Panzer Dragoon Saga Disc 1 Part 3/14 (SSF)

[samuraispiritsx]

Why won't sega put this game out again in some fashion, I really would like to play this.

[VaniaMickist37]

naja ich bin eine gummi puppe

[GambitFactor]

I'm sure its difficult making a reboot of the series but not impossible, they can do it in increments like create the whole first disc put it on the Xbox or PSN and call it "Episode 1" that will give people alot of time to play episode 1 being that i'm sure its a long first disc until episode 2 arrives which would consist of the entire second disc. But damn...It sucks I don't have a saturn now and it sucks i don't have this game...it brings memories of what I don't have LMAO

[Kenou]

now i wish i hadnt sold this and my saturn years ago...

[VantuProductions]

I absolutely loved this game! What a technical masterpiece and a big middle finger to the press who continued to rant that the Saturn didn't have the capabilities of the PS. The only problem with the game IMO was that is was far too easy. I remember the dying times of my Saturn...and while I may not have been at the game store everyday shuffling though hundreds of shovelware like the PSOne folks...I was obtaining some of the best games ever created, and the best games that ever ended a console!

[mattcyborgelt]

They could port it if they still had the source code... except the source code was lost. Go figure. They haven't had the motivation to rewrite things or emulate things. I am going to dig my saturn back out to play this treasure.

[windscar15]

what happened to the moonspeak from the previous cutscenes? They suddenly start speaking Japanese. It was cooler when they were speaking that german-russian-japanese hybrid language

[Relugus]

It would work well on the DS, they could do a fairly straight port at not too much cost.

[therealbluedragon]

Nah, the coding used in Saturn games is very different to other games. Everything is rendered in squares called Quadrilaterals instead of triangular Polygons. It would be very expensive to convert it for release on other systems. There's also a rumor that Sega has lost the original programing code for Saga anyway, so if they want to put it on other systems a remake is the only way.

[CornishCreamtea07]

@therealbluedragon

They can just rip the code from an existing copy of the game.

[therealbluedragon]

@CornishCreamtea07 That would be reverse engineering, it isn't the same. EVERYTHING today renders 3D models with Polys, not Quads like the Saturn did. The only bits they could salvage for a port would be the textures, FMV's & sound files. Every single 3D model would have to be rebuilt from scratch! The only other option would be emulation but since emulating Saturn games is complicated & very inefficient that would also take time. The 360 & PS3 might be able to pull it off but it would be close.

[CornishCreamtea07]

@therealbluedragon

Well you seem to know more then I do. But it would a shame to have the game remade instead of playing the original.

[VantuProductions]

@therealbluedragon Sega is already thinking about bringing Saturn games to XBLA and PSN. Though the Saturn is a head scratcher to most of the third parties that developed for it, I don't think Emulation will be a problem on the current systems (except Wii). However, Sega is too worried about the market appeal of Saturn games since it lacked popularity. They are looking at it completely wrong.worried about the system itself, and not the games that should be recognized. Screw Crazi Taxi Sega! SF3!

[Noahangel21]

@therealbluedragon .

Could you help me with something?

What is your Computer Hardware cuz I use the same emulator SSF 0.10 but run slower that yours or you Emulator Configuration ?

My CPU is

ATHLON 2.2 dual core

3 GB RAM

Video NVIDIA 256 MB

Hard Disk 100 GB

[therealbluedragon]

@Noahangel21 Could be the Athlon causing the issues, the SSF website recommends an Intel chipset.

[nerdycub]

@therealbluedragon Umm you do know that any Modeling and rendering program worth its cost has a conversion system where it cuts Quadrilaterals in half to form two triangles.

Its used for modern day graphics as dealing with squares in modeling is easier than triangles. Even with today's detail heavy modeling this process takes about a dozen hours.

[Plumppoo]

Dont suppose you know if team andromeda has disbanded do you? I would love for them to work on an updated re release, but then again even by today's standards i still feel this is one of the most beautiful and gripping games in history, EPIC!

[therealbluedragon]

They dispanded not long after saga came out. Alot of the original team helped out Smilebit when they made PD Orta for the xbox. so they're still out there & I bet some of them still work for sega.

[tb46667]

I heard someone committed suicide during production.

[japanUKhero]

Memories.......

[raiden214]

was this on sega saturn

[therealbluedragon]

yes, yes it was