This video goes to show how versatie and resiliant to faults the HSTs are. A more modern unit would have been declared a failure and a replacement set would have been called messing up timetables even more so than the inconveniance of a slow runing train.
Happened to be waiting for a train at Reading a couple of months back and a HST rolled in from Paddington with a failed forward power car. It carried on although at a slower pace, and much slower start off speed. Eary with a silent engine though! The sound of a HST is awesome, and just shouts POWER.
With just one PC working, I thought it could still provide ETS to the whole train, just reduced traction power if it's heating the whole train, and thus by losing one PC you actually lose more than half your traction power, however, it must be slightly 'creepy' driving an HST set like that, although it's probably not much different to a Mk3/Mk4 DVT, however, these are particarly rare on FGW, who tends to use 'locomotives' for all it's express workings
You may be right about the ETS issue. A certain amount of Train Supply is needed for the Air Con as well as the Train Heat. I have forgotten what the trade off is when one engine is either not running or a least no providing Traction Power, it's been 15 years since I last drove an HST an my knowledge is "rusty" I got rid of my fault books when we lost the Paddington work to senior men at Exeter back in 1994 so I'm not up to speed.
On one engine full ETH is available from the running power car. the trade off is a loss of available horsepower for traction, if memory serves it's around 200hp, but I may be wrong.
I would be very surprised if Laira did not know of the fault and clued up the station fitters or got a replacement power car (if avail) at the station ready for swap out. Or a locomotive to assist over the Devon banks to Exeter. The rule used to be one engine and no assist, terminate.
Electric Train Supply - Used to be called ETH (Electric Train Heating) but has since changed with the latest traction modifications and rule book updates.
Voyagers/Pendolinos, there both shit! HSTs all the way, but no MTU shite! It wasn't a MTU that gave the HST's the title "FASTEST DIESEL LOCOMOTIVE IN THE WORLD", so support HSTs; MTU is MURDER!!!!
MAN TRACTION UNITS are no strangers to the Cornish Riviera Express or Cornwall,Devon or the Western Region for that mater. North British Warships, class 43 ironically. NBL D600's and NBL type 2 class 22 D6300's were all MTU's. As for Voyagers and Bendydildos, tell me about it. Coventry PSB on a Saturday when we have the Trent diversions!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Roll on the WMSC at Saltley, we won't have to see them then!!!!!
Every time ive been on a voyager, its been a totaly shite journey. If i gota go on one and theres no alternative, i drive. voyagers are total shit, peroid!
Too Right Bro' The only way we can get from Birmingham to the South West by train, is via Reading!!!! and by way of the Desert. Anything to avoid VV junk.
cosa if voyagers are the power of the future then i would be pretty pis**d that i would only travel at 2mph and also have you ever been on a voyager in summer from penznce? take a note, its not very nice
I took a Voyager from Penzance a month ago all the way to Leeds, and I can tell you it was not very nice at all.
From Plymouth onwards the Train was completely full. Luckily, because I got on at Penzance I could get a seat, but so many people had to stand, it was like being on the Tube. Plus, HST's have plug sockets so there is no reason why you should choose to go on a Voyager over an HST
Voyagers are awful. Some prat designed them so its like being in a toilet, the vibrations are frustrating, luggage racks are small, they cannot handle the Dawlish sea wall, do not have enough seats and you can't relax with an annoying engine underneath you!
Whereas HSTs are comfortable, have plenty of capacity, have a good buffet unlike this shop nonsence and have air con that works! And they are 31 years old. What does that tell you?
It Tells us LYPRC that somebody got it very wrong when they looked at the Voyagers and said "lets have some of them, they'll be great on the cross country services" NO names mentioned but I do know one person who put their names on the order/leasing sheet!
Sorry,but HST`s are crap,voyagers are the power of the future,even though they have less seats,etc,you have an engine under each coach,so you can here them thrash,
ive had every one ,bar five,for over a thousand miles now,i must be one of the main men for voyagers!
cosa200 you are talking utter bol**cks Hst's rule its voyagers that are sh*te they stink and make everyone be sick and what do u meen bout 4 carriages i was one one from penzance to wolverhampton and i was so cramped it was so full that i complained to virgin and got compensationj for it so maybe its about time that you shut up your arse and give your mouth a chance
im sorry,but these old engines/trains are now well past it,the virgin voyagers are the power of the future,fantastic looking and sounding trains,well laid out inside,great shop on board,and you can plug your laptop in as well,why didnt virgin order more?
They're called Vomiters for a reason, Also, Paxman Valenta engines hold the world speed record for a diesel powered train, while the MTUs either run out of fuel or catch fire. Voyagers sound fantastic? In the words of Nan Taylor "WHAT PIECE OF OLD SHIT!". I rest my case =)
Trams are hellfire all they need is a good refurb and they will last another 31 years, true the MTUs may have had a few teething problems, but noone can tell me the paxmans never either.... Besides the paxman thing is getting a bit old now, I have to say on the beast those MTUs aren't actually that bad, bringing a sound back to the Western Region that hasn't been heard for over 30 years....
Yeah, let's see where the voyagers are come their 31st birthday... I've never been on one, but from what I've heard, I don't think it's worth buying a ticket onboard a voyager. I now know why they don't let you do a 360 degree tour on the Virgin Trains website, whereas with the pendolino they do...
hst's are great i love the sound they make, when they came out they were second to concord, i say that mtus are the way forward but they should keep those screaming napier turbochargers!
isnt it about time FGW got rid of these outdated old trains ,the paxman engine power cars are just crap,MTU power units is the answer ,the paxman engines are now tired and make too much noise,or better still,why cant FGW get rid of these terrible trains and take a leaf out of virgin trains,replace them with four coach voyagers,much better.HST`s,are terrible trains.
This video goes to show how versatie and resiliant to faults the HSTs are. A more modern unit would have been declared a failure and a replacement set would have been called messing up timetables even more so than the inconveniance of a slow runing train.
DigitalAnalogueBR 1 year ago
I've been on a train that's done that once!
JBOwl4life 1 year ago
I dont see why they let it go when there's probably a perfectly good power car at the nearby Longrock depot! Great vid!
rorymacve 2 years ago
Happened to be waiting for a train at Reading a couple of months back and a HST rolled in from Paddington with a failed forward power car. It carried on although at a slower pace, and much slower start off speed. Eary with a silent engine though! The sound of a HST is awesome, and just shouts POWER.
typeocouk 3 years ago 2
I luv the 43s. I want to get two FGW 43s from Hornby sometime.
nov3019892008 3 years ago
With just one PC working, I thought it could still provide ETS to the whole train, just reduced traction power if it's heating the whole train, and thus by losing one PC you actually lose more than half your traction power, however, it must be slightly 'creepy' driving an HST set like that, although it's probably not much different to a Mk3/Mk4 DVT, however, these are particarly rare on FGW, who tends to use 'locomotives' for all it's express workings
89001avocet 3 years ago
You may be right about the ETS issue. A certain amount of Train Supply is needed for the Air Con as well as the Train Heat. I have forgotten what the trade off is when one engine is either not running or a least no providing Traction Power, it's been 15 years since I last drove an HST an my knowledge is "rusty" I got rid of my fault books when we lost the Paddington work to senior men at Exeter back in 1994 so I'm not up to speed.
milepost326 3 years ago
On one engine full ETH is available from the running power car. the trade off is a loss of available horsepower for traction, if memory serves it's around 200hp, but I may be wrong.
I would be very surprised if Laira did not know of the fault and clued up the station fitters or got a replacement power car (if avail) at the station ready for swap out. Or a locomotive to assist over the Devon banks to Exeter. The rule used to be one engine and no assist, terminate.
spankeysimian 2 years ago
the black horse must have worked up a sweat climbing up the dainton bank. thats one tough climb
Sephy69 2 years ago
ETS?whats that
boeingnerd77 2 years ago
Electric Train Supply - Used to be called ETH (Electric Train Heating) but has since changed with the latest traction modifications and rule book updates.
Paulsimon8 2 years ago
43034 what a legend. shows you how well built english trains are. they last a good 20-30 years!
Sephy69 3 years ago 8
full valenta yay
bennon1221 4 years ago
val both ends
mststv 4 years ago
fair play The Black Horse!!
Pity she died after!!
PBR14akaAdam 4 years ago
I got her last week at Long Rock on the rear of the 1600 out of Pee Zedd, pissing down and blowing a gale!!!!!
milepost326 4 years ago
I got 002 and 003 on the 1st, from Bath to Bristol and back. they were pretty good!!
PBR14akaAdam 4 years ago
lol, thats a good usual video, thanks for sharing
JBTEvans 4 years ago 3
Heheh, HST DVT :-D
BastiaanLuytjes 4 years ago 3
an hst on 1 power car can reach 100mph, as the power required 2 make a train go at 125mph is double the power 4 100mph
HSTsteven 4 years ago
How fast should HST's pass that place normally?
paaltje91 4 years ago
I think it's 60mph!!!
milepost326 4 years ago
i got a feeling it is 60 but then again around that bend there a big hill and thats 75 though there, dont quote me on it
mac550 4 years ago
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laryk500 2 years ago
I'm not an English guy.. I am familiar with some expressions, but what does "ticking over" exactly mean?
Skoda130 4 years ago
Means it is not on the power basically just providing some power for the electrics at most
HSTsteven 4 years ago
Okay, thanks.. So it is actually idling?
Skoda130 4 years ago 2
YEh, it's another way of wording it!
89001avocet 3 years ago
That really is a muted HST lol
JGHGFF 4 years ago
The MTUs aren't that bad - I'd rather see HSTs in service, albeit with MTUs, than see them replaced by those awful Voyagers.
Hyperen 4 years ago
Well said that man....no pun!!!!! LOL
milepost326 4 years ago
Where's the pun supposed to be?
Hyperen 4 years ago
MAN Traction unit
milepost326 4 years ago
Voyagers/Pendolinos, there both shit! HSTs all the way, but no MTU shite! It wasn't a MTU that gave the HST's the title "FASTEST DIESEL LOCOMOTIVE IN THE WORLD", so support HSTs; MTU is MURDER!!!!
37427 4 years ago
MAN TRACTION UNITS are no strangers to the Cornish Riviera Express or Cornwall,Devon or the Western Region for that mater. North British Warships, class 43 ironically. NBL D600's and NBL type 2 class 22 D6300's were all MTU's. As for Voyagers and Bendydildos, tell me about it. Coventry PSB on a Saturday when we have the Trent diversions!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Roll on the WMSC at Saltley, we won't have to see them then!!!!!
milepost326 4 years ago
Every time ive been on a voyager, its been a totaly shite journey. If i gota go on one and theres no alternative, i drive. voyagers are total shit, peroid!
HST's, best train ever built.
formidable38 4 years ago
Too Right Bro' The only way we can get from Birmingham to the South West by train, is via Reading!!!! and by way of the Desert. Anything to avoid VV junk.
milepost326 4 years ago
cosa if voyagers are the power of the future then i would be pretty pis**d that i would only travel at 2mph and also have you ever been on a voyager in summer from penznce? take a note, its not very nice
loonies125 4 years ago
I took a Voyager from Penzance a month ago all the way to Leeds, and I can tell you it was not very nice at all.
From Plymouth onwards the Train was completely full. Luckily, because I got on at Penzance I could get a seat, but so many people had to stand, it was like being on the Tube. Plus, HST's have plug sockets so there is no reason why you should choose to go on a Voyager over an HST
laryk500 2 years ago
Voyagers are awful. Some prat designed them so its like being in a toilet, the vibrations are frustrating, luggage racks are small, they cannot handle the Dawlish sea wall, do not have enough seats and you can't relax with an annoying engine underneath you!
Whereas HSTs are comfortable, have plenty of capacity, have a good buffet unlike this shop nonsence and have air con that works! And they are 31 years old. What does that tell you?
lyprc 4 years ago 2
It Tells us LYPRC that somebody got it very wrong when they looked at the Voyagers and said "lets have some of them, they'll be great on the cross country services" NO names mentioned but I do know one person who put their names on the order/leasing sheet!
milepost326 4 years ago
Sorry,but HST`s are crap,voyagers are the power of the future,even though they have less seats,etc,you have an engine under each coach,so you can here them thrash,
ive had every one ,bar five,for over a thousand miles now,i must be one of the main men for voyagers!
HST`s,,no thanks,total shite.
cosa200 4 years ago
wheres your brain mate? HSTs 125s are the best. Are you deaf to the beautiful sound they make?
dod4luce 4 years ago
Sorry mate but you are living on planet cookoo land.Just ask joe public ?????
peak45 4 years ago
i take it back - ur stoopid
iloveMTUs 4 years ago
cosa200 you are talking utter bol**cks Hst's rule its voyagers that are sh*te they stink and make everyone be sick and what do u meen bout 4 carriages i was one one from penzance to wolverhampton and i was so cramped it was so full that i complained to virgin and got compensationj for it so maybe its about time that you shut up your arse and give your mouth a chance
loonies125 5 years ago
well said that man!!!
milepost326 5 years ago
im sorry,but these old engines/trains are now well past it,the virgin voyagers are the power of the future,fantastic looking and sounding trains,well laid out inside,great shop on board,and you can plug your laptop in as well,why didnt virgin order more?
cosa200 5 years ago
They're called Vomiters for a reason, Also, Paxman Valenta engines hold the world speed record for a diesel powered train, while the MTUs either run out of fuel or catch fire. Voyagers sound fantastic? In the words of Nan Taylor "WHAT PIECE OF OLD SHIT!". I rest my case =)
puziparrot 5 years ago
Hear hear!!!!
well said that man!!!
milepost326 5 years ago
Trams are hellfire all they need is a good refurb and they will last another 31 years, true the MTUs may have had a few teething problems, but noone can tell me the paxmans never either.... Besides the paxman thing is getting a bit old now, I have to say on the beast those MTUs aren't actually that bad, bringing a sound back to the Western Region that hasn't been heard for over 30 years....
materiarecordsuk 5 years ago
hsts are 31 years old and they are still in use, that says something
renio1 5 years ago
Yeah, let's see where the voyagers are come their 31st birthday... I've never been on one, but from what I've heard, I don't think it's worth buying a ticket onboard a voyager. I now know why they don't let you do a 360 degree tour on the Virgin Trains website, whereas with the pendolino they do...
Yownanymous 4 years ago
Voyagers better than HSTS, never read so much crap in my life!
43155 5 years ago
How right you are.
peak45 4 years ago
hst's are great i love the sound they make, when they came out they were second to concord, i say that mtus are the way forward but they should keep those screaming napier turbochargers!
renio1 5 years ago
isnt it about time FGW got rid of these outdated old trains ,the paxman engine power cars are just crap,MTU power units is the answer ,the paxman engines are now tired and make too much noise,or better still,why cant FGW get rid of these terrible trains and take a leaf out of virgin trains,replace them with four coach voyagers,much better.HST`s,are terrible trains.
cosa200 5 years ago
I hate those MTUs... They basically turn the HST into a Turbostar, which uses a similar engine to the MTU...
Yownanymous 4 years ago 2
dnt be silly
iloveMTUs 4 years ago
Open your door and breath in ! yes its a real world.Please get in it ?
peak45 4 years ago
i love u
iloveMTUs 4 years ago