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  • Wait, so is Jesus the Savior of just one planet, or every planet everywhere?

  • Jesus came through the line of Adam to save Adams race. I do not know of any members of Adams race living on other planets.

  • Poor guy, he was programmed as a child and still speaks like one.

  • it doesnt matter how far east or west apart there is an intermediate center that will never seperate them. the bible and the book of mormon are the words of God

  • Mormonism says man became a god, and would rule over his own world.

    Christianity says God became a man to die for the sins of mankind so that man could live eternally with God in heaven.

    As far as the east is from the west is the difference between Christianity and Mormonism.

  • @dmhtuber Actually, the Bible says we become as God, many times over. Genesis 3:22, John 10:34, and Romans 8:17. The points is, God repeatedly refers to us as his children. Now, I have kids. When all is said and done, they will grow up to be like me as well, thats what children do...No reason to believe God would apply that word to us if it did not mean all that it implies.

  • @bomac10000 Genesis it is saying that man has become like us talking about that we now know good and evil not saying we r gods. and in John Jesus is just asking if ye are gods Hes not saying that we are! and Romans is talking about our spirit living for eternity with God. how do you explain 1 Corinthians 8:6 But to us [there is but] one God, the Father, of whom [are] all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom [are] all things, and we by him

  • @JohnnyNyberg Genesis says "the Man has now become as one of us", Notice that Christ is not saying "become like me" but rather "us" denoting, first, That Christ and the Father identify themselves as more than one God. Secondly, that knowing good and evil is an attribute of Godhood, and that this attribute is attainable by man. If attainable, then other attributes are attainable as well. So, can man become as God is? Christ at this point says yes.

  • @JohnnyNyberg 2nd Question: "But, to us (there is but) one God" The Latter Day Saints say the same. Because to us, there will always be Jesus and Heavenly Father as God, they will always stand as God to us, but that does not mean there are no other Gods, even when and if we ourselves gain that exaltation it will NOT change our position before God.

  • @bomac100001 Corinthians 8: 4 As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol [is] nothing in the world, and that [there is] none other God but one.one!!! you see that is why you are not recognized as a Christian because you believe in other gods. why cant you just take the Bible for what it says and not have a preconceived idea from that book of mormon that the known liar joseph smith made up one day when he was drunk

  • @bomac10000 anyway im done arguing about it you just keep wearing your magic panties and believe in your false gods and I will miss you in Heaven.. what is up with the magic underwear anyway?

  • @bomac10000 you are joked upon and lookeed down on like scientology by everyone you ppl are so crazy why would God wait so long to get it right? thats a whole lot of lost souls huh. because He didnt the Bible is the only word of God. Joseph Smith was a known liar and a false prophet that stole from the Bible to make his false religion look credible cant you see that and why is it that he is the only 1 that needed some seeing stone or somethin. the true prophets didnt

  • @JohnnyNyberg Your LDS is A CULT and an embarassment to Christians everywhere!! you are crazy ppl that have no sense and inturpret the Bible for something that it is not because someone told you to think about it that is a cult!! you are willingly ignorant why cant you ppl see that. this is Madness.

  • @JohnnyNyberg Matt 5:11 "Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake."

  • @bomac10000 Im discusted by you ppl!! you sit in Gods lap to slap Him in the face!

  • @bomac10000 all it boils down to is what is true. and when you can disprove the prophet then all you have to go back on is the Holy word of God the Bible..

  • @bomac10000Galations chapter 1 verse 006:I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:007:Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.008:But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

  • @bomac10000 009:As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

  • Is this supposed to be exposing the mormon church in a negative way? The Mormon church is a negative place, but of course aliens exist. It is very ignorant to think we are the only life out of this infinite universe

  • Yeah, millions of galaxies and trillions of planets...I can see where belief in life on other planets can be heresy. After all, it was all created for the benefit of us humans on Earth. Those Mormons are crazy for believing in life on other planets. The U.S. is hiding the fact that everything revolves around the Earth, even the sun. And of course the whole moon landing...don't get me started. Those apostles are all reptiles anyway!

  • by the sacrifice of Jesus Christ we are no longer bound by the law of sin and death but by his grace we are set free. Its nothing you can earn lest any man should boast but it was all Jesus Christs sacrifice on the cross we can be saved.

  • There is an author by the name of Jim Marrs who has several interesting books about the secrets being kept from the rest of the world's population. Two of them I really suggest are, "Rule by Secrecy", "Rise of the Fourth Reich". He also gave a talk with a newspaper article from Texas back in late or early 1900's where there were people who claimed to have seen alien aircraft. The RFID chips were brought in once false flag 9/11 happened, the war on terror is really the war on freedom

  • God is not and never was a man. This is Mormon heresy! These people are deluded by Lucifer. Read and believe what the Bible says. It tells us there will never be another testament of Jesus Christ point blank, and if anyione, even an angel, brings one they are damned by God. The angle Morioni and Joseph Smith in particular.

  • @foresigns Why to the contrary sir! Are you refering to a little verse in Revelation?

  • @foresigns God is not and never was a man. This is Mormon heresy. God created man his his own image in the image of God he created he him Genisis 1:26-27. I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved Genesis 32:30. And the Lord spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. He that seeth me seeth him that sent me John 12:45. I could go on but there;s only so much heresy I can squeeze in.

  • God has only one BEGOTTEN son, Jesus. This is a basic Mormon heresy. Knowing this, I'm not interested in their opinions on aliens.

  • Heresy??? Were does it say in the bible that aliens don't exist??? better yet, Explain dinosaurs and men that walked on earth before Adam and Eve. (come on guys, we can't argue with carbon dating) Maybe the heresy was done after the world killed the Saviour and that is why mankind decided to create men like religions. religions that changed based on diplomatic vote. Religions of which around 90% of todays Christian religions are based on.

  • @42apostate

    lol .. do you have evidence that "GOD" created man on THIS planet? there is no evidence .. that's why it's religion, not science.

  • @njstilez there is a way to get proof of that you know.

  • One of the FEW times a Mormon spoke truth, IMO.

    The question is do those aliens practice polygamy? Do they have blacks they can justify discriminating against? Gays that they can bash? Proscribe a 2nd class status to their women? Do they have Mormonism in the form of a money-making, corporate, tax-exempt conglomerate?

  • What a joke.

  • If anyone has scriptural evidence that God only created man on one planet then let's see it.

  • @trencher7

    I will, IF YOU can provide evidence showing God creating man on OTHER planets.

  • @trencher7 the WAY to find PROOF is in the Book of Mormon. Moroni chapter 10. How can you say its not true, if you have never seeked the correct source for an answer? Ask God in the name of Jesus Christ in faith that it MIGHT be true. If you can humble yourself to believing it MIGHT BE TRUE, then you'll get an answer. Otherwise you are just ignorant.

  • @alliekatRuca How can I say if what is not true? I just asked for scriptural evidence that God only created mankind on one planet. I believe God may have many planets which mankind might inhabit.

  • @trencher7 oh well cool. I just thought you were saying that it can't be proven so it isn't true. Sorry for my mis understanding.

  • we are only a living things....think about it.

  • Remembering this. The Jews condemned Jesus to die because they were correct, to the letter, on the scriptures as it was held against him. Modern Jews, in the form of the Shawn MCCraney's of the world, help to reestablish this role. It's not about who is correct or not. This is very subjective and varies from day to day. It's about what is "right!" and we are fools to think that we are alone in the universe, to think that we do not continue on after this life, and we've got no additional roles.

  • Science leans towards this being true... the 5000 year leap which was created a few millennium ago was not for naught. It was all brought about to bring about Gods' purposes on this world as it has been done in other worlds prior to, beginning now and may YET come about within this grand plan of Salvation created by the immortals from the beginning of existence until now. There is yet MUCH that we should learn about our role in the universe. Mormons do not claim to know all but we know enough.

  • Ha ha ha! Still better than Scientology.

    I must say, not all Mormons are this weird.:D One of my friends is a Mormon, and she's a lovely person.:)

  • Do not succumb to the coming "alien" stron delusion to help set up the antichrist's 7 year New World Order. Do not accept the RFID verichips & Somark tattoos to buy and sell, do not worship him, nor his image in any way! Get saved now and save as many others as you possibly can while we still can for time is fleeting.

    fallenalien . com

  • An open mind asks. What if my religion is wrong? What if God evolved from bacteria somewhere else and I'm just a clueless atheist? What if I actually used logic to guide my life? I live by the truth that I don't know a lot, but I love individual liberty.

  • Do you really think that with all the billions of planets in the universe, that God would put beings on only one of them? I don't see anything bad about this video, it is inspiring!

  • @ladymargot3 This "Apostle" in't even giving good Mormon doctrine. He said Jesus created all things. The temple ceremony has Jesus and Peter and Michael, the arch angel, organizing Earth, nothing more, under the supervision of the Father. so ya. Forget all the teachings of these MEN and read the Bible, God's word.

  • @kightsun

    Yes, forget all the teachings of men, including the equally false bible, which is not god's word.

  • @ladymargot3 so you think that if your a mormon and you don't drink booze/tea/coffee smokes takes drugs,never masturbates,obeys the church without question will become a god? Also this only destroys mormonism as monotheistic when really there polytheistic,and not only that this only means the god of the bible is only one in a sea of other gods,some of which might not be as harsh,hypocritical,cruel,sexis­t,and warmongering.

  • But I thought He Man was the master of the universe????

  • i used to be a mormon and i knew at a very young age that it was a false religion. I thank God for leading me away from this deceiving religion. There are so many things i felt very uncomfortable with and it was doctorine like this that made me search my Bible for the truth. Thankyou Jesus for saving me from the false light.

  • Well the Bible is true when it says the devil has blinded the eyes of this world. Let us all get on our knees and fight this spiritual war to do the work that is set before us. Praise the Living God for his son Jesus Christ that we are saved by faith in him because my Father knows I could never earn my way to him. THank you LORD. LORD when they seek you I thank you that they will find YOU. AMEN

  • ok...this is beyond belief, how we tie aliens in with Jesus Christ of the Bible is beyond me, the Mormon doctrine is completely whacked and Id go as far as to say DIABOLICAL and has very little to do with Jesus Christ. The only thing I can think of is when the rapture happens the Mormon can say the people from other planets took us? I dont know, but the more I study Mormon doctrine the more I find out how ridiculous compared to the WORD OF GOD it really is, how can people fall for this crap. MAN

  • it pure arrogance to state that we are the only planet with life on. and what beatleman69 said just show the narrow corridor his mind inhabits.

    i respect what other people say and their beliefs it is clear that some people need to learn respect

  • Sabem eu fico imaginando, como há tantas pessoas por esse mundo ai a fora, que se você disse que o homem consegui sair do nosso planeta tais pessoas seriam capazes de lhe tacar fogo!

    Oro sinceramente que mentes tocas possam levantar os olhos e enxergar mais que um palmo a frente de seus narizes.

  • LOL! What was he smoking? Sorry, but God created man in His own image (Genesis 1:27, Genesis 2:7). There is no other. Jesus died in our place on the cross for our sins so we have forgiveness of sins. Jesus didn't give us laws, thats a lie! 23: "For all have sinned, and coe short of the glory of God: 24: Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus" Romans 3:23-24. The guy in the video speaks the lie from hell. Believe the Bible, the ONLY Word of God!

  • Just showing Mormons are very open minded, and very scientific. Mormons have believed in multiple planets with life on them and now the scientific community is catching up.

  • All is vanity and a chase after wind. The fear of God is our best effort. Peace.

  • this man is eons beyond the simple minds on youtube

  • @jferristube

    "Will we see god face to face"

    Wow...good question.

    Lots of Scriptural light is focused on that question.

    1 Corinthians 2:9 ... John 1:18 ... Revelation 22:3-4 ... Ps. 17:15 ... There are more but I will make a comment instead of referring to them.

    Yes..we will see God.

    This is predicated on my belief that Jesus IS God.

    And we most certainly will see Jesus.

    Revelation 20:11-15

    ht tp: // ww w. gotquestions. org/great-white-throne-judgmen­t. html

  • To Everyone:

    YouTube is the WORST possible venue for having meaningful debates and pursuing dialogs.

    You can PM me with anything that takes more the measley 300 (and a few) characters allowed in the comment section.

    I WILL read it.

  • It was John The Baptist during his Ministry in Galilee who said "There is one.. etc"

    I was referring to the passage of Scripture that followed my statement (Romans 7:6)

    Jesus didn't say either one of the things that are quoted but they are both inspired.

    I need to identify my references to Scripture Passages in a clearer way.

    Jesus fulfilled the Law by doing what we could not do.

    He lead a perfect (Kosher?) life, nobody before or since has been able to do that.

    We can try but we will fail.

  • The name Jesus Christ was NEVER his name!! It is a Latin based name given in place of his real name some 40 to 70 years AFTER the cricifixion! All religions are a lie, no different than a belief in Santa Claus. When has any divine being ever visit, mentor, guide or assist anyone of us ever?? There is no such thing as gods, heavens, angels and demons people. Ask god to show you evidence of his existance. He never answers prayers, lifts anyone out of a bad situation or corrects an injustice. etc.

  • @xprezitgmail Interesting comment.What was his name?Yu ask when any divine being mentored us etc?Christ if he wasnt a divine mentor then what was he that he gave us the greatest moral living code and hope of a greater life aftr this?

    His greatest evidenc of his existence for me IS me.

    Never answers prayers etc? Too bad you havnt experienced that yet

  • @jferristube Everything you believe (assume) and everything you think you know to be "true" was fabricated by the Catholic church. Joseph Smith did not have access to the internet, archeological discoveries, theological research & other studies that have revealed and exposed the truth of the amount of tampering with scriptures. God goes thru personality changes throughout the history of scriptures and even commands and condones rape w/ forced marraige to rapist, to plunder, murder, enslave???

  • @xprezitgmail

    "The name Jesus Christ was NEVER his name"

    No..it wasen't.

    He would have been called "Yashua bin David bar Joseph" ... or something close to that.

    That more or less translates to: "Yashua from the lineage of David and the son of Joseph".

    I may have the "bin" and "bar" cross-threaded...but you are correct, Jesus' name was not Jesus Christ.

    He was also called The Nazarene.

    I am sure you can ask someone of the Jewish faith and get a somewhat better definition of how that works.

  • @xprezitgmail "He never answers prayers" "lifts anyone out of a bad situation" "corrects an injustice" "Ask god to show you evidence of his existence" Not to seem rude, but are you living at the back of a cave? Step out and look around without bias. It won't be easy, your mindset will have to adjust to the light. But If you have the clear-headed courage to look you will see. It is impossible for closed eyes to see or for a closed mind to comprehend. You want to see God? Look for Him.
  • @hammerogod So you have met a divine being? You have heard voices speaking clearly and giving you answers to questions/troubles? The Kabbalah is part of the original scriptures (Abraham's knowledge of astronomy, etc.) which the Catholic church omited. The Kabbalah speaks of "the spirit reincarnating until a perfected state is reached"...this conflicts with the "resurection" fabricated by the Catholic church. The "gospels" were compiled for nearly 500 years! "Jesus Christ" wasn't his name.

  • @xprezitgmail No, I have not met a Divine Being. No, I have not heard voices. I left the Catholic Church because of the nonsense. Jesus' name was "Yashua (Joshua) bin David bar Joseph". Call Him Josh, He won't mind. I came to Jesus when my heart screamed out to be changed. I could never have done it alone, never, period. I came based only on Faith. I prayed. I looked for God. ALL the rotten things in my life have turned around. It's a good life now.. No reason for that except God's mercy.
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  • @xprezitgmail

    Is there a God?

    That question has been around as long as Mankind has.

    The only answer I can provide is "Yes, there is, I have profound and convincing evidence that He exists and cares personally for me".

    Would my "Evidence" stand up in Court?

    Probably not.

    Aquinas gives better answers than I ever will.

    His defense of God is overwhelmingly convincing.

    I can't touch that level of conviction, nor can I pull together that kind of a logical defense.

    Read Aquinas, "Summa Theologica"

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  • @hammerogod When you say that you have "profound and convincing 'evidence' that 'He' exists"...would you mind sharing the evidence? My question is due to this; have you heard of the scroll found at the burial of Immanuel (Jesus Christ)? It was translated into German and then into English. This scroll conflicts with the version the authors of the catholic christianity. I confirms the overwhelming evidence of his travel to and his life and burial in India "after" the crucifixion.

  • @xprezitgmail

    Let's lay a bit of ground-work.

    ~ I said that my 'Evidence" would not stand up in Court.

    ~ My "Experiences" are limited to ---> you guessed it ---> My "Experiences".

    ~ I only trust first-hand Experience.

    ~ Documentation THAT YOU TRUST gives you something to base beliefs on that's not completely Subjective.

    ~ The Documentation is the Key.

    ~ Issues like Reliability, Historicity, Authorship, Motive, Agenda, Etc have to be considered.

    ~ I look at Agendas first. (who gains what?)

  • @hammerogod I understand/agree w/ what you say. I was refering to your experience(s). Also, regarding the points of discussion I brought up?

  • @xprezitgmail

    When I look at any Documentation that is Ex-Scriptura I always ask myself "Who gains from this?" ... "What Agenda is in operation?".

    Evidence of Jesus being in India after the Resurrection?

    I have read some of the books.

    Starting back years ago when they first appeared.

    I don't give it any credibility.

    My conclusion is that the Multi-Theistic nature of Hinduism demands that Jesus be included.

    Even if that means ignoring pre-existing documentation that has better credentials.

  • @hammerogod

    so do you accept Jesus visited India after His resurrection?

  • @jferristube

    I doubt STRONGLY that Jesus left the Galilee area at any point during His ministry, before or after the Resurrection.

    But, I see nothing in Scripture that categorically denies or prohibits Him from going anywhere He chooses to go.

    Jesus clearly told everyone who witnessed His ascension, plus, by association, ALL Believers: "Go you into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature" Mark 16:15

    He gave us that responsibility.

    He never said He would do it.

  • Jesus did say:

    "Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live"

    John 14:19

    That "The world will not see me anymore" pretty much knocks all the Later Day movement folks into an odd position.

    Yes?

    No?

    ht tp: //w ww. returnofjesus. com/

  • @hammerogod That "The world will not see me anymore" pretty much knocks all the Later Day movement folks into an odd position.

    Why is that?

    We know He will return at His Second Coming when All will see Him come in all His power and glory which is yet future.

    Dont see how that makes our position odd.

  • @hammerogod The OT testament and His words show he didnt leave Galilee.He said he came only to His Own.The House of Israel.He said in the NT He had other sheep that wer not of that fold(in Galilee area).That He would visit them. He would bring them.Ther would be one fold and one Shepherd.

    God promised Abraham (Israel)his seed would be scattered upon the face of the earth nd among all nations.We know that happened BC as well as AD.The 12 tribes of Israel?Food for thought?

  • @hammerogod Anything written by "Mark" is extremely suspect. Consider that Mark wrote in his version more than 70 or 100 years AFTER the crucifixion. None of the "authors" of the New Testament were ever acquainted with Immanuel (jesus christ). Also, the Latin-based name "jesus christ" was NEVER his name. And there is incredible proof that he went to India after the crucifixion. The story you believe (assume to be true) was fabricated by the founders of the Catholic christianity.

  • @hammerogod I understand/agree w/ what you say. I was refering to your experience(s). Also, regarding the points of discussion I brought up? ie; "Is There A Deity Or Not and What Is The Compelling Evidence For Either Probability?" ie; "Latin-based name 'Jesus Christ' was never His name nor was He ever addressed as such" ie; "No respector of persons" D&C....

  • @hammerogod I understand/agree w/ what you say. I was refering to your experience(s). Also, regarding the points of discussion I brought up? ie; "Is There A Deity Or Not and What Is The Compelling Evidence For Either Probability?" ie; "Latin-based name 'Jesus Christ' was never His name nor was He ever addressed as such" ie; "No respector of persons" D&C ie; "The 3rd of the host of heaven were cast out and lost their First Estate"

  • @xprezitgmail

    hey xprez

    cant figure out if your with LDS or against

  • @jferristube I am neither 'for' nor 'against." I am addressing the following: At one point in childhood some believed in Santa Clause or Fairies...identically as believing in the story of a deity (christian/hebrew/muslim) and the earth being 6,000 years old. Much like belief in Santa. It no longer comes down to "which" organization/reli­gion is the one which represents the actual deity...but rather, Is There A Deity Or Not and What Is The Compelling Evidence For Either Probability?

  • @xprezitgmail

    Heres a thought

    You have a problem believeing the earth, according to Christians is only 6,000 yrs old?

  • @jferristube We can start with this one, sure. If the earth is 6000 years old, how is it that the Chinese have a dated, recorded history that clearly goes back further than this time line?? There are other cultures on the globe right now with a history (recorded and dated) going back further. Then archeologists discover ancient cities that were there BEFORE these cultures and civilizations. The earth is NOT 6000 years old. Or do you propose the earth is 6000 years old?

  • @hammerogod Let's be rational and logical here. If his name was NEVER jesus christ, and the founders of the catholic church invented it and then for 500 years slowly compiled the "new testament" and they changed or altered many of the texts and rejected all the texts that did not comply with the "story" they wanted their preists to work with; then why did he tell Joseph Smith to include the name jesus christ in the name of the church? Why didn't he give the "correct" beatitudes to the Nephites?

  • @xprezitgmail

    #1- I don't support the LDS or Joseph Smith...so let's skip that.

    #2- The Dead Seas Scrolls refute any contention that NT Scripture has been changed.

    #3- 500 years to compile the New Testament is not a long time if you consider the conditions under which they were compiled.

    #4- Compiled =/= Created. (gathering documents is not the same as authoring documents).

    #5- The documents that were rejected then have been rejected since...nobody has ever considered them to be 'Canonical'.

  • @hammerogod #1 cool. #2 How old are the dead sea scrolls? There's your hint. #3 What 'conditions' are you referring to? Duress? Considering who founded the Catholic christianity, they were not under any duress formulating their gospel. That's why it was forbiden that people read the bible. #4 They tampered heavily wth the texts they included and it 's been found they wrote in extra writings decades after the original was written. #5 Why were they rejected? What about my other points? Thnx.

  • @xprezitgmail

    #1- I think so.

    #2- The Dead Sea Scrolls are contemporaneous with the early church writers.

    Additionally:

    ~The Bible I use was not written by the Catholics.

    ~The texts that were rejected are still in existence and available.

    ~The Bible I read has that material included.

    ~It is up to me, after study, reflection, education and research to determine FOR MYSELF if those texts are cogent and clearly reflect and agree with the concepts & contexts of the Gospel..

    ~It works for me.

  • @hammerogod Which one or whose gospel are you using? What evidence have you gained that it represents an actual deity? If your bible contains the rejected books then you understand that being "born again" means literally the reincarnation of the spirit until a perfected state is reached. Or does yours teach something else? Thnx.

  • @xprezitgmail

    Part #1

    The "Synoptics" are interesting reading but they are what you seem to have the most problem with.

    So...

    You will be gratified to know that Paul is my go-to guy.

    After reading ONLY Paul's letter to the Hebrews and his letter to the Romans I have what I need to base a strong belief on.

    Paul uses pure Greek logic to present the "Gospel".

    He succeeds.

    The historicity of the OT & NT become only sidelights when you read, with understanding, Paul's defense.

    That is my source.

  • @hammerogod Here's my issue with these "books" as I was once like you a bit. It turns out that anything "Paul" wrote was not written by him, nor was he even alive at the time these "writings" were written and included in the bible. Also, Paul (like 95% of the population at that time) was illiterate and did not know how to read or write. The theological resaearch has uncovered startling things. The apostle John never existed, whos teachings actually was of Mary Magdalene...this has been proven.

  • @xprezitgmail

    You are off on an intellectual wank-a-thon now.

    And way out there.

    Paul was far from illiterate.

    There is evidence from Roman (and Greek) texts, complete unassociated with anything written in Palestine, that present Paul as a Scholar of merit, Greek trained and Educated.

    Mary of Magdala (Μαρία ἡ Μαγδαληνή) was a female disciple and probably spent time with Jesus during His ministry in Galilee.

    So?

    The Apocrypha contains "The Gospel of Mary" and she may have written it.

    So?

  • @hammerogod Please remember; I fully respect what anyone chooses to believe in. I am in no way attempting to prove (nor disprove) a particular religion, faith or belief as being "false" or any of that. I was hoping to discuss these findings that have clearly identified the tamperings. What apears to me to be surfacing from all the tampering is quite different from what the Catholic christianity claims as "Truth."

    Not sure if you've viewed these theological findings? Will look at that material.

  • @xprezitgmail Part #2 "Born Again" can only be understood from a framework of Faith. Baptism + Holy Spirit. The Spirit of God joining with our Spirit to create a new being. Not a reincarnated being, an entirely new being. It starts with a step and cannot be comprehended, understood or analyzed without taking that step. Once that step is taken it becomes obvious and cannot be ignored. Like I said, it is a Spiritual issue. AKA: Don't try to describe a KISS concert if you've never seen one.
  • @hammerogod Faith is another word for assume/assumption correct? The only one preaching One Life One Resurrection is the Catholic christianity and all the derivative denominations. The old texts and the Kabbalah all teach reincarnation. To control and manage a religious/superstitious people, reincarnation is NOT conducive for this end. You are aware of what ruling class it was that founded the Catholic christianity?

  • @xprezitgmail "Papal Sin: The Structures of Deceit, by Garry Wills" Publisher: Doubleday ISBN: 0385494114 I read it 2 days after it hit the shelves. Barnes & Noble has it. I recommend that you read it. (not buy it necessarily...your Library may have it). Please read it and then we will be on the same page re: the Catholics, the History of Catholicism and Etc. I grew up Catholic and rejected it somewhere between ages 22 and 28. I became a Protestant in the fullest sense of the word.
  • @hammerogod Have you viewed this? You can copy-paste into the YouTube search.

    4.0 Crossing the Event Horizon - Unlocking the Mystery - The Future is In Our Hands.mkv 

  • No.

    What you posted was a statement.

    Bold statements of Truth carry a lot of weight but they are still statements, not Laws.

    Telling you that unless you keep clean oil in your car the engine will be ruined up is not a Law.

    It is a Statement that carries the weight of Truth.

    A Law would dictate "you MUST keep clean oil in your car".

    However Christ does say "Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again" in John 3:1-7

    One of the biggest "Musts' in Scripture.

  • @hammerogod "Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again" in John 3:1-7

    One of the biggest "Musts' in Scripture.

    And LDS believe the same.Thats what Christ said,We must be born again

    And what does it mean to be born again?

    Born of the Water and of the Spirit?

  • @jferristube

    Yep.

    Water Baptism and the Renewing of the Spirit

    “There is one who will come after me. . . He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit”  Mk. 1:7-8; Mt. 3:11; Jn. 1:33

    I find this to be one of the most interesting things Jesus* ever said:

    (*Well, Paul actually, but it is revelatory in the extreme)

    Romans 7:6 “But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.”

  • @hammerogod There is one who will come after me. . . He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit

    I always thought it was John the baptist who said those very important words.

    Christ made the laws Higher.Came not to destroy the Law but to fullfill.Until He came the Jews were bound by the "Letter" of the Law.Christ taught the Spirit of the law.Judaism was bound by Mosaic/Carnal laws.It was from Carnal Law that Christ freed us and indeed we continue to serve and obey Him in spirit

    If Ye Love Me...

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  • @jferristube The Law was the Teacher. Teaching that we could not satisfy the Law. The Law was not made to be broken it was made to be impossible for men to satisfy. It was a standard that no man could reach but it was still the Law. God demanded that it be kept. Breaking it was Sin. Sin was Death. God's Catch-22 Great Lesson!? God could have eased the Law but He didn't Why? So ONLY He got the Glory when the Law was finally kept. Jesus reached the standard and the Glory stayed with God.
  • @hammerogod Well pointed out. Which interestingly enough brings us to the Kabbalah, wherein it states that the spirit reincarnates and is born again and again until a perfected state is reached. Why did the authors of the Catholic christianity omit so many books and especially original gospel texts such as the kabbalah texts? Also, the Latin-based name "jesus christ" replaced his actual name (Immanuel) some 40 - 70 years AFTER the crucifixion. There is evidence of his burial in India on YouTube.

  • @xprezitgmail

    I am not very familiar with the Kabbalah.

    I understand that even the Jews rejected the Kabbalah.

    The Catholics rejected a lot of texts, keeping only the Apocrypha in some versions of the Douay-Rheims translation of the Vulgate.

    Two of the common usages of the word Apocrypha ( ἀπόκρυφος) are "spurious" and "of questionable authenticity".

    Protestant Bibles don't have it because Luther was making a polemical point about the canonicity of these books.

  • @hammerogod Not sure what or which Jews "rejected" the kabbalah texts?? Every Jewish male, upon reaching the age of 40, is then permitted to study the "higher" knowledge contained in the kabbalah. The kabbalah texts is where Abraham got all his knowledge of astronomy, etc.

    Also, the apostle "John" NEVER existed. Due to the suppression and low-classing of women in those times, Mary Magdalene was replaced by the invented John. This has been proven by theologians doing research.

  • Just for the record:

    Jesus never gave any "Laws".

    He gave some Commands but never any "Laws".

    Matthew 28:19

    "go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit"

    John 13:34

    "Love one another. As I have loved you"

    Matthew 22:37

    "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind"

  • @hammerogod

    One example of a Law

    Unless a man be born of water and of the Spirit he can in nowise enter the Kingdom of God.His words.

    Born Agains?Is it Not their law that unless you accept Him as Savior etc etc you will Not be saved?

    Surely those are laws just as much as they may be considered commands

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  • @jferristube

    This is my "personal" Scripture.

    It is the one I cling to.

    "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand" John 10:27-28

  • @hammerogod My sheep hear my voice

    I personally believe anyone in any denomination within Christianity can be one of His Sheep.As the verse says.None of His will be lost.

    But He did say.

    If you Love Me.

    Keep My Commandments

    He did give many commandments.

    Your right.To be born again is a command

  • “Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when he appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is”

    I John 3:2

    “Now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face”

    I Corinthians 13:12

    Just so the Mormons know that they are not the only ones who have read the Bible.

    The meaning of those passages is very straight forward.

    The words do not support any private contentions of the LDS.

    The words say what they say.

  • @hammerogod

    He died and suffered on the cross.Was resurrected with a glorified perfected immortal body of flesh n bone.He will return with the very same body of flesh n bone.The very same Body he showed the apostles aftr resurrection.

  • @jferristube

    I have no problem with anything you said.

    The term "Glorified" has great meaning but according to the words "Now we see in a mirror darkly" our concept of what awaits must be very limited.

    1 Corinthians 2:9

    "Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God has prepared for them that love him".

    That pretty much says it all.

  • @hammerogod 1 John 3:2 “Now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face”

    Interesting point here?

    Will we see god face to face

  • Read Romans 8 thevakoffski. What is a Joint-heir with Christ?

  • @twocentsin4 Oh, right.you don't think about it because you are not exhauled to the Priesthood, or done that secret ceremony in the temple

    No! See ther you go Judging my situation on extremely Limited knowledge of me and my circumstance.Im happy to hav Christ as my judge and worry not at all of yours

    I dont think about it bcos right now ther are more important spiritual matters to attend to.That simple.

    Might pay for yu to act more christian in word and deed rather than ranting and condemning

  • @twocentsin4 You need to work harder! Well, It's a lie,

    No the bible clearly states that we are to become Just like Him and we will be Heirs to ALL that he has.Thats what he as a father wishes for All his children.As you know not everyone is going to make it are they.You wont as you do not believe what the Bible and Christ clearly state.To become heirs with Christ.Simple.Its right ther in your bible 2cents

  • @jferristube The Bible indirectly says we will be like him one day. If the LDS church did not teach this principle, you and I would have read through the Bible without even noticing it.

  • @twocentsin4 and hows that?lol

  • @twocentsin4

    You really dont like us do you?LOL

    I think Im gonna go cry myself to sleep LOL

    Ya know what?

    I cant understand how so called christians like yoself can have so much bitterness towards LDS and other christian sects who use the same bible as you but perhaps just interpret the "Word" alittle differently than you.You show no christlike love or empathy to your poor misguided brothers and sisters.What is with that 2cents?

  • @twocentsin4 But, you ALSO believe in the book of Mormon, and you cling to it more for your "good feelings", "comfort",

    Tell me pls.How do you know the Bible is the word of god and not just a story book with good moral values.Like the Koran Torah or any other religion out ther?

    How do you know its true???

  • @twocentsin4

    And then???

    Get locked out did ya? LOL

  • @twocentsin4

    I like a dude with a sense of humor.Good for you

    Pack of Lies?

    Oh yes Ive heard that one many times and usually from people who lie cheat hate and make false unjustified accusations of their fellowmen.And funny thing is theyre usually born again evangelical or KKK Christians who think theyr better than everyone else and are saved in gods kingdom No matter what evil speaking lies and hypocracy spews from their mouths.

    Im sure your not one of those tho as You speak so nicely LOL

  • @twocentsin4

    believe what you may twocents All good.

    Yea go read it for yourself or not.Your choice

  • @twocentsin4 "we become " like God"

    Yes thats what Christ expects of us and in fact commands us in the bible to be perfect even as He is perfect.Just ike Him and the Father.That we may inherit all that he has.To literally become as they are.

    Do I get a planet when I die? Not quite how it works my frend.

    Heavenly father has said he has created Worlds without Number

    Am I gonna create my own universe? I dont think about it or feel a need to worry about it at this point in time.

    Why you ask?

  • @twocentsin4

    Yes one cannot serve 2 masters

  • @twocentsin4 No marriage has to be done in this life as the bible says.That is true without a doubt.Just like Baptism and receiving the HG is done here.

    If we're given the chanc in this life we must do it here.Marriage will Not be done IN heaven.God will NOT destroy the family in the next life.Marriage in christianity is till death only.LDS teach that marriag under gods authority continues after the grave into the next life for us as resurrected beings and that our families Can continue on

  • @twocentsin4 You are not a Jew or you would at the very least believe in the old testament.

    You do not know me and dont know whether I am Jew or Not.There are Many Jewish people who are LDS.

    LDS do believe the Old testament.I would suggest you find out more about what we believe before you judge and condemn.You cannot be Christian as you judge unrighteously and with prejudice.

    You think we are a cult then you are free to believe that.Fine by me

  • @twocentsin4 I do not exhault myself to "be like God" like you Mormons do.

    LDS do not think we are Like God.We do believe as the Bible teaches that Christ said.We can become Joint Heirs with Him(Christ) to sit with Him in His Kingdom.That as Christ promised.All that He has will be given to the faithful.Also Christ commanded us to be Perfect EVEN as He and the Father are Perfect.That we may all Become as THEY are.To Become just like they are is what the bible teaches and what we LDS believe

  • @twocentsin4 Jew, which you are not by by the way with your talk of Zion

    How do you know Im not jewish and where have I mentioned Zion.You guys just cant help yurselves.All good.LDS have never said we are the elect.Its you born agains who say that and you condemn all to hell all other christian sects that dont agree totally with what you believe.But thats okay bcos Christianity Is Indeed a house divided against yourselves.

  • @twocentsin4 That is where you Mormons are going

    Thank you for your good born again christian non judgmental Christlike comments.

  • i didnt hear anything about aliens

  • "Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time." (Revelation 12:12)

    God would not be making this statement if there were not other worlds with inhabitants on them. He's not talking about the angels either, because Satan was thrown out of heaven BY the angels. God is telling these that dwell in the heavens to rejoice.

  • I am not a Mormon, but the guy has a point. How selfish it is to think that we were the only ones created in the massive universe. God made other worlds out there have holy beings on them like humans. But these worlds did not fall into sin. They are would more properly be termed "unfallen worlds". They are not "alien" creatures. But "unfallen worlds". Revelation 12:12 alludes to this fact.

  • How boring it would be for the entire universe to be populated by selfish, violent cousins of apes. Sounds extremely bland to me. The true God of at least this one "verse" is One who provides beauty in variety.

  • The "apostle" looks a bit constipated. Needs more fiber in his diet.

  • we really aren't the only people in this world. you guys are just ignorant to what the bigger picture is.

  • This is batshit nonsense!

  • ok so if there's not life on other planets I suppose YOUR God just isn't powerful enough. Neal A. Maxwell was an Apostle.

  • @rambojoe2323 saying there is no life on other planets is not saying god isn't powerful enough. God just didn't do it, not because he couldn't but because he didn't see a reason to. the bible makes it clear that earth is the only planet with life, and the stars are given for navigation and to display god's almighty power in creating the heavens beautifully and precisely. it's like this, god could have made man a hundred feet tall, but he chose not to, not because he didn't have the power to

  • @IWantToKnowChrist That's great and all, but where's a scriptural reference? Taken out of context, the creation story could be taken to mean that we are at the center of the universe. The bible was written in a time of very little scientific knowledge of earth and the cosmos. The point is, if God's reach is eternal and all encompasing, wouldn't it only make sense that his creation, organization and life are eternal. It diminishes Gods glory to limit ALL his lifegiving to one tiny rock in space.

  • @rambojoe2323 look my friend, "let God be true, but every man a liar" Ro 3:4 "Canst thou by searching find out God? canst thou find out the Almighty unto perfection?" Job 11:7 .my dear friend, do not be mislead by things of the world and teachings of the world. nothing limits God, but he makes his own decisions, the lord chose to make one little tiny rock in space and put all life on it. if you believe in aliens and preexistence, read your bible, it's not true, nor is God (the father) a man

  • @IWantToKnowChrist In 2004 scientists pointed the Hubble toward a spot in space that appeared black, empty. That blackness was the size of a rice grain held at arm's length. They left the shutter open for 11 days. Within the image were 10,000 galaxies, each with hundreds of billions or stars (sometimes called suns). Ours, the Milky Way, is one of 100 billion (est) galaxies, & "IWantToKnow" says our Eternal (no end or beginning) Father waited billions of our years to populate ONLY this earth?

  • @IWantToKnowChrist Job 11:7 .my dear friend, do not be mislead by things of the world and teachings of the world

    LDS dont believe in aliens.We believe God has children on other planets he created just like this one.Those children on other planets look like you and me.Same image and likeness.

    The scriptures say he created Worlds without number.To say he only populated one with his children is but a teaching of man and not of god.SimpleTo say less is to deny God His Power Glory and Intelligence