Ron Paul and Kucinich on Iraq

[cshargeit]

unless you believe jesus in a manger, then i the great oz will make you fear- you shall suffer fear longer than the michael jackson case. i will sanduskyize you. you will never use soap in the shower again.

[nikolayzou]

How do you think Ron Paul's vice President will be, I am not sure about this Kucinich character.

[pimpingmrli]

@nikolayzou You might not be sure about him...but Ron Paul is. Take a look at one of the many videos on youtube of Ron saying so!

Here's one example:  v=oJcnoDfFWhM

[Paintballerfromhell1]

Kucinich and Paul are personal friends

[FreedomFinder]

This may be the last opportunity for America to reverse this track of destruction we are on – and a chance to rebuild a system of governance that understands its true role, to protect our freedoms and support the right to private property and the accumulation of wealth. Liberties well understood by those who architected American's Constitution and the Bill of Rights. RON PAUL 2012 <3333

[definemaybe]

all adds up to an ILLEGAL WAR 

[PikSokolit]

Kucinich says in the vid "adherence to internation law". Ummm, NO. I'll side with Ron Paul's adherence to the Constitution !!!

[YoungIvyScholar]

I like Paul better but Kucinich is amazing too!

[JimmyFormerMarine]

Impeach Ron Paul!

[MrWakethesheeple]

By the way Jimmy Rand Paul is going to be a senator and he is Dr. Paul's son. Real constitutional libertarians like Ron and myself are going to divide the republican party until we take it over. Relax once we take it over Marines will only be sent to declared wars to defend this country not bullshit offensive police actions based on lies and corporate thievery.

[Mark123USA]

@JimmyFormerMarine Jimmy you are an insult to the Marines.

[JimmyFormerMarine]

@Mark123USA Fuck off you pussy!

[candiceevans1]

@JimmyFormerMarine another troll trying to wrap themselves in the American flag and patriotism to hide their trollishness ....yea your a real American,,,,too stupid to know a good candidate when you see one but smart enough to sign up for a job where the banks use you for target practice

[JimmyFormerMarine]

@candiceevans1 Ron Paul would make a good candidate for the Libertarian Party because he agrees with them on almost everything. But like the good political opportunist he has always been, he uses the Republican label to get elected in his district. Dennis Kucinich would make a good candidate for the Communist Party USA, but uses the Democratic Party for the same reason Ron Paul uses the Republican Party.

[JimmyFormerMarine]

Impeach Ron Paul - get his sorry ass out of Congress.

[MrWakethesheeple]

Jimmy the Marine: Ron Paul follows the Constitution. Unfortunately the wars you have fought in make bankers and contractors rich, destroy the value of our dollar and bankrupt the economy and take away people's constitutional rights...all while making Americans less safe as for every enemy killed more new ones are born.

You are the big government liberal and Ron Paul is the conservative. That is a fact.

[ZenoPol]

And Jesse Ventura as Sec of Defense.

[sandythebear]

@ZenoPol Jesse ventura sec of state david patraeus sec of defense

[lazrul]

Paul is an idiot how dare compare him to the great Kucinich.

[oldpreach]

You must be joking, right ?

[hotblud82]

you are an idiot, how dare you speak Paul's name

[CarribeanBeachbum06]

Huh?

What are you a terrorist telling people to watch their step?!

LOL

[PierreElliottTrudeau]

Kucinish is an infinitely better man than Ron Paul.

[PhranqueGallo]

Kucinich - Paul 2010

Impeach obama

[HR1207auditthefed]

I just got to say... You got to love the homophobe. They can't help that.. just like a gay can't be straight.. same thing. And now there are some gays using hate speech towards Ron Paul for being a homophobe.. like its a bad thing. Dont let fear of homophobia (Homophobephobia) turn you into a Homophobe hater. Love the Homophobe. I dont mean chase after the Homophobe with your pants down either. No more Hate or Hate speech.

[psychawareness]

If you remove the corruption and special interests out of politics, you would realize that Paul and Kucinich are polar opposites and should never run on the same ticket.

[elnegrobembon]

true.. even though they sound like they have similar foreign policy views, on domestic and economic policy they sound very different...

[Nawledge1]

They are?

[psychawareness]

yeah

[Nawledge1]

Never really saw that though.

[psychawareness]

"Never really saw" that they are opposites?

[Hesheli27]

@psychawareness oh ya? why is that ?

[Nacho2333]

Kucinich/Paul, i would vote for them. Sad thing is the preisdent election is a popularity contest 85% of the time.If Obama,Clinton and Edwads didnt run Kucinich would of been a front funner

[willyjones7]

yea but what do you expect when the media completely ignores these guys

thank god for the internet

if it wasn't for the internet i would have never found out about Kucinich or Paul...

[Nacho2333]

they ignore the truth

[revolutionelection]

Kucinich signed H.R. 1207

[willyjones7]

yes thank god

i was starting to get worried there but he just signed on

hes number 218 on the co sponsors list :D

[Nacho2333]

Thats because he reads to make sure hes voting on the right thing =)

[hiphopper420w]

whats the news on the fed i know he had alot of co spondsers ??

[itallwentwronq]

is that true that Kucinich voted for infamous GIVE Act?

[codeman1979]

So long as Kucinich leaves the 2nd admendment alone he can come play with us libertarians. We'll work slowly on some of his other social issues but as far as democrats go he aint the worst one out there. I invite to come over to the libertarian point of veiw and leave the DNC

[CarribeanBeachbum06]

As long as Kucinich STOPS BANNING people from discussing issues on his forum, maybe he can be credible. It seems the anti-Israel lobby has bought Kucinich and silences anyone who dares an opinion. Shame DK! Shame!

[EnhancementSmoker]

the anti-israeli lobby?

what anti-israeli lobby?

silences people? he barely has any media access...his speach at the DNC wasnt even televised...

seems like your just pissed cuz hes one of the only ones in congress with the courage to speak the truth about the atrocities in palestine...

what in gods name are you talking about?

[CarribeanBeachbum06]

I heard Lyn Samuels on Left Radio berate a caller saying she can't be a Liberal and like Israel. Likewise, try to say anything positive on Kucinich's website forum about Israel and you will be Banned. Silenced.

[CarribeanBeachbum06]

I care equally about the Palestinians and the Israelis. I don't know why people need to choose sides. How can Kucinich be a good man if he doesn't want the best for both people? Isn't Peace the goal?

[EnhancementSmoker]

who cares about Lynn Samuels? Are u basing everything you think liberals think about Israel on Lynn Samuels?

and what positive comments about Israel were banned from Kucinichs website?

what anti-Israel lobby? That dosent exist...what are you talking about

I think you are completely misreping Kucinichs stance on Israel

Hes one of the only ones that speaks the truth about the situation over there

like S Africa, peace can be achieved by addressing the truth...not the BS propaganda

[CarribeanBeachbum06]

When asked about an anti-Israel lobby, I was responding with something that was said by Lynn. On kucinich, one only has to question the person with a nic: NoWarForIsrael and you will find yourself on the street.

[EnhancementSmoker]

claim that the coverage in the MSM(supposedly liberal) reps the positions of Lynn...and expresses the mantra No War for Israel?

Samuels is irrelevant....and in terms of the Israel debate, kucinich is too. why is them being pro-israeli so important to you?

Hes one of the only ones speaking out....and his rhetoric is mild compared to people like Chomsky

As an American, do you think the message NO War For Israel is unreasonable? If so why?

And just what questions were you asking him?

[CarribeanBeachbum06]

Therefore irritated that many on the Left seem to BAN any conversation they don't feel like reading, yet they march in the streets demanding to be heard! That seems a bit hypocritical and defeating for the goal of peace in my view.

[EnhancementSmoker]

what exact conversations are people on the left banning? Demanding? Funny, I thought the right held the tea parties

Its clear that mainstream media does not address the Israeli/Palestinian conflict fairly.

Israels gov is an occupying force that routinely violates international law. Palestine is an occupied territory whos citizens routinely violate international law.

Yet unlike the rest of the world, the reporting in the US is completely slanted towards Israel

That is defeating peace

[CarribeanBeachbum06]

There are problems on both sides of the Israeli -Palestinian issue. Israelis have occupied some areas to keep weapons from Iran entering the war zone. I can't blame the Israelis for that. Palestinian rocket attacks and Jewish Settlements haven't helped peace.

[EnhancementSmoker]

yes, problems on both sides...rockets, settlements

But to argue that Israel occupies to keep weapons out is absurd

The Israeli gov territorial model is expansion

The main reason weapons go in from Iran is BECAUSE of the occupation

Think. Why does Israel support illegal settlements? Why did they massacre 1500 people around christmas? To keep weapons out from Iran?

Is it not the right of people to resist occupation when the occupation itself makes life untenable?

[CarribeanBeachbum06]

Yes, actually the attack on Gaza was because of rockets fired at neighborhoods in Israel. The sea blockade is there to keep weapons out of Gaza but they dug tunnels from Egypt. Part of why Israel is hesitant to let the Palestinians be on their own is because of the weapons.

[CarribeanBeachbum06]

If Mexico vowed to push the USA into the Atlantic, and shelled us from Mexican territory, would we be happy to release the land they were firing from if Chavez was still arming them? Doubtful. Israel didn't ask to be attacked during the 6 day war.

[EnhancementSmoker]

as usual, the comparison is incomplete.

mexico hasnt been under occupation by the US for over 40 years...

the solution to Israels occupation forces being attacked is to end the occupation. Palestinian attacks on Israel (within the legally recognized 1967 borders) are unjustifiable. As are Israels attacks on illegally occupied territories. The best way to end terrorism against yourself, is to not engage in it.

[CarribeanBeachbum06]

In 1967 was Israel attacked? If Germany constantly rocketed Poland today, would we return Poland to Germany because Hitler once owned it? The Arabs who attacked and LOST the war, should be happy Israel gave any of it back.

[CarribeanBeachbum06]

If the Arabs had won the 6 day war and annihilated the Jews, would they give back any property the Jewish people had purchased? You know they wouldn't so it's a double standard. Definitely not moral or fair.

[EnhancementSmoker]

none of that happened...thats hypothetical bullshit...

and the fact is now, today, people are ghettoized and dying in palestine...is that moral or fair?

[CarribeanBeachbum06]

Oh but it did happen! Israel was attacked by a huge group of nations. They were shelled mercilessly from the Golan Heights. Israel beat the odds and defeated all these combined nations.

[CarribeanBeachbum06]

How many homes have the whining Arab and Persian states built for the Palestinians? How many millions have they spent arming the Palestinians? There is your answer on why they are ghettoized and dying.

[CarribeanBeachbum06]

The USA and Israel have begged and given concessions to the Palestinians to drop the use of violence. Have they? Has the hate speech from Iran slowed? Yet who is always the villain? The USA? Israel? What if Dr. Martin Luther King had championed violence?

[PeterSodhi]

CArribean, lol too funny. Does the phrase STFU mean anything to you?? :)

[CarribeanBeachbum06]

Who attacked Israel BEFORE those lands became occupied?! Who was that? If you don't want to be....Occupied don't attack your neighbors!

[CarribeanBeachbum06]

The best thing Palestinians could do is to lay down their weapons and protest peacefully. Like the American Civil Rights movement, they would win respect and the trust of the Israelis. Then if Israelis fire on unarmed people, I would be with you.

[EnhancementSmoker]

I agree, that is the best thing palestinians can do.

But, the Israelis do fire on unarmed people. In that attack during Christmas, they initiated the bombings right after school let out. Even Americans like Rachel Corrie have been killed protesting.

Im sorry to say it, but you are seriously misinformed. No time now, but ill reply later as to what im talking about.

But I suggest you visit BT Selems website...its an Israeli human rights organization.

[CarribeanBeachbum06]

Arabs and Persians are notorious at firing from schools, ambulances, and the like. Sadly, that makes these items ...targets. They like to parade the dead, (even photo shopping in Lebanon) exaggerations for P.R. This doesn't bring peace.

[CarribeanBeachbum06]

At one point I felt anger towards the Israeli Army for firing on protesters until the Palestinians turned violent and started car bombing and launching rockets. I now see Israel fully justified to protect themselves. We would do not different.

[CarribeanBeachbum06]

I have heard of the American Girl who stubbornly stood in front of an Israeli bulldozer. I don't mean to agitate, but I don't feel sorry for her death. When Palestinians turn to violence there is a cost.

[argyle684]

I'm getting tired of people trying to associate Kucinich with Ron Paul. Ron Paul is a libertarian constitutionalist who believes in small government, unlike Kucinich.

[votepaulkucinich2012]

Well you have not seen nothing yet. Many more videos to come.

[Jaspian]

I hate to have to correct you, argyle, but despite their differences, Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich actually get along quite well - to the extent that, when asked during the 2008 campaign if he'd consider Kucinich as a running mate, he said he would.

[JimmyFormerMarine]

@argyle684 That's been tried before. The only people who benefit from your actions are the Democrats and others who seek to destroy America.

[candiceevans1]

@argyle684 I know why you feel that way,,,and after that healthcare flip flop Ill never support Kucinich for pres. I thought he was at least honest which is better then most but not after the ride on air force one. Kucinich said he would chose Ron for HIS running mate but when Ron was asked if hed chose dennis Ron politely said well its too early to talk about that. lol

[linneau]

@argyle684 Thanks for the statement. I tend to agree with Ron Paul because as a constitutionalist I strongly believe in state's rights. Kucinich is in favor of more social federal programs. I still have respect for Kucinich though.

[JackTheFlippinTipper]

@argyle684 read up on dennis kucinich my friend. many would call him a libertarian democrat. he is for smaller government in most cases. he believes that government should simply provide for its people what they cannot provide for themselves.

[aligzanduh]

@argyle684 Hey Dude: Revolutions get ugly when you demand idealogical purity - Paul and Kucinich will shut dwwn the glut of pentagon and contracting pork together.

Paul believes it will be a multi generational task to re-establish a yeoman citizenry - and during that transition - we need to help people to learn to take care of themselves. - The devil is how to do it - through subsidies, incentives - or tough love.

[rmccay88]

@argyle684

Your right but you have to understand Dennis is not a CFR member or controlled by special interests. I don't agree with many of what Dennis K. votes for domestically speaking, especially Obamacare. But he wants transparency from the Fed, has always opposed the Patriot Act and has opposed Iraq and now Libya hardcore. Would you take him or someone like Paul Ryan who is supposed to be a conservative, but voted for TARP and still votes as of today to reauthorize the Patriot Act?

[andycf87]

@argyle684 ... i agree with you about Kucinich not being a conservative like Ron, however what you cannot take away from Dennis is that like Ron he sticks to his convictions and is not afraid to fight for what he believes in

[Thrice13]

Why on earth would anyone want Kucinich on the same ticket as Ron Paul?? Ron Paul won't have the energy to run in 2012 anyways. We need to get someone similar minded to him, such as Jesse Ventura, Peter Schiff, Rand Paul, or even Chuck Baldwin if he can stop integrating Christianity with politics!

[txliberty]

Kucinich is a traitor to Ron Paul and our movement.

[david135]

I love that... I am Ron Paul and I am the champion of the Constitution... I love you Ron Paul

[starlight1946]

The two politicians who are truly worthy of dignity and honesty are these two gentlemen. Lets have them in 2012. They have always stood for the needs of the people.

[AStarSpangledGirl]

they are both honest but the ideology is very different. I won't vote for a Democrat. I will prefer to see a Ron Paul/Rand Paul ticket instead

[RonPaul786]

Why is DK not a co-spnsor for HR 1207?

[Desnoxvu]

We are all thinking the same thing.

[macinho18]

Ron Paul 2012!!

[BlueEagle8]

Are you kidding me. DK can do his own thing.

Ron Paul is my president.

[ddiiaa52]

Ron Paul !! 2012..

[SaveTheRepublicNow]

good video, but why isn't K on hr1207?

[AStarSpangledGirl]

I can't support a Paul/Kucinich ticket unless once Ron Paul won the primaries...HE was to choose Kucinich as his VP. I like Kucinich but he is still a democrat. I would a gazillion times rather see a Ron Paul/Rand Paul ticket...though it wouldn't surprise me if Dr Paul choose Kucinich becasue I know they are great friends.

[jon32et]

Single payer is the only option. Every industrialized nation besides the U.S. has universal healthcare. Not having universal healthcare hurts businesses because they must pay for their workers healthcare and compete against foreign corporations that do not need to pay thier workers health care b/c the govt already provides it.

[AStarSpangledGirl]

Nationalized healthcare expands government. That is a BAD thing...period.

[BIackOp]

Only Competition will ensure a successful Health care system and you don't need some monopoly handling it. The Free Market can handle this as long as people have the power to be able to shut down the bad businesses and keep the successful ones. That is something big business and Government don't want. Free means opportunity for private agencies to assist the growing demand for service. The Ultimate Regulation for this is boycotting, going on strike, and have no barriers for the market..

[AStarSpangledGirl]

BlackOp...I agree. As much as I like his honesty...I can not support Dennis Kucinich.

[vidz4funz]

single payer actually pays for itself by cutting out management costs. 30% of healthcare costs in the US are management related, versus Canada where only 17% of costs are due to management.

[BIackOp]

They said the same thing for NASA, and now its a corporate Welfare system consuming money and not making returns profits.. Don't get me wrong, I am not anti NASA... I am just not happy about the direction of the system.. The same can be said for Health Care..

[danbowski40]

Ron Paul 2012!!