@Dhorpatan i watched your how to disprove God in 3 minutes or less, needless to say I'm still a Christian. You miss or confuse many concepts about infinity God & the universe. If God is outside the universe he's not bound to the the laws of the universe you said this can't be because all there is is the universe how do we know that, who defined the universe that way, man could made up these definitions about what is the universe & been wrong, like when they thought Ireland was the furthest west
@miking193 god lives in a univers outside of ours one without time (no start/no end) think like a parelel univers sorta thing were hes still able to interact with this universe. way i see it anyways
@miking193 god lives in a univers outside of ours one without time (no start/no end) think like a parelel univers sorta thing were hes still able to interact with this universe. way i see it anyways
saying God exist outside of the universe, or outside of existence, is not an accurate description of how God describes being the creator either making you ignorant, dishonest, or both the point about God existing outside of the universe, is talking about the world live in, the world accessable to us, God says he created the whole thing, & interacts with this world, & is independent of it, he existed before this creation the word universe doesn't fit the universe is dependent upon him creating it
@miking193 way i see god is like someone playing sim's on computer, he dont live in same world, all 'sims' are made in his image, and he created the whole world everyone lives in :D lot more simalaritys if you think of it that way;)
@killallneds yes and one day we will create some beings in the virtual world that have free will and the most fun part will be when they start to deny the programer's existance. Hahah.
@sergiomarchelli just how great would that be a game were folk have free will to do what they like:P right im gonna be working on that hopefully be a millionaire once i get programing sorted:P lol
@killallneds I think maybe will succed in this, so will know how God is feeling when we reject Him. In fact they can explore the world, to make their own science or belief system. But they won't understand that all this is done with just words... ;-).
@sergiomarchelli aahh.. i cant wait till that day :D n makes the most sence with refrence to god like he's the programe n since you yourself cant enter digital world how do you make them listen/believe in you?
@miking193 I'm not saying that napoleon didn't have faith in some greater power, but I'm not arguing that napoleon was a very sane man either. Faith might share some resemblance with imagination, since faith is a product of imagination, not the other way around... And placebo effect is about psychology, not faith.
@darkwave22 oh I see; so words mean what ever you want when it fits your agenda, so the placebo effect is about psychology when it has a positive effect, and not faith? It's faith, they thought they get healed and boom it happened how is that not faith? Put your faith on Jesus Christ and you don't have to worry about going to the lake of fire, you will be persecuted here, but you won't have to redefine words to hide from the truth, the truth will set you free. God bless you
@miking193 The same thing goes for you when talking about faith. For you, faith seems to mean all the things you don't understand, and don't want to understand... as long as it is positive ofcourse. And no, placebo is not faith, it's psychology as I stated earlier. And if I would be a believer for the sake of not going to hell... well... that's just retarded.
@darkwave22 Stay calm we are not trying to hurt you. Faith is not everything I don't understand, we defined faith the first thing in the video "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." That doesn't mean everything I don't know, I'm a caveman bubble boy indoctrinated Christian, because my parents said so. You ever hear of show not tell? You not showing me how the placebo effect is psychology and not faith, you simply stating it, thinking that makes it so.
@darkwave22 We showed you earlier and I'll do it again, the placebo effect is faith, someone takes a sugar pill, in faith they believe they got the real medicine and that it will heal them, then their body gets better. That's an example of belief,and faith working. If you want to add on the term psychology fine, but doesn't negate the fact that calling it faith is an accurate description. Did you see how I showed you, and didn't just tell you? God bless you, God loves you, I love you
@darkwave22 never said Napoleon was someone to model ones self after either but I'll listen to someone who wielded such great power, whether good or bad, to see how they acquired it Unlike you or me, or all the other billions of people from his time till now, he accomplished more then us I agree it was not necessarily good things but what method did he use, and he said imagination rules the world. Following that trail does that mean the people today who are the top powers do they use it as well?
I have faith in a higher power, by what ever name you wish to call it. You've totally confused faith with imagination. Imagination is the work of the mind that helps create fantasy. It can also have furthered our evolution as you say and separates us from lower species. Faith is a belief based on both seen and unseen events or instances. I can imagine that you're not an idiot, but have faith that you will continue to be one. See the difference. No offense intended.
@firepoispinner Yup I bet no offense tended because you could have used your imagination to come up with any other kind of analogy, so it's fair to discredit you as a liar, and the offense is intended However I forgive you because i to have told lies and I want Jesus Christ to forgive me that's my faith. In the begging of the video I defined faith, Hebrews 11:1 You have limited both faith and imagination, I can not only use my imagination for fantasy but also to bring in reality, like a new tool
@firepoispinner imagination is not only of things I have never seen, it can be a mix of what we have seen, and added onto extra elements, like in the Wizard of Oz, Dorthy knows the Tin Man, Scarecrow, and the Lion, as people from her everyday life, but imagines them with new never seen before added fantastical characteristics. Back to the point no I don't think faith and imagination are the same thing, but they can share similar characteristics like a square and a rectangle.
@darkwave22 very well put, could you site examples where the points were so hard to understand? Example did I say "the way to get to the top of the mountain is to go unplug every single slushie machine in Cleveland Ohio." that statement makes no sense, can you site statements of that nature that I made. Maybe you misunderstood and I could still explain it to you. Not mad at you, just trying to be understand you, so I can help you. God bless you
@miking193 You seem to have confused faith with creativity and being able to visualize an idea in your mind. Based on previous experiences I can convince myself that an idea is either worth being realized or not. That has nothing to do with faith.
@miking193 Ooh sarcasm. I wasn't trying to be deep; depth is not a requirement for all internet interaction.
Faith, in the context you're using it, is useless. All you're doing is making excuses for people who just make stuff up. There is only one truth, only one set of facts. There is no point speculating about what *might* sit outside the realm of fact. You could literally say ANYTHING and put it down to 'faith'.
@alexvegas yes depth is not a requirement for all internet interaction, are you a robot? Did you listen to the video or did you just see the title, and like a buzz word it set you off, to list a bunch of rehearsed hack lines?? Because you haven't responded to one line of thought in the video, just sounds like a robot who saw a word, that bothers them, and like a close minded person, won't accept new information about, but retorts to campaign rhetoric
@alexvegas exactly how in the context I used it was faith useless, one of the ways I used faith was in the placebo effect where people use in faith think they're going to get healed and it happens 1/3 of the time, does that sound useless?? By the way that is one of the points I used, here's another, if your are on a team who do you want the negative nancy or the person who rallies people with his confidence they'll win, which is faith because they can't know for sure
@miking193 You're getting confused. Faith in one's own abilities - or the abilities of team mates - is based on previous experience, knowledge that your team plays well and has the ability to do well. It's a completely different emotion to faith in supernatural beings which no one has ever seen.
I started watching your video but gave up when you randomly started talking about Walt Disney and drawing 'mices' with a wax crayon.
@alexvegas that kind of faith confidence, as useless as you think it is or not, is statically more likely to win a team than having all negative nancies, even if they whimper "we can be confident because it's useless we don't have the facts yet if we'll win" again your ignorance of the subject matter I talked about in the video leads me to think you didn't do your homework and watch the video but are just wanting to spread your campaign trail I forgive you God bless you
There is no such thing as God. I have already proven this with the Laws of Logic.
Dhorpatan 1 year ago 2
@Dhorpatan how to know to trust logic as such a great tool, we use logic, thus it's circular logic right.
miking193 1 year ago
@miking193 it works though so whats the problem?
killallneds 1 year ago
@Dhorpatan i watched your how to disprove God in 3 minutes or less, needless to say I'm still a Christian. You miss or confuse many concepts about infinity God & the universe. If God is outside the universe he's not bound to the the laws of the universe you said this can't be because all there is is the universe how do we know that, who defined the universe that way, man could made up these definitions about what is the universe & been wrong, like when they thought Ireland was the furthest west
miking193 1 year ago
@miking193 god lives in a univers outside of ours one without time (no start/no end) think like a parelel univers sorta thing were hes still able to interact with this universe. way i see it anyways
killallneds 1 year ago
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@miking193 god lives in a univers outside of ours one without time (no start/no end) think like a parelel univers sorta thing were hes still able to interact with this universe. way i see it anyways
killallneds 1 year ago
saying God exist outside of the universe, or outside of existence, is not an accurate description of how God describes being the creator either making you ignorant, dishonest, or both the point about God existing outside of the universe, is talking about the world live in, the world accessable to us, God says he created the whole thing, & interacts with this world, & is independent of it, he existed before this creation the word universe doesn't fit the universe is dependent upon him creating it
miking193 1 year ago
@miking193 way i see god is like someone playing sim's on computer, he dont live in same world, all 'sims' are made in his image, and he created the whole world everyone lives in :D lot more simalaritys if you think of it that way;)
killallneds 1 year ago
@killallneds ok thank you
miking193 1 year ago
@killallneds yes and one day we will create some beings in the virtual world that have free will and the most fun part will be when they start to deny the programer's existance. Hahah.
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli just how great would that be a game were folk have free will to do what they like:P right im gonna be working on that hopefully be a millionaire once i get programing sorted:P lol
killallneds 1 year ago
@killallneds I think maybe will succed in this, so will know how God is feeling when we reject Him. In fact they can explore the world, to make their own science or belief system. But they won't understand that all this is done with just words... ;-).
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli aahh.. i cant wait till that day :D n makes the most sence with refrence to god like he's the programe n since you yourself cant enter digital world how do you make them listen/believe in you?
killallneds 1 year ago
@Dhorpatan HAhahahahahah. All the best philosophers didn't but prived this, but you did. Hahaha. Ignorance is blessing. Stay blessed.
sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@miking193 I'm not saying that napoleon didn't have faith in some greater power, but I'm not arguing that napoleon was a very sane man either. Faith might share some resemblance with imagination, since faith is a product of imagination, not the other way around... And placebo effect is about psychology, not faith.
darkwave22 1 year ago
@darkwave22 oh I see; so words mean what ever you want when it fits your agenda, so the placebo effect is about psychology when it has a positive effect, and not faith? It's faith, they thought they get healed and boom it happened how is that not faith? Put your faith on Jesus Christ and you don't have to worry about going to the lake of fire, you will be persecuted here, but you won't have to redefine words to hide from the truth, the truth will set you free. God bless you
miking193 1 year ago
@miking193 The same thing goes for you when talking about faith. For you, faith seems to mean all the things you don't understand, and don't want to understand... as long as it is positive ofcourse. And no, placebo is not faith, it's psychology as I stated earlier. And if I would be a believer for the sake of not going to hell... well... that's just retarded.
darkwave22 1 year ago
@darkwave22 Stay calm we are not trying to hurt you. Faith is not everything I don't understand, we defined faith the first thing in the video "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." That doesn't mean everything I don't know, I'm a caveman bubble boy indoctrinated Christian, because my parents said so. You ever hear of show not tell? You not showing me how the placebo effect is psychology and not faith, you simply stating it, thinking that makes it so.
miking193 1 year ago
@darkwave22 We showed you earlier and I'll do it again, the placebo effect is faith, someone takes a sugar pill, in faith they believe they got the real medicine and that it will heal them, then their body gets better. That's an example of belief,and faith working. If you want to add on the term psychology fine, but doesn't negate the fact that calling it faith is an accurate description. Did you see how I showed you, and didn't just tell you? God bless you, God loves you, I love you
miking193 1 year ago
@darkwave22 never said Napoleon was someone to model ones self after either but I'll listen to someone who wielded such great power, whether good or bad, to see how they acquired it Unlike you or me, or all the other billions of people from his time till now, he accomplished more then us I agree it was not necessarily good things but what method did he use, and he said imagination rules the world. Following that trail does that mean the people today who are the top powers do they use it as well?
miking193 1 year ago
I have faith in a higher power, by what ever name you wish to call it. You've totally confused faith with imagination. Imagination is the work of the mind that helps create fantasy. It can also have furthered our evolution as you say and separates us from lower species. Faith is a belief based on both seen and unseen events or instances. I can imagine that you're not an idiot, but have faith that you will continue to be one. See the difference. No offense intended.
firepoispinner 1 year ago
@firepoispinner Yup I bet no offense tended because you could have used your imagination to come up with any other kind of analogy, so it's fair to discredit you as a liar, and the offense is intended However I forgive you because i to have told lies and I want Jesus Christ to forgive me that's my faith. In the begging of the video I defined faith, Hebrews 11:1 You have limited both faith and imagination, I can not only use my imagination for fantasy but also to bring in reality, like a new tool
miking193 1 year ago
@firepoispinner imagination is not only of things I have never seen, it can be a mix of what we have seen, and added onto extra elements, like in the Wizard of Oz, Dorthy knows the Tin Man, Scarecrow, and the Lion, as people from her everyday life, but imagines them with new never seen before added fantastical characteristics. Back to the point no I don't think faith and imagination are the same thing, but they can share similar characteristics like a square and a rectangle.
miking193 1 year ago
Nice try, but you make absolutely no sense what so ever..
darkwave22 1 year ago
Respond to this video...good point, i can see clearly now
miking193 1 year ago
@darkwave22 very well put, could you site examples where the points were so hard to understand? Example did I say "the way to get to the top of the mountain is to go unplug every single slushie machine in Cleveland Ohio." that statement makes no sense, can you site statements of that nature that I made. Maybe you misunderstood and I could still explain it to you. Not mad at you, just trying to be understand you, so I can help you. God bless you
miking193 1 year ago
@miking193 You seem to have confused faith with creativity and being able to visualize an idea in your mind. Based on previous experiences I can convince myself that an idea is either worth being realized or not. That has nothing to do with faith.
darkwave22 1 year ago
'Faith' is the word people use when they're unable to use the word 'knowledge'.
alexvegas 1 year ago
@alexvegas wow that was deep
miking193 1 year ago
@miking193 Ooh sarcasm. I wasn't trying to be deep; depth is not a requirement for all internet interaction.
Faith, in the context you're using it, is useless. All you're doing is making excuses for people who just make stuff up. There is only one truth, only one set of facts. There is no point speculating about what *might* sit outside the realm of fact. You could literally say ANYTHING and put it down to 'faith'.
alexvegas 1 year ago
@alexvegas oh that was Johnny Deep
miking193 1 year ago
@alexvegas yes depth is not a requirement for all internet interaction, are you a robot? Did you listen to the video or did you just see the title, and like a buzz word it set you off, to list a bunch of rehearsed hack lines?? Because you haven't responded to one line of thought in the video, just sounds like a robot who saw a word, that bothers them, and like a close minded person, won't accept new information about, but retorts to campaign rhetoric
miking193 1 year ago
@alexvegas exactly how in the context I used it was faith useless, one of the ways I used faith was in the placebo effect where people use in faith think they're going to get healed and it happens 1/3 of the time, does that sound useless?? By the way that is one of the points I used, here's another, if your are on a team who do you want the negative nancy or the person who rallies people with his confidence they'll win, which is faith because they can't know for sure
miking193 1 year ago
@miking193 You're getting confused. Faith in one's own abilities - or the abilities of team mates - is based on previous experience, knowledge that your team plays well and has the ability to do well. It's a completely different emotion to faith in supernatural beings which no one has ever seen.
I started watching your video but gave up when you randomly started talking about Walt Disney and drawing 'mices' with a wax crayon.
alexvegas 1 year ago
@alexvegas that kind of faith confidence, as useless as you think it is or not, is statically more likely to win a team than having all negative nancies, even if they whimper "we can be confident because it's useless we don't have the facts yet if we'll win" again your ignorance of the subject matter I talked about in the video leads me to think you didn't do your homework and watch the video but are just wanting to spread your campaign trail I forgive you God bless you
miking193 1 year ago
I made it to 8 seconds.
SomethingPipeRelated 1 year ago
@SomethingPipeRelated God bless you anyway
miking193 1 year ago
The Lord has been good to build my faith levels up over the years....
SuperScreamingEagle 1 year ago