It was quite obvious there is no non-Korean competitive Brood War, because all the foreigners (who traditionally suck at BW) will want to jump straight to the new, shiny game which gives them a fresh start (and hopefully a head start on Koreans who through cultural disinterest may be slow to move to SC2)
i really enjoyed this, you should make weekly or monthly roundup videos. maby add some pics of ppl or things ur talkin about but thats alot of work. aneway .
Starcraft 2 should have just been a remake of Starcraft 1 with updated graphics and a lot more things added on... I'd rather not see the Starcraft community split TT TT.
i don't really understand how you can justify sc2 skill ceiling by all the players being bad/washed up pro gamers and doing well. Of course those players are going to do better because they practiced their mechanic everyday for years. They couldn't cut it in starcraft broodwar so they desided to play the game that requires less apm and skill all around. If anything that proves that sc2 skill ceiling is way lower.
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next time you do a non-game video please at least put interesting pictures or screenshots or something every 10 seconds, or just provide an MP3 download to listen to. it's annoying to stare at the metal thing for 15 minutes :(
the timing of the rigged matches scandale while Blizzard was negociating exclusive rights with GomTV and blocking any agreements with KeSPA... was very suspicious.
Right before the beta came out. And now KeSPA has lost all credibility to run the progaming scene. Blizzard asked for exclusivity over pro-team replays, which makes secret strategies impossible.
Blizzard owes big time to KeSPA for keeping SC alive all this time. A sequel of a 12 yold game would never be a hit otherwise...
Does anyone know if commentators like moletrap, husky etc. will be able to to cast games from tournaments like the TGI? or is there different legal things which are in the way of this?
i have to say i hate that flash has "solved" brood wars. Kinda makes brood wars finally end with 1 dominant player. Guess it might sum it up well for some players but I don't want to give it up. Want it to still be competitive and in flux. Sigh. end of an era.
@TheLlamaSC ono, i watch moletrap all the time. i don't comment very often though. he's my favorite commentator next to Cholera, but Cholera is awal :(
thanks for the news moletrap. but i dont agree with sc2 having lower skill cap then bw, sure its easyer to hit the macro skill cap then in bw but on the other hand its imposible to hit the skill cap in micro(for a human atleast) in both sc2 and bw, you cant control every unit individualy at the same time, it would be optimal but not possible. i could even se that you need even more micro skill in sc2 because units natuarly clump up so spliting your army becomes even more important than before.
Whether it be good or bad things happening with the Gom TV stuff, with SC2 gaining such momentum, it seems that eSports is going to explode within the next couple of months / years...
I dont know why this happened, why would Blizzard disrespect Kespa like this after all they've done for the scene and subsequently, their sales?
Gom is a terrible exploitative service, videos are unwatchable unstable and overpriced, Blizzard's decision to pimp out their product has prevented pro gaming from going mainstream for another couple years in pursuit of the petty dollar
@slowfuse I disagree, starcraft one would never become a worldwide mainstream, it's just too outdated graphics wise...and thats what mainstream cares about, unfortunately.
@TehBirddCage I was talking more about the scene and culture in general, not specific to brood.
If Gom had made a decent ethical business model, other companies could emulate it with other games/leagues and then developers would have more incentive to make spectator/competive style games...instead, gom are killing the goose
@slowfuse Bobby Kotick happened. That man has run Guitar Hero/Tony Hawk/Modern Warfare into the ground trying to squeeze every last dime out of them. Ever since the Blizz/Activision merger, there have been some scary changes to EULA, etc. I'm not surprised this happened, if Kotick thought he could make a quick buck out of it.
@slowfuse Yep. And it gets worse. Apparently he wanted to strip SC2 of all its cutscenes, chop them up into a single 'movie' and then sell it to double-dip into everyones' pockets. What a greedy pig.
@Strand0410 Activision and Blizzard didnt merge. Activision and Vivendi did. The name Activision Blizzard is confusing, but Blizzard is a seperate company, and they have their own management
@sufilix Because real players actually play dozens of successful games to crawl into the higher leagues and stay there, unlike others who merely blitz their placement matches from beta experience to get into a league they're obviously not meant to be in.
And I don't know NA servers, but as an Aussie, i'm on the Asian one and it's damn competitive in Diamond.
@noamzilo lol i disagree, i think it was the stupidest thing he said in all of this events commentarys. Things still change, and units you thought were useless are suddenly viable. Then Terran starts meching versus zerg for a period of time. It keeps shifting. And its not like Flash determined the metagame, that was done by players WAY more old school.
You're right about that. The game posted on here (by you or Diggity?) between July and (was it Tester?) was AMAZING. I'm not looking forward to the day when BroodWar is gone, because I don't like SC2 as well, but still it was a breath of fresh air.
D: Moletrap! You need to work xDDD We come second. I'm pretty sure SC will continue... the Korean Government is now fighting Blizzard lol... good luck blizzard. Anyways, I love your commentaries, SC1 or SC2... Ur Amazing!
its sad that brood war is coming too an end i felt that brood war is a better game then starcraft 2 because its an older game so there is alot of glitches and tricks that a progamer can use too win
Do you ever contact Baezzi? Jon747 youtube account was suspended and no one knows exactly why (people assume uploading the latest WCG vods got him suspended) or what's going to happen with it.
Well ... RIP BroodWars, you been good past couple years. Sad to see it go; assuming it goes for good.
Personally I hate SC2, not much you can do though. I s'pose it'll be good to see some big names returning to the scene.
I have to disagree with your "solving the game" thing, though. SC1 and SC2 are practically the same thing, just with enhanced graphics (not in my book) a few different units and spells. It would really just take a couple games to figure the building times
I think the fact that Flash and Jaedong are so good at BW contributes to players going to sc2 because they feel they just can't beat these guys and win a starleague anyways. these 2 accounted for 10 of the last 12 starleague finalists? thats not motivating for others lol
Trap stuck in the ground, over a hole, spring gets retracted with the spike of death!!!!! , mole goes to pop its head up out of its hole and...................one dead mole, fucking disgusting if you ask me all because people cant tolerate existing with anything else apart from their own god complex insognificance.......sigh
@LetJimiT8keOver but it's moletrap, he deserves my undivided attention!
j0e2 1 year ago
Thanks for the update! I've been out of the loop because of school and work - this really helped!
kaptainkrunch408 1 year ago
noob heads of SC1 moving to SC2 are still noob heads!
jesuscheung 1 year ago
@jesuscheung dude... What are you talking about? All these guys have absolutely incredible skill.
DawnOfDemise 1 year ago
It was quite obvious there is no non-Korean competitive Brood War, because all the foreigners (who traditionally suck at BW) will want to jump straight to the new, shiny game which gives them a fresh start (and hopefully a head start on Koreans who through cultural disinterest may be slow to move to SC2)
Strand0410 1 year ago
Moletrap, I just started watching your videos last week, and you are by far the best caster I've ever heard. It's not even close.
mholden02 1 year ago
lol right at the end you were talking about "platinum" and "diamond" in the starcraft ladder and I thought you were talking about pokemon ^^
FriedChckn13 1 year ago
Seriously, you should cast the WCG 2010 finals! Great matchup and cant find any english commentary of it yet (Y)
mysman 1 year ago
I hope starcraft 2 suceed like starcraft.
RealmEternal 1 year ago
BoxeR qualified for the GSL #2!
Apparently, in the process of training, he also got to #9 on the asia ladder.
Not that the asia ladder means much, 'cos a lot of good players don't ladder at all.
JulyZerg got knocked out in the prelims, by a guy called GayBar. LOL.
Danceofmasks 1 year ago
i really enjoyed this, you should make weekly or monthly roundup videos. maby add some pics of ppl or things ur talkin about but thats alot of work. aneway .
deadNIGHTCRAWLER 1 year ago
Nice newscast!
MaartenZaagman 1 year ago
Starcraft 2 should have just been a remake of Starcraft 1 with updated graphics and a lot more things added on... I'd rather not see the Starcraft community split TT TT.
modipete90 1 year ago
i don't really understand how you can justify sc2 skill ceiling by all the players being bad/washed up pro gamers and doing well. Of course those players are going to do better because they practiced their mechanic everyday for years. They couldn't cut it in starcraft broodwar so they desided to play the game that requires less apm and skill all around. If anything that proves that sc2 skill ceiling is way lower.
pbisaI 1 year ago
OH NOES IT"S THE FRUIT DESTROYER!!!
evilpuppy 1 year ago
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next time you do a non-game video please at least put interesting pictures or screenshots or something every 10 seconds, or just provide an MP3 download to listen to. it's annoying to stare at the metal thing for 15 minutes :(
j0e2 1 year ago
@j0e2 I didn't have time to do all that this time :P
moletrap 1 year ago 4
@moletrap hire some foreigners to do it! haven't you heard of offshoring jobs?
j0e2 1 year ago
@moletrap moletrap please ignore that idiot. most people appreciate the awesome work you do. i am one of them.
scorinaldi 1 year ago
@j0e2 there's nothing forcing you to stare at the metal thing
hizzlemafizzle 1 year ago
@hizzlemafizzle only my OCD
j0e2 1 year ago
@j0e2 or, you know, just look at a different window
flamingopie 1 year ago
@flamingopie but then if the video changed i would miss it :(
j0e2 1 year ago
@j0e2 metal... maybe Moletrap was thinking Mech?
Sassar 1 year ago
@j0e2 intesting picture every 10 seconds for 15 minutes.
I don't expect him to pull out 90 different "intesting" pictures. Just go do somethign else while you listen.
Draffut2003 1 year ago
the timing of the rigged matches scandale while Blizzard was negociating exclusive rights with GomTV and blocking any agreements with KeSPA... was very suspicious.
Right before the beta came out. And now KeSPA has lost all credibility to run the progaming scene. Blizzard asked for exclusivity over pro-team replays, which makes secret strategies impossible.
Blizzard owes big time to KeSPA for keeping SC alive all this time. A sequel of a 12 yold game would never be a hit otherwise...
froggybenoit 1 year ago 3
RIP SC BW. You were the #1 exciting game in the world and will be missed dearly.
Let us take a moment in silence . . .
wheezy7777777 1 year ago 3
Thank you moletrap for continuing to do BW videos, like seriously. I have a lot of trouble getting hyped over SC2 compared to BW
dancydance 1 year ago
Thanks for the update on the scene man. I like to watch sc commentary, but don't have the time to keep up on forums and such :)
boredtodeathwth 1 year ago
BOOOOOOOOOOOXXXXXERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!
mage36 1 year ago
Does anyone know if commentators like moletrap, husky etc. will be able to to cast games from tournaments like the TGI? or is there different legal things which are in the way of this?
SC2warms 1 year ago
i have to say i hate that flash has "solved" brood wars. Kinda makes brood wars finally end with 1 dominant player. Guess it might sum it up well for some players but I don't want to give it up. Want it to still be competitive and in flux. Sigh. end of an era.
userasdf 1 year ago
@userasdf Feels kinda sad, but still everything changes the show must go on.
uppvarmd 1 year ago
Moletrap you get this little hours because your boss watches your videos and he wants you to make more!
DylanSon2 1 year ago
That sure is a moletrap.
mariwana18 1 year ago
Is the pro scene poised to make the switch to sc2 yet or does it look like sc will be the main pro platform for a while?
spamllpitdept 1 year ago
This was very helpful I knew nothing about that now I do. You should do these regularly like once a month
SkyDragoNSC2 1 year ago
Effort~
SkySparkZ 1 year ago
is that a mole trap in the picture? haha
liutenghou 1 year ago 3
@liutenghou are you new to this channel?
TheLlamaSC 1 year ago
@TheLlamaSC ono, i watch moletrap all the time. i don't comment very often though. he's my favorite commentator next to Cholera, but Cholera is awal :(
liutenghou 1 year ago
btw, I believe the name is Fruit Dealer, not Fruit Seller
ThePbducky 1 year ago
@ThePbducky
well then ur wrong
Pigzyf5 1 year ago
@ThePbducky Different translations of the same Korean. Same difference.
moletrap 1 year ago 10
@ThePbducky It's probably impossible to establish one translation. So far I've seen:
Fruit Seller
Fruit Dealer
Fruit Vendor
Fruit Merchant
I'm sure there's some more.
nullsah 1 year ago
@nullsah
Actually, the most accurate translation is Cut-Me-Own-Fruit Dibbler.
Fuckyoubloodymoron 1 year ago
You could probably find some vods from wcg finals. I didn't see all of the matches from it but they're better than nothing.
gortegagingrich 1 year ago
thanks for the news moletrap. but i dont agree with sc2 having lower skill cap then bw, sure its easyer to hit the macro skill cap then in bw but on the other hand its imposible to hit the skill cap in micro(for a human atleast) in both sc2 and bw, you cant control every unit individualy at the same time, it would be optimal but not possible. i could even se that you need even more micro skill in sc2 because units natuarly clump up so spliting your army becomes even more important than before.
RoMMeL1337ak47 1 year ago
Thanks for the update moletrap! we look forward to future sc commentaries!
ACFunky 1 year ago 3
Starcraft Broodwar will always be the better game! SC bw RIP!
TotteTheBreaker 1 year ago
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firelegSC 1 year ago
EF THIS. gomtv. Why own rights when no one here has ACCESS to korean tv? ....
i8thefood 1 year ago
Whether it be good or bad things happening with the Gom TV stuff, with SC2 gaining such momentum, it seems that eSports is going to explode within the next couple of months / years...
frostydisco 1 year ago
this feels like Armageddon with BW dying like this... it's fucking awsul WHAT AM I GOING TO DO!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
pooptrain92 1 year ago
omfg for realz? moon and lyn switched there gonna be beasts lol
moviemaster2010 1 year ago
where do you work?
gouldbourn1 1 year ago
thanks for the info moletrap. i was one who had no idea what was going on.
gouldbourn1 1 year ago
I dont know why this happened, why would Blizzard disrespect Kespa like this after all they've done for the scene and subsequently, their sales?
Gom is a terrible exploitative service, videos are unwatchable unstable and overpriced, Blizzard's decision to pimp out their product has prevented pro gaming from going mainstream for another couple years in pursuit of the petty dollar
slowfuse 1 year ago 13
@slowfuse I disagree, starcraft one would never become a worldwide mainstream, it's just too outdated graphics wise...and thats what mainstream cares about, unfortunately.
TehBirddCage 1 year ago
@TehBirddCage I was talking more about the scene and culture in general, not specific to brood.
If Gom had made a decent ethical business model, other companies could emulate it with other games/leagues and then developers would have more incentive to make spectator/competive style games...instead, gom are killing the goose
slowfuse 1 year ago
ethical business model? lol overpriced
wasdwasdedsf 1 year ago
@slowfuse Bobby Kotick happened. That man has run Guitar Hero/Tony Hawk/Modern Warfare into the ground trying to squeeze every last dime out of them. Ever since the Blizz/Activision merger, there have been some scary changes to EULA, etc. I'm not surprised this happened, if Kotick thought he could make a quick buck out of it.
Strand0410 1 year ago
@Strand0410 never heard of that guy until now. I looked him up, he is definitely the culprit, what a fag.
slowfuse 1 year ago
@slowfuse Yep. And it gets worse. Apparently he wanted to strip SC2 of all its cutscenes, chop them up into a single 'movie' and then sell it to double-dip into everyones' pockets. What a greedy pig.
Strand0410 1 year ago
@Strand0410 Activision and Blizzard didnt merge. Activision and Vivendi did. The name Activision Blizzard is confusing, but Blizzard is a seperate company, and they have their own management
DawnOfDemise 1 year ago
grubby is also moving to sc2 right
l1nk115 1 year ago
how can you not be diamond? noobs with 20 apm get in there. Can't be lack of skill. Just win a couple of games and you'll be fine.
sufilix 1 year ago
@sufilix Because real players actually play dozens of successful games to crawl into the higher leagues and stay there, unlike others who merely blitz their placement matches from beta experience to get into a league they're obviously not meant to be in.
And I don't know NA servers, but as an Aussie, i'm on the Asian one and it's damn competitive in Diamond.
Strand0410 1 year ago
thanks for the video moletrap
styler9 1 year ago
shoutout to waugie
WB6835 1 year ago
"flash has solved starcraft".
words of a true genious
noamzilo 1 year ago
@noamzilo lol i disagree, i think it was the stupidest thing he said in all of this events commentarys. Things still change, and units you thought were useless are suddenly viable. Then Terran starts meching versus zerg for a period of time. It keeps shifting. And its not like Flash determined the metagame, that was done by players WAY more old school.
DawnOfDemise 1 year ago
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noamzilo 1 year ago
hoecome video able to be 15 min long now?
mognite 1 year ago
@mognite youtube changed it
jax1492 1 year ago
You're right about that. The game posted on here (by you or Diggity?) between July and (was it Tester?) was AMAZING. I'm not looking forward to the day when BroodWar is gone, because I don't like SC2 as well, but still it was a breath of fresh air.
MrAndersonmm 1 year ago
D: Moletrap! You need to work xDDD We come second. I'm pretty sure SC will continue... the Korean Government is now fighting Blizzard lol... good luck blizzard. Anyways, I love your commentaries, SC1 or SC2... Ur Amazing!
fangedcow12345 1 year ago
Brood war noobies(pro-game) going to starcraft 2 and thinkin they hot shit.
HAL0S 1 year ago
Why can't there be both like college basket ball and NFL basket ball?
r29 1 year ago
its sad that brood war is coming too an end i felt that brood war is a better game then starcraft 2 because its an older game so there is alot of glitches and tricks that a progamer can use too win
masterwoozo 1 year ago 3
Do you ever contact Baezzi? Jon747 youtube account was suspended and no one knows exactly why (people assume uploading the latest WCG vods got him suspended) or what's going to happen with it.
crazeh 1 year ago
Well ... RIP BroodWars, you been good past couple years. Sad to see it go; assuming it goes for good.
Personally I hate SC2, not much you can do though. I s'pose it'll be good to see some big names returning to the scene.
I have to disagree with your "solving the game" thing, though. SC1 and SC2 are practically the same thing, just with enhanced graphics (not in my book) a few different units and spells. It would really just take a couple games to figure the building times
...
ChAoS9779 1 year ago
@ChAoS9779
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times out and adjust strategies as such. I know some of the top players will have unbeatable strats in notime, assuming there aren't any as is.
Good to see a video from ya, can't wait to see more, be it BroodWars or not.
ChAoS9779 1 year ago
Lol, "flash has solved starcraft" :D
ButCritically 1 year ago 2
a mole trap.
obliviousnz 1 year ago
I think the fact that Flash and Jaedong are so good at BW contributes to players going to sc2 because they feel they just can't beat these guys and win a starleague anyways. these 2 accounted for 10 of the last 12 starleague finalists? thats not motivating for others lol
Mendelevium146 1 year ago
boxer!! yeaaa
staplerjm 1 year ago
Epic
though, i still really want the broodwar tourneys to still go on =(
WNxLigerzx 1 year ago
Imagine a Nada Vs. Julyzerg for GSL season 2 Finals.
Jeeze, Gom's ratings would go through the roof.
MapleMeadows 1 year ago
Trap stuck in the ground, over a hole, spring gets retracted with the spike of death!!!!! , mole goes to pop its head up out of its hole and...................one dead mole, fucking disgusting if you ask me all because people cant tolerate existing with anything else apart from their own god complex insognificance.......sigh
Palendrome69 1 year ago
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staplerjm 1 year ago
@staplerjm i would sell both my kidneys for this
Xaklyth 1 year ago
Very nice video TY
Mendelevium146 1 year ago
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RADIOHEADismyname 1 year ago
wtf is that picture...
wh0racle3 1 year ago
@wh0racle3 It's a .. *drumroll* .. Mole Trap!
cascadeSC 1 year ago
@wh0racle3 Its what an actual mole trap is, as in the animal that digs tunnels in the ground not the awesome SC commentator.
fitzergerald 1 year ago
@wh0racle3
it is a moletrap
manuelschindler 1 year ago