@GorramT from what i hear im guessing that its about god telling his people that they've forsaken him. hence the "jesus was an only son for you" and "tell me im the only one"
Highly polished Studiosoundfreaks vs. Raw Energetic but Controled on the Outside ...
No Song represents the Band like this one, cause the Lyrics seem to be to apropriate for Billys innermost Feelings. And i can understand him so well ...
Are you kidding me? His motions, body language, and facial expressions are almost identical to a video from the MCIS era, only his uniform has changed. He doesn't really move much, hes always been clingy to his mic.
Have you ever even been to a Pumpkins concert?? Besides, just because they're not doing their absolute best every show doesn't mean they suck. Can you imagine playing every night and giving it your all constantly.
Yeah, I've seen them live. They were fairly average really, this is about as good as it got.
Unenthusiastic and frankly, a little sloppy.
I think it's perfectly fair to criticize them for not doing their absolute best. It's what the audience is paying them for. Essentially it's their job, so thier lack of substance is a problem.
If an engineer didn't do his best - you'd be the first to complain when his bridge collapsed.
In my opinion, all of Mellon Collie is monotonous, but in a good way. I know it's weird, but that's how i feel about it. It's powerful in sound, depressing in energy. I think Billy does an awesome job of expressing the energy in a particular song, and he does the energy of this one exactly how the instrumentation expresses, low key, but with energy. Watch Gossamer and say he doesn't have energy. Or Heavy Metal Machine. Or Glass and the Ghost Children. Or They Only Come Out at Night.
what the hell do you mean by that? they're not puppies. they just play live music. thats what the people should be there for. to be there, witness the moment and rock.
nope, shaved it cause he was losing his hair, he shaved during Mellon Collie where they were really big, after that his mother dies so that changed him im guessing, but what the hell do i know
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you are a fucking idiot, Billy wrote everything on the fucking pumpkins' albums, and he recorded everything. James might have recorded some but d'arcy didnt record for shit.
oh please d'arcy was a mediocre bass-player just as ginger everyone who knows something about music knows that. And BTW the bass was never important in SP's songs. This version is awesome and Billy's voice is better than ever
The bass is a driving force in a lot of the pumpkins' songs. Ava Adore, I Am One, Crush, Blue, Drown, plenty. Don't write of the instrument just because in the majority of the songs it's not difficult to play.
regerring to the comment below, but now she's living out of the public eye, i heard she's into horses now? i know that she did show one for real. kind of a change but hey, if that's what she wants.
Billy old and sad? He has always been a bit gloomy and mellon collie, but old he is not. That scream after the "quiet" section of the song (the arpeggio one) where he literally screams his lungs out, shows that billy still got that fire burning. Man, that power...
sorry but i must say it... this performance of BWBW is lacking hugely compared to the venom and rage of the MCIS era. it makes me miss the old times. billy seems kind of old and sad now.
as for james, i thought his e-bow guitar sounds contributed a whole lot to "adore." that was him playing that stuff, right?
have you ever seen Billy Corgan happy on stage ???? he actually smiles at the beginning of today and at the end of Gossamer, so I guess he is happier than ever !!!!
That is just ridiculous. Whether a person is happy or not has nothing to do with talent level or ability to create a good song. There are plenty of artists who create excellent songs who are all happy. Tell me, how many songs have you ever released you judgemental dick?
relax you pigfucker. I'm just saying what I've noticed from my own experience...look at all the greats, hendrix, kurt cobain, etc - all were diagnosed manic depressives.
happy people make good music too, but none of them are 'exceptionally' good, like these true greats.
Billy IS the Smashing Pumpkins. Okay, on Mellon Collie, out of the 28 songs chosen for album, 26 of those were Billy's, while James had 1 - the other song was made by both Billy and James.
Adore - Darcy stated that it was practically a Billy Corgan solo album. So sadly, the other band members didn't contribute too much, mainly because Billy wouldn't let them. And that's why he's known as a tyrant, bless him.
I don't think so at all. Jimmy's drums are what made me love this band. He's definitely the most talented musician in the band. While the music he writes is catchy and makes great songs, Billy doesn't write difficult-to-play music. On the other hand, Jimmy's drumming puts the majority of his songs fairly high up on the scale of difficulty.
...Billy has finally caught on to the fact he can only make it by calling his new band The Smashing Pumpkins, in other words by riding on the Pumpkins name and history.
I think James is the missing link to the chemistry of the old Pumpkins and without him the new Pumpkins is dead.
Smashing Pumpkins without James just isn't the Smashing Pumpkins. It's just another stupid band Billy has put together in a desperate attempt to recreate what he once had. The only difference with this venture and his past failed ventures is that
Hate to tell you but Iha is a pantywaste in comparison to Jeff Schroeder. Listen to his work on The Violet Burning's 1996 self titled. It kicks about 1000 distinct brands of ass. The only problem with the new incarnation of the Pumpkins is that Billy didn't have him play on the record.
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It wouldn't have made the slightest bit of difference if Jeff had played on the album because it's the writing and composition that sucks ass on Zeitgiest, not the rythm guitar playing.
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i don't like the new pumpkins. They're morphing into queer pop and trying to become too commercial for my liking. I only watch these videos to look for their old stuff.
no i know that, but its different than the recorded one. i dont like the tempo change, and the loss of the beginning guitar part. smashing pumpkins still whip serious anuz.
As good as this is, his singing is suspiciously even. I'll bet anything that all his crooning and screaming on the Mellon Collie tour did long-lasting damage.
Excuse me zwaen0 are you missing something einstein eyes, the pumpkins are back. Its not some horrible transvestite impersonator, its billy you muppet!!!.
Jimmy Chamberlain is a fucking monster on those drums!
robbiedigital79 6 months ago
6 PEOPLE ARE STILL RATS IN A CAGE!!!
DasKarla 6 months ago in playlist BEST LIVE PERFORMANCES
that scream gave me a stiffy
GreggleZz 6 months ago
How I love the bass line.
SoulPearls 7 months ago
what the fuck is that dress
SPARKYDADARKY 1 year ago
he has a shade on his head, and sometimes it looks like he has a mohawk. xD
FilipeRibeiro7 1 year ago
HE SCREAMED!!!! YESSSSS!!!!!!!
GorramT 1 year ago 8
@GorramT from what i hear im guessing that its about god telling his people that they've forsaken him. hence the "jesus was an only son for you" and "tell me im the only one"
techy75 1 year ago
@techy75 i think you meant to type ChainChomp122 cuz i know what the songs aboot.
GorramT 1 year ago
@techy75 you're right. sorry to bother
techy75 1 year ago
i dont get the lyrics, the world is a vampire, i used to think it was the world is of empire :P
ChainChomp122 1 year ago
no anger nacho??
i think u didnt listen to his scream after the soft part.
Good point about the energy rohio. I like the new energylevel from 'bring the lights' tough. It's another one, but uplifting.
janjongleer 2 years ago
Holy rushing... Cherub Rock from the same show was the same way.
kbernardp 2 years ago
amazing ... SP was always aband with 2 faces:
Highly polished Studiosoundfreaks vs. Raw Energetic but Controled on the Outside ...
No Song represents the Band like this one, cause the Lyrics seem to be to apropriate for Billys innermost Feelings. And i can understand him so well ...
Bettie36 2 years ago 6
Rightfully so, especially since shit hasn't and most likely won't change since then
...
and what is lost can never be saved
Invidente7 2 years ago
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i think that what really lacks of this show is the anger and the "teen spirit" they had back in the old times...
still great band
nachog07 2 years ago
Are you kidding me? His motions, body language, and facial expressions are almost identical to a video from the MCIS era, only his uniform has changed. He doesn't really move much, hes always been clingy to his mic.
rohiogerv22 2 years ago 3
teen ????????
browneclowne 2 years ago
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The video looks like its out of sync with the sound, enough to make it look like their faking
DarkMystery256 2 years ago
no it's just bad quality, they're definately singing and performing live
gbaby97 2 years ago 5
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Methinks they're faking it for just one more show...
kodemonkee 2 years ago
i miss something in this video.. um.. darcy and iha maybe.. and they're playing too fast
zzzaaannnn 2 years ago
Ginger <3
FrenchGuitarist 3 years ago
slow it donw there corgan, but great song
Genecidedrummer 3 years ago
It is a really good show from The Smashing Pumpkins!!!!
I love them
hij468 3 years ago
the bass tempo in the begining is a bit fast than normal but besides that the preformance was great
s6strings93 3 years ago
They're so good live.
I wish I could see them live.
But everyone I know hates them :(
I need new friends.
hahahaha.
whiiitn3yy 3 years ago 7
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they are fucking terrible live
brandonself92 2 years ago
what are you talkin' about
baseboyy 2 years ago
He's talking about this. It's terrible.
They just don't look like they give a shit.
Better as a studio album.
OIIIlllIIIO 2 years ago
Have you ever even been to a Pumpkins concert?? Besides, just because they're not doing their absolute best every show doesn't mean they suck. Can you imagine playing every night and giving it your all constantly.
Selinedis 2 years ago
Yeah, I've seen them live. They were fairly average really, this is about as good as it got.
Unenthusiastic and frankly, a little sloppy.
I think it's perfectly fair to criticize them for not doing their absolute best. It's what the audience is paying them for. Essentially it's their job, so thier lack of substance is a problem.
If an engineer didn't do his best - you'd be the first to complain when his bridge collapsed.
OIIIlllIIIO 2 years ago
You make a good point.
Selinedis 2 years ago
In my opinion, all of Mellon Collie is monotonous, but in a good way. I know it's weird, but that's how i feel about it. It's powerful in sound, depressing in energy. I think Billy does an awesome job of expressing the energy in a particular song, and he does the energy of this one exactly how the instrumentation expresses, low key, but with energy. Watch Gossamer and say he doesn't have energy. Or Heavy Metal Machine. Or Glass and the Ghost Children. Or They Only Come Out at Night.
rohiogerv22 2 years ago 2
epic.
0Grimmsn0 3 years ago
fantástico
espimgardino 3 years ago 4
they dont move enough on stage
clez2 3 years ago
what the hell do you mean by that? they're not puppies. they just play live music. thats what the people should be there for. to be there, witness the moment and rock.
eastsidegallery 3 years ago 6
they're not korn you fucktard!
richpon1973 3 years ago 3
if i was in a band i wouldnt move either
its about the song mostly. i guess the do move but they can move more
mihrusskiy 3 years ago
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they sound bad on stage
cosmingurau 3 years ago
I remember seeing them in Dublin last year, this song absolutely blew the roof off the RDS. I'll take that moment to my grave.
PaulyIommi 3 years ago 3
he looks so creepy with the lights on him.
maroonhero 3 years ago
its sexy
PersonalJesus348 3 years ago 2
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Why is he wearing an ayrian nation /kkk sheet???
BrodyLuv2 3 years ago
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any idea of billy as obi one kenobi? go watch star wars you fucking retard!
richpon1973 3 years ago
Seriously, I think Billy got taller.
MAXKORN1 3 years ago 21
great song but whats with billy wearing that
dress thing lol
go the pumpkins ;)
Blackberryman67 3 years ago 4
He looks sexy in it :P
koolguy1029 3 years ago
this concert must have been amazing... this guys, omg!*
Lizieeeeeeee 3 years ago 3
im so happy somebody got the title of this song right! everybody always calls this rat in a cage
trekkieguitarist1966 3 years ago
Best song ever
KSGJJVG134 3 years ago 2
I wanna be Ginger so I could squeeze Billy's ass
silviapunk20 3 years ago
billy's outfit wouldn't be nearly as funny if he wasnt so tall lol
i love this song even more live XD
love smashing pumpkins, fuckin great music
peace x
mattH185 3 years ago
oh boy, billy is sooo fucking stoned
senedjem 3 years ago
me lovez bill corgan! me makez a cartoon aboutz him!
GO SMASHING PIMPKINS!
juze09 3 years ago
i hate when people is flamed because of personal opinions
kenryuGD 3 years ago
I love Billy's bald head :)also Jimmy's drums :)
Kengi 3 years ago
I love Billy's screams.
tylesaintcool 3 years ago 6
They are, and will always be, awesome.
Winster655 3 years ago 3
He's got some hair growing under his 'Zwan cap'. . . Maybe badass Billy is on his way back? :)
DrSmoothness 3 years ago
Billy is always Bad Ass.
PersonalJesus348 3 years ago 7
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Billy has never been the same since he cut his hair or whatever happend to it. does he have cancer or something?
markyparks 3 years ago
nope, shaved it cause he was losing his hair, he shaved during Mellon Collie where they were really big, after that his mother dies so that changed him im guessing, but what the hell do i know
spgeorgiesp 3 years ago 4
I love this goddamn song!
Everybody who sais, the Pumpkins are bullshit since the reunion - shut up!
schoebd 3 years ago 4
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SHUT UP GROUPIE
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suck my dick bitch,,
corgan = gay
fainberg 3 years ago
you are a fucking idiot, Billy wrote everything on the fucking pumpkins' albums, and he recorded everything. James might have recorded some but d'arcy didnt record for shit.
JBrugger1080 3 years ago
thers a video on youtube of darcy recording zero...
christurkthebrave 3 years ago
She recorded some of mellon collie as well as adore/machina.
And don't give Billy all of the credit. Without James we wouldn't have plenty of songs including Mayonaise.
reallyocean 3 years ago
Billy´s voice is now much better than ten years ago, and they gave a great concert @ Pinkpop 2007
mielschroijen 3 years ago
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the bass sucks
fuck, i miss D'arcy
shit.. the smashing pumpkins are dead
this sucks..
corgan killed the song, and ginger sucks.. D'ARCY RULES
fainberg 3 years ago
oh please d'arcy was a mediocre bass-player just as ginger everyone who knows something about music knows that. And BTW the bass was never important in SP's songs. This version is awesome and Billy's voice is better than ever
noelliamjohn 3 years ago 3
The bass is a driving force in a lot of the pumpkins' songs. Ava Adore, I Am One, Crush, Blue, Drown, plenty. Don't write of the instrument just because in the majority of the songs it's not difficult to play.
reallyocean 3 years ago
u gotta love the new bassist. She has skills!
JonMikelQ 4 years ago
What happened to the old one?
darksecretlife 4 years ago
cocaine. yea...
ngaudio021 3 years ago
regerring to the comment below, but now she's living out of the public eye, i heard she's into horses now? i know that she did show one for real. kind of a change but hey, if that's what she wants.
ngaudio021 3 years ago
This Precision Bass sounds awesome...
uhohoverflow 4 years ago 4
this performance was better than the one on live earth. i was releaved to find out that billy hadn't lost his spunk
jgxcmonkey 4 years ago
the first time i hear the entire Mellon Collie i was eating caramel popcorn... this song makes me think about caramel popcorn...
warriorsng 4 years ago 24
lol @ that outfit Billy's wearing. He looks like some kind of freaky preacher.
I prefer the original version, without the drum/bass intro. Still a good performance, however.
InstantClassicCJ91 4 years ago 7
lol its like a japanese kimono thingy. i can't keep a straight face when i look at it.
ixlikexbananas 4 years ago
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he looks like he's wearing his dead mom's nighting gown.
qwertyfuck1 4 years ago
i love it all and jimmys nu style of drumming is absoloutly amazing!
jamiebev 4 years ago
cant blame them with the shitty version or whatnot.
its still sound extremely cool to me!
bjthepumpkinguy 4 years ago 2
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i hate it when they play this song like this, it sounds kinda shitty =[
blunderbuss 4 years ago
i hate this version with the drums its so shit i like the original better
redflag2 4 years ago
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i liked your mom's twat much better before she popped your ass out. we can't all get what we want.
opiraqifreedom 4 years ago
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ok i dun care ur just an idiot mind ur buisness fag
redflag2 4 years ago
ROFL!
pattyson12345 4 years ago
i guess he is happy becuse he relives his old days with smashing, its nice seeing billy, cant wait to see them!
Gammaa 4 years ago
Billy old and sad? He has always been a bit gloomy and mellon collie, but old he is not. That scream after the "quiet" section of the song (the arpeggio one) where he literally screams his lungs out, shows that billy still got that fire burning. Man, that power...
Viinapaa 4 years ago
Mellon Collie WITH some Infinite Sadness thrown in...
TheMerryMisanthrope 4 years ago
sorry but i must say it... this performance of BWBW is lacking hugely compared to the venom and rage of the MCIS era. it makes me miss the old times. billy seems kind of old and sad now.
as for james, i thought his e-bow guitar sounds contributed a whole lot to "adore." that was him playing that stuff, right?
musicfan99999 4 years ago
have you ever seen Billy Corgan happy on stage ???? he actually smiles at the beginning of today and at the end of Gossamer, so I guess he is happier than ever !!!!
havanaklub 4 years ago
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That's probably what his problem is - he's happy now. Happness equals low talent. In my experience all the talented people are manic depressives.
qwertyfuck1 4 years ago
Im manic depressive, does that mean my musics good?
yay?
roboticxcupcake 4 years ago
no ...but it does mean you need to keep taking your medication
qwertyfuck1 4 years ago
That is just ridiculous. Whether a person is happy or not has nothing to do with talent level or ability to create a good song. There are plenty of artists who create excellent songs who are all happy. Tell me, how many songs have you ever released you judgemental dick?
MuppetyMark 4 years ago
relax you pigfucker. I'm just saying what I've noticed from my own experience...look at all the greats, hendrix, kurt cobain, etc - all were diagnosed manic depressives.
happy people make good music too, but none of them are 'exceptionally' good, like these true greats.
qwertyfuck1 4 years ago
...
Billy IS the Smashing Pumpkins. Okay, on Mellon Collie, out of the 28 songs chosen for album, 26 of those were Billy's, while James had 1 - the other song was made by both Billy and James.
Adore - Darcy stated that it was practically a Billy Corgan solo album. So sadly, the other band members didn't contribute too much, mainly because Billy wouldn't let them. And that's why he's known as a tyrant, bless him.
gimo80 4 years ago
I don't think so at all. Jimmy's drums are what made me love this band. He's definitely the most talented musician in the band. While the music he writes is catchy and makes great songs, Billy doesn't write difficult-to-play music. On the other hand, Jimmy's drumming puts the majority of his songs fairly high up on the scale of difficulty.
reallyocean 3 years ago 2
that drum solo at the end is dope
bluemilk123 4 years ago
...Billy has finally caught on to the fact he can only make it by calling his new band The Smashing Pumpkins, in other words by riding on the Pumpkins name and history.
I think James is the missing link to the chemistry of the old Pumpkins and without him the new Pumpkins is dead.
qwertyfuck1 4 years ago
Smashing Pumpkins without James just isn't the Smashing Pumpkins. It's just another stupid band Billy has put together in a desperate attempt to recreate what he once had. The only difference with this venture and his past failed ventures is that
qwertyfuck1 4 years ago
Hate to tell you but Iha is a pantywaste in comparison to Jeff Schroeder. Listen to his work on The Violet Burning's 1996 self titled. It kicks about 1000 distinct brands of ass. The only problem with the new incarnation of the Pumpkins is that Billy didn't have him play on the record.
Nakedprey 4 years ago 2
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It wouldn't have made the slightest bit of difference if Jeff had played on the album because it's the writing and composition that sucks ass on Zeitgiest, not the rythm guitar playing.
qwertyfuck1 4 years ago
OMG..well it's just YOUR point of view
noelliamjohn 3 years ago
may I ask why you watch these videos. You clearly don't like them
Georgie17xx 3 years ago
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i don't like the new pumpkins. They're morphing into queer pop and trying to become too commercial for my liking. I only watch these videos to look for their old stuff.
qwertyfuck1 3 years ago
Mate he aint 20-somethink any more.
1HoneHeke1 3 years ago 4
so people older than 20-something are supposed to become commercial and queer pop-like? Get outta here.
reallyocean 3 years ago
How are they turning pop. Zeitgeist is more Metal than All of there other records.
Tylerlemons947 3 years ago 4
That drum solo was actually the intro to the next song (United States).
SmashingCorgans 4 years ago
that drum solo at the end was boss
westchewbacca 4 years ago
Now that Billy is in his 40s he doesn't scream as much as he used to. Getting old, I guess..... maturing. hahaha
SmashingCorgans 4 years ago
heineken jammin festival..italy
gtnr 4 years ago
i dunno about the new version of this song. its strange.
Greendeck561 4 years ago
this isn't a new version they've performed it on several tours
muserock69 4 years ago
no i know that, but its different than the recorded one. i dont like the tempo change, and the loss of the beginning guitar part. smashing pumpkins still whip serious anuz.
Greendeck561 4 years ago
lol agreed
muserock69 4 years ago
Sp are back!!! They rock as ever!
Can't wait for 16 june !
gtnr 4 years ago
Greenfield?
peavey2 4 years ago
our lil' miss d'arcy.. she's so amazing!
bjthepumpkinguy 4 years ago
Billy just gives...just gives... he is so generous... where does his get all that music?? i love him
giromini 4 years ago
ROCK FUCKING ON!!!
SPs are back!!
Despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage!!!!!!
s0berZer0 4 years ago
i was there :)
theschaaf 4 years ago
As good as this is, his singing is suspiciously even. I'll bet anything that all his crooning and screaming on the Mellon Collie tour did long-lasting damage.
corduroysleaze 4 years ago
hear the scream @ 3:41? that was nice.
zstopa1 4 years ago
Yeah, good stuff. I've got a Germany show from '96 where he's just a maniac for two straight hours.
corduroysleaze 4 years ago
gimmie
zstopa1 4 years ago
Excuse me zwaen0 are you missing something einstein eyes, the pumpkins are back. Its not some horrible transvestite impersonator, its billy you muppet!!!.
superleeds79 4 years ago
WELCOME GINGER REYES
WE LOVE YOU!
bjthepumpkinguy 4 years ago
omg!
Ginger looks so cute! She's really pretty!
But never forget: Smashing Pumpkins forever/again;-)
samson0190 4 years ago
i miss the smashing pumkuns :(
zwaen0 4 years ago
amazing! thanks man!!! :)
restlesssoul84 4 years ago