overall good job, personally this solo should be played on an old field drum, or a newer marching snare, definatly shouldve been played with tradional grip, besides the mistakes and those singles twrds the end it was k.
u took WAAAY to long it is supposed to be played UNDER 3 min. AND you messed up 4 times! your good, im tryin 2 get u down but you should not have tried this solo in competition. needs mor work.ur really good though:)
just gonna trhow in my 2 cents before i'm off about them grips.
My oppinion(Very Personal) is that you should always play trad when beeing in a drum corp/marchingband. But if you play a drum set, why bother. It sure looks way cooler with trad, but the technical disadvantages on a drum kit is quite enough to going for match. Although i personally still prefers trad in ANY situations.
Great job. Don't worry about traditional grip. If matched works for you then use it. It makes more sense to use matched anyway. I don't know why people get so worried about what grip people are using. Who cares.
like flippyflipper say it was created for military snare drummers, playing a hung snare which was on an angle, because if you played match grip you would constantly play rim clicks. the only drummer who used traditional grip on a drum kit for what it was created for was the great late buddy rich. because he played with a snare the was on a heavy angle away from him. and for those who say it's a feel thing that is total bollacks
Additionally, in the old days of marching band performances, the drums were always off to the side, just as you mentioned. Now days the marching snares and tenors are mounted and positioned directly in front of you making matched grip comfortable and perfectly acceptable. Personally, I'm from the old school and still prefer to see traditional grip during marching, I just think it looks good. From a technical aspect, matched is no better / wores than traditional.
Can i ask a serious question to everyone questioning matched, Why does it matter? Its going to sound the same, There is no RIGHT technique between trad and matched, Matched works jsut fine, especially for more complex solos like this, seeing as how the usual highschool student dosnt have NEARLY as much trad. chops as a drumcorp player, aka mitch marcovich
Also, What if shes a tenor player, who just plays snare solos for contest? Every tenor i know plays snare solos matched at contest?
traditinal was formed because the armys drummers had the drum sideways and it was easier to play like that cause matched would get stress full on a 20 mile hike. so it doesnt matter
If you performed this at DCA I & E in Rochester, my guess is you would have scored a 72.5 (respectable, I may add). Tempo maintenance was good and the texture of the duple rolls at the tempo you played was good.
Watch your inner beats -- hard to distinguish between accents and grace notes. Flams sounded good, but "flat" at times.
You have great potential!!! Build up your chops and continue to strive.
very nice, a few suggestions/comments. First off kudos for trying this is a very hard piece to do. I would try and marching snare with a traditional style grip. it will give you more control and more rebound for this piece that is rudimentaly challenging. one this also that might mess you up is the foot taping. some people it doesnt and some it does just depends on the person. ohh yea most important just let it flow and relax
wow u messed up going to the b section of it and all it is is eighth note alternating flam's lol wow u need to loosen up but good recovery and maybe try traditional.
One of the reasons I stuck with matched for this solo is that I didn't have access to a marching snare, and I didn't want to tilt the drum, and if you ask me I think that playing traditional on a flat snare doesn't really make too much sense.
however, I am open to learning traditional sometime when I have someone to teach me and I have the time, because I do like traditional. I just didn't think it was practical to try learing a new grip to play for solo/ensemble.
She is in high school you idiot. Need I mention that Santa Clara Vangaurd has used match technique? And no one dares question the badassness of SCV. Learn to know what you are talking about, makes you look ignorant rather than smart...
Hi, I'm currently starting on drumming. Could you give me any advice? I want to go into jazz drumming. Will it affect my playing style if I practice using snaredrum marching pieces? I feel that the rudiments are very important, and these rudiments are very well portray in these marching pieces. Another questions, where will I be able to get scores for snare drum solos? Any recommended titles?
HOW DO YOU READ MUSIC!?!?!? i cant... i just started today and they skipped the first red percussion book to the blue... >.< i only know roles,flams,and para diddles..
I started learning to read music in 5th grade, and Tornado is a difficult piece to read. it's good that you're being taught to read. it will really come in handy. be sure to practice those rudiments!
hey.....an awesome job on a TOUGH piece. Just needs to be a bit more musical and precise....especially on those crescendos! You totally blew a few of those at the end, you know the quick P to FFF's on those 7s hooked into 9s (1m before I for instance). Those crescendos are vital to the musicality, and practice a bit more and pay attention to those and you'll be left with a killer solo. Nice Job.
These are just tips to fine tune your performance. Always go for that meaty sound but don't pound the drum. Also, you might want to think about playing this on a marching snare drum. Last thing, keep it musical. Drumming is music too! Make sure that each phrase or idea is outlined by dynamic contrast and that the piece makes sense when you play it. Anyone can ram, but making music of the thing is what's important. Once again, good job!
3. Most of the 7-stroke rolls you have in this piece are pickups to a phrase. Therefore, it would make sense to crescendo the roll into the phrase. You were almost doing the opposite: accenting the beginning of the roll and then ending up with a softer attack on the beginning of the phrase. I think this goes back to the uneven diddle thing. You'll get it...
Good Job. It's nice to see a girl who has some chops! I have 3 comments:
1. Your diddles sound a little uneven. Make sure that the second note in the diddle is a little stronger to round out that sound. Maybe try to not accent the diddle so much to get the bounce going on. Keep striving for that consistency of sound...
to frankenstrat10... i did this solo my sophomore year in high school and got a First Division at UIL Solo and Ensemble Contest... it was really challenging but i was really proud of myself for it... Heather did a good job (especially on a concert snare)... it's weird seeing it played match grip... everybody where i live is taught traditional grip... good job though
Not bad. A) You're taking the first section at about 100 when it's intended for 130. B) Not enough dynamic constrast. The piano sections in the slow sections sounded the same as the fortismo sections. Nice potential. The rhythms are perfect, it's just about fine tuning.
Thanks for your comment and suggestion. I agree. This solo was designed for a marching snare with a tight head. However our snare "pool" consists of a maple 14 x 5 1/2 steel hoops (what she's playing), a maple 14 x 6 steel hoop and a maple 13 x 6 (the second snare in hte duet)with wood hoops, all three are custom Allegras so we went with what we had. When she goes to state we're going to try and pull a marching snare from school.
After 40 years of drumming, I happened to hear about such a thing as Tornado. Something every US drummer claims to be able to play. I practised it for month, and I searched the net for month to find a recording of someone who plays it.
There is a lot of talent there! Nice smooth and fluid motion in your matched grip. I see lots of potential and upside. You seem to be a well-rounded percussionist. I enjoyed the other videos also!
Thanks for the compliments. Heather (Drummerchick88) says your son Jay is her "hero"; has his videos marked on her "favorites" list, so tell him to keep up his awesome drumming!
wow, good job. I'm playing this same solo for my state thingy and i know how hard it is to just get through the damn thing. what grade are you in, because besides me the only other grade students i've heard play this are seniors cuz it's so hard. good job though, you obviously stopped up in a few noticable places but you did good. (if anything, try playing it a little faster and really focus on dynamics)
Heather is a senior. She knows it was a little rough and she didn't get to work on it as much as she would have liked, as she had a duet & a large ensemble percussion piece to work on for the same competition, as well as jazz band pieces for her school band and for an extra-curricular Symphonic Winds band she is in. She has been working on incorporating all the suggestions she's received, and we're sure her performance at State next month will be even better...
As many of my students have found out this is a very difficult solo and very demanding on the hands and arms. I thought you did a very good job Heather and wish you well at the state competiion. I have some suggestions that I think will help which I will try to email you.
hey thats at federal way high school! my old band room!
vacantin 8 months ago
This solo's a lot harder than it looks. I can't even hack 108bpm. Would Heather be interested in putting up a comparative vid?
isisdazs 1 year ago
overall good job, personally this solo should be played on an old field drum, or a newer marching snare, definatly shouldve been played with tradional grip, besides the mistakes and those singles twrds the end it was k.
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kas36spires 2 years ago
u took WAAAY to long it is supposed to be played UNDER 3 min. AND you messed up 4 times! your good, im tryin 2 get u down but you should not have tried this solo in competition. needs mor work.ur really good though:)
CodeNameAlien51 3 years ago
Yes, she knows this was not her best competition piece; she's improved VERY much over the last two plus years, though.
Madmartigan1 3 years ago
Holy Jeezus.
uberawesomeme12 3 years ago
Why are you not playing it on a marching snare
dickcockcunt 3 years ago
just gonna trhow in my 2 cents before i'm off about them grips.
My oppinion(Very Personal) is that you should always play trad when beeing in a drum corp/marchingband. But if you play a drum set, why bother. It sure looks way cooler with trad, but the technical disadvantages on a drum kit is quite enough to going for match. Although i personally still prefers trad in ANY situations.
HMKGman1 3 years ago
Great job. Don't worry about traditional grip. If matched works for you then use it. It makes more sense to use matched anyway. I don't know why people get so worried about what grip people are using. Who cares.
miketalbot4 3 years ago 8
Perhaps some dynamics
chingading 3 years ago 2
like flippyflipper say it was created for military snare drummers, playing a hung snare which was on an angle, because if you played match grip you would constantly play rim clicks. the only drummer who used traditional grip on a drum kit for what it was created for was the great late buddy rich. because he played with a snare the was on a heavy angle away from him. and for those who say it's a feel thing that is total bollacks
MyChoiceZildjian 3 years ago
Additionally, in the old days of marching band performances, the drums were always off to the side, just as you mentioned. Now days the marching snares and tenors are mounted and positioned directly in front of you making matched grip comfortable and perfectly acceptable. Personally, I'm from the old school and still prefer to see traditional grip during marching, I just think it looks good. From a technical aspect, matched is no better / wores than traditional.
Madmartigan1 3 years ago
yeah agree with what you say about how it looks cooler. there is just no technical advantages to either
MyChoiceZildjian 3 years ago
@MyChoiceZildjian
for jazz, it's a lot funner and more fluid to play traditional
minimeiskool 1 year ago
chick drummers are sssssssssoooooooooo cool!Beautiful job!
Drumguitarman 4 years ago 6
totally agree
MyChoiceZildjian 3 years ago
@Drumguitarman
yeah but 1 problem with chick drummers: (99%) will never have the chops of guys
minimeiskool 1 year ago
@minimeiskool and this girl has better chops than 99% of guys... lol
LukeSnyderMusic 1 year ago
Can i ask a serious question to everyone questioning matched, Why does it matter? Its going to sound the same, There is no RIGHT technique between trad and matched, Matched works jsut fine, especially for more complex solos like this, seeing as how the usual highschool student dosnt have NEARLY as much trad. chops as a drumcorp player, aka mitch marcovich
Also, What if shes a tenor player, who just plays snare solos for contest? Every tenor i know plays snare solos matched at contest?
xSabiaNx 4 years ago 2
traditinal was formed because the armys drummers had the drum sideways and it was easier to play like that cause matched would get stress full on a 20 mile hike. so it doesnt matter
flippyflipper1239 3 years ago
because traditional looks uniform and matched looks sloppy
igoturnose80 3 years ago
Who cares? Whatever grip works for you is the one you is the one you should use.
Teromnix 3 years ago 3
You want to have more dynamic coontrast in that second long role before the 6/8 section.
rhssnare 4 years ago
use a marching snare next time it sounds alot better.
cobraluv44 4 years ago
Great attempt at a difficult solo!
If you performed this at DCA I & E in Rochester, my guess is you would have scored a 72.5 (respectable, I may add). Tempo maintenance was good and the texture of the duple rolls at the tempo you played was good.
Watch your inner beats -- hard to distinguish between accents and grace notes. Flams sounded good, but "flat" at times.
You have great potential!!! Build up your chops and continue to strive.
Congratulations on your 1st place finish.
whoowndachiefs 4 years ago
>_>
AlphaFalconX 4 years ago
and why would you play this on a concert snare??? it sounds so much better on marching snare
dointhecockroachs 4 years ago
yeah, i didn't have access to a marching snare at the time. I used a marching snare when I played it at state though
drummerchick88 4 years ago
No worries, it wasn't written for Kevlar anyway.
drfunk1975 4 years ago
very nice, a few suggestions/comments. First off kudos for trying this is a very hard piece to do. I would try and marching snare with a traditional style grip. it will give you more control and more rebound for this piece that is rudimentaly challenging. one this also that might mess you up is the foot taping. some people it doesnt and some it does just depends on the person. ohh yea most important just let it flow and relax
stickboynate 4 years ago
wow u messed up going to the b section of it and all it is is eighth note alternating flam's lol wow u need to loosen up but good recovery and maybe try traditional.
kirbman69 4 years ago
learn how to play traditional, match sucks on snare solo's makes you look like you were taught by a high school marching band then a corp...
burtonbrder2005 4 years ago
One of the reasons I stuck with matched for this solo is that I didn't have access to a marching snare, and I didn't want to tilt the drum, and if you ask me I think that playing traditional on a flat snare doesn't really make too much sense.
however, I am open to learning traditional sometime when I have someone to teach me and I have the time, because I do like traditional. I just didn't think it was practical to try learing a new grip to play for solo/ensemble.
drummerchick88 4 years ago
She is in high school you idiot. Need I mention that Santa Clara Vangaurd has used match technique? And no one dares question the badassness of SCV. Learn to know what you are talking about, makes you look ignorant rather than smart...
Good Job drummerchick
centerbound 4 years ago
Thanks centerbound
Madmartigan1 4 years ago
Why is everybody so critical on the foot tapping. If it keeps her on beat, let it be.
chase0822 4 years ago
Nice job. Now take more care of the nuances. Piano. MezzoPiano, Crescendo, Forte, etc.
pope0331 4 years ago
Agreed.
CanadaKubecka 4 years ago
i tell ya, drummerchick88, you rock in stereo! (and with 5.1 sound where available!) (lol; I had to throw that in)
Excellent job!
Aubster06 4 years ago
good for a girl! JK!
TheCLIP82 4 years ago
Eww, don't say that.
drummerchick88 4 years ago
Hi, I'm currently starting on drumming. Could you give me any advice? I want to go into jazz drumming. Will it affect my playing style if I practice using snaredrum marching pieces? I feel that the rudiments are very important, and these rudiments are very well portray in these marching pieces. Another questions, where will I be able to get scores for snare drum solos? Any recommended titles?
hellownurse 4 years ago
Learn every rudiment. And of course how to read music.
wiliscool 4 years ago
um...ok?
drummerchick88 4 years ago
HOW DO YOU READ MUSIC!?!?!? i cant... i just started today and they skipped the first red percussion book to the blue... >.< i only know roles,flams,and para diddles..
lilaznkien 4 years ago
I started learning to read music in 5th grade, and Tornado is a difficult piece to read. it's good that you're being taught to read. it will really come in handy. be sure to practice those rudiments!
drummerchick88 4 years ago
Don't tap your foot. Use a marching snare. Watch flam interpretation. Watch accent-tap relationships.
awefi 4 years ago
I played this again on April 28th, and i didn't tap my foot and i used a marching snare. thanks for the advice!
drummerchick88 4 years ago
can you be my bride? plz i love you! your so good!
hornypayaso 4 years ago 2
hey.....an awesome job on a TOUGH piece. Just needs to be a bit more musical and precise....especially on those crescendos! You totally blew a few of those at the end, you know the quick P to FFF's on those 7s hooked into 9s (1m before I for instance). Those crescendos are vital to the musicality, and practice a bit more and pay attention to those and you'll be left with a killer solo. Nice Job.
paintfall353 4 years ago
These are just tips to fine tune your performance. Always go for that meaty sound but don't pound the drum. Also, you might want to think about playing this on a marching snare drum. Last thing, keep it musical. Drumming is music too! Make sure that each phrase or idea is outlined by dynamic contrast and that the piece makes sense when you play it. Anyone can ram, but making music of the thing is what's important. Once again, good job!
nada7flama 4 years ago
3. Most of the 7-stroke rolls you have in this piece are pickups to a phrase. Therefore, it would make sense to crescendo the roll into the phrase. You were almost doing the opposite: accenting the beginning of the roll and then ending up with a softer attack on the beginning of the phrase. I think this goes back to the uneven diddle thing. You'll get it...
nada7flama 4 years ago
Good Job. It's nice to see a girl who has some chops! I have 3 comments:
1. Your diddles sound a little uneven. Make sure that the second note in the diddle is a little stronger to round out that sound. Maybe try to not accent the diddle so much to get the bounce going on. Keep striving for that consistency of sound...
nada7flama 4 years ago
to frankenstrat10... i did this solo my sophomore year in high school and got a First Division at UIL Solo and Ensemble Contest... it was really challenging but i was really proud of myself for it... Heather did a good job (especially on a concert snare)... it's weird seeing it played match grip... everybody where i live is taught traditional grip... good job though
gpdrummer08 4 years ago
Not bad. A) You're taking the first section at about 100 when it's intended for 130. B) Not enough dynamic constrast. The piano sections in the slow sections sounded the same as the fortismo sections. Nice potential. The rhythms are perfect, it's just about fine tuning.
Shweex 5 years ago
She's good. Really!! But I think you should of had her play htis on a marching drum. But she still rocks. Keep up the good work
boph8 5 years ago
Thanks for your comment and suggestion. I agree. This solo was designed for a marching snare with a tight head. However our snare "pool" consists of a maple 14 x 5 1/2 steel hoops (what she's playing), a maple 14 x 6 steel hoop and a maple 13 x 6 (the second snare in hte duet)with wood hoops, all three are custom Allegras so we went with what we had. When she goes to state we're going to try and pull a marching snare from school.
Madmartigan1 5 years ago
dats wuz up. send me a tape of her @ state please.
boph8 5 years ago
After 40 years of drumming, I happened to hear about such a thing as Tornado. Something every US drummer claims to be able to play. I practised it for month, and I searched the net for month to find a recording of someone who plays it.
This is it!
rootheart 5 years ago
There is a lot of talent there! Nice smooth and fluid motion in your matched grip. I see lots of potential and upside. You seem to be a well-rounded percussionist. I enjoyed the other videos also!
oldchops 5 years ago
Thanks for the compliments. Heather (Drummerchick88) says your son Jay is her "hero"; has his videos marked on her "favorites" list, so tell him to keep up his awesome drumming!
Madmartigan1 5 years ago
wow, good job. I'm playing this same solo for my state thingy and i know how hard it is to just get through the damn thing. what grade are you in, because besides me the only other grade students i've heard play this are seniors cuz it's so hard. good job though, you obviously stopped up in a few noticable places but you did good. (if anything, try playing it a little faster and really focus on dynamics)
frankenstrat10 5 years ago
Heather is a senior. She knows it was a little rough and she didn't get to work on it as much as she would have liked, as she had a duet & a large ensemble percussion piece to work on for the same competition, as well as jazz band pieces for her school band and for an extra-curricular Symphonic Winds band she is in. She has been working on incorporating all the suggestions she's received, and we're sure her performance at State next month will be even better...
Madmartigan1 5 years ago
very nice control of tempo and rhythm from 0:53 - 1:20. I like the musicality. Sweet crescendoed paradiddles.
snarescience 5 years ago
As many of my students have found out this is a very difficult solo and very demanding on the hands and arms. I thought you did a very good job Heather and wish you well at the state competiion. I have some suggestions that I think will help which I will try to email you.
jaywebler 5 years ago
Thanks for your kind words of encouragement. Heather's youtube name is Drummerchick88
Madmartigan1 5 years ago
yeah it is difficult on the hands and arms i thought she did a great hand job
bostonmaguiretube 5 years ago
I got a 1. I see where you're coming from, I'm gonna keep working on it for the State competition though.
drummerchick88 5 years ago
What was your score honey? By the sounds of it you should've moved down a grade!
finalofseven 5 years ago
Yes we know heather is amazing....
thunderdrums009 5 years ago