dios santo, no habia visto tantas estupideces en un solo comentario........al parecer debes ser alguno de esos imbeciles que acaban de conocer el genero,...
malmsteen y giardino son ambos grandes musicos, evidentemente malmsteen practicamente fundo la escuela neoclasica en guit electrica, walter lo siguio unos años despues...pero eso no significa que sea una copia, solo estan en un mismo movimiento estetico y musical, porfavor..just SHUT THE FUCK UP
Cual copia??? no me cabe en la cabeza quienes dicen q es una copia, para empezar las escalas q utilizan son completamente distintas, la letra en nada se parece y en el solo de esta canción jamas utiliza tapping. Realmente las dos canciones son una obra maestra y los dos son dos guitarristas muy talentosos, dejen de decir tonterías, admiren y escuchen ambas canciones !!!!!!
A mi no me suena al capricho 24 de paganini, mas o menos tiene una forma parecida al principio del solo, pero no lo suficiente como para decir que es un plagio, ademas no se por que se ofenden,los de rata blanca son buenos y walter giardino también, pero sus habilidades como guitarrista se quedan cortas contra yngwie, solo ver como yngwie de joven ya tenia varios grandes éxitos compuestos desde los 19 años. Aunque recientemente yngwie se ha vuelto muy monotono...
@andresbernal111 lo unico que se parecia era en que los dos hacian dos veces un arpegio en mi menor, aparte el solo de giardino es mucho mas largo y variado.
@4515970 no,no,no its more than that much more....theres the thempo and other major arpeggios too ...but galdino solo has much more time and melodies than malmsteen but the beguining is a ripp off to me.but "la leyenda ..."is a totally diferent song except for this part
i am very impress on other guitar players who has been said exceed malmsteen. but that doesnt matter because they cant be malmsteen on guitar ways. some do his composition and they do look best but fuck., i cant forget malmsteen when they doin it. its like i want to see and listen to malmsteen itself.
i dont see anyone so rocking lively as malmsteen do. his movement jives with his music. thats a total performance. if anybody want a perfecto micro second precision. then just listen and buy album with no video. his soul interpret devastation music realm. no one can easily understand that because thats what him.. has anyone heard study of personality of soul as 1,2,3? fuck who say yes.
probably. yngwie style is another realm in technique in guitar. thats the realm of malmsteem. i may say other are much good than him but the best thing is his realm rocks. rocks like a GOD of war and power.
He had trouble with the solo (too little gain?) after the arpegios, but saved the day with his clean legato, just to almost ruin it again at the end with the tapping. He didin´t see the time for the solo to end.
Puede ser que Walter Giardino halla copiado este tema en la "La leyenda del hada y el mago". Pero hay que admitir que hizo toda una obra de arte, yo pienso que si le hacemos escuchar a una persona que nunca escucho ninguno de estos temas, le agradaria mucho mas la melodia de "La leyenda del hada y el Mago".
walter intenta hacer los punteos d yngwie pero se le escucha no muy limpios y ademas monotonos. y encuanto a el plagio del solo no se trata d ke lo halla mejorado y quizas se escuche mas melodioso es ke no debio copiarlo es una caracteristica de los VERDADEROS ARTISTAS.......
PLAGIO DE ESE SOLO EN GRAN PARTE ES DE NICOLO PAGANINI asi que si viene otro guitarrista y usa punteos parecidos ,nadie puede decir nada ni Yngwie Malmsteen ni Walter GIARDINO
when you start learning guitar stuff it doesnt take long to realize things like that, youll probably agree. most ppl think brutal=skilled, not allways so
Yes brutal stuff is mostly really low tuned and really fast but the solo's are fucked up most of the time , there are a lot of crazy brutal shredders but i think its all the same and they have to focus too much on the guitar thats not metal !! metal is jumping around while playing crazy riffs and if u wanna get even crazier , singing at the same time
there is a death metal guitarist who blows away yngwie actually. his name is muhammed suicmez hes the guitarist for german technical death metal band necrophagist. his riffs are godly and his solos rape. yngwie is great too though and he is one of my main influences
fuck off for the dath metal fans support malmsteen up the malmsteens fuck the fuckings guitar players slowly kids dont thinkh shit of the great guitar chieff
yes they look like clowns today and I was at their shows at the time and it was the norm back then just like today where white kids dress like rappers which is already embarassing and will look infinitely worse 20 years from now
La diferencia mas grande entre ellos es que Malmsteen no comete plagio como walter. "La leyenda del hada y el mago" de Rata Blanca es una vil copia de esta gran cancion.
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The biggest difference between them is that Malmsteen doesnt commit plagiarism like Walter Giardino. Rata Blanca's "La leyenda del hada y el mago" is a vile copy of this awesome song.
mierda, no lo habia pensado, pero el solo es demasiado similar, y el riff tambn, jajajajajjajajajajajaa, años escuchando las dos canciones y siempre me decia a mi mismo, esto se me parece a algopero no se a que
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walter in rata blanca plays with more taste than Yngwie AND HE IS VERY MELODIC MORE THAT THEN THE LITTLE VIKING CHIEF LISTEN TO RATA BLANCA THEY ARE THE BEST BAND IN METAL TODAY AND I DON'T EVEN SPEAK SPANISH SO I CAN'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THE LYRICS BUT THEY THEY GET THE POINT ACROSS JUST FINE
@hugovillanueva Que malmsteen no comete plagio??? aajajajajjaja permiteme me río... Ywingie tocara mejor que Giardino, y tendra mas merito por haber tocado rock neoclasico antes que el, pero hablar de plagios...
Y la leyenda no es una vil copia, el solo es influenciado pero ninguna copia, que disparates dices
Vital Remains 'brutal vocals' sound like they're trying too hard to sound tough or 'evil' lol, they actually make me laugh a lot, but meh, I can't believe that ppl actually enjoy that and call it music
I can´t see no better matches in music industry for Scott Soto and Lyn Turner, that with Malmsteen. In my opinion all the later singers are lame. The singed musics made by Malmsteen style only do good with the technical and spiritual feeling of Soto and Joe. Sorry, but it would be great if Malmsteen revitalized those eras and brang the vocal power of any of those 2 singer mentioned by me, back to his band. Every fan agrees with that.
Interesting reply !!! Thanks. IT´s true that the vocal chords are everchanging. Even Malmsteen playing is more sloppy, less vigorous. But still great. Well, hope for new SOTO´s ehheh...if they appear hehe.
I would fucking love it if Yngwie and Jeff decided to actually create their own solo project, because honestly, this was the best era for Yngwie- they created such remarkable songs together.
Besides, doesn't Jeff have his own little tributes to Yngwie in his live shows where he plays Rising Force and Marching Out material?
come on, man... this car crash thing is a great bullshit.. take a look at YM`s playing in Leningrad.. or listen to Odyssey.. he was perfection back then. he's getting sloppy over the time.. don't know why, but he's not the same from the 80's and early 90's, I can't understand. the only thing I know is that you can't say the main reason for this was the car accident.. because he did great stuff and played GODLY soon after that ocurred!
I simply don't understand death and black metal, why fuck up the vocals and turn it into noise?
juma20able 2 months ago
Un buen cover de esta rolota la pueden encontrar con Vital remains! Death metal puro!
serjbucket 4 months ago
dios santo, no habia visto tantas estupideces en un solo comentario........al parecer debes ser alguno de esos imbeciles que acaban de conocer el genero,...
malmsteen y giardino son ambos grandes musicos, evidentemente malmsteen practicamente fundo la escuela neoclasica en guit electrica, walter lo siguio unos años despues...pero eso no significa que sea una copia, solo estan en un mismo movimiento estetico y musical, porfavor..just SHUT THE FUCK UP
jjuan54 6 months ago
Cual copia??? no me cabe en la cabeza quienes dicen q es una copia, para empezar las escalas q utilizan son completamente distintas, la letra en nada se parece y en el solo de esta canción jamas utiliza tapping. Realmente las dos canciones son una obra maestra y los dos son dos guitarristas muy talentosos, dejen de decir tonterías, admiren y escuchen ambas canciones !!!!!!
montasi78 6 months ago
En que estúpida y retrasada cabeza cabe mencionar el nombre del estúpido de Walter Plagino en la misma línea que la de este grande...
satchboogie82 7 months ago
A mi no me suena al capricho 24 de paganini, mas o menos tiene una forma parecida al principio del solo, pero no lo suficiente como para decir que es un plagio, ademas no se por que se ofenden,los de rata blanca son buenos y walter giardino también, pero sus habilidades como guitarrista se quedan cortas contra yngwie, solo ver como yngwie de joven ya tenia varios grandes éxitos compuestos desde los 19 años. Aunque recientemente yngwie se ha vuelto muy monotono...
andresbernal111 1 year ago
@andresbernal111 lo unico que se parecia era en que los dos hacian dos veces un arpegio en mi menor, aparte el solo de giardino es mucho mas largo y variado.
4515970 5 months ago
@4515970 no,no,no its more than that much more....theres the thempo and other major arpeggios too ...but galdino solo has much more time and melodies than malmsteen but the beguining is a ripp off to me.but "la leyenda ..."is a totally diferent song except for this part
beroth77 2 months ago
Los ángulos de cámara del solo son mierda.
TheAfterIife 1 year ago
I like Vital Remains version better.
Agnes135 1 year ago
this is still my favorite Live DVD music video. I need to buy a new one since I've worn out mine over the years.
Funkygotcha 1 year ago
La diferencia mas grande entre Yngwie Malmsteen y vital remains esque estos chavos suenan a mentada de madre
kannon6662 1 year ago
malmsteen at his best times , great imrpovisations and great creativity
lostinspacex 1 year ago
i am very impress on other guitar players who has been said exceed malmsteen. but that doesnt matter because they cant be malmsteen on guitar ways. some do his composition and they do look best but fuck., i cant forget malmsteen when they doin it. its like i want to see and listen to malmsteen itself.
limdanoliver 1 year ago
i dont see anyone so rocking lively as malmsteen do. his movement jives with his music. thats a total performance. if anybody want a perfecto micro second precision. then just listen and buy album with no video. his soul interpret devastation music realm. no one can easily understand that because thats what him.. has anyone heard study of personality of soul as 1,2,3? fuck who say yes.
limdanoliver 1 year ago
probably. yngwie style is another realm in technique in guitar. thats the realm of malmsteem. i may say other are much good than him but the best thing is his realm rocks. rocks like a GOD of war and power.
limdanoliver 1 year ago
He had trouble with the solo (too little gain?) after the arpegios, but saved the day with his clean legato, just to almost ruin it again at the end with the tapping. He didin´t see the time for the solo to end.
MarcosKtulu 2 years ago 4
so vital remains does a cover of this band?i didn't knew that....
karlos93x 2 years ago
Totally, no doubt, no one could touch him back then, how many people can say they were once god?
donmiad189 2 years ago
one of the best live performances ever
monomaiden 2 years ago 3
Yngwie Malmsteen and Jeff Scott Soto are gods. But sadly Malmsteen isn´t what he used to be. But hey, he ruled back in the 80´s.
NisseEricsson 2 years ago 6
he's so a great musician!!
mario31123456789 2 years ago 2
Puede ser que Walter Giardino halla copiado este tema en la "La leyenda del hada y el mago". Pero hay que admitir que hizo toda una obra de arte, yo pienso que si le hacemos escuchar a una persona que nunca escucho ninguno de estos temas, le agradaria mucho mas la melodia de "La leyenda del hada y el Mago".
cristian2412 2 years ago
walter intenta hacer los punteos d yngwie pero se le escucha no muy limpios y ademas monotonos. y encuanto a el plagio del solo no se trata d ke lo halla mejorado y quizas se escuche mas melodioso es ke no debio copiarlo es una caracteristica de los VERDADEROS ARTISTAS.......
musikadict7 2 years ago 4
PLAGIO DE ESE SOLO EN GRAN PARTE ES DE NICOLO PAGANINI asi que si viene otro guitarrista y usa punteos parecidos ,nadie puede decir nada ni Yngwie Malmsteen ni Walter GIARDINO
Ruben8979 2 years ago
@Ruben8979 de que cancion de paganini fue el plagio ? gracias
blackgrowl666 1 year ago
@blackgrowl666 el capricho 24 el fraceo rapido es el solo
Ruben8979 1 year ago
Se parecen porque ambos usan un arpegio en Mi menor, nada que ver un tema con el otro.
ZBlue666 2 years ago
best singer he ever worked with.
LeonardCohenRocks 2 years ago 7
Malmsteen's the man, and Jeff Scott's vocals fit his stuff like a glove!!!!
Briannicus 2 years ago 6
i personally like the Vital Reamins version, but this is fucking awesome aswell
thrashmetalz666 2 years ago
yngwie goes off-beat sometimes
joelmvp08 2 years ago
I got his DVD of malmsteens crazy babbling guitar solos live in japan and the marches out cd by rising force and it was awesome.
Other of my favorite guitarist's are:
adrian smith
kai hansen
alexi laiho
michael schenker
rudolf schenker
uli jon roth
ritche blackmore
Malldemolisher101 2 years ago 2
The Vital Remains Version is killer too!..but Originals are always awesoem!
chedgooch 2 years ago
Wheres the great acoustic intro?
Tubezzz 3 years ago
is this song nice? i don't think so
firesmell 3 years ago
Qué temazo !!!!
alwaritzmi 3 years ago
i like death metal but no death metal guitar player matches yngwie
GillesGerais 3 years ago 4
Finally someone realizes :D... Yngwie is the greatest ever . And a lot of death metal band music sounds difficult but it isnt.
xSnoweyexp 3 years ago
when you start learning guitar stuff it doesnt take long to realize things like that, youll probably agree. most ppl think brutal=skilled, not allways so
GillesGerais 3 years ago
Yes brutal stuff is mostly really low tuned and really fast but the solo's are fucked up most of the time , there are a lot of crazy brutal shredders but i think its all the same and they have to focus too much on the guitar thats not metal !! metal is jumping around while playing crazy riffs and if u wanna get even crazier , singing at the same time
xSnoweyexp 3 years ago 3
there is a death metal guitarist who blows away yngwie actually. his name is muhammed suicmez hes the guitarist for german technical death metal band necrophagist. his riffs are godly and his solos rape. yngwie is great too though and he is one of my main influences
guitar4evr30 2 years ago
Fuck off, Malmsteen was far earlier than suicmez, and the latter is a fucking pig. Hail to the true shredder god.
NationalOrder 2 years ago 8
the japanese still pump their fists like that this very day
ydidntIthinkofthat 3 years ago 2
fuck off for the dath metal fans support malmsteen up the malmsteens fuck the fuckings guitar players slowly kids dont thinkh shit of the great guitar chieff
nousarname 3 years ago
yes they look like clowns today and I was at their shows at the time and it was the norm back then just like today where white kids dress like rappers which is already embarassing and will look infinitely worse 20 years from now
nothingface2112 3 years ago 2
They look like fucking clowns! lmao!!!
fastbastard69 3 years ago
I'm sure that 20 years from now, the kids will say the same thing about the face-pierced, tattoo-wall papered, grunting-sounding metal acts of today.
tipigi 3 years ago 3
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los escucho a giardino y a malmsteen y no encuentro la diferencia
RataBruno 3 years ago
La diferencia mas grande entre ellos es que Malmsteen no comete plagio como walter. "La leyenda del hada y el mago" de Rata Blanca es una vil copia de esta gran cancion.
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The biggest difference between them is that Malmsteen doesnt commit plagiarism like Walter Giardino. Rata Blanca's "La leyenda del hada y el mago" is a vile copy of this awesome song.
Yngwie Malmsteen>>>>>>>Walter who?
hugovillanueva 3 years ago 15
mierda, no lo habia pensado, pero el solo es demasiado similar, y el riff tambn, jajajajajjajajajajajaa, años escuchando las dos canciones y siempre me decia a mi mismo, esto se me parece a algopero no se a que
graveviolator86 3 years ago 7
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walter in rata blanca plays with more taste than Yngwie AND HE IS VERY MELODIC MORE THAT THEN THE LITTLE VIKING CHIEF LISTEN TO RATA BLANCA THEY ARE THE BEST BAND IN METAL TODAY AND I DON'T EVEN SPEAK SPANISH SO I CAN'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THE LYRICS BUT THEY THEY GET THE POINT ACROSS JUST FINE
stratluvr 2 years ago
@hugovillanueva el solo es casi todo Nicolo Pagannini o que crees que el sueco lo compuso......eso es plagio
Ruben8979 1 year ago
@hugovillanueva Diooos! al fin un groso! gracias man! pura realidad!!!
poderes 1 year ago
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@hugovillanueva Que malmsteen no comete plagio??? aajajajajjaja permiteme me río... Ywingie tocara mejor que Giardino, y tendra mas merito por haber tocado rock neoclasico antes que el, pero hablar de plagios...
Y la leyenda no es una vil copia, el solo es influenciado pero ninguna copia, que disparates dices
estebanskater123 4 months ago
@hugovillanueva Yeah, and this song is heavily similar to "He's a woman, She's a man" from Scorpions...
Thats how music evolves and is passed to one generation to the other, especially Heavy Metal, is very hard to be completely original nowadays...
ordepcbmt 2 months ago
jeff scott soto vocals are incredibly power full, he could easily give ronnie james dio a run for the money! With out a doubt yngwies best vocalist!
6h967 3 years ago 2
Only if I coulda been there ;).....
TheGuitarSentry 3 years ago
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This song was made for death metal. Vital Remains made it perfect.
HereticMocculta 3 years ago
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are you kidding? wital remains version sounds like a fucking joke, i laughed when i heard their vocals, i thought it was a joke
hugovillanueva 3 years ago
Not a joke, I herd that before this. Brutal vocals, awesome cover.
ElectricBanjo2468 3 years ago
Vital Remains 'brutal vocals' sound like they're trying too hard to sound tough or 'evil' lol, they actually make me laugh a lot, but meh, I can't believe that ppl actually enjoy that and call it music
hugovillanueva 3 years ago
its theyre fucking style, asshole
thrashmetalz666 2 years ago
Saw Malmsteen in Chicago right after Cliff Burton died. Damn, what a bummer of a show...except YM was great. A true showman.
Randy
fantagor 3 years ago
Es un temazo. Yo había escuchado primero la versión que hace Vital Remains, ni idea de que era un cover de Yngwie Malmsteen
LichKing666x 3 years ago
Lee el comentario de aioria1712
HuachoPresagio 3 years ago
what he siad..
roonie2 3 years ago
Jajajajajajaja La leyenda supera a Disciples of Hell????? jajajajaja
HuachoPresagio 3 years ago 9
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asi es
JaviCheeze 3 years ago
Quien dijo esa pandejada?
OctaviousBelmont 3 years ago 10
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La leyenda del hada y el mago supera y por mucho a este tema.
aioria1712 3 years ago
puro plagio no ma
LethalSidius 3 years ago 5
Vital remains does a better version of this song
Cheesygorditacrunch 3 years ago
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I have to agree
SPAMMYWHOSPAM 3 years ago
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highly agreed
irnman1120 3 years ago
i love this song , but i lik ethe way vital remains did it ...its bitching when you hear glen go , THE GATES OF HELL SHALL OPEN !!
then the sick double bass!!!
satriarchgtarist666 3 years ago 2
I can´t see no better matches in music industry for Scott Soto and Lyn Turner, that with Malmsteen. In my opinion all the later singers are lame. The singed musics made by Malmsteen style only do good with the technical and spiritual feeling of Soto and Joe. Sorry, but it would be great if Malmsteen revitalized those eras and brang the vocal power of any of those 2 singer mentioned by me, back to his band. Every fan agrees with that.
fl4vio 3 years ago
I was reading an interview with JSS on a YJM fansite, and Jeff said that he couldn't even sing like he did back in 1985!
Anonymorse 3 years ago
Interesting reply !!! Thanks. IT´s true that the vocal chords are everchanging. Even Malmsteen playing is more sloppy, less vigorous. But still great. Well, hope for new SOTO´s ehheh...if they appear hehe.
fl4vio 3 years ago
the soto shit was definately the best
zdflip3 3 years ago
The Soto stuff sounded hungrier, and did less repeating....imo
ricaard 3 years ago
nice headache boxes
bman462 4 years ago
el unico credito de Giardino es ser igual de fanfarron que malmsteen,,,
de resto es una copia descarada
danielrrjd 4 years ago 7
I would fucking love it if Yngwie and Jeff decided to actually create their own solo project, because honestly, this was the best era for Yngwie- they created such remarkable songs together.
Besides, doesn't Jeff have his own little tributes to Yngwie in his live shows where he plays Rising Force and Marching Out material?
coolaidmanlol 4 years ago 4
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It's a shame that Giardino partially stole this solo, but he made it way better anyway!
Una lástima que Giardino alla afanado este solo,pero lo hizo mucho mejor!
ferchdan 4 years ago
great technique of ynwgie pre-car crash. i'd be fckin depressed if that happened to me..
marloni 4 years ago
come on, man... this car crash thing is a great bullshit.. take a look at YM`s playing in Leningrad.. or listen to Odyssey.. he was perfection back then. he's getting sloppy over the time.. don't know why, but he's not the same from the 80's and early 90's, I can't understand. the only thing I know is that you can't say the main reason for this was the car accident.. because he did great stuff and played GODLY soon after that ocurred!
caiodorn 2 years ago 4
its prob because he worries to much about gear.
rtfan13 2 years ago
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El Solo de "la leyenda del hada y el mago" (Rata Blanca) La primera vez que la escuhce no lo podía creer! Que Grandes. Giardino y Malmsteen.
xGiovanni 4 years ago
Que Cancion! Fijate que se escribe "Disciples"
xGiovanni 4 years ago
Reminds me some good old times!!! Marching out is a perfect record!!! Good to the last drop!!!
boulili101 4 years ago