WHO IS FOLLOWING TRUE ISLAM? YOU DECIDE (ISLAM AHMADIYYA)

[azrausa]

Who did the killing ?

[2010pices]

@2010pices UN should ban all religious parties across world whether they belong to any country . These are worse in collecting votes under the shelter of their so called democratic countries.

[shaqdaddymirza]

If you cannot respect my beliefs, atleast respect me as another human being. Didn't the Holy Prophet (saw) live side by side with the Jews, Christians, Idolaters?

[chaukange]

THE ENEMIES OF ISLAM ARE MUNNAFFIQ(HYPOCRITES), THESE AHMADI ARE ONE OF THEM, PROPHET MUHHAMMAD(SAW) LEFT US WITH QURAN AND HIS WAY OF LIFE, IF WE DIFFER ON ANYTHING WE SHOULD GO BACK TO QURAN OR HADITH NOT A CRAZYMAN FROM INDIA WHO CLAIMED TO BE PROPHET OR GOD.

[IslamAhmadiya]

@chaukange We are having a discussion under my other uploaded video "Religious Hardtalk Ahmadiyya". Kindly keep the discussion there and refrain from passing judgements on our faith. Leave that Judgement to Allah alone. Secondly, kindly refrain from using disrespectful language towards somebody who I believe to be Imam Mahdi and Promised Messiah. You say that we should follow Quran and his way of life. His way of life (hadith and sunnah) tell us about Imam Mahdi. We believe in him, u reject him

[AhmadiyyaMuslim786]

ASMAN SE ZAMEEN PAR KHUDA AEGA APNI GHERAT KE JALWE KO DIKHLAEGA HAR YEZIDI KIE KI SAZAA PAEGA YE LAHOO LAAZMAN APNA RANG LAEGA!!! InshAllah Talah Dushman ko Zulm Ki Barchi Se Tum Seenao Dil Barmane Do Ye DARD rahega ban ke DAWA,TUM SABAR KARO WAQT ANE DO! Ye Ishqo Wafaa ke kheet kabhi,khun seeche bageer na pampenge IS RAAH ME JAAN KI KYA PARWA JATI HAI AGR TO JANE DO!! MUSLIM JAAMT AHMADIYYA ZINDABAD! Shaheedane Lahor ZINDABAD! Shaheedane Indonesia ZINDABAD!!

[ahsan025080]

Allah Akbar

Allah Akbar

Allah Akbar

Allah Akbar

And these molvies can't stop the light of this sun.

[khuloododeh]

May Allah be with our Indonesian brothers and sisters and strengthen them over those who don't fear Allah. It's absurd to think of Muslims reacting like this, what about the peaceful teachings of the holy Quran? and the teachings of hazrat Khatem-ul-Anbiyaa peace and blessings of Allah be upon him?!

Allah Hafiz. Ahmadiayya Zindabad.

[RealSherKhan]

no man can ever stop Ahmadiyyat because Allah the Almighty is with us.Just wait and watch how Ahmadiyyat grows. if you consider yourself that you can stop Ahmadiyyat come and try, you will not succeed except you can only kill Ahmadi people but you cant even touch Ahmadiyyat.Ahmadiyyat Zindabad

[IAMMUSLIM13]

Ahmadiyyat Zindabad!

[mohammadahmad0790]

I choose Sunni Islam

[bowaters]

Ahmadiyya the best.

[sqaish]

ahmeddiya are the biggest fitna to muslims. there were created by the british to try and destroy islam

[IslamAhmadiya]

@sqaish Enemies of Islam call Islam as the biggest fitna humanity has ever faced God Forbid. Enemies of Islam also accused Holy Prophet (pbuh) of being an "agent" of surrounding tribes to conquer Mecca. The truth is that Holy Prophet is the biggest mercy of Allah to humanity and Islam is the cure for all the ills of society. In the same way the seed of Ahmadiyya has been sown by Allah Himself in this age to revive true teachings and essence of Islam. British & Ahmadiyya: /watch?v=zoTY7ScEwx8

[sqaish]

@IslamAhmadiya no, ur in dream land the prophet muhammed saw was the last prophet untill day of qiyaamat. ahmeddiya were misguided by the british. u need to listen and wake up , read the books of hadith and you will know and you will be saved from the hell fire.

[IslamAhmadiya]

@sqaish The Holy Prophet who said that he was the last prophet also declared the coming Messiah a Nabiullah (Prophet of Allah) four times in one single hadith of Muslim. Similarly, he also said this: Abu Bakr is the most exalted person AFTER me except if there happens to be a prophet. (Kanzul A'maal, vol. 9, p138) So don't change Islamic teachings for your own satisfaction. Prophethood within Islam under Holy Prophets subordination was prophesied by Holy Prophet himself. Watch the video again!

[sqaish]

@IslamAhmadiya no ur wrong the prohet said he was the last prophet. Esaa AS will come back to earth not as a prophet but a follower. Ahmediiya have false belief, they were created by the british and are government funded with tv channels and everything. You need to do your research and come on true islam.

[sqaish]

@IslamAhmadiya no it wsnt prophesised brother, u believe it like that, he pophet also prophesised liars being born, who will claim prophethood. Prophet muhammed SAW is the last messenger and no new prophets will come.

[IslamAhmadiya]

@sqaish What about this hadith then? Abu Bakr is the most exalted person AFTER me except if there happens to be a prophet. (Kanzul A'maal, vol. 9, p138) and this verse of Holy Quran: AND WHOSO OBEYS ALLAH AND THIS MESSENGER SHALL BE AMONG THOSE ON WHOM ALLAH HAS BESTOWED HIS BLESSINGS, VIZ: THE PROPHETS, THE TRUTHFUL, THE MARTYRS AND THE RIGHTEOUS, AND EXCELLENT COMPANIONS ARE THESE. (Quran 4:69/70)

Read Islam with taqwah and purity of heart. You will see nothing but wisdom in it.

[sqaish]

@IslamAhmadiya hadhrat abu bakr would have been a nabi if they was one. however they wasn't so he cnt be a nabi

[IslamAhmadiya]

@sqaish This is not what the hadith says. Let me type the hadith once more for you: "Abu Bakr is the most exalted person AFTER me except if there happens to be a prophet (in other words, Hadhrat Abu Bakr is the most exalted person in the ummah until a prophet is born in the ummah) (Kanzul A'maal, vol. 9, p138). You also didn't comment on the verse of Holy Quran that I quoted. For God's sake, become humble and read Quran and hadith with taqwah and fear of Allah.

[khuloododeh]

@sqaish "إذا رأيتموه فبايعوه ولو حبوا على الثلج فإنه خليفة الله المهدي ."

i.e, "If you see him, go and do Bai'at on His hand, even if you have to climb through mountains and mountains of snow and ice, for He is the Khalifa of Allah."

That's what Khatem-ul-Anbiya'a (pbuh) had said.

The deference between us Ahmadies and mainstream Muslims is that YOU are still waiting whereas we have started receiving the benefits and blessing of Bai'at and Khilafat.

[GENIEDA1NONLY]

@khuloododeh The Massiah will kill the swines and destroy the all the crosses!!! Swines and crosses are still here today. Fear Allah swt.and return back to Islam and expect the awaited Mahdi and Massiah who will come against the forerunners to the Dajjal and it is they who groomed you Kafirs!!!!

[khuloododeh]

@GENIEDA1NONLY You can continue waiting for that so called Mahdi that will go from country to country, from church to church and break the crosses, and will go and kill ALL the swines in the world, please!

Can't you see that Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad has broken the cross metaphorically by showing the true face of Christianity?!!! He has showed that Islam is the religion with his writings and debates. Try to look at it with pure eyes and pure heart and Allah will guide you to the right way.

[sqaish]

@IslamAhmadiya no brother u hvnt seen the reality u pik and choose the hadiths wot bwt the hadith about the liers which will be born and claim prophethood.

[IslamAhmadiya]

@sqaish Holy Prophet (pbuh) did foretell us about false prophets, but for the true Imam Mahdi and Promised Messiah, he foretold two great heavenly signs. Those two signs were fulfilled word by word for none other than Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as). Watch this video that I uploaded:

/watch?v=JXGCq78mxP8

Truth is shining like sun. Please don't close the windows of your heart. You will only deprive light of Allah from entering your heart. Everyone is answerable to Allah for their actions!

[pabloisthegreatest]

The chain of Messengers and Prophets has come to an end. There shall be no Messenger nor Prophet after me.

(Tirmidhi, Musnad Ahmad, Anas bin Malik)

[IslamAhmadiya]

@pabloisthegreatest Despite the above hadith, Holy Prophet (pbuh) also said the following: "Abu Bakr is the most exalted person AFTER me EXCEPT if there happens to be a PROPHET. (Kanzul A'maal, vol. 9, p138)

Prophet-hood outside the ummah of Holy Prophet is certainly ended but prophethood within Islam under Holy Prophet's subordination was prophecised by Holy Prophet himself. In one single hadith of Muslim, Holy Prophet declared the coming Messiah as Nabiullah (prophet of Allah) four times!

[pabloisthegreatest]

@IslamAhmadiya ONE dubious quote?

O people! Muhammad has no sons among ye men, but verily, he is the Apostle of God and the last in the line of Prophets. And God is Aware of everything.

Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Messenger of Allah, and the Seal of the Prophets: and Allah has full knowledge of all things.

(The Holy Quran, Al-Ahzab 33:40)

[pabloisthegreatest]

@IslamAhmadiya I am Muhammad, I am Ahmad, I am the effacer and infidelity shall be erased through me; I am the assembler. People shall be assembled on Doomsday after my time. And I am the last in the sense that no prophet shall succeed me.

(Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmidhi, Muatta')

[pabloisthegreatest]

@IslamAhmadiya No doubt you'll now most probably delete my comments and block me from leaving further comments on your videos. But I have this to say before you do:

I do not worship what you worship.

Nor are you worshippers of what I worship.

Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship.

Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship.

For you is your religion, and for me is my religion

[IslamAhmadiya]

@pabloisthegreatest So you don't worship Allah Almighty because I worship Allah. Does it also mean that you don't follow the religion of Islam because that is my religion. You said it, I am just repeating what you have said. Also I don't need to block anyone who doesn't act indecently, or in an abusive way here. If you discuss the issues with me humbly and in a decent way, I have no problem with it.

[pabloisthegreatest]

@IslamAhmadiya I follow Islam; the Quran and Sunnah of the last prophet and messenger of Allah (swt) and stay away from heresy, shirk, fitna and innovation (inshallah).

[RealSherKhan]

@pabloisthegreatest it means you do not worship Allah the Almighty because we ahmadis worship the one and only Allah,the god of Ibrahim(AS),Musa(AS),Isa(AS),H­azrat Muhammad(SAW) and Hzrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad(AS) the promised messiah and mahdi. when you will understand that the time of advent of promised messiah and mahdi has already passed and no one except Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad(AS) has claimed it with clear proofs.moreover the prophesies of his advent are also fulfilled. think upon it.

[attauls]

same to same Kuffar Makka 

[monumonu2007]

Christians cry for his divinity but here even his prophet-hood cannot be proved. Oh God! where can we go and mourn that three forecasts of Hazrat Issa alaih-issalam were blatant lies. (Ijaz-e-Ahmadi14 RK121).my dear ahmadi brothers/sisters ur leaders have misguided u.wht they teach is not islam its mirzaism.they r filthy rich people coz of ur money(chanda).wht these guys did here is also NOT ISLAMIC its devilish to kill someone but again this is not islam islam is peaceful.mirza was not right 2.

[KhadimeSultanUlQalm]

@monumonu2007

Do you evern read Quran? why is Islam Ahmadiyya not Islam? can you prove?

[monumonu2007]

@KhadimeSultanUlQalm pls read my comments on this page.if u want to know more then answer my questions then u will understand.Q. no.1-where is the grave of jesus pbuh according to ur jamaat, is it al khaleeli, is it al quds or is it kashmir.if u mention any 1 then y did mirza write the other 2.

[IslamAhmadiya]

@monumonu2007 I will answer your question with this counter question, if you can answer this one then I will answer your question. Holy Prophet in one hadith instructed his followers very clearly NOT to declare his superiority over Prophet Moses (as). In other places he claimed to be the Best of prophets and the master of all the prophets. Answer this question and then I will answer yours.

[IslamAhmadiya]

@monumonu2007 Answer my counter question, Is Holy Prophet (pbuh) superior to Moses (as) or NOT? If he is then what about the hadith that instructed his followers not to claim that, and if the answer is no, then what about Quranic verses and other ahadith that clearly show his superiority over all other prophets? 

[KhadimeSultanUlQalm]

@monumonu2007

No I dont need your out of context mixed up copy paste interpretations..You dont have any argument from quran and sunnah...

if you have, come and present.

[monumonu2007]

@KhadimeSultanUlQalm so r u telling me this COPY PASTE is wrong/lie.can u prove my copy paste is misquoted or mirza didnt write them?wht do u want to know abt quran/hadith abtt isa as or muhammad pbuh or about ALLAH.pls tell me n stick to one topic then we ll talk.but pls tell me if ive misquoted.

[salmaanahmed1]

@monumonu2007 No, its not like that... we know where the money goes... many works are being done... simplest example MTA International 24/7.. taking no ads or any thing else.. if you think it a simple thing.. Many Wealthy Muslim states failed and are unable to start any on full Islamic Channel which we did 20 years before.. Thousands of Mosques are Built... Many Mission Houses are Running... Humanity First working world wide... Only Jama'at funding it.. . There are hundreds of other examples...

[monumonu2007]

@salmaanahmed1 wow can u also pls tell me more about ur jamaat like where did jesus die n what is ur present population n from where did mirza tahir get 8 million pounds to gift to his daughters, n where r these "thousands of mosques".how much money did mirza ghulam ahmad had in 1880 n how much was it in 1904 n from where did he get that money from.thank u.

[salmaanahmed1]

@monumonu2007 Jesus (peace be upon him) survived the crucifixion and travelled towards India to continue his ministry among the Lost Tribes of Israel. Furthermore, we claim that his tomb, containing his body, has been recently re-discovered in India where it can be seen to this day. Ahmadi Muslims also assert that this belief is not only upheld by the Holy Quran and the Sayings of Muhammad sa, but even by the Holy Bible itself.

[monumonu2007]

@salmaanahmed1 is it there in the bible n quran can u pls tell me where?one more thing if according to mirza its kashmir then y did he also say al quds n al khalili.most importantly y didnt he give any credit to sir syed coz he was the first person to write abt it b4 mirza(20 years).HEY BRO. DID U KNOW THE CONTEXT OF "THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL".i mean in wht context is it written in the bible coz i know this is THE MOST famous biblical verse in ur jamaat.

[salmaanahmed1]

@monumonu2007

Jesus, peace be on him, was not sent as a Universal Guide. Jesus was the Messiah of the Israelites, and he proclaimed in clear-cut words: "I am not sent but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel" (Matt 15:24). The term "lost" can be taken in two ways, literal and metaphorical. It can therefore be applied to the lost tribes metaphorically, but literally as well. For centuries, they had been away from the Holy Land.

[monumonu2007]

@salmaanahmed1 u didnt answer my questions my friend(kashmir al quds khalili).but anyways reg. jesus as issue u need to know quran atleast a little bit buddy."neither did they killed him nor CRUCIFIED him" so there ends ur case of him being crucified then getting healed with MARHAM E ISA n all that mirza created.reg. ur other point u now need to know the bible n in bible if u read the context u will know that it only means 'gone astray' when "lost" is mentioned.it never says gone literally.

[salmaanahmed1]

@monumonu2007

ok than you tell me what had happened........

what do you believe...

[salmaanahmed1]

@monumonu2007

Hazrat Issa AS died natural death and his tomb is located in the Khanyar Street of the city of Srinagar where it can still be visited.

ok, if you say that He was not crucified...

and yet alive in the heavens...

Proof it...

where do you understand it from...

[salmaanahmed1]

@monumonu2007

i again n repeatedly am telling you dont talk without any reference,

where he did it...

first proof where he said it than think why he said it..

or if you dont understand y he did ??

let me know ill make you understand...

[salmaanahmed1]

@monumonu2007

this is how he was made ibne maryam in steps...

as you said.. w w w.youtube.com/watch?v=BLXT_oWd­uxY

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youll get to know everything in detail..

[salmaanahmed1]

@monumonu2007

No wonder, Jesus enjoined his disciples to "Go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel" (Matt 10:6). Jesus even foretold that he would go in search of those who were lost from the Israelites and would find them.

He says "And other sheep I have which are not of this fold, them also I must bring and they shall hear my voice" (John 10:16).

[salmaanahmed1]

@monumonu2007

As, according to his aforesaid statement he was sent to the Israelites only, these other sheep, not belonging to the Palestinian Jews therefore were from the lost ten tribes dispersed in other countries. A similar conclusion can be drawn from another saying of Jesus: "A prophet is not without honor save in his own country" (Matt 13:57).

[salmaanahmed1]

@monumonu2007

And by the help of Quran, Hadis and Bible it can easily be proven that Hazrat Issa is no longer alive and is dead as anybody dies in this world

"And for you there is an abode on the earth and a provision for a time, He said, therein shall you live and therein shall you die and therefrom shall you be brought forth." ( 7:25-6)

"Have we not made the earth so as to hold the living and the dead?" (77:26-7)

Please talk with the reference...

dont just throw the things in air...

[IslamAhmadiya]

@monumonu2007 I won't allow you to spread your false and deceiving propaganda against Promised Messiah and his writings in the way you are doing. I told you earlier that take things one by one, don't just keep copying pasting out of context material from anti-Ahmadiyya websites here. If you are truthful, discuss things one by one. You didn't answer my previous question. Why did Holy Prophet say to his followers NOT to claim his superior over Moses, but later he explained his superiority over all

[salmaanahmed1]

@monumonu2007

" As of 2009, the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community has built over 15,055 mosques,[1] 510 schools, and over 30 hospitals.[2][3] The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is established in 195 countries of the world.[4] "

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This is the official report by the wikipedia and mind it that its the report of 2 years before

you can check it on wikipedia....

an article named

List of Ahmadiyya Muslim Community buildings and structures

and we did much more in these 2 years also..

[monumonu2007]

@salmaanahmed1 my friend u didnt tell me ur population u didnt tell me as to from where mirza tahir got 8 million pounds to gift to his daughters n where r these thousands of mosques.n for the question HOW MUCH MONEY DID MIRZA HAVE IN 1880 N HOW MUCH DID HE HAVE IN 1904 u told me he made like mohammad pbuh.but as far as i know prophet mohammad pbuhs wife aisha ra had to borrow little oil to light the lamp when the prophet was leaving this world.but mirza had 300000 from 10000 how come its same?

[salmaanahmed1]

@monumonu2007

Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad AS got the money through the same means from where Holy Prophet SAW got,

our jama'at have many inspired from Hazrat Usman RA who bring half of their belongings to the Imam Mehdi, The NabiUllah,

We also have Abu-Bakar AS who give all of their belongings in the way of Allah, serving humanity and mankind...

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You are throwing the same allegations to us which were put forward to the Hazrat Muhammad SAW by the Kuffars...

Matching us With our Beloved Prophet.

[monumonu2007]

@salmaanahmed1 oh did the prophet saw had these allegations abt money i didnt know that.so u r telling me that he used to take chanda n sold behishti maqbara n sold books at exorbitant prices n stole money from langar n made jewellery to his wives n made money like from 10000 to 300000 by taking money from poor people n when people asked their money they got the reply that i owe no money to anyone i spent it.wow wow i didnt know that u guys think this abt prophet mohammad pbuh.

[salmaanahmed1]

In a book written by a christian, Iain Adamson

he writes about Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in these words

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Occasionally another visitor, called Hafiz Mo'in-ud-Din, was there and Ahmad would ask Mirza Din Muhammad to obtain a meal for him. When Hafiz was finishing Ahmad would often ask him if he would like some more.

'Than Ahmad would give him his own portion also and sometimes mine as well,' said Din Muhammad.

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How could you blame this person for being greedy...

And bro talk with reference.

[salmaanahmed1]

@monumonu2007 Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani, Messih Maud AS never said himself better than the Holy Prophet SAW naouzbillah... which you people say, . And by the way, what do you people believe.. when ummat e Muhammadiyya will be in danger, no Muhammadi will rise, none from this Khere Ummat, which is referred to Ummat of Muhammad in Quran, but an outsider will come to help the best ones, Naouzbillah... the one who used to teach bible will teach Quran, Open your eyes and minds please...

[monumonu2007]

In any case, the mesmerism of Maseeh was a special case according to the time of his advent. However, it must be remembered that this practice is not as respectable as it is deemed by the public. If this humble one had not regarded this practice as hateful and detestable, I had strong hope from the Grace of God Almighty that I would not have been inferior to Maseeh, in showing strange practices.RK 257

[IslamAhmadiya]

@monumonu2007 As I said earlier, which topic you truly want to discuss first. We will take things one by one. I won't allow you to spread your Mullahs' false propaganda in this unIslamic way. If you have the courage, discuss things with me in a rational and honest way. I don't like wasting my time and energies in responding to just made up allegations. So I give you a chance. Come with one "quote" of your "liking" from the writing of Promised Messiah and we will discuss it in detail.

[monumonu2007]

@IslamAhmadiya lets start with ur 4th condition of baith ok.WHAT IS IT/ WHAT WAS THE OLD ONE/ WHO CHANGED IT/ WHY WAS IT CHANGED AND WHO AUTHORISED HIM TO CHANGE.

[IslamAhmadiya]

@monumonu2007 Amazing that you didn't choose a "quote" from your previous comments under this video. Maybe you already know the hollow nature of your arguments. Anyway, in response to your latest allegation, you have brought the issue, so why don't you answer all these questions yourself? What was the "previous" 4th condition that apparently got changed? Just before you say anything, let me remind you British people are creation of God too. Now you can bring your proof.

[monumonu2007]

@IslamAhmadiya U R A SMART GUY.ALL THE QUOTATIONS I GAVE U R NOT ENOUGH N U TELL ME THAT MY ARGUEMENTS R HOLLOW, FINE, NO PROBS BRO..NOW U WANT THE QUOTE FROM MY SIDE, NO PROB AGAIN.ANYWAY SO HERE IT IS SIR......"AND AS I HAVE EARLIER INSTRUCTED IN THE 4TH CONDITION OF INITIATION TO PRACTICE TRUE WELL WISHING OF THE ENGLISH GOVT AND TRUE SYMPATHY OF THE HUMANITY".ROOHANI KHAZAIN VOL.13 PAGE 13.who changed it n y above all wht made mirza write THIS 4th condition.i want u to think abt it.

[IslamAhmadiya]

@monumonu2007 I knew already what were you coming up with and this is the reason why I tried to explain to you already that British/English people are God's creation too. Now the 4th condition of Bait by Promised Messiah instructs us to be sympathisers of God's creation (humanigy) in general (it includes the govt. we are under) and Muslims in particular. So Promised Messiah only explained this condition in detail here. It is the inference we get from that condition. You have no argument!

[monumonu2007]

@IslamAhmadiya my question is what was the 4th condition n who n y was it changed who gave the authority to change mirzas(ur nabis) condition.isnt it simple my friend.ofcourse british r humans like us but when they were in india they were tyrants.they just had experienced SEPOY MUTINY n though they won against the muslims but they knew the muslims may come back so they wanted to create differences so that they can devide n rule.but my friend my question remains WHO CHANGED THE 4TH CONDITION N Y.

[IslamAhmadiya]

@monumonu2007 You are not reading my comments, are you? There is no change anywhere. Promised Messiah (as) gave the reference of 4th condition and explained it in the context of his topic that he was discussing there! The truth of the matter is that under English rule, Indians (Muslims or hindus) were free to practice and preach their faith. This was acknowledged by many non-Ahmadi scholars of the time, watch this: alislam . o r g/books/truth/british . h t m l

For once be honest!

[monumonu2007]

@IslamAhmadiya NOT ONLY THIS BUT U ALSO KNOW WHAT MIRZA TOLD ABT OUR PROPHETS/SAHABA/ALLAH/QURAN/AB­U HURAIRA RA/HUSSAIN RA/BUKHARI RA/ISA AS/ETC.ETC.I CAN UNDERSTAND ITS HARD TO THINK OUT OF UR CULT FOR U GUYS.ALL I WANT U TO DO IS THINK INSTEAD OF DEFENDING MIRZA N HIS FAMILY'S MONEY MAKING SCHEMES.THANK U BROTHER.(may b u dont like me calling u brother coz according to u guys we(muslims) r kafir.sorry if ur hurt ).

[monumonu2007]

@monumonu2007 WHAT IS UR 4TH CONDITION OF BAITH CAN U PRINT IT HERE FOR US PLS.AFTER U PRINT IT PLS LET US KNOW WHO CHANGED IT N Y WAS UR NABIS CONDITION CHANGED.my question still remains.WHO N Y.after we r done with this we can go forward to mirzas claims, predictions, mohammadi begum, jesus as in detail(starting from how mirza became maryam then ibne maryam), how ALLAH uses blood as his ink , his first wife, his sons, his knowledge about prophet saw, his superiority over the prophet saw etc.

[monumonu2007]

@IslamAhmadiya thank u for giving me the chance but my friend which of all the quotations did u answer?NONE.i gave u so many n can give 100 times more tahn what i already did but its u who is not answering me.in the begining i asked u how come he said such n such things abt jesus pbuh ur answer was he was replying to christians(whom he hated the most LOVE FOR ALL HATRED FOR NONE).if he was answering to christians how come he can make up stories on his own n how come he can use filthy language.

[monumonu2007]

Allah talked to Musa at the rock and Satan talked to Issa at the rock. So look at the difference between the two if you have the ability to differentiate Nur-ul-Haq 50, RK 68.Stop speaking about the Son of Mary, superior to him is Ghulam Ahmad.Dafi' ul-Bala 24, RK 240Show us any faction of morals of maseeh he is totally deprived of morals.Even a yogi can claim to tame the desires but without proofs. Maseeh did not show even the courage equivalent to Imam Hussain alaihissalam. (Mulfoozat V4 107)

[IslamAhmadiya]

@monumonu2007 Hold your horses, and lets take things one by one. It is very easy to copy and paste things out of context from anywhere and then give it your own meanings and interpretations. Your Mullahs are masters of deceit and forgery, so don't act like them. If you are truly Muslim, then act like a Muslim and discuss things with rationality, honesty and taqwah.

[salmaanahmed1]

@monumonu2007

Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani was the Same Imam Mehdi who was foretold by the Prophet Muhammad SAW.

From your point of view..

If Imam Mehdi comes and claims himself to be better than any Prophet, would you throw an allegation onto it..

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Even your people say...

(شیعہ مجتہد سید علی الحائری: (۱۲۸۸ھ تا ۱۳۶۰ھ

”حضرت امام مہدی علیہ السلام کی حضرت مسیح ؑپر افضلیت واضح اور ثابت ہے۔“(غایة المقصود جلد نمبر۲ صفحہ۳۸۔ از مولوی سید علی حائری مطبع شمس الہند لاہور)

[monumonu2007]

@salmaanahmed1 100% yes. we would reject anyone saying that he is better than prophet mohammad pbuh.thats one of the major reasons y we rejected mirza.mirza said mohammad agar dekhna ho AKMAL to dekho qadian main.he also said him mirzcles were 3000 n mine r 300000 n this..."And God chose such a despicable site to bury the Holy Prophet(pbuh) which is extremely stinking and dark and cramped and was the site of the excreta of insects."(Footnote, Tohfa-Golravia, Roohany Khazaen, Vol.17, P. 205)etc.

[salmaanahmed1]

”جب امام مہدی آئے گا تو یہ اعلان کرے گا کہ اے لوگو! اگر تم میں سے کوئی ابراہیم ؑ اور اسمعٰیل ؑ کو دیکھنا چاہتا ہے تو سن لے کہ میں ہی ابراہیمؑ اور اسمعٰیل ؑ ہوں۔ اور اگر تم میں سے کوئی موسیٰؑ اور یوشع کو دیکھنا چاہتا ہے تو سن لے کہ میں ہی موسیٰؑ اور یوشع ہوں۔ اور اگر تم میں سے کوئی عیسیٰ ؑاور شمعون کو دیکھنا چاہتا ہے تو سن لے کہ عیسیٰ ؑاور شمعون میں ہی ہوں۔ اور اگر تم میں سے کوئی محمد مصطفی ﷺاور امیرالمؤمنین (علیؓ) کو دیکھنا چاہتا "ہے تو سن لے کہ محمد مصطفی ﷺ اور امیرالمؤمنین میں ہی ہوں۔

BUKHARI

[salmaanahmed1]

@monumonu2007

حضرت امام عبدالرزاق قاشانی ؒ: (وفات ۷۳۰ھ)

”آخری زمانہ میں جو امام مہدی آئیں گے وہ احکامِ شریعت میں آنحضرت صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کے تابع ہوں گے اور معارف و علوم اور حقیقت میں آپ کے سوا تمام انبیاءاور اولیاءان کے تابع ہوں گے۔ اور یہ بات ہمارے مذکورہ بیان کے خلاف نہیں ہے۔ کیونکہ امام مہدی کا باطن حضرت محمد مصطفی صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کا باطن ہو گا۔“(شرح فصوص الحکم مطبع مصطفی البابی الجلی صفحہ۴۲۔۴۳ )

[salmaanahmed1]

@monumonu2007

عارف ربّانی محبوب سجانی سیّد عبدالکریم جیلانیؒ: (۷۶۷ھ تا۸۳۷ھ)

”اس (امام مہدی....ناقل) سے مراد وہ شخص ہے جو صاحبِ مقام محمدی ہے۔ اور ہر کمال کی بلندی میں کامل اعتدال رکھتا ہے۔“ (انسان کامل (اُردو) باب نمبر۶۱ مہدی ؑکا ذکر صفحہ ۳۷۵ نفیس اکیڈمی کراچی)

[salmaanahmed1]

@monumonu2007

How many people will you reject ???

Will you reject your own Imams ???

Why dont you put the fatwa of Kuffar on Them ???

حضرت ملاعبدالرحمن جامی: (۸۱۷ھ تا ۸۹۸ھ)

”حضرت نبی کریم ﷺ کا مشکوٰة باطن ہی محمدی ولایت خاصّہ ہے اور وہی بجنسہ خاتم الاولیاءحضرت امام مہدی علیہ السلام کا مشکوٰة باطن ہے کیونکہ امام موصوف آنحضرت ﷺ کے ہی مظہر کامل ہیں۔“ (شرح فصوص الحکم ہندی از حضرت ملا عبدالرحمن جامی صفحہ۶۹ )

[salmaanahmed1]

@monumonu2007

was he a Kafir ??

حضرت شاہ ولی اللہ محدث دہلوی: (۱۱۱۴ھ تا ۱۱۷۵ھ)

”اُمت محمدیہ میں آنے والے مسیح موعود کا یہ حق ہے کہ اس میں سیدالمرسلین ﷺکے انوار کا انعکاس ہو عامة الناس یہ گمان کرتے ہیں کہ جب وہ موعود دنیا میں آئے گا تو اس کی حیثیت محض ایک امتی کی ہو گی۔ ایسا ہرگز نہیں بلکہ وہ تو اسم جامع محمدی کی پوری تشریح ہو گا۔ اور اسی کا دوسرا نسخہ (TRUE COPY) ہو گا۔ پس اس کے اور ایک عام امتی کے درمیان بہت بڑا فرق ہے“۔ (الخیر الکثیراز حضرت شاہ ولی اللہ محدث دہلوی صفحہ ۷۲-مدینہ پریس بجنور )

[monumonu2007]

@salmaanahmed1 im sorry my friend my mother tongue is urdu but i cant read it.i can read english/telugu/hindi.so u didnt tell me y 3 different grave yards for isa as(everything is ur rel. is evolved nothing is straight forward, grave yard is evolved (3 places)mirza is evolved from debator to mujaddid then muhaddis then maseel e masih to mehdi to zilli to buruzi to haqiqui nabi to krishna to rudra pratap to rasul to isa to mohammad to divinity(divinity though in dream but yes divinity too).

[salmaanahmed1]

@monumonu2007

شیخ محمد اکرم صابری: (۱۱۳۰ھ)

”یعنی وہ محمد ﷺہی تھے۔جنہوں نے آدم کی صورت میں دنیا کی ابتدا میں ظہور فرمایا یعنی ابتدائے عالم میں محمد مصطفی ﷺکی روحانیت بروز کے طور پر حضرت آدم میں ظاہر ہوئی اور محمد ﷺہی ہونگے جو آخری زمانہ میں خاتم الولایت امام مہدی کی شکل میں ظاہر ہونگے یعنی محمد مصطفی ﷺکی روحانیت مہدی میں ظہور اور بروز کرے گی“۔ (اقتباس الانوار از شیخ محمد اکرم صابری۔ صفحہ۵۲)

[salmaanahmed1]

@monumonu2007

Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad RA said...

ہمارے مذہب کا خلاصہ اور لب لباب یہ ہے کہ لا الہ الا للہ محمدرسول اللہ ہمارا اعتقاد جو ہم اس دنیوی زندگی میں رکھتے ہیں جس کے ساتھ ہم بفضل و توفیق باری تعالیٰ اس عالم گذران سے کوچ کریں گے یہ ہے کہ حضرت سیدنا و مولانا محمدمصطفی ﷺ خاتم النبین و خیرالمرسلین ہیں جن کے ہاتھ سے اکمال دین ہو چکا۔۔۔۔ اور ہم پختہ یقین کے ساتھ اس بات پر ایمان رکھتے ہیں کہ قرآن شریف خاتم کتب سماوی ہے ۔ (ازالہ و اوہام صفحہ 69)

[salmaanahmed1]

@monumonu2007

There are many other examples..

i am just telling you few of them...

صراط مستقیم فقط دین اسلام ہے اور اب آسمان کے نیچے فقط ایک ہی نبی اور ایک ہی کتاب ہے یعنی حضرت محمد مصطفی ﷺ جو اعلیٰ و افضل سب نبیوں سے اور اتم و اکمل سب رسولوں سے اور خاتم الانبیاء اور خیرالناس ہیں ۔جن کی پیروی سے خدائے تعالیٰ ملتا ہے اور ظلماتی پردے اٹھتے ہیں ۔ اور اسی جہان میں سچی نجات کے آثار نمایا ں ہوتے ہیں اور قرآن شریف سچی اور کامل ہدایتوں اور تاثیروں پر مشتمل ہے ۔ (براہین احمدیہ جلد 4صفحہ557)

[monumonu2007]

@salmaanahmed1 today i read abt bahaullah believe me my friend i find no difference in mirza n baha both had similar claims.my brother im not saying come to my jamaat coz i dont have any.just read n examine mirzas books there r so many mistake/contradictions.ur books r full of I AM MEHDI I AM MASIH I AM NABI etc. n nothing else.read non ahmadiyya stuff with discritical eyes u will understand.im also from a deviant sect (sufi)but there is no jamaat in islam we r JUST muslim w/no suffix or prefix.

[salmaanahmed1]

@monumonu2007 The reference you have given, just read a sentence before it and after it ... it will make all clear... . Just a failure finding a mistake... . Its not what we say, its your belief... that when Hazrat Issa AS were to be hanged on cross, Allah Almighty took him up in the heavens with angels and on the Other hand Muhammad SAW were tortured the most but Allah never raised him up.. but he died.. and was burried into a grave(comparison of grave and heaven is done, are they the same ??)

[monumonu2007]

@salmaanahmed1 Qur'an, sura 4 (An-Nisa) ayat 157-158[1]...here its clearly mentioned that isa as was was nor killed NOR CRUCIFIED.this verse also says who do not believe in this r full of conjucture.ur argument dies here bro.ur belief is that he was CRUCIFIED but escaped death....ok reg. grave n heaven u need to know that any miracle done by any prophet is not his.its ALLAH who is doing the job.these were the small twists people like mirza, bahaullah, rashad, druz, musailma etc tried.

[salmaanahmed1]

@monumonu2007 This is your belief, and according to your belief... i raise you some questions... . Whome Allah Almighty Loved the Most ??? Whome He gave the more respect ??? whome He gave a chance to come again ??? Whome He thaught was much successful person and could bring the Imaan back ??? . . What we claim is that, if Allah had to raise someone alive into the havens, there was nobody capable of it other than Muhammad SAW, Best of the Prophets.

[monumonu2007]

@salmaanahmed1 my questions r still unanswered.u tried to justify but the 4th condition was changed by mirza mahmood.assending to heaven or parting the sea doesnt make a prophet greater or lesser it completely depends on allah n he has no prob in doing these things(u just need to understand that),its just impossible for YALLASH, OCTOPUS, WHITE MAN whose arms r around mirza OR THE GOD WHO TAKES REST OR WHO SLEEPS OR WHO MISTAKES OR CHEETAH OR WHOS SON IS MIRZA OR WHO USES BLOOD AS INK.think pls.

[monumonu2007]

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[monumonu2007]

IM AGAINST PERSECUTION.i also feel bad about the families of the three dead.they shouldnt have killed.its bad.its sad.i read ahmadiyya literature, i was shocked to see what they believe in.they believe in a new prophet and that prophet has belittled/insulted/badmouthed almost all of our prophets.insulted our god.ill give u quotes u can understand.BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE AHMADIES MUST BE PERSECUTED.they just dont know mirza ghulam was wrong.v must teach them the truth by communicating

[IslamAhmadiya]

@monumonu2007 Don't act like the enemies of Islam who when can't answer with rationality, come with out of the context quotes from Quran and hadith to give a complete opposite picture to what Islam really teaches. The truth is that you are blinded by the prejudice and ignorance spread by your Mullahs against Jamaat Ahmadiyya in Islam. They have already lost the battle of rationality, so they have adopted the course of deception, falsehood and fraud.

[FjordHawk]

May Allah be with them!

May Allah punish the perpetrators!

May Allah keep shut the mouths that lie and forge!

May Allah be with the Ahmadi Muslims in Indonesia!

If these mockers and rigid extremists do not come round they must get a decisive Tsunami.

[monumonu2007]

@FjordHawk Don't you know that Manliness and Virility are praiseworthy attributes of men. Being eunuch is not a commendable quality just as being deaf and dumb are not commendable. Yes, this objection is indeed very great, that Hazrat Maseeh alaihis-salam being completely deprived of manhood could not leave a practical example of a perfect and upright social life with his wives. (Nur-ul-Quran 17-18, RK 392-393).BROTHER THIS IS NOT ISLAM U CAN NOT INSULT JESUS PBUH.pls consider this.

[khan6915]

May Allah protect all Ahmadi Muslims all over the world from these so-called peace loving Muslims.

[monumonu2007]

@khan6915 Christians cry for his divinity but here even his prophet-hood cannot be proved. Oh God! where can we go and mourn that three forecasts of Hazrat Issa alaih-issalam were blatant LIES. (Ijaz-e-Ahmadi 14, RK 121)