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damn basic human needs shelter and food its ashame that a person has to go through so much just to have basic needs between taxes and loan rates its gonna be tough for the younger generation when uncle sam gives all the jobs to forighners and dont wanna pay yea shit if you do get a job
Yes, foreclosure IS torture, especially with young children involved - and if hadn't been for the kids, I would be be 6 feet under by now or dust in the wind.
Where? Alaska When? 1984 Why? Oil recession. Thousands lost their homes only to be resold by the banks for pennies on the dollar.
Like lawyers, bankers should be terminated. People lived without them for centuries. Let's start all over without them. Oh, throw in the politicians too. Sarah Palin can go fuck herself.
Bullshit. Don't you think these people prayed desperately with tears in there eyes! Where was god when this kind lady needed him most? Where was god to stop the scamming bankers and lenders from perpetuating this fraud? WHERE WAS GOD!? Where was the mercy and the Justice? The fact is there is no god and if there is he doesn't give a damn. They did what was best for their lives, the one decision they alone had control over and I do not ridicule them for their actions. It's all about dignity.
That's horrible. Foreclosure is VERY stressful. I know, I went through it 7 years ago. It's hard to think of the future when you can build your finances up again and possible get another house with better terms... we did.
If you do not have any money in this country you are dead. the torture of not having money is very severe. When you work hard your whole life and this gets handed to you and you loose everything you worked for your whole life and it gets taken away and you are faced with being a burden on other people just to survive then what? These people paid taxes their whole lives and this is what they got!
@YragQtip: ur right. MishuTaste obviously has never been out of work for an extended time, nor suffered great depression or great hopelessness. he's never had to beg for $ on the streets or ask his neighbors to help him out. he's never had to sell everything he's owned, nor stayed at homeless shelters, or been thought of as too old to hire, etc.
@Mishu: if ur children had enough $ to make TWO mortgages, then that's one thing. but u must live in a higher inc. level if ppl in ur world can afford to do that.
@Khyron: what country do u live in that u get unemploymt for 2 to 5 yrs? oh lord. can we all live there? cuz i know u cant get that kind of $ here in the U.S.
@Khyron: then she's not getting unemploymt but prolly SSI. articles(dot)moneycentral.msn(dot)com/SmartSpending/blog/page. aspx? post =1690318: In normal times, benefits are funded by a tax on employers in all but a handful of states. They normally last for 26 weeks. While collecting, you do have to look for “suitable” work -- generally your previous occupation.The amount of the weekly benefit differs by state, but on average is 36% of an average wage, the National Employment Law Project says.
@Khyr:continued...In deep recessions, it’s not unusual for unemployment benefits to be extended temporarily. About 11.4 million Americans are now receiving benefits, about half for more than six months, according to The Washington Post. They're available for nearly two years in the states with the highest unemployment rates. Some people have been getting unemployment benefits for so long -- they've been extended to up to 99 weeks in some hard-hit locations...
@khyr: CA's EDD: 18 months is the current claim length as of 1/1/09 due to extensions. your claim balance may run out sooner however, if you are receiving the maximum weekly benefit of $450 plus the $25 emergency stimulus amount. There have been 3 extensions, the latest extension of 20 weeks has not yet gone into effect
@Khyron: u have to be fired from ur job & your former workplace has to admit u were fired, which some wont. unemployment doesnt go for 2-5 yrs & it doesnt cover most of ur lost wages. idk about these older ppl's job status or how many yrs they were unemployed so that they couldnt file for unemploymt anyways. but look around, most of the places ppl shop or eat at only hire young ppl.
@Khyr: if he/she has kids, then the kids are getting benefits that ARENT part of the unemploymt benefits. unemplymt benefits wouldnt be given to children. disabled ppl get disability benefits, esp. children get extra care & coverage.
@YragQtip Two adults should be able to put their heads together and figure out a way to earn income. Losing a house isn't the end of the world. The lady was probably a few years away from collecting Social Security. They could sell their furniture, beg for money, get a cheap ass apartment and possibly get temporary jobs through an employment agency. Or live w/ relatives & work. It's embarrassing, but it's not impossible to survive that way. Your relatives don't want you to die. They'll help.
@Mishu: ur assuming they had family that would help them; personal property to sell; $ to afford a cheap apt; temporary jobs given to older folks; enough $ gotten from begging; etc. idk where u live, but here in los angeles, homeless older ppl, even those begging in the streets, dont get enough to move into those so-called cheap apts, which here, costs quite a bit. they have relatives who couldnt care less. i know. i tried to help one older guy who had about 11 siblings, not one of them cared.
@rumpole33 Yes, there are no cheap apartments in Los Angeles. I lived there. But this couple is in Texas. I don't see how suicide is the best option for them. If an illegal alien is able to get a job and get government aid w/o a social security number, think about how much an American citizen can do! This couple had to have some kind of talent, otherwise they wouldn't be able to live in a house. Texas is affordable. A guy in his 40s can get a job doing SOMETHING. A job + social security checks.
@Mishu: even in texas, u'd need $ to have an apt. how many older illegals do u see w/ jobs? younger ppl, illegal or not, is the only sector ppl will mostly hire from, regardless of what industry. if u'd really lived in l.a., then u'd know there are plenty of americans living on the streets- so ur pollyanna idea of what americans can do goes only so far in the real world. the house was probably bought by the father or the woman's former husband. even TX has lack of jobs. u cant get cks at 40.
@Mishu: not everybody in his 40s, 50s, 60s can get a job, regardless of where u live. that's why there's poverty in every state. again, the woman might not have been qualified for soc. sec, even if she reached the qualified age. i dont think u know much about the paymt tiers & the qualifications to receive $ if at all. if she was mostly a housewife, then she's not going to get any $. if she didnt pay into it enough to earn the credits to get paymts even w/ a job, then she's still not getting it
@Mishu: soc. security starts at $600-something. doesnt cover much for rent, let alone other expenses like food, ins., meds, utilities, toiletries, etc. also, if u apply at 60-something, u only get a bit of ur full soc. sec.. u have to be in ur 70s now (right?) to get the full amt w/o applying for premature paymts. that's assuming the woman worked enough out of the home to have put enough into the soc. sec. fund. if not, then she wont qualify for it no matter what age she is.
@YragQtip I've experienced unemployment many times. I've buried my pride & lived w/ relatives while working my way out of that situation. It's highly embarrassing, but it's better than giving up. I am not a mean person and I have sympathy for people who are faced w/ a foreclosure. But this couple had more material wealth than 50% of humanity. There are millions of people living in shacks in Third World nations. If they can handle that kind of stress, why can't we Americans handle it?
@Mishu: we're not in a 3rd world country that has no property tax, utility bills, loitering laws, etc on 'shacks.' we cant live that way, cuz our system is set up differently. i see 'shacks' all the time here in los angeles, esp by the freeways by the homeless trying to live in tents under the bridges. they get shoved out by the cops, raped, killed by non-homeless ppl looking for murderous fun, etc. there was a recent death in my memory of a homeless guy set on fire by a non-homeless jerk.
Sometimes cops can be pitifully insensitive to the plight of others . . . I am a victim of this depression. I cried for six months after I lost my home and sought help. I got none. So, today, a homeowner once-upon-a-time for 30 years, understand completely why this couple chose their hopeless fate. I believe that this will continue to happen with increasing frequency until everyone who lost their home is compensated.
I would do this: have a garage sale. Sell everything! Try to borrow money from my relatives. Get signed up w/ employment agencies. I'd knock on neighbor's doors and offer to clean up their houses for money. I'd go to the gas station and pump gas & wash windows for money. I'd collect bottles & cans & take that to the recycling center for money. I'd go to food banks. I'd get a cheap ass apartment. The woman was in her 60s. Couldn't she wait a few years to collect Social Security?!!
@Mishu: when ppl cant even afford mortgage, their not liable to have property worth much $. again, employmt agencies only work if there are employers who want older ppl -many dont. i've seen ppl try to offer their svcs door to door, but that really didnt work out since ppl dont want to pay for something they can do for free themselves, esp. nowadays. u'd get chased out by cops if u go on private property like gas stations cuz they'll say ur harassing them. that's why u dont see much of them here
@Mishu: ppl do collect bottles, but u have to be 1st of many, since there's so many others doing the same thing. & if ur lucky to get one bag, here in ca, that's only $3. food banks are far & few in between. u have to buy bus passes just to get there, then what's given out isnt enough, since there's less donors nowadays. i've worked at a food bank. maybe she couldnt wait cuz it was SEVERAL yrs away, but then again, she'd have had to earn enough credit to get any paymts at all.
@Mishu: it's always easy to say you'd do this or that, when u've never had to be that poor where u've had to beg on the streets, like ppl i know personally. cops keep giving tickets to the homeless just to harass them out of the city. how can u pay up if ur benefits are deducted in order to pay the fines, late fees, & interest? it's a vicious cycle. i've stayed at a homeless shelter. but u only get to stay there for less than a week, then u have to stay on the streets, then u can get back in.
@Mishu: proposition: try it urself. get a lesson in reality. sell everything u have. see if that would make enough rent, food, expenses $ for urself for even a month - do u own that much expensive stuff? knock on a neighbor's door to see how much $ they'd be willing to give u in return for services. then see if they'd do it on a permanent basis. go to a gas station & see if the owners dont kick u out. collect bottles from the trash & gutters to get ur $3 if u even get that much.
@Mishu: go to a food bank. pretend ur poor & see if u can get enough food on a weekly basis for at least a month. again, u dont know if this woman even qualified for soc. sec. if she didnt earn much $ to begin w/. u have to PAY a minimum amt into it in the 1st place to get $ out of it.
go see how long u can keep up this pace of what u & others would consider a degrading life, esp if employers think 40s & 60s is too old to hire.
i see older ppl on the streets all the time. i live d/t l.a.
@Mish: depends on the circumstances. every case is different. that's how the world is. not everybody acts nor thinks the same. this couple EACH left their own suicide letters. they listed relatives, incldg an adult son. obviously they werent able to get financial or emotional & psychological support from their relatives
YOU cannot speak for their state of mind, nor can i. all we can do is sympathize w/ their suffering that led to this tragedy.
@Mish: in a perfect world where things go as expected or needed, we can arbitrarily make lists like u've done where following certain actions lead to successful conclusions. but experience shows that doesnt happen. we dont know how hard this couple tried nor what they've tried, but apparently both thought this was their only option left, unfortunately.
@Mish: what u & i would try w/ each of our emotional states is not the norm spread across the populace. every person has his own unique story & his own unique mental state developed by it. that's something realistic ppl have to accept. u say every experience makes one stronger. not true as another blogger pointed out to u. real life experiences can destroy ppl too. that's just the reality of life. unfortunately, for these two ppl, their life experiences led them to this final decision.
in the end sadly the bank got the last laugh and took it straight to.. well the bank.., and the rest of their family, well, they just get to pay for a funeral and sit there pondering "why?"
I think as times goes on we are only going to see more of this, god only knows how many empty houses are out there now just getting dusty and mildew-ey as they bearing a price tag that most people cant afford anyhow. (god I love the future us young people are going to have to live in...)
Another way out my ass, yeah sure.. Im sure this couple would have loved to be lining up for soup kitchens and sleeping in their cars, that's the "American dream" aint it?
Its sad these people took their lives, but the sad truth is, if they were both en-employed and their house was going into foreclosure, then what really could they do? Because you know they had to have been looking for jobs, no one just intentionally let themselves slide then goes "well time to kill myself"
@drakewingfire I agree, I run into these people everyday. Their life is the junk they own, they dream of being billionaires. When the day comes that shows them that they are at the very bottom of their fantasy, they crack.
Financial terrorits who govern us in this satanic system where scarcity has to be created- are GUILTY! GIFT ECONOMY could save them - FREE WATER, FREE FOOD, FREE LAND, FREE GOLD... to all 7 billion people.
"we don't usually cover suicides" but you should, when its in relation to the big exconomic crisis everyone is part of. Stupid red neck news channels.
Yeah, when you live in a world where you basically need money to solve most of your problems you really have no other way out. People that want to live have their lives taken away everyday and everyone says "oh well shit happens". We live in a world where killing and hate reign supreme, corruption is everyone and people are treated like garbage based on their status and how they look.
I don't blame them for taking their own lives, the world is a godamn shit hole, people are violent by nature.
@loronwilliams Not all just the greedy Rich. but I know what you mean people get treated like there not human. if they don't have a bunch of green pieces of paper in there wallet ( im from American our money's green and white mostly ).......!
@Coelacanth1938 - Never? There is not enough info in this video to decide that no one should be able to take away anyone's home. Jeesh...looks like many Americans want to move to communism. We can all be as equally miserable. God bless this couple. I bet there was another way out.
@ncmc7dixon I was in Eastern Bloc communist countries during the 1970s-1990s. Most of them never treated their people as bad as we do in this Goddamn free market insane asylum.
@PatrioticFront I live in England and have never heard of "government cameras in peoples homes". We have police cameras in town centres. And if you had experienced the indiscriminate drunken violence that goes on (especially at weekends), you would probably consider those cameras to be a good idea.
@Elmoresnooze Search cameras in homes of truant youth of england. It should come right up.
I always hear people justify the police state inch by inch as not so bad.
You dont just wake up in a north korea style police state, it's little by little. If you accept it little by little in the not to distant future thats what it will look like
@PatrioticFront I am a law-abiding citizen and if the cameras assist the police in preventing violent crime and anti-social behaviour then I support their use. I know very few people in my town who haven't experienced or witnessed this kind of senseless violence (beatings and stabbings). And as such, most people support the police in their work. Wanting to live in a safe, non-violent community is not equivalant to condoning a brutally repressive police state.
@Coelacanth1938 Well, you have a point. Under communism a person can't own property, so it would be impossible to lose one's house. I suspect there was a lot more amiss in this Houston couple's life besides the looming foreclosure of their home. God bless them and their family. Freedom and individual responsibility works for me.
@tntrampage1 - You are silly. Caplitalism didn't cause this irrational decision. You think communists don't commit suicide? This is a selfish way to end one's life. Faith could have led them out of this no win situation.
@HUMANTORCH38 The sad part is they are getting something for nothing as they are loaning money that isn't even real nor earned. But when people can't pay back real money they take their homes and then just let these houses rot while the people freeze to death on the outside. We must stop them. NO INCUMBENTS. Both parties are serving the same master.
If there's a God he/she would have sent a meteorite shower right on Wall St., Washington D.C., the Federal Reserve, Big Oil, Massey Energy Co., Haliburton, GW Bush's bed, Dick Cheney's bed, Al Qaeda, and the US Health Insurance companies. But since there isn't a God I guess we'll have to deal with it as best we can. I guess it's survival of the fittest and the law of the jungle. If only my parents didn't send me to Catholic school I would have been a head of the game.
Man, if I was facing foreclosure & I was unemployed, I'd try to get a job doing anything: work at McDonalds or whatever. Do cleaning work. Whatever it takes. If I still couldn't save the house, I'd try to borrow some money from relatives. I don't understand why two adults can't work something out. At least they didn't have to struggle alone. I'm sure at least ONE of their relatives would've helped them. I'd have a garage sale & get a cheap ass apt. & start over again.
@MishuTaste lol, it's not that easy. Places like McDonalds are more interested in hiring younger people such as teens. It's hard to get a job, and with so little pay from places like that, it's not enough. You can't always count on your relatives. Sure they might let you borrow some money, but you'll want more and more and you wont be able to pay them back. Sound familar?^ My Brother works in any job he can get, he never says no to a job and its still not enough for him, he's now losing his home
It's all about individual tolerences. A guy in the year above me at Uni hung himself over a £450 credit card debt. I wracked up ten times that and never lost the smile from my face.
I don't know the circumstances of the couple, but maybe they WERE working several jobs and that still wasn't enough. Mayber they were old and the idea of starting over again in a one room apartment was too soul destroying.
Maybe nothing could make you take your own life, or maybe something could.
@AnonEyeMouse When I was a teenager, I wanted to kill myself several times. And I tried to. I felt like I couldn't handle the problems of my life. And, at the time, I had no debt & no bills. I had my own car & my parents paid for college. I would not think about killing myself if I was in that situation right now!!! But my point is: my life experiences made me stronger. This couple, w/ their combined years of wisdom & experience, should've tried harder to figure out a way to survive.
Experience doesn't always make you stronger, those broken by post-traumatic stress disorder are evidence of that, and age is no guarantee of wisdom. It could well be that their long years together having come, in there eyes, to nothing was more than they could bare.
You can't make blanket statements about other peoples lives.
A common practice in Bush country and wherever a pound of flesh is the penalty for a loan default. We are literally being driven to the grave by moneylenders like the ones Obama bailed out with public money. BAILOUTS FOR VICTIMS NOT VICTIMIZERS
Tragic. There should be a memorandum stopping all foreclosures until we are out of this national tragedy. It's cruel for the banks to make their customers homeless after they've robbed the people of this nation blind.
For every personal tradegy due to the financial crisis, caused by GS the Fed or any involvement by any other bank should be payed in kind by a banker.
capitalism is so great. I wish these morons would go to Western Europe and see that socialism isn't so bad. bunch of teabagging morons in this country. Free-DUMB!
at least they don't have to deal with the nonsense rat race anymore... life is overrated when you really think about it... for billions of people death is a relief... it's 2010 and we collectively still don't give a shit about each other... i don't know why people keep having kids..
You cannot redo yourself at 60. Fuck capitalism! Fuck the system! It ain't human. It has nothing to do with our everyday lives except giving us stress, envy or guilt.
the bank must be ecstatic that it doesn't have to bother to evict, just paint over the walls and resell it. yeah, capitalism rocks. good job, banks. phil gramm lives near by, he should drive over wearing a cowboy hat and smile.
Did you know that an average of 18 soldiers commit suicide Per day in Afghanistan?. They would rather take there own life then be used to murder civilians.
Teen age suicide is at record highs, because they have loosed hope.
I have no idea what this couple was facing but had they had someone to help them, talk to them about other options, give them other ideas on how to weather the storm or walk away and start over, this could have been avoided. Don't turn a deaf ear to anyone who is expressing concern about their home situation. Brain storm with them, think about how it would be much easier for if this was you, to have someone on your side.
@andruh99 Lendingtree is letting people switch out there high interest morgue for a fixed low interest 30 year one. under 5% I believe so there putting people before profit........!
This is what Capitalism is driving people to. If the government had proper control of the economy this wouldn't happen, have ownership (proper ownership) of all the banks, nationalise all services like transport, energy, telecoms so the employees of these companies have jobs and also the services are carried out for THE PEOPLE and not the Shareholders, but thats too radical for Obama and Cameron (new British PM)
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LFurfari 4 months ago
this is so sad. to be that desperate.
xgothxbarbiex 5 months ago
I guess they were not too " big to fail"
EdugeBDroN 5 months ago
Goldman Sachs farts in America's general direction.
BlueStateChronicle 8 months ago
most of all homes are on IOU
sha370z 8 months ago
Thank you for sharing mmflint
saijai587 9 months ago
You should not suiside. Every problems have exit way.
liang8231 9 months ago
Foreclosure is very bad news for everyone
jamecolte 9 months ago
hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahah!!!
navyseal100 9 months ago
damn basic human needs shelter and food its ashame that a person has to go through so much just to have basic needs between taxes and loan rates its gonna be tough for the younger generation when uncle sam gives all the jobs to forighners and dont wanna pay yea shit if you do get a job
redbulljustice99 9 months ago
It's baffling why they went to so much effort. A sad plead for help.
lddcreepykid 1 year ago
Yes, foreclosure IS torture, especially with young children involved - and if hadn't been for the kids, I would be be 6 feet under by now or dust in the wind.
Where? Alaska When? 1984 Why? Oil recession. Thousands lost their homes only to be resold by the banks for pennies on the dollar.
Like lawyers, bankers should be terminated. People lived without them for centuries. Let's start all over without them. Oh, throw in the politicians too. Sarah Palin can go fuck herself.
JoJo1955 1 year ago
Bullshit. Don't you think these people prayed desperately with tears in there eyes! Where was god when this kind lady needed him most? Where was god to stop the scamming bankers and lenders from perpetuating this fraud? WHERE WAS GOD!? Where was the mercy and the Justice? The fact is there is no god and if there is he doesn't give a damn. They did what was best for their lives, the one decision they alone had control over and I do not ridicule them for their actions. It's all about dignity.
evilfreethinker 1 year ago
@evilfreethinker I couldn't agree with you more. This world cares nothing about the dignity of humans......
VikingLady219 7 months ago
That's horrible. Foreclosure is VERY stressful. I know, I went through it 7 years ago. It's hard to think of the future when you can build your finances up again and possible get another house with better terms... we did.
ScaperSteph 1 year ago
America needs another Civil War, right now...!
Save yourself kill a banker...!
tehuan1 1 year ago
If you do not have any money in this country you are dead. the torture of not having money is very severe. When you work hard your whole life and this gets handed to you and you loose everything you worked for your whole life and it gets taken away and you are faced with being a burden on other people just to survive then what? These people paid taxes their whole lives and this is what they got!
convertvettejff 1 year ago 2
@YragQtip you too.. becuase you speel you're wrong.
HAHA XD
KhyronDesintegrado 1 year ago
@YragQtip: ur right. MishuTaste obviously has never been out of work for an extended time, nor suffered great depression or great hopelessness. he's never had to beg for $ on the streets or ask his neighbors to help him out. he's never had to sell everything he's owned, nor stayed at homeless shelters, or been thought of as too old to hire, etc.
rumpole33 1 year ago
Survey: if your parents were about to lose their house to a foreclosure, would you NOT give them money and let them be homeless?
MishuTaste 1 year ago
@Mishu: if ur children had enough $ to make TWO mortgages, then that's one thing. but u must live in a higher inc. level if ppl in ur world can afford to do that.
rumpole33 1 year ago
@YragQtip sitll, 2 or 5 years is good.
KhyronDesintegrado 1 year ago
@Khyron: what country do u live in that u get unemploymt for 2 to 5 yrs? oh lord. can we all live there? cuz i know u cant get that kind of $ here in the U.S.
rumpole33 1 year ago
@rumpole33 .. my clients!..
one of them is getting $900 everymonth for 5 years she already use 3 of those years.
She shows me her paper work because she can speak English, so I can actually see how much she gets pay and from where.
KhyronDesintegrado 1 year ago
@Khyron: then she's not getting unemploymt but prolly SSI. articles(dot)moneycentral.msn(dot)com/SmartSpending/blog/page. aspx? post =1690318: In normal times, benefits are funded by a tax on employers in all but a handful of states. They normally last for 26 weeks. While collecting, you do have to look for “suitable” work -- generally your previous occupation.The amount of the weekly benefit differs by state, but on average is 36% of an average wage, the National Employment Law Project says.
rumpole33 1 year ago
@Khyr:continued...In deep recessions, it’s not unusual for unemployment benefits to be extended temporarily. About 11.4 million Americans are now receiving benefits, about half for more than six months, according to The Washington Post. They're available for nearly two years in the states with the highest unemployment rates. Some people have been getting unemployment benefits for so long -- they've been extended to up to 99 weeks in some hard-hit locations...
rumpole33 1 year ago
@khyr: CA's EDD: 18 months is the current claim length as of 1/1/09 due to extensions. your claim balance may run out sooner however, if you are receiving the maximum weekly benefit of $450 plus the $25 emergency stimulus amount. There have been 3 extensions, the latest extension of 20 weeks has not yet gone into effect
rumpole33 1 year ago
@YragQtip If I am not mistaking they give unemployment for 2 or 5 years
...
I guess that is enough to get a job
KhyronDesintegrado 1 year ago
@Khyron: u have to be fired from ur job & your former workplace has to admit u were fired, which some wont. unemployment doesnt go for 2-5 yrs & it doesnt cover most of ur lost wages. idk about these older ppl's job status or how many yrs they were unemployed so that they couldnt file for unemploymt anyways. but look around, most of the places ppl shop or eat at only hire young ppl.
rumpole33 1 year ago
@rumpole33 .. well... yes that is true!
the person that is getting free money for 5 years has 3 kids and a little bit of mental retardation(but almost nothing),,,
KhyronDesintegrado 1 year ago
@Khyr: if he/she has kids, then the kids are getting benefits that ARENT part of the unemploymt benefits. unemplymt benefits wouldnt be given to children. disabled ppl get disability benefits, esp. children get extra care & coverage.
rumpole33 1 year ago
@YragQtip Two adults should be able to put their heads together and figure out a way to earn income. Losing a house isn't the end of the world. The lady was probably a few years away from collecting Social Security. They could sell their furniture, beg for money, get a cheap ass apartment and possibly get temporary jobs through an employment agency. Or live w/ relatives & work. It's embarrassing, but it's not impossible to survive that way. Your relatives don't want you to die. They'll help.
MishuTaste 1 year ago
@Mishu: ur assuming they had family that would help them; personal property to sell; $ to afford a cheap apt; temporary jobs given to older folks; enough $ gotten from begging; etc. idk where u live, but here in los angeles, homeless older ppl, even those begging in the streets, dont get enough to move into those so-called cheap apts, which here, costs quite a bit. they have relatives who couldnt care less. i know. i tried to help one older guy who had about 11 siblings, not one of them cared.
rumpole33 1 year ago
@rumpole33 Yes, there are no cheap apartments in Los Angeles. I lived there. But this couple is in Texas. I don't see how suicide is the best option for them. If an illegal alien is able to get a job and get government aid w/o a social security number, think about how much an American citizen can do! This couple had to have some kind of talent, otherwise they wouldn't be able to live in a house. Texas is affordable. A guy in his 40s can get a job doing SOMETHING. A job + social security checks.
MishuTaste 1 year ago
@Mishu: even in texas, u'd need $ to have an apt. how many older illegals do u see w/ jobs? younger ppl, illegal or not, is the only sector ppl will mostly hire from, regardless of what industry. if u'd really lived in l.a., then u'd know there are plenty of americans living on the streets- so ur pollyanna idea of what americans can do goes only so far in the real world. the house was probably bought by the father or the woman's former husband. even TX has lack of jobs. u cant get cks at 40.
rumpole33 1 year ago
@Mishu: not everybody in his 40s, 50s, 60s can get a job, regardless of where u live. that's why there's poverty in every state. again, the woman might not have been qualified for soc. sec, even if she reached the qualified age. i dont think u know much about the paymt tiers & the qualifications to receive $ if at all. if she was mostly a housewife, then she's not going to get any $. if she didnt pay into it enough to earn the credits to get paymts even w/ a job, then she's still not getting it
rumpole33 1 year ago
@Mishu: soc. security starts at $600-something. doesnt cover much for rent, let alone other expenses like food, ins., meds, utilities, toiletries, etc. also, if u apply at 60-something, u only get a bit of ur full soc. sec.. u have to be in ur 70s now (right?) to get the full amt w/o applying for premature paymts. that's assuming the woman worked enough out of the home to have put enough into the soc. sec. fund. if not, then she wont qualify for it no matter what age she is.
rumpole33 1 year ago
@YragQtip I've experienced unemployment many times. I've buried my pride & lived w/ relatives while working my way out of that situation. It's highly embarrassing, but it's better than giving up. I am not a mean person and I have sympathy for people who are faced w/ a foreclosure. But this couple had more material wealth than 50% of humanity. There are millions of people living in shacks in Third World nations. If they can handle that kind of stress, why can't we Americans handle it?
MishuTaste 1 year ago
@Mishu: we're not in a 3rd world country that has no property tax, utility bills, loitering laws, etc on 'shacks.' we cant live that way, cuz our system is set up differently. i see 'shacks' all the time here in los angeles, esp by the freeways by the homeless trying to live in tents under the bridges. they get shoved out by the cops, raped, killed by non-homeless ppl looking for murderous fun, etc. there was a recent death in my memory of a homeless guy set on fire by a non-homeless jerk.
rumpole33 1 year ago
Take back the land!
TainaAtheist1 1 year ago
when is kill a C.E.O. day again?
itsme48423 1 year ago
@itsme48423
Sometimes cops can be pitifully insensitive to the plight of others . . . I am a victim of this depression. I cried for six months after I lost my home and sought help. I got none. So, today, a homeowner once-upon-a-time for 30 years, understand completely why this couple chose their hopeless fate. I believe that this will continue to happen with increasing frequency until everyone who lost their home is compensated.
TainaAtheist1 1 year ago
... I would sell everything I had and then go homeless, and walk to every state, then to other contries, while collecting money from the government..
KhyronDesintegrado 1 year ago
@Khyron: easier said than done. it always is... just ask any homeless person...
rumpole33 1 year ago
@rumpole33 ... I see a homeless person every single day he is my friend .. what do you want me to ask him?..
I know for a fact that he is being getting $900 everymonth i dont know for how long.
I know this because i take him to food 4 less everyweek.
KhyronDesintegrado 1 year ago
@Khyron: yes, ask him if it's SSI.
rumpole33 1 year ago
@rumpole33 ok, I will
KhyronDesintegrado 1 year ago
I would do this: have a garage sale. Sell everything! Try to borrow money from my relatives. Get signed up w/ employment agencies. I'd knock on neighbor's doors and offer to clean up their houses for money. I'd go to the gas station and pump gas & wash windows for money. I'd collect bottles & cans & take that to the recycling center for money. I'd go to food banks. I'd get a cheap ass apartment. The woman was in her 60s. Couldn't she wait a few years to collect Social Security?!!
MishuTaste 1 year ago
@Mishu: when ppl cant even afford mortgage, their not liable to have property worth much $. again, employmt agencies only work if there are employers who want older ppl -many dont. i've seen ppl try to offer their svcs door to door, but that really didnt work out since ppl dont want to pay for something they can do for free themselves, esp. nowadays. u'd get chased out by cops if u go on private property like gas stations cuz they'll say ur harassing them. that's why u dont see much of them here
rumpole33 1 year ago
@Mishu: ppl do collect bottles, but u have to be 1st of many, since there's so many others doing the same thing. & if ur lucky to get one bag, here in ca, that's only $3. food banks are far & few in between. u have to buy bus passes just to get there, then what's given out isnt enough, since there's less donors nowadays. i've worked at a food bank. maybe she couldnt wait cuz it was SEVERAL yrs away, but then again, she'd have had to earn enough credit to get any paymts at all.
rumpole33 1 year ago
@Mishu: it's always easy to say you'd do this or that, when u've never had to be that poor where u've had to beg on the streets, like ppl i know personally. cops keep giving tickets to the homeless just to harass them out of the city. how can u pay up if ur benefits are deducted in order to pay the fines, late fees, & interest? it's a vicious cycle. i've stayed at a homeless shelter. but u only get to stay there for less than a week, then u have to stay on the streets, then u can get back in.
rumpole33 1 year ago
@Mishu: proposition: try it urself. get a lesson in reality. sell everything u have. see if that would make enough rent, food, expenses $ for urself for even a month - do u own that much expensive stuff? knock on a neighbor's door to see how much $ they'd be willing to give u in return for services. then see if they'd do it on a permanent basis. go to a gas station & see if the owners dont kick u out. collect bottles from the trash & gutters to get ur $3 if u even get that much.
rumpole33 1 year ago
@Mishu: go to a food bank. pretend ur poor & see if u can get enough food on a weekly basis for at least a month. again, u dont know if this woman even qualified for soc. sec. if she didnt earn much $ to begin w/. u have to PAY a minimum amt into it in the 1st place to get $ out of it.
go see how long u can keep up this pace of what u & others would consider a degrading life, esp if employers think 40s & 60s is too old to hire.
i see older ppl on the streets all the time. i live d/t l.a.
rumpole33 1 year ago
@rumpole33 If you were a 40 year old, unemployed man who's about to lose his house to a bank for lack of payments. What would you do? Kill yourself?
MishuTaste 1 year ago
@Mish: depends on the circumstances. every case is different. that's how the world is. not everybody acts nor thinks the same. this couple EACH left their own suicide letters. they listed relatives, incldg an adult son. obviously they werent able to get financial or emotional & psychological support from their relatives
YOU cannot speak for their state of mind, nor can i. all we can do is sympathize w/ their suffering that led to this tragedy.
rumpole33 1 year ago
@Mish: in a perfect world where things go as expected or needed, we can arbitrarily make lists like u've done where following certain actions lead to successful conclusions. but experience shows that doesnt happen. we dont know how hard this couple tried nor what they've tried, but apparently both thought this was their only option left, unfortunately.
rumpole33 1 year ago
i should say rather that that doesnt ALWAYS happen.
rumpole33 1 year ago
@Mish: what u & i would try w/ each of our emotional states is not the norm spread across the populace. every person has his own unique story & his own unique mental state developed by it. that's something realistic ppl have to accept. u say every experience makes one stronger. not true as another blogger pointed out to u. real life experiences can destroy ppl too. that's just the reality of life. unfortunately, for these two ppl, their life experiences led them to this final decision.
rumpole33 1 year ago
Good, two less idiots out there ruining shit for the smart responsible ones.
777danzig 1 year ago
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SHAME ON BARAK OBAMA for not speaking out on behalf of the homeless millions in our country.
SHAME ON BARAK OBAMA.for selling out to the insurance lobby on Healthcare for the uninsured millions in our country.
SHAME ON BARAK OBAMA for betraying the trust of the poor millions who put him into office in the first place.
SHAME ON US.
shellgamer 1 year ago 12
They should have just burned the house down or at least made the house impossible to sell.
wingnut4427 1 year ago 2
The low-life-sleazy-scum-sucking-killer BANKERS strike again ! Thank you Barry for our Bail-Out !!
MARIAUTUBE 1 year ago 4
SHAME ON BARAK OBAMA for not speaking out on behalf of the homeless millions in our country.
shellgamer 1 year ago 2
in the end sadly the bank got the last laugh and took it straight to.. well the bank.., and the rest of their family, well, they just get to pay for a funeral and sit there pondering "why?"
I think as times goes on we are only going to see more of this, god only knows how many empty houses are out there now just getting dusty and mildew-ey as they bearing a price tag that most people cant afford anyhow. (god I love the future us young people are going to have to live in...)
drakewingfire 1 year ago 3
Another way out my ass, yeah sure.. Im sure this couple would have loved to be lining up for soup kitchens and sleeping in their cars, that's the "American dream" aint it?
Its sad these people took their lives, but the sad truth is, if they were both en-employed and their house was going into foreclosure, then what really could they do? Because you know they had to have been looking for jobs, no one just intentionally let themselves slide then goes "well time to kill myself"
drakewingfire 1 year ago 2
@drakewingfire I agree, I run into these people everyday. Their life is the junk they own, they dream of being billionaires. When the day comes that shows them that they are at the very bottom of their fantasy, they crack.
PatrioticFront 1 year ago
WOW! That is so sad.
33ItHappens 1 year ago
btw. . .
How's that "Hopey, Changey" thang workin' out for ya'?
tD
ezbiskit 1 year ago 2
Dont we all just love & appreciate the wide array of events that are the direct result of Cloward & Pivens strategy of orchestrated crisis?
Our American Pinochet will crush the spine, snap the neck & scramble the brain of the U.S. marxist machine.
tD
ezbiskit 1 year ago
Financial terrorits who govern us in this satanic system where scarcity has to be created- are GUILTY! GIFT ECONOMY could save them - FREE WATER, FREE FOOD, FREE LAND, FREE GOLD... to all 7 billion people.
gifteconomy12 1 year ago 4
"we don't usually cover suicides" but you should, when its in relation to the big exconomic crisis everyone is part of. Stupid red neck news channels.
krazykizza 1 year ago 3
Yeah, when you live in a world where you basically need money to solve most of your problems you really have no other way out. People that want to live have their lives taken away everyday and everyone says "oh well shit happens". We live in a world where killing and hate reign supreme, corruption is everyone and people are treated like garbage based on their status and how they look.
I don't blame them for taking their own lives, the world is a godamn shit hole, people are violent by nature.
loronwilliams 1 year ago 16
@loronwilliams Not all just the greedy Rich. but I know what you mean people get treated like there not human. if they don't have a bunch of green pieces of paper in there wallet ( im from American our money's green and white mostly ).......!
METALMAN4Wii 1 year ago
Unbelievable! This is just only a small piece of the horrors that the foreclosure tidal wave is producing. Absolutely tragic beyond belief!
distantsiren 1 year ago 5
That house will sell very VERY cheap now because of all the work that's going to have to be done to it to get the smell out of it!
scorpionkings 1 year ago 2
tragic
kotk05 1 year ago 3
This seems more a domestic violence story than a cautionary tale of "the rich don't give a shit about us". Don't lose sight of the ball Michael.
wynn1960 1 year ago
Nobody should be able to take away your home.
Coelacanth1938 1 year ago 4
@Coelacanth1938 - Never? There is not enough info in this video to decide that no one should be able to take away anyone's home. Jeesh...looks like many Americans want to move to communism. We can all be as equally miserable. God bless this couple. I bet there was another way out.
ncmc7dixon 1 year ago
@ncmc7dixon I was in Eastern Bloc communist countries during the 1970s-1990s. Most of them never treated their people as bad as we do in this Goddamn free market insane asylum.
Coelacanth1938 1 year ago 2
@Coelacanth1938 don't worry the police state is being set up here to make you feel at home.
Soon every street will have cameras.
And, the big tamale, government cameras in peoples homes; already being done in england, to follow in the US 3 to 4 years.
PatrioticFront 1 year ago
@PatrioticFront I live in England and have never heard of "government cameras in peoples homes". We have police cameras in town centres. And if you had experienced the indiscriminate drunken violence that goes on (especially at weekends), you would probably consider those cameras to be a good idea.
Elmoresnooze 1 year ago
@Elmoresnooze Search cameras in homes of truant youth of england. It should come right up.
I always hear people justify the police state inch by inch as not so bad.
You dont just wake up in a north korea style police state, it's little by little. If you accept it little by little in the not to distant future thats what it will look like
PatrioticFront 1 year ago
@PatrioticFront I am a law-abiding citizen and if the cameras assist the police in preventing violent crime and anti-social behaviour then I support their use. I know very few people in my town who haven't experienced or witnessed this kind of senseless violence (beatings and stabbings). And as such, most people support the police in their work. Wanting to live in a safe, non-violent community is not equivalant to condoning a brutally repressive police state.
Elmoresnooze 1 year ago
@Elmoresnooze as i said, when people give up their freedom they always think it's with good reason.
But, when it's gone, it's gone for good.
PatrioticFront 1 year ago
@Coelacanth1938 Well, you have a point. Under communism a person can't own property, so it would be impossible to lose one's house. I suspect there was a lot more amiss in this Houston couple's life besides the looming foreclosure of their home. God bless them and their family. Freedom and individual responsibility works for me.
ncmc7dixon 1 year ago
@Coelacanth1938 It's not your home until you pay for it
TheCaseBeatz 8 months ago
But still no REAL financial reform. The Elite are killing us and we are standing by while they write this stupid legislation that doesn't protect us.
No Incumbents.
Textynn 1 year ago 3
The Bankers will just harvest their organs and sell em.
ryno99 1 year ago
again screw capitalism and greed and people in general
tntrampage1 1 year ago 7
@tntrampage1 - You are silly. Caplitalism didn't cause this irrational decision. You think communists don't commit suicide? This is a selfish way to end one's life. Faith could have led them out of this no win situation.
ncmc7dixon 1 year ago
again, screw the banks
athlon866 1 year ago
Extry, extry, read all about it. Foreclosure via Deceptive Tatics! Houston Texas
Report: #291237.
At ripoffreport com
shellgamer 1 year ago
why the fuck do the banks need houses for??? what are they going to put in their?? MONEY????
HUMANTORCH38 1 year ago 4
@HUMANTORCH38 The sad part is they are getting something for nothing as they are loaning money that isn't even real nor earned. But when people can't pay back real money they take their homes and then just let these houses rot while the people freeze to death on the outside. We must stop them. NO INCUMBENTS. Both parties are serving the same master.
Textynn 1 year ago 4
This was not the "change" many Americans voted for....
dems and GOP - identical!
zeusvalentine 1 year ago
@zeusvalentine
This isn't change at all.
AnonEyeMouse 1 year ago 3
@AnonEyeMouse Thank you
tipofmytongue1024 1 year ago
If there's a God he/she would have sent a meteorite shower right on Wall St., Washington D.C., the Federal Reserve, Big Oil, Massey Energy Co., Haliburton, GW Bush's bed, Dick Cheney's bed, Al Qaeda, and the US Health Insurance companies. But since there isn't a God I guess we'll have to deal with it as best we can. I guess it's survival of the fittest and the law of the jungle. If only my parents didn't send me to Catholic school I would have been a head of the game.
pongman 1 year ago
@pongman wait till 2012
you will get your meteorites
:-/
pwl1980 1 year ago
@pwl1980 Thanks God.
pongman 1 year ago
Man, if I was facing foreclosure & I was unemployed, I'd try to get a job doing anything: work at McDonalds or whatever. Do cleaning work. Whatever it takes. If I still couldn't save the house, I'd try to borrow some money from relatives. I don't understand why two adults can't work something out. At least they didn't have to struggle alone. I'm sure at least ONE of their relatives would've helped them. I'd have a garage sale & get a cheap ass apt. & start over again.
MishuTaste 1 year ago
@MishuTaste lol, it's not that easy. Places like McDonalds are more interested in hiring younger people such as teens. It's hard to get a job, and with so little pay from places like that, it's not enough. You can't always count on your relatives. Sure they might let you borrow some money, but you'll want more and more and you wont be able to pay them back. Sound familar?^ My Brother works in any job he can get, he never says no to a job and its still not enough for him, he's now losing his home
huganemi 1 year ago
@MishuTaste
It's all about individual tolerences. A guy in the year above me at Uni hung himself over a £450 credit card debt. I wracked up ten times that and never lost the smile from my face.
I don't know the circumstances of the couple, but maybe they WERE working several jobs and that still wasn't enough. Mayber they were old and the idea of starting over again in a one room apartment was too soul destroying.
Maybe nothing could make you take your own life, or maybe something could.
AnonEyeMouse 1 year ago 2
@AnonEyeMouse When I was a teenager, I wanted to kill myself several times. And I tried to. I felt like I couldn't handle the problems of my life. And, at the time, I had no debt & no bills. I had my own car & my parents paid for college. I would not think about killing myself if I was in that situation right now!!! But my point is: my life experiences made me stronger. This couple, w/ their combined years of wisdom & experience, should've tried harder to figure out a way to survive.
MishuTaste 1 year ago
@MishuTaste ... so you even fail at killing yourself?
KhyronDesintegrado 1 year ago
@KhyronDesintegrado YES! Do you think that's a bad thing?
MishuTaste 1 year ago
@MishuTaste ... try and try until you succeed
KhyronDesintegrado 1 year ago
@KhyronDesintegrado Thanks for the advice. I'll drive my car off a cliff today!
MishuTaste 1 year ago
@MishuTaste
Experience doesn't always make you stronger, those broken by post-traumatic stress disorder are evidence of that, and age is no guarantee of wisdom. It could well be that their long years together having come, in there eyes, to nothing was more than they could bare.
You can't make blanket statements about other peoples lives.
AnonEyeMouse 1 year ago
There was no other way out.
michaelispan 1 year ago 5
A common practice in Bush country and wherever a pound of flesh is the penalty for a loan default. We are literally being driven to the grave by moneylenders like the ones Obama bailed out with public money. BAILOUTS FOR VICTIMS NOT VICTIMIZERS
shellgamer 1 year ago 4
omg a month
skyler0248 1 year ago
They should have killed the assholes declaring the foreclosures and do everyone a favour before killing themselves.
mycatisamoron 1 year ago 6
another way out?... you mean on the streets?
itubeutude 1 year ago 3
@itubeutude another way out.... out the door!!!
DrMu5tCh3at2W1n 1 year ago
Something to read and share with everyone under the threat of foreclosure...
"Only God can create something out of nothing..."
lawlibrary. state. mn. us/CreditRiver/ 1968-12-09judgmentanddecree. pdf
statesRcountries 1 year ago
Tragic. There should be a memorandum stopping all foreclosures until we are out of this national tragedy. It's cruel for the banks to make their customers homeless after they've robbed the people of this nation blind.
WellIAMScottish 1 year ago 4
For every personal tradegy due to the financial crisis, caused by GS the Fed or any involvement by any other bank should be payed in kind by a banker.
We will need alot of rope!!!
TheReallitycheck 1 year ago 3
no more small businesses because anti-trust hasn't been regulated and the libertarians are blaming Obama for not responding to a PRIVATE disaster.
LouieArrighi 1 year ago
free-DUMB is ONLY for the wealthy elite. wake up MORONS and RON PAUL DUMMIES
LouieArrighi 1 year ago 2
capitalism is so great. I wish these morons would go to Western Europe and see that socialism isn't so bad. bunch of teabagging morons in this country. Free-DUMB!
LouieArrighi 1 year ago 2
well done greedy banks ..
Brommes 1 year ago 3
at least they don't have to deal with the nonsense rat race anymore... life is overrated when you really think about it... for billions of people death is a relief... it's 2010 and we collectively still don't give a shit about each other... i don't know why people keep having kids..
Th3Wab3 1 year ago 4
if you could still talk to them, what would you say? 'being homeless ain't all bad.'? or 'having a job and a home is over-rated anyways?'
ho2cultcha 1 year ago
Information is key to getting out of debt!! YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE = MONEY + FREEDOM Please watch
watch?v=tlab_2oJPok
fireriver29 1 year ago
You cannot redo yourself at 60. Fuck capitalism! Fuck the system! It ain't human. It has nothing to do with our everyday lives except giving us stress, envy or guilt.
KlipKultur4 1 year ago 5
Abolish Capitalism!
cary123 1 year ago 3
what the fuck! k now this shit has gone to far, we need the government in those bank's asses
Jadeutschland001 1 year ago
Its not easy to get a job nowadays and age doesnt make it better when the company think it is too much.
globe255 1 year ago
the bank must be ecstatic that it doesn't have to bother to evict, just paint over the walls and resell it. yeah, capitalism rocks. good job, banks. phil gramm lives near by, he should drive over wearing a cowboy hat and smile.
KataVideo 1 year ago 4
addicted to money. I mean that broadly. sucks.
10kcampfire 1 year ago
This is very sad.
guatepower 1 year ago 2
Another way-out? Dont keep it secret Millions
are in this position.
Somebody needs a reality check.
Did you know that an average of 18 soldiers commit suicide Per day in Afghanistan?. They would rather take there own life then be used to murder civilians.
Teen age suicide is at record highs, because they have loosed hope.
StigmataBOB1 1 year ago 4
I have no idea what this couple was facing but had they had someone to help them, talk to them about other options, give them other ideas on how to weather the storm or walk away and start over, this could have been avoided. Don't turn a deaf ear to anyone who is expressing concern about their home situation. Brain storm with them, think about how it would be much easier for if this was you, to have someone on your side.
Boomer1949 1 year ago
This is what they want you to do. Give up and die. Those poor people just gave up in despair.
sagemakaiserxl 1 year ago 6
what is the other way out?
dweber66 1 year ago
People always say that communism is a terrible, unamerican thing. While I look up and see their puppet strings.
Eekolu 1 year ago 4
@Eekolu Have you seen public housing?
dukee155 1 year ago
@dukee155 I do not believe so.
Eekolu 1 year ago
@Eekolu What about HUD developments, do you see how crappy the housing developments look in the Bronx.
dukee155 1 year ago
Wow - it`s beginning to get bad out there when this sort of thing is happening ; (
Just declare bankcruptcy, get the creditors off your back & start over again.
kcirdrab 1 year ago
People before profits!
(repeat)
andruh99 1 year ago 17
@andruh99 agree :(
ExcellentChild 1 year ago
@andruh99 Lendingtree is letting people switch out there high interest morgue for a fixed low interest 30 year one. under 5% I believe so there putting people before profit........!
METALMAN4Wii 1 year ago
@METALMAN4Wii Awesome, great, kudos to them! But Lendingtree is a minor aberration, and not the norm. :(
andruh99 1 year ago
This is what Capitalism is driving people to. If the government had proper control of the economy this wouldn't happen, have ownership (proper ownership) of all the banks, nationalise all services like transport, energy, telecoms so the employees of these companies have jobs and also the services are carried out for THE PEOPLE and not the Shareholders, but thats too radical for Obama and Cameron (new British PM)
euanrocks 1 year ago 3
@euanrocks local government controls transport EX:MTA.
dukee155 1 year ago