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  • Didn't the pilgrims go there because they wanted to rule a new place based on their religion? So that theory he has is bollocks but I do love ya Stephen :)

  • @judgejudyslover The pilgrims were religious rejects from Britain yes, but they didn't found the USA. The founders were coastal traders, generally normal people. As you'd expect from a load of christian morons, the original pilgrims fared disastrously badly when they arrived.

  • Why is he sucking up to america so much? :/

  • @N64isgreat Because he likes it. Surprise.

  • nationality is nothing...its all about ethnicity

  • Probably the only video where I disagree with Stephen.

  • I couldn't love these two any more than I do right now. america <3

  • What does he do in Hollywood, hang around the set of House?

  • @youngian The set of Bones maybe? Or Peter Jackson's office?

  • thanks for posting this. I really like Stephen. I don't always agree with him but I respect him none the less. I really like Craig too and it's nice to hear him just have a conversation (w/o cussing) where he is just his charming self.

  • Think you need to look up "Liverpool slavery" on Google. They didn't establish the slave trade, but they showed the world just how profitable it could be. They shipped in their first slaves in 1700, and by the end of the 18th century 40% of the world's slave activity was accounted for by slave ships that came out of Liverpool.

  • talk about hamming it up for the audience! i've just come from a QI video clip talking about religious nuts thinking the rapture was coming in the eighties, throwing themselves off buildings etc. Stephen and the panel all agreed; only in america.

  • Brit and a Scotsman. lol

  • @WorldOfLove2 You can't get a Brit & a Scotsman, they're one & the same thing. Fry is English & Ferguson is a Scot or should I say, was a Scot, he's now an American citizen as pointed out in the video.

  • @drage1862 you can have more than one nationality, like my grandmother is Korean and American, and I am American and Canadian. i mean unless you are talking culturally but i truly don't think anyone could completely lose a culture.

  • @sillyjontag321 I wouldn't disagree with you on that fact, I was merely pointing out that a Scotsman is a Brit so is an Englishman & so is a Welshman, they're all British !

    My reply was to a person who said "a Brit & a Scot" when referring to Fry & Ferguson respectively. Many Americans often wrongly refer to the whole of Britain as England perhaps because it is the largest country by area.

  • @drage1862 yeah your right about that too, most Americans don't know the difference. Americas educational system is kind of to blame too. we only have to take a civics/government class 9th grade, US studies part 1 10th grade, US studies part 2 11th grade and we don't have to take anything 12th grade. of course we do have world history courses but those are colleges classes. I'm not saying that we should blame the ed. system but i think world history should be mandatory.

  • @drage1862 You might consider it is the individual who decides how to proclaim his heritage. Mr. Ferguson refers to himself as Scottish, often being very adamant about not appreciating Scotlands forced attachment to England. He has also noted his father's family was from Ireland but since he was born in Scotland--and has the large appendage to prove it--he is Scottish.

    He will at times acknowledge he is European, but I have never heard him declare himself British. So he's not.

  • @TheFred3733 If you knew your history you would know that it was a Scottish King who forced the attachment to England (King James VI Scotland & the I of England) he united the 2 Kingdoms in a Treaty of Union. If a person is patriotic of their heritage, they don't become a citizen of another nation, He's a plastic Scot. I would never take out dual citizenship, I was born solely English & I'll die solely English. Ferguson is a Brit he may not like it, nor do I but the fact remains.

  • @drage1862 1) I do know the history, 2) My point is that what YOU think of Mr. Ferguson's heritage is irrelevant, 3) If you had read his autobiography, "his heart is Scottish, his soul is American"; perhaps he is not quite so narrow minded in his thinking. 4) I suspect what YOU would do is also irrelevant to him, as is to me. 5) I thank you for wanting to die English.

  • @TheFred3733 Oh Please, spare me the ridiculous excuses, Ferguson is the same as all the other patriotic Scots who love Scotland so much they would rather live anywhere else. Connery is a prime example, a member of the SNP who is a tax exile in the Bahamas, ROFL then there's David Coulthard, tax exile in Monaco ROFL.

    Judging by the way I seemed to have touched a nerve about your Idol, I suspect you're a plastic Scot too. Ohhh my ribs ache Hahahahahahahaha :o)

  • @drage1862 Saying I touched a nerve is quite ironic; it is you who seems to vocalize nothing but venom and spite. My point, again, is that whatever one calls oneself is personal and your opinion is only your own. I introduce myself as a Southside Chicago girl which is different than saying I'm from the Northside, but live in Seattle. That has personal meaning to me, as being Scottish and not-British (like you) has to Craig.

    As for idolizing Craig--couldn't be a finer compliment. Thanks.

  • @TheFred3733 You're welcome ! :o)

  • @TheFred3733 if he declares himself scottish then hes declaring himself british, as scotland is part of britain. theres a difference between england and britain

  • @drage1862 He still is a Scot in terms of upbringing and still has British citizenship. He has dual citizenship.

  • @WorldOfLove2 It's Englishman and Scotsman, they are both British...

  • I've wondered that same thing about the European American and I guess Asian American gene pool.

  • I find it odd that when you listen to the most touching statments on the United States... how often they come from foreign born persons. Its not that Yanks don't love their country, Its more like they often don't realize what it is that they love. Objective sentiments like these gives one pause to reflect on what being American really means! Now, the nation certainly has its flaws. But then, don't they all?

  • I think the feud between Britain and American is more of a sibling rivalry. Both countries have their pros and cons and we pick at each other for them.

  • @thesunshinekid09 I see it that way as well.

  • @thesunshinekid09 yeah that's how I've always thought about it too

  • Think it's equally true if an American were to venture into Europe, they too will be in awe of the place...probably

  • @timbor44 American cults, like Seventh-Day Adventists, Mormons, etc., are indeed bulllshit. That doesn't negate the positive aspects of America.

  • @TacticusPrime Knock it off. You know they are established religions and have been long before you were born. Go find another site to practice religious hate (try Bill Maher, he hates all religions, pick a fight there). Neither of these men are haters which is one reason I respect them both so much.

  • @TheFred3733 All religions begin as cults. Christianity began as a cult around Jesus, while he reinterpreted the Jewish religion. Much like the Adventists around William Miller and the Mormons around Joseph Smith. These cults have had their rougher edges worn off over time, but they haven't been worn smooth. They're still a little crazy.

    Islam was a religion long before them; does that mean it somehow has validity? Nope. All religions are stupid and worthy of ridicule.

  • @timbor44 Give me a break, there isn't a sweeping hatred of Americans from the British. I've worked with the British daily for the past decade and it just does not exist. We are strong allies, though I do understand they are still a bit upset about that whole Revolution.

  • @timbor44 No it is not the norm, all you need do is look at the BP oil spill and see how a company 49% owned by Americans got turned in to a blame and hate the Brits to see your greatly exaggerating. Many times on US tv we are portrayed as stuck up or drunks. We do not hate Americans, you are reading in to things that are not there while conveniently ignoring your own countries behaviour.Chill out and realize people on tv do not speak for 65million of us.

  • @antipodeandreason The problem between Britain and America is that we tend to judge each other based on stereotypes (although I suppose that's true with any two nations). There is a very noticeable anti-American sentiment in England--I lived there and experienced it myself. But of course not all Brits share that sentiment, in the same way that not all Americans are bigots. We both have our faults, but England and America will always be strong allies across the Pond.

  • @allamericandude15 I think you will find those people { Anti whoever } everywhere. To say we are as a nation is just not right in any degree. Some people are not smart enough to distinguish between a government and the people and take it out on a tourist. Some people will say that Americans are anti British sometimes. Cooler heads must prevail and we can't let a few set perception. Millions of us holiday in the US and we love stuff from there.

    We were anti G W Bush not Anti American.

  • hah, Fry loves America. Good stuff.

  • founded on such forward thinking as slavery

  • @JD1010101110 umm, every single country in Europe had slavery too, what's your point?

  • @lostalex77

    England never did, in fact the reaffirmation of that fact was one of the reasons for the american war of independence.

  • Australia is the only continent in the world that never had any slavery.

  • @lostalex77

    Yep those Penguin with their slavery in antarctica the bastards!

  • @JD1010101110 don't be pedantic.

  • @lostalex77 Australia began as a prison.  It didn't HAVE slavery, it WAS slavery.

  • @HackCausality They had the stolen generation, which is equally as abhorent.

  • @lostalex77  Except for the forced labor of the convicts. All those debtors... gotta teach 'em a lesson.

  • America used to be a good country until 9/11 and the republicans gained more ground.

  • @1scot4scotland no, it is one country. Thats a fact, not opinion. Scotland is a principality, deal with it.

  • @spiromilhouse I didn't paint any picture of America, you're attacking a straw-man. I was merely pointing some of his hypocrisy, especially given the things he has said about the US in the past. The term "only in America" is not used as one of praise in this day and age, it's used as one of exasperation, almost exclusively by Americans. As for racism, I'm really not sure what your point is about famous black people. It's hardly indicative of anything.

  • @spiromilhouse Like I've said, he's great, but he's just pandering to the audience here. I've seen him on Australian and British shows absolutely ripping the piss out of America and it's absurdities.

  • @spiromilhouse Well, the national British emotion being "embarrassment" is almost comical it's so wide of the truth. Also, he's sugar coating the "only in America" phrase. If anything it refers to ludicrous law suits and/or religious loons in the modern age. It's very rarely anything positive. He also repackages American nationalism and jingoism like it's the result of some superior gene pool, and completely ignores the racism and homophobia that is still endemic in American society today.

  • An Englishman and a Scotsman, don't call them brits they are clearly very different people with a different heritage. Scotland and England are two countries NOT ONE.

  • It's hard for me to picture the impression one would have from only seeing the U.S. in films, tv and news stories. It would be a selective picture of elements which are true but nevertheless not in any sort of context. When I lived in the U.K. I was constantly suprised by the things people thought or asked me more questions about. It's a bit frustrating when I hear generalizations about us which absolutely do NOT apply to me whatsoever, and yet I can see where they would have come from.

  • i want to see stephen on house!

  • Get these two on a UK show and I doubt they would say the same thing. One thing both sides have to get in their heads is that the only thing we share is a language, we ARE different cultures and thats not a bad thing. Second biggest ethnic group in the US ? Germans. Followed by Irish, French , Italians , Hispanics etc Why should they be the same ?

  • @cullyvan lol what a sillly thing to say what do you think the population of britain is if not made up of germans,french,irish,italians, and spanish. you comment makes no sense. as much as america was built on immigration of people so was britain.our earliest ancestors came from spain, then had invasions by the italians,germans,french,scandi­navians. all of which added to our culture as well as the migration of people from across the empire.

  • @kyototakeshi1 I agree, however the overall cultures are different. Its not a racist thing as Im an immigrant myself. peace

  • @cullyvan oh i know it was'nt racist. i just wanted to say the british have a fondness for americans, of all heritage.even though we call each other rotten all the time. its like brothers fighting, we're the older brother who is overshadowed by his sibling, we're proud but still want to impart some of our experience so you dont make the same mistakes we made, trust me, i have travelled the world and america istheonly other country i have felt at home in, why because it is so culturally similar

  • I hear you, having lived in both as well as Benelux and Germany I do see some big cultural differences. The work/life balance is unhealthy in the US, and I'm not keen on what is basically the death of medium/small cities in the US due to the ever sprawling soulless suburbs. The media sucks, its all lowest common denominator thankfully I can still get BBC. BUT on a one to one, most Americans are good people and down to earth. As long they dont believe the hype.

  • @cullyvan actually, germans represent the largest ethnic group in america :D

  • Stephen often talks sense but what he just said is utter bollocks

  • So refreshing to hear nice things being said about this country. To bad that all liberals seem to do is bitch about how bad , mean and evil they think this country is.

  • I think I remember Bono on Conan O'Brien saying something like an American sees a rich guy living on a big house on top of a hill and thinks "Someday that's going to be me" and in Ireland they look up at a guy living in a big house on top of a hill and think "Someday I'm going to get that son of a bitch!"

  • Stephen is a wonderful and highly intelligent man, but his theory on the gene pools of Europe and America is, to use one of his own phrases: complete loose stool water. Yeah, we have no optimists and forward-thinkers anymore in Europe, and there are no puritans, extreme conservatists or religious fanatics in the US... This idea is poorly worded at best, dimwitted at worst. Either way, not something I'd expect from Fry.

  • Stephen is laying it on a bit thick here, I love him but I think he's pandering to the audience. Some of the things he's said about America in the past are positively scathing, and true too.

  • @01000001011100100111 You have a good point, but you have to question whether or not he's pandering to his UK viewers on things like QI when he says these things.

  • @01000001011100100111 you can have conflicting opinions about place. I think he does have a sincere appreciation. I also think 99% of what he had to say in this is complete bull shit. I'm an American. The qualities he just described are polite ways of calling us oblivious and obnoxious

  • @01000001011100100111 Well there's two reasons for that. First is that Stephen Fry, well spoken as he is, is gaining a bit of a reputation as something of a sycophant. Second, sadly, the truth is that most Americans just can't take criticism. Being pandered to really is the 'American way'...I mean just take a look at the entirety of Hollywood. Not all of them, mind you, but I can't think of any other country in the world that's (as a whole) more insecure than the US.

  • @01000001011100100111 Every person has positive and negative views on things. What's he going to do? Follow it up with some quip criticizing Christianity, guns, and fast food? Gee, nobody's heard those before...

  • @01000001011100100111 There wasn't an audience in the studio when he was on.

  • @warriorsfan19 The American audience this was to be broadcast to.

  • @01000001011100100111 because he was laying it on thick for the anti-aMERICAN audiences in britain. He's being honest about America in this interview.

  • @lostalex77 What anti-American audiences in Britain? I mean if believing that makes you feel better you're welcome to, but I think you're being a little bit naive.

  • @01000001011100100111 Because the scathing things Fry says about America isn't necessarily directed at Americans, but the general country as a whole. As separate citizens, we're usually rather smart, but as a collective, well... As my dad says, "The masses are asses."

  • @01000001011100100111 There weren't any audience on that particular late late show.. It was a special..

  • @kennymertzi The TV audience.

  • @01000001011100100111 Haha you're right, so much I was waiting for a complete reverse punchline at the end

  • @01000001011100100111 There was no audience for this episode, except Mr Ferguson, so the feelings shared here are real and honest.

  • @MrUndersolo I never said anything about a live audience. The show was being broadcast on TV to an American audience, and Stephen has a TV show and book to sell.

  • @01000001011100100111 Yeah, but you clearly meant "live audience". Admit your mistake and move on.

  • @yurismir1 I never said anything to suggest that I specifically meant a live audience, because that isn't what I meant. Whether the audience was live or not is completely irrelevant.

  • @01000001011100100111 You can love America and still criticize it :)

  • @01000001011100100111 Only someone who dislikes America could make that comment. Stephen, who you say you love, says some nice things about America, so of course it's bullshit because you dislike America and you "know" that deep down he does too. Utterly pathetic.

  • @satch234 Do you have learning difficulties? I think I made it quite clear that the reason I'm taking his eulogizing with a pinch of salt is because in other interviews, he has slammed the US quite scathingly.

  • @01000001011100100111 I've heard him criticize the US as well, but he hasn't said anything that contradicts something he said here. It's obvious that you dislike the US, and so when someone you like and respect makes statements you disagree with, rather than just accept that he may hold those views, you call it bullshit. So, it's quite clear that you're just insecure and uncomfortable with someone you respect holding different opinions that your own.

  • @satch234 I never called anything bullshit, and I haven't said anything to suggest that I dislike the US. That's just an invention of yours as a means to launch a weak ad hominem attack.

  • @satch234 The fact that he slams the US when there is no incentive to misrepresent his views, and praises the US lavishly when there is suggests that he is doing it because he is on American TV, and has a book to sell. It takes no bias either way to draw that conclusion. To dismiss the theory as coming from 'hate' or 'insecurities' however, would need a degree of bias, the obvious one being an American trying to protect something he wants to believe is true... Oh.

  • @01000001011100100111 Wrong again. I took apart your original assertion logically, that is, that he didn't say anything in this video that contradicts anything he's said in the past. Since that's true, I can only assume that you have deep anti-American biases; I never went ad hominem, I don't even know you, I'm just assuming based on your original post, which reeked of insecurity.

  • @satch234 I think you're confused as to what an insecurity is. What do I have to be insecure about? For the record, I disagree with Stephen on many topics. I have no motive or bias on this subject however, no matter how desperately you try to find one, or failing that - invent one. The American-hating/insecure comments are just bizarre, frankly.

  • @satch234 Also, statements like "I love this country" and "I adore this country" while are not strictly contradictory, do look slightly disingenuous when compared to some of his scathing commentaries on the way the US is run, and some of the cultures he mocks in other interviews. In fact elsewhere he gives the impression that love and adoration are anything but the feelings he has toward the country, when he doesn't have an audience to sell to a book to, that is.

  • @01000001011100100111 not to butt in the middle of a conversation, but it is possible to love and adore a country, and still criticize it considerably. Not that my own experience really quantifies anything, but the country I both praise and criticize the most is the US. I find it nearly impossible to only praise a country or to only criticize a country, both of which would be based out of ignorance.

  • @satch234 There are Americans who criticize the U.S.

  • For someone so widely revered for his intellect, he does talk an awful lot of shit.

    Also apologies to Scroobius Pip for disobeying his commandment.

  • I like Europe, I actually prefer it to the US, even though I like america as well of course. But there's something about Europe <3

  • @alexhamster1134 Scotts aren't racist, and it's the Irish who are stereotypically alcoholic.

  • @miscellaneousness hey nothing wrong with being racist and alcoholic :D dont fight it...

  • Let's risk it! Well yeah, we Americans risk a lot of things. Some of them good, like declaring independence and some of them not good like off-shore oil drilling.

  • Yes, we are genetically predisposed to try crazy things, like invading Iraq or carpet bombing Cambodian children.

  • @willpen14 Scotland is on the island of Great Britain. So Craig Ferguson is both Scottish and British. Use wikipedia or something dude

  • @perspicaciouscritic If the majority of Scots wanted independence they'd have it. The truth is the majority don't.

  • @01000001011100100111 The majority of Scots do wan't independance, we are just to cowardly to actually do anything about it. I don't like Americans, But at least they had the balls to fight for their freedom and for that I give them respect. As Mr. Fry says, all the people willing to take a chance, left on boats to the Americas, all we have left are the people who won't.

  • @genestealerbroodlord You don't have to fight for it though, all you need to do is vote. If there were enough support for a referendum on it then the Scottish National Party would make sure there was one, the truth is all this talk about independence is more about pride than anything else. I think most Scots know that their country would probably go the way of Ireland if they did leave the union. And in fact, Scotland has more autonomy and disproportionate power than England already.

  • @01000001011100100111 I would agree, I think it is alot to do with pride and to compare us to Ireland is a good one, Both in a positive and negative way. Ireland is a double edged sword though, as it has both improved since independance and in some areas, gotten worse, But that's what being independant is. They are free to do that. I do agree that the current system is rather unfair on the English and that should be addressed.

  • @genestealerbroodlord "I don't like Americans." Yeah, because you've met every single one of them. What country did YouTube come from?

  • @PlannedObsolescence Please don't just take a small part of my post and jump on me for it. I continued after those words as follows. I don't like Americans, But at least they had the balls to fight for their freedom and for that I give them respect. As Mr. Fry says, all the people willing to take a chance, left on boats to the Americas, all we have left are the people who won't. - I don't like Americans, But I give them credit for not being cowards like us Scots.

  • @genestealerbroodlord Yes, I know. But it never ceases to puzzle me when people say/write things such as, "I don't like (insert race or nationality)." That will never make sense to me. I guess they're just ignorant. I judge someone for who that person is based on his or her individual character, not his or her origins.

  • @PlannedObsolescence That's true. Sorry for coming across badly. I didn't mean Americans or Scots, as in individual people. I ment more in the national character. Americans are a nation that acts almost like a know it all teenager, Scotland as a grumpy old man who complains alot, but is too scared to do anything about it. Scotland has to grow a pair and America will be the great nation it thinks it is right now one day, when it grows up. I don't like know it all teenagers :p

  • @willpen14 I think what you meant was that Craig Ferguson is Scottish and not English. Given that Scotland is in Great Britain, he is British as well.

  • @willpen14 good to know that they are people out there who managed to sleep through EVERY geography class they ever had to take......so many tried to do it and couldn't, but you can be proud because you obviously succeeded

  • @willpen14 scotland IS britain. eng+wales+scotch=britain. NI+brit=UK. simple really. (prob channel isles and isle of man should be there somewhere)

  • Fry is a bit two faced here - when he's in Britain he goes on about the positives and why he could only really live there, in his two properties - London and Norwich...

    he is a privately educated millionaire - so doesn't have quite the same balanced perspective on life in two continents that most immigrants to either nation generally get

  • I'm an American and I love that these guys love my country. I lived in France and the UK for 8 years and I love those places/people too. Let's all make a pledge not to generalize (generalise) about each other in 2011. I'm quite certain most of us know you have the Internet and toothpaste in Europe!

  • I thought the people who left for America were those who wanted to leave the decadence of Europe? I don't think it was really to do with risk-taking.

  • @LatumWay: They were leaving the poverty of their European existence where the eldest child inherited whatever was left to inherit and the other 12 kids got kicked to the curb if they didn't work to bring money home to give to their parents and younger siblings. To decide to leave for America where they had opportunity was very risky. Crammed in crowded steerage with only a few $ and the clothes on their back, often not speaking English, and never to see the family in the old country again.

  • @joebenevides Often not speaking English? Most white americans are of english speaking descent.

  • @LatumWay: What?! That's ridiculous! You think most white Americans are from the British Isles? Many Irish did come as a result of the Potato Famine, but from the 1880s thru the 1st half of the 20th century, most European immigration was from Germany, Italy, Northern and Eastern Europe, Spain and Portugal. My family came during the first 2 decades of the 20th century from Portugal to meet up with large Portuguese communities in Massachusetts and Central California, and they didn't speak English.

  • This isn't really true. The only time I hear "Only in America", it's about someone who's gotten a Big Mac, king size fries, an apple pie, and a Diet Coke.

  • OMG, "Only in Britain" I've got to start using that phrase.

  • thumbs up if when stephen fry said "There is a theory" you thought he was gonna pull something from QI

  • I'm an American and I'd have to disagree with these two --- Britain is a wonderful, ancient country. America became so great because it was founded on British ideals that had been pushed aside in their native country.

  • @AemiliaPaulla Founded on British ideals? Separation of church and State is NOT a British Ideal. The list goes on as well. You are, unfortunate, ignorant on American history and culture.

  • @Dominick629 The fact that some ideals are different doesn't mean it isn't founded on British ideals. We have a peer jury and English common law. The Magna Carta is a British document.

    "Man's home is his castle"- British.

    We also got ideas from the French adversarial system and the Swiss separation of powers.

  • @AemiliaPaulla Here’s a provocative take on history; Britain and America had no part whatsoever in establishing the trans-Atlantic slave trade. Furthermore, it was they who were the first civilisation in history to seek to abolish it. In contrast the Arabs have been prolific slavers for 1,400 and counting. The Portuguese were the sole Atlantic slave traders for 100 years and had a monopoly for 200 years. That should make some people very, very angry.

  • @ritchloui If I understand what you were saying, that's just false. Slavery was illegal in Iceland pre-1117. The Industrial Revolution made slaves more expensive than machines. The Industrial Revolution began in Britain. It could have less to do with civilization and more to do with economics. The British obviously had a stake in trying to make slavery end in other places, and they were a super power, so they could use their influence to try to make it happen.

  • @darris321 Slavery was also illegal in Britain pre-1117 and, I think I am right in saying it was never actually legal on British soil. Why not? I am aware of the 'economic' take on the abolishment of slavery. I think it a somewhat jaundiced view with its own roots in a school of thought that resulted in the Gulag.

  • Europe is also made up of a genepole of people that were strong enough to survive the fairly horrible conditions that existed in the times of the great move to America

  • @blablomma Exactly --- I'd also argue that the people who came to the New World weren't exactly the cream of the European crop (with a few exceptions, of course).

  • @AemiliaPaulla You mean the Puritans WEREN'T the pinacle of civilization?

  • @AemiliaPaulla I agree, before America became the 'country of endless possibilities'; a lot of prisoners were sent there. Not to mention a lot of refugees who had some radical cult/sekt like ideas.

    They're mostly a nice people though, only I will never forget when a few american friends asked me whether we had internet and/or toothpaste in europe xD

  • stefen fry should apply for a job with the cia

  • How many times on QI has he slagged off America, albeit semi-jokingly.

  • @r2d23678 I feel sorry for your mum.

  • @StickItUpYrBumGugle lol your mad

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