I like his practical approach to this, as well as his sense of honor of doing what is right by the citizens of this great country.
EVERYTHING is s sin in God's eyes. Christians have a flavor of the month with pointing out sins of OTHERS. The words GAY and HOMOSEXUAL are dropped more frequently than JESUS and LOVE. It's a personal choice of preachers to drill anti-gay hysteria into their flock.
What still puzzles me is that gays make up less than 3% of the population. Are gays so powerful that they have the strength of 30 heterosexuals, and thus can destroy the entire world? Doesn't that make straight people pussies?
There is no evidence that suggests gays diminish the functionality of the military. The British had a similar policy & repealed it. Guess what happened to their military... they function EXACTLY the SAME. Gays already come out to close friends in their units & these friends usually protect them. So why protect the bigots if there is an overwhelming number of soldiers PROTECTING gays from these policies? What makes the bigots so goddamn special that they can have a policy based on 0 evidence?
@LibsMakeGr8Sandbags , when your concerns are based on bigotry and paranoia, then I only give a fuck about them regarding the damage they do to military effectiveness. If you can't work with your team, whoever they are, you should be out.
You appear to be filled with rage, hate, paranoia, and self righteousness..these qualities put you in the WRONG, and automatically disqualify you from enjoying the society we live in. I'm not gay, but I have no animosity towards gays, as you do. I'm sorry for whatever gay attacks have been perpetrated on you to make you feel so angry about this issue. I predict that you will end up in a prison someday, because of your hateful, angry views. Prison doesnt have "dont ask, dont tell, either."..lol
I served as a law officer in the military & arranged some courts martial for gays
My COs could've just discharged them but wanted to discourage others from coming out just so they could get out of going to Nam
They were usually changed w/ fraudulent enlistment but the officers doing the courts martial considered it a waste of time & none received Dishonorable Discharges - they were all given General under Honorable Conditions
Most in the military I knew don't care if some1 else was gay or not
It is very refreshing to hear someone like COL David Hunt speaking like this. It is absolutely time to do away with this discriminatory, anti-American ban. Instead of enforcing this ridiculous ban, senior military leaders should address the very high incidence of adulterous promiscuity and STD infection that occur inside the services, due to unauthorized fraternization between heterosexual service members. How come they want to ban gays, but turn a blind eye to this very damaging reality?
I don't know about now, but when I was on AD we were expected to put service before self, speak when spoken to, and move out and draw fire when so ordered. The military will obey orders and keep adapting, overcoming, and improvising as they've done since 1775, regardless of any personal opinions or concerns individual service members may have. The military's job is to protect democracy, not practice it. Respect the uniform, and wait until you're back in civilian life to voice your dissent.
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"The military's job is to protect democracy, not practice it."
Good, then we shouldn't be doing a social experiment where it doesn't belong.
It's amazing that certain groups in this country, have been demonized and have no voice at all. That's ok, we'll let our opinions be known in one way or another.
How is this a social experiment? The "experimental" aspect of this has already been done by many other nations with no diminishment in the morale or readiness of their armed forces. This isn't even an opinion of "certain groups", but instead enjoys support among a swath of people of many differing political beliefs.
Just because you like sleeping in the same room with fags, doesn't mean we will. You can listen to the groan and moan all night and even join in if you want to. Have at it.
Doesn't matter. You will get your way (but too pussy to enlist yourself). Then, we will have our way.
Don't be such a baby. Gay people do not pose any threat to you in the showers or in the same sleeping quarters. How many gay people do you know?
The fact is, gay people serve openly , without problems in all other NATO countries (except Turkey). Other people's well being deserves more protection that your hurt feelings - frankly it sounds like you should be the one being kicked out.
Since when is respect for the civil rights of all a "social experiment"? By your logic, desegregation in the military must have been a "social experiment" too. You can make your opinion known when appropriate, even if it is as bigoted and prejudiced as you're making it out to be. It isn't appropriate for you to express your personal opinions in a public, controversial manner while serving on AD. I don't know how long you've been in the military, but you definitely should know better.
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We should not change the Clinton policy. We need to keep it non-sexual between front-line troops, that's one reason we don't allow women to be in combat, too much risk in remote outposts with young people attracted to each other and put together for long periods of time.
But this specific matter should be up to the troops themselves as to what kind of atmosphere they want on the front lines. Service members should vote on this periodically, to allow outed queers or not, majority rules.
Fox finally read a few national opinion polls and found out that outside the standard FNC bubble, a majority of Americans, including a modest majority of REPUBLICANS, favor ending the ban.
The big argument against gays is that they would have to use separate bathrooms, changing areas and sleeping quarters. Just like in civilian life where public bathrooms come in mens, womens and gay, right. Oh that's right- it is a silly excuse, not a legitimate reason.
I am sorry but, "it's LIKE a civil rights issue" can we be a little more decisive please.
It IS a civil rights issue. On the other hand... the CONSERVATIVE news organization thought it ought to be repealed, that was definitely an indication that this country was beyond finished with the DADT law. Except for the honorable senator McCain of course.
PoetsReach 9 months ago
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Why should we decide for the Marines when they are the ones at war. The majority of them Do NOT want to be in war with homosexuals.
udipugar 1 year ago
Alexander the great was gay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cocinandoconsuso 1 year ago
Right on. This guy knows what he's talking about. I like his practical approach to this, as well as his sense of honor of doing what is right by the citizens of this great country.
sammmmmysluggggger 1 year ago
Finally??? Obama is just talk!
Simonet25 1 year ago
@Simonet25 In light of Obama signing the law overturning DADT, are you ready to revisit this comment?
simont7 1 year ago
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EVERYTHING is s sin in God's eyes. Christians have a flavor of the month with pointing out sins of OTHERS. The words GAY and HOMOSEXUAL are dropped more frequently than JESUS and LOVE. It's a personal choice of preachers to drill anti-gay hysteria into their flock.
What still puzzles me is that gays make up less than 3% of the population. Are gays so powerful that they have the strength of 30 heterosexuals, and thus can destroy the entire world? Doesn't that make straight people pussies?
Chelsea4President 1 year ago
"it's like a civil rights issue"
liamdunaway 1 year ago
Woah! this is fox??
jamaq 1 year ago
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There is no evidence that suggests gays diminish the functionality of the military. The British had a similar policy & repealed it. Guess what happened to their military... they function EXACTLY the SAME. Gays already come out to close friends in their units & these friends usually protect them. So why protect the bigots if there is an overwhelming number of soldiers PROTECTING gays from these policies? What makes the bigots so goddamn special that they can have a policy based on 0 evidence?
HBanana55 1 year ago
WTF? how do gay people go to the bathroom differently? Fox news is really stupid
erictarin 1 year ago
@erictarin hes talking about women serving in the military.
zasabiibasaz 1 year ago
@erictarin He was referring to when women weren't allowed at one time either.
rakrobn 1 year ago
Don;t be fooled fellow Libtards!, Fox is phoney and was just testing the Pro-Repeal angle on their core viewers
Its called "floating a trial balloon".
MurkyMike 1 year ago
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What has happened to Fox News?! They used to be fair and balanced... this is typical liberal schlock! have the partnered up with MSNBC and CNN?
Rite4AReason 1 year ago
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It's a moment of REASON on their stupid network!
PumaOPumaOPumaO 1 year ago
It's typical commercialism at its finest.
They're saying this only to get more viewers!
Any smart military person would deny letting gays in. This guy's probably getting a nice kickback from some gay lobbying group!
Everyone knows gays have tons of dough, and they spend it to further their agenda!
Rite4AReason 1 year ago
you are a first class idiot.
milou66 1 year ago
@Rite4AReason Paranoid much?
davidls11 1 year ago
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This is all easy for you guys to say. You don't have to share a bunk bed with one.
But who gives a fuck about our concerns.
Hope nobody gets hurt or shot (accidentally of course) that would be terrible...........
LibsMakeGr8Sandbags 1 year ago
@LibsMakeGr8Sandbags , when your concerns are based on bigotry and paranoia, then I only give a fuck about them regarding the damage they do to military effectiveness. If you can't work with your team, whoever they are, you should be out.
rg0057 1 year ago 7
@rg0057 I'll be working with my team alright.
You have NO understanding of who we are.
LibsMakeGr8Sandbags 1 year ago
You appear to be filled with rage, hate, paranoia, and self righteousness..these qualities put you in the WRONG, and automatically disqualify you from enjoying the society we live in. I'm not gay, but I have no animosity towards gays, as you do. I'm sorry for whatever gay attacks have been perpetrated on you to make you feel so angry about this issue. I predict that you will end up in a prison someday, because of your hateful, angry views. Prison doesnt have "dont ask, dont tell, either."..lol
MickMan211 1 year ago 4
I served as a law officer in the military & arranged some courts martial for gays
My COs could've just discharged them but wanted to discourage others from coming out just so they could get out of going to Nam
They were usually changed w/ fraudulent enlistment but the officers doing the courts martial considered it a waste of time & none received Dishonorable Discharges - they were all given General under Honorable Conditions
Most in the military I knew don't care if some1 else was gay or not
DillonX 1 year ago 4
If a gay or lesbian wants to fight let them. I have never understood why people are so concerned about were others put their naughty bits.
st4ticblu3 1 year ago 5
America is clearly still stuck in the dark ages.
166beads 1 year ago 5
It is very refreshing to hear someone like COL David Hunt speaking like this. It is absolutely time to do away with this discriminatory, anti-American ban. Instead of enforcing this ridiculous ban, senior military leaders should address the very high incidence of adulterous promiscuity and STD infection that occur inside the services, due to unauthorized fraternization between heterosexual service members. How come they want to ban gays, but turn a blind eye to this very damaging reality?
armyveteran101st 1 year ago 3
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Has anyone asked what we, the military wants?
LibsMakeGr8Sandbags 1 year ago
I don't know about now, but when I was on AD we were expected to put service before self, speak when spoken to, and move out and draw fire when so ordered. The military will obey orders and keep adapting, overcoming, and improvising as they've done since 1775, regardless of any personal opinions or concerns individual service members may have. The military's job is to protect democracy, not practice it. Respect the uniform, and wait until you're back in civilian life to voice your dissent.
armyveteran101st 1 year ago 3
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"The military's job is to protect democracy, not practice it."
Good, then we shouldn't be doing a social experiment where it doesn't belong.
It's amazing that certain groups in this country, have been demonized and have no voice at all. That's ok, we'll let our opinions be known in one way or another.
LibsMakeGr8Sandbags 1 year ago
How is this a social experiment? The "experimental" aspect of this has already been done by many other nations with no diminishment in the morale or readiness of their armed forces. This isn't even an opinion of "certain groups", but instead enjoys support among a swath of people of many differing political beliefs.
ErisRising 1 year ago 5
@LibsMakeGr8Sandbags , it's not you who have no voice. Which law exactly tells you "Don't Tell"? Baby.
rg0057 1 year ago 2
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@rg0057
The UCMJ.
Just because you like sleeping in the same room with fags, doesn't mean we will. You can listen to the groan and moan all night and even join in if you want to. Have at it.
Doesn't matter. You will get your way (but too pussy to enlist yourself). Then, we will have our way.
Hope it's worth it.
LibsMakeGr8Sandbags 1 year ago
Don't be such a baby. Gay people do not pose any threat to you in the showers or in the same sleeping quarters. How many gay people do you know?
The fact is, gay people serve openly , without problems in all other NATO countries (except Turkey). Other people's well being deserves more protection that your hurt feelings - frankly it sounds like you should be the one being kicked out.
amsterdammed71 1 year ago 12
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Nobody is worried about threats from gays. You're missing the point. But like I said. it doesn't matter.
We will express out opinion in another way.
LibsMakeGr8Sandbags 1 year ago
People only express their opinion with violence when they are too stupid or immature to get people to see their point by using logic and reason.
MickMan211 1 year ago
I'll enjoy getting "stupid" on the fags.
I hope you think it's worth it.
LibsMakeGr8Sandbags 1 year ago
@LibsMakeGr8Sandbags Something tells me "getting stupid" comes easily to you.
davidls11 1 year ago
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"gay people serve openly"
Yeah... with their open gapping asshole from being fisted all night long!
Rite4AReason 1 year ago
Since when is respect for the civil rights of all a "social experiment"? By your logic, desegregation in the military must have been a "social experiment" too. You can make your opinion known when appropriate, even if it is as bigoted and prejudiced as you're making it out to be. It isn't appropriate for you to express your personal opinions in a public, controversial manner while serving on AD. I don't know how long you've been in the military, but you definitely should know better.
armyveteran101st 1 year ago
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We should not change the Clinton policy. We need to keep it non-sexual between front-line troops, that's one reason we don't allow women to be in combat, too much risk in remote outposts with young people attracted to each other and put together for long periods of time.
But this specific matter should be up to the troops themselves as to what kind of atmosphere they want on the front lines. Service members should vote on this periodically, to allow outed queers or not, majority rules.
RuflessRecords 1 year ago
We should let white people vote if they want to re-institute slavery as well.
nflfv2kctf 1 year ago 2
nfl, no that would be rules governing the population at large, not just inside the military.
It would be best to keep it non-sexual between the troops.
RuflessRecords 1 year ago
Fox finally read a few national opinion polls and found out that outside the standard FNC bubble, a majority of Americans, including a modest majority of REPUBLICANS, favor ending the ban.
Snowcarv406 1 year ago 4
What are they doing? They are ruining the script they have been serving the American Public for years!!!!
clipshowguy 1 year ago 5
Clever like a fox.
whosoever 1 year ago
Fox News gets a gold star for this one.
robespierrebeauregar 1 year ago 4
"How you go to the bathroom..."
Ummm....what does that have to do with the conversation? Do gays go to the bathroom while standing on their heads?
the1henson 1 year ago
He meant women vs. men, I think.
abemahler 1 year ago 2
nope
rickandgary 1 year ago
Maybe he was thinking of Larry Craig and his 'wide stance'. ;-)
khpa3665 1 year ago 3
The big argument against gays is that they would have to use separate bathrooms, changing areas and sleeping quarters. Just like in civilian life where public bathrooms come in mens, womens and gay, right. Oh that's right- it is a silly excuse, not a legitimate reason.
cminmd0041 1 year ago
I think he means the differences between men and women.
taybaxter 1 year ago
Wow. That was a little unexpected.
cjk002 2 years ago 2
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What have happened!?.. sounds like a reasoned argument.. very strange..
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