Jesus Christ was not a communist and marxist/socialist theory has nothing at all to do with why he was crucified. If you want to know why he was crucified than try actually read the Bible. Communists persecute Christians and therefore they are persecuting Christ. When you persecute the believer you are persecuting Christ as Christ dwells in the believer. Jesus said to Saul (who was a persecutor of Christians), "Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?".
The Bible is very clear as to why Jesus was crucified. I am shocked that you are so ignorant as to say that Jesus was crucified because he was a "great communist". He was crucifed to fulfill prophecy, they killed him because he claimed to be the Christ. His work on the cross was to be the propitiation and atonement to heal the rift between God and man. The work of Christ on the cross was the "Great Work", the communists have a different "great work" which has nothing to do with Messiah.
Any religion is true and OK with me as long as it comes on you freely AND is not potentially murderous. When you say that I, a communist, am Satanists, the logical conclusion is that you should kill me in order to fight Satana. Do not make a fool pf yourself.
Nowhere in the Bible does it say Christians should kill "satanists" or anybody else. For........
"we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." - Ephesians 6:12
Your communist beliefs of course call for revolution murder and the ELIMINATION of whole classes of people.
Your hate causes a bias which blinds you to reason.
You hate that which you do not understand and you do not understand Christianity because you are not one of the elect. You can war against Christ but it will only lead to your own destruction.
I am not a "Jehovah's witness" if thats what you are implying.
What is "Biblical Christianity"?? It can be found in the Bible, but yes, out of all the denominations certain independent Baptists are probably the closest to Biblical Christianity as far as correct dogma goes.
Forget Stalin, even without stalin, communist regimes massacred hundreds of millions of people. What about the bolshevik destruction of Russia? Mao's mass killing of Chinese, what about pol pot and many many others.
@WorshipInTruth The communist "crimes" are much exagerated. What about "christian crimes"? What about crusades, decimation of Amerindians, slavery? Is Jesus guilty fot them? If your answer is YES, I can accept that I, a communist am guilty for Stalin's crimes.
@radurambo I can prove that the teachings of Marxism advocate violent revolution and class warfare. Can you say the same about the teachings of Jesus? Stalin is the natural result of socialistic philosophy in action, can you blame the horrors caused by the institution of the catholic church on Jesus? Of course not.. Your comparison is ridiculous and insults my intelligence.
@WorshipInTruth Aha! "I have not come to bring you the Peace, but the Sword!"; the whipping of priests in Temple; and, Paul's words "I say you the Truth, that the time will come when all those that are not with us are agains us".
@radurambo You also understand nothing of the Bible so for you to comment on it is foolishness. The Apostles and others expected Messiah to come, set up his kingdom, rule the world from Jerusalem bringing peace to the Judean people but that is not why he came the first time, the first time only the sword was brought to the people, Messiah was crucified and the Christian persecuted by the Romans and the jews just as the communists do.
@radurambo There exists only one Christian religion. There are many denominations, but only one Faith. The Bible is clear in what it teaches, there are imposters who would confuse the obvious meaning of scripture to suit their political or social agenda. You are one of those people. You realize that communism is also broken into countless sects correct? Your argument is in reality a meaningless non-argument. Spare me your pointless drivel.
As I said, many denominations, only one Faith. The faith as handed down by the Apostles and as recorded in Holy Writ (The Bible).
How far a certain sect or denomination deviates from Scripture is how far it has fallen from the true Faith. Many of the denominations you have mentioned (i.e Luthern, Calvinst, [low church] Anglican, Baptist, Adventist, Mennonite, Amish) teach practically the exact same thing with only a few deviancies.
@radurambo As a Protestant, I relate to most of the aforementioned groups one way or another. Now it is questionable as to whether or not catholics and jehovahs witnesses can be considered Christians. I do not consider jevovahs witnesses to be Christian, they are a non-Christian [lets just say quasi-Christian] sect. The same goes for many catholics.
@radurambo I consider myself a Christian first and foremost but if I had to describe my Christianity in more detail you could perhaps say that I am an Calvinistic Baptist (I also agree with many of the teachings of the SDA and I have much respect for Amish and mennonites). Eschatology wise I am basically a historicist.
@WorshipInTruth : Communism lies in human genes. Its history is millenar. Gracchi brothers were communists, Spartacus, Thomas Munzer. It is as plain as that: we should all be equal. Deny that? OK, then how do you measure us. By wealth? Jesus did not accept that. The faith? How do you measure it? Maybe MY faith is greater than yours. Religion is only between me and Lord. . Who can measure that? You? Maybe Marx is in heaven (no matter what Wurmbrand says) and Wurmbrand in hell. Who knows? You?
@radurambo You are the one that astonishes me with your pitiful argument. That would be like me asking So Stalinist=Marxist=Leninist=Troskyite=Maoist=Schachtmanism=Anarcho-Communist=Bolshevik=Menshevik etc. etc.
Still do not even understand what your point is. So because there are different interpretations of the Bible than the Bible must be wrong? Is the Communist Manifesto wrong because there are different interpretations?
@WorshipInTruth "Stop trying to act like Christians are bigots" (some christians are) , "no religionis allowed to exist in a truely marxist system. ". Well, this is simply wrong. What about Theology of Liberation? About Camilo Torres? And what is that "true marxist"? Marx never claimed that he is the owner of Truth. He wrote is articulated opinions, trying to put more epystheme than doxa. But he is not the inventator of Communism.
@radurambo If you are going to attack Christianity than attack what is in the BIBLE just as I will attack what is in the Communist Manifesto.
We all deserve to rot in hell, that is why Jesus died for your sins so that if you believe on him you will be saved by the grace of God through faith in his precious shed blood. Stop trying to act like Christians are bigots, no Christianity (or any expression of religion for that matter) is allowed to exist in a truely marxist system. YOU ARE THE BIGOT
@WorshipInTruth No, dear. Bible is not true, it is not false. The religions (and the ideologies) are not about false or true, they are about values. What is Good, what is Evil, how am I to live such that I shall not be ashamed on myself, things like that. If you want, all religions are "true" as far they do not teach to kill anyother people with different faith. Now, communism, is a secularized form of Christianity. It is about equality, fraternity and altruism. The Evil lies in exploiting
@radurambo The fact that you say communist crimes are exaggerated just shows how utterly indoctrinated and biased you are in your historical conclusions. There really is no point in trying to argue with people like you because logic and facts mean nothing to you.
@WorshipInTruth : More than that, I tell you that if you are not a communist, you cannot be a Christian. Class warfare DOES exist, the problem is whom do you support? I support the weak (like Jesus); you support the Rich, as the Pharisees.
@radurambo Jesus was not a materialist like you communists. It was never his goal to bring material wealth to the lower classes or to set up a system which would forcefully take property from people. Jesus's teachings are of a spiritual nature and transcend politics. Oh how people like you cheapen the Gospel of Christ. You claim communist supports the weak.. LAUGH. News flash, communism was funded by the fascist elitist capitalist international.
@radurambo "The classes and the races too weak to master the new conditions of life must give way... they must perish in the revolutionary holocaust (sacrifice)" - Karl Marx "People's Paper April 16 1859- Journal of the History of Ideas, Vol. 42. No 1. 1981.
He was truely a sick man and you are of a pathetic and perverted mind for falling for such garbage without even truely understanding what it is all about.
What about the mass murder of south African whites which is being carried out by communists as we speak? Do you forget that the fascist (national socialist)movement was nothing but the REACTION to communist (marxist international socialism). The fascists were simply fighting fire (socialism) with fire (socialism), so in short, marxist theory did nothing but plunge the world war and totalitarian regimes (both communist and fascist).
The most disgusting thing is that he is a renegade. And a christian taliban: according to him all the guys that do not believe in his stupidities will go in a superAuschwits after passing away...
You apparently believe that Christians have a right to exist (and you apparently have no sympathy for them when they are tortured). By your logic wouldn't that make you an "athiest/communist taliban"??
Wasn't it the communists who said that the "bourgeoisie" (middle class and merchant class) had no right to exist? Then they waged bloody revolutions and class warfare which eventually swept the whole world into war.
Yes, they have the right to exist, as all the other religions. My problem with Wurmbrand is that he is a hate-monger, I do not think that Jesus would be proud with such an "apostle". O have read his book "Jesus in underground": he cries for avenge. He is a taliban.
Don't the communists teach that religion is the "opiate of the masses" and must be destroyed??
So when Christians stick up for themselves they are "hate mongers"??
If we say a philosophy or ideology is wrong or sinful then we are a "hate-monger"? The blood of Able cries for vengence and that is the great hope of the believer when Messiah returns. Richard Wurmbrand is not alone, the blood of the millions massacred by communism and the soclialist international cries from the very ground.
Common, don't be stupid, worshiper. Who killed more innocents, communists or christians? Yes, when you preach that the Truth belongs to you, you are not only hate-mongers, but potentially murderers.
Communist killed more people in a 40 year period then Christians did in 2000 years. Also, make sure you do not confuse the Roman catholic institution as Biblical Christianity because it was not.
Marx himself openly professed allegiance to satan. Marx had a personal hate for the jewish and Christian God YHWH. If you consider yourself a follower of marx then you are putting yourself in allegience with the adversary.
What is that "Biblical Christianity"? Baptists, or what? Do not confuse communism with Stalin. Communism comes from your Jesus: the rich have a small probability to enter the heaven, no? And, look at Anania and Shafira: the first christians WERE communists. So, an anticommunist cannot be a christian. Wurmbrand is a Satanist.
@radurambo Have you read anything that Richard wrote. He was one of the greatest men of God I have ever heard of. To say he was a satanist. Karl marx was the satanist, fact.
@marleymike2 Of course I have read "With Jesus in underground" (cu Isus in subterana) which made me sick. This guy was crying for revenge. NO. dear, Wurmbrand was NEVER a man of GOD - only if your God is EVIL.
@radurambo Marx was also an awful racist. He expressed a satanic hatred of all things Judeo-Christian and openly proclaimed himself to be working in opposition to the God of the Bible. His writings plunged the world into two World Wars and a "Cold War". How than can Christians view him as anything BUT satanic? He often used the term "jewish nigger" and advocated the mass genocide of various ethnicities which he considered "racial trash" such as the Scots, Bretons, Basques, Poles, Serbs etc.
"And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?" - Revelation 6:9-10
This man is a renegate communist. He was in prison as a communist and renegated in 1937. No respect. Yes, COMMUNISM is the logical consequence of CHRISTIANISM. Wurmbrand, you should be ashemed of yourself.
You should be ashamed of yourself radurambo. Richard Wurmbrand was a communist (as were many people with a jewish background in Romania at that time) UNTIL he was saved by Christ and repented of his communism. He was thrown in prision BY the communists because he was a practicing Christian. You must be confused. And you are wrong, Biblical Christianity is opposed to some of the most basic tenets of communism/marxism. Sounds to me like you have been listening to the Jesuits.
A comparation between the other Jew saved by Christ (Steinhardt) and Wurmbrand will explain you why Wurmbrand should be ashamed of himself. Wurmbrand was NOT a disident, he was a traitor of his old religion, a renegade. And full of HATE against the communists. Yes, communism is the consequence of christianism.
Greed is not a tenet of capitalism. There are wicked and greedy people who can take advantage of a free market system but that doesnt mean the system itself is wrong or greedy. Corrupt people also thrive in a socialist system, actually they benefit moreso because they do not have a free market system to compete against.
@WorshipInTruth : I am surprised to see that you even do not know why was Wurmbrand put to jail. Compare him with another christian Jew, much more decent that he: Nicolae Steinherdt. Compare "Jurnalul Fericirii" with Wurmbrand's Jesus.
@unclesamfatg The inquisitors were catholics, they persecuted Protestants and other true Christians. Many Christians successfully make the argument that catholicism is not even Christianity. The slave owners?? Yes many slave owners were "Christian", not everybody who has claimed to be a Christian throughout history has been perfect. It is actually a fact that the slave trade was started by muslims and ended by Christians, many powerful slave traders were actually jews and muslims.
radurambo how does he "deny you the right to be a communist", he hasnt persecuted you at all, it was the communists who denied him the religious liberty to be a Christian.
Easy. He thinks that the communists are satanists. THus they shouldn't be allowed to exist. He is a christian taliban. In my country we, the communists, are forbidden.
Finally: I love Christ, for me he was a great communist. That's why He was crucified...
radurambo 2 years ago
Jesus Christ was not a communist and marxist/socialist theory has nothing at all to do with why he was crucified. If you want to know why he was crucified than try actually read the Bible. Communists persecute Christians and therefore they are persecuting Christ. When you persecute the believer you are persecuting Christ as Christ dwells in the believer. Jesus said to Saul (who was a persecutor of Christians), "Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?".
Stop persecuting the Lord and his Bride.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago 4
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Amen!!!!!!!!
azzurrini85 1 year ago
The Bible is very clear as to why Jesus was crucified. I am shocked that you are so ignorant as to say that Jesus was crucified because he was a "great communist". He was crucifed to fulfill prophecy, they killed him because he claimed to be the Christ. His work on the cross was to be the propitiation and atonement to heal the rift between God and man. The work of Christ on the cross was the "Great Work", the communists have a different "great work" which has nothing to do with Messiah.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
Any religion is true and OK with me as long as it comes on you freely AND is not potentially murderous. When you say that I, a communist, am Satanists, the logical conclusion is that you should kill me in order to fight Satana. Do not make a fool pf yourself.
radurambo 2 years ago
Yet I have power within my youthful arms
To clench and crush you [i.e., personified humanity] with tempestuous force,
While for us both the abyss yawns in darkness.
You will sink down and I shall follow laughing,
Whispering in your ears, Descend, come with me, friend. - Marx in his drama "Oulanem"
The materialistic based theories of Marx will only lead you to hell.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
Nowhere in the Bible does it say Christians should kill "satanists" or anybody else. For........
"we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." - Ephesians 6:12
Your communist beliefs of course call for revolution murder and the ELIMINATION of whole classes of people.
How can you be so naive?
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
Your hate causes a bias which blinds you to reason.
You hate that which you do not understand and you do not understand Christianity because you are not one of the elect. You can war against Christ but it will only lead to your own destruction.
You should reconsider.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
Wow! I think I know: you are a witness of JHWH. In that case I forgive you, the rest of Christians do not think that you are Christian at all.
radurambo 2 years ago
I am not a "Jehovah's witness" if thats what you are implying.
What is "Biblical Christianity"?? It can be found in the Bible, but yes, out of all the denominations certain independent Baptists are probably the closest to Biblical Christianity as far as correct dogma goes.
Forget Stalin, even without stalin, communist regimes massacred hundreds of millions of people. What about the bolshevik destruction of Russia? Mao's mass killing of Chinese, what about pol pot and many many others.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
@WorshipInTruth The communist "crimes" are much exagerated. What about "christian crimes"? What about crusades, decimation of Amerindians, slavery? Is Jesus guilty fot them? If your answer is YES, I can accept that I, a communist am guilty for Stalin's crimes.
radurambo 1 year ago
@radurambo I can prove that the teachings of Marxism advocate violent revolution and class warfare. Can you say the same about the teachings of Jesus? Stalin is the natural result of socialistic philosophy in action, can you blame the horrors caused by the institution of the catholic church on Jesus? Of course not.. Your comparison is ridiculous and insults my intelligence.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth Aha! "I have not come to bring you the Peace, but the Sword!"; the whipping of priests in Temple; and, Paul's words "I say you the Truth, that the time will come when all those that are not with us are agains us".
radurambo 1 year ago
@radurambo You also understand nothing of the Bible so for you to comment on it is foolishness. The Apostles and others expected Messiah to come, set up his kingdom, rule the world from Jerusalem bringing peace to the Judean people but that is not why he came the first time, the first time only the sword was brought to the people, Messiah was crucified and the Christian persecuted by the Romans and the jews just as the communists do.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth Is there only a single way to understand Bible? How come then that there exists several hundreds Christian religions?
radurambo 1 year ago
@radurambo There exists only one Christian religion. There are many denominations, but only one Faith. The Bible is clear in what it teaches, there are imposters who would confuse the obvious meaning of scripture to suit their political or social agenda. You are one of those people. You realize that communism is also broken into countless sects correct? Your argument is in reality a meaningless non-argument. Spare me your pointless drivel.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth You astonish me. So Othodox = Catholic = Monophisite = Arian = nestorian = Lutheran = Calvinist = Anglican = Baptist = Adventist = Mennonit = Amish = Jehova's witness = ....????
Or maybe there is only ONE TRUE CHRISTIAN - you (perhaps together witgh Wurmbrand). The rest of them should rot in hell, no?
radurambo 1 year ago
@radurambo
As I said, many denominations, only one Faith. The faith as handed down by the Apostles and as recorded in Holy Writ (The Bible).
How far a certain sect or denomination deviates from Scripture is how far it has fallen from the true Faith. Many of the denominations you have mentioned (i.e Luthern, Calvinst, [low church] Anglican, Baptist, Adventist, Mennonite, Amish) teach practically the exact same thing with only a few deviancies.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@radurambo As a Protestant, I relate to most of the aforementioned groups one way or another. Now it is questionable as to whether or not catholics and jehovahs witnesses can be considered Christians. I do not consider jevovahs witnesses to be Christian, they are a non-Christian [lets just say quasi-Christian] sect. The same goes for many catholics.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@radurambo I consider myself a Christian first and foremost but if I had to describe my Christianity in more detail you could perhaps say that I am an Calvinistic Baptist (I also agree with many of the teachings of the SDA and I have much respect for Amish and mennonites). Eschatology wise I am basically a historicist.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth : Communism lies in human genes. Its history is millenar. Gracchi brothers were communists, Spartacus, Thomas Munzer. It is as plain as that: we should all be equal. Deny that? OK, then how do you measure us. By wealth? Jesus did not accept that. The faith? How do you measure it? Maybe MY faith is greater than yours. Religion is only between me and Lord. . Who can measure that? You? Maybe Marx is in heaven (no matter what Wurmbrand says) and Wurmbrand in hell. Who knows? You?
radurambo 1 year ago
@radurambo You are the one that astonishes me with your pitiful argument. That would be like me asking So Stalinist=Marxist=Leninist=Troskyite=Maoist=Schachtmanism=Anarcho-Communist=Bolshevik=Menshevik etc. etc.
Still do not even understand what your point is. So because there are different interpretations of the Bible than the Bible must be wrong? Is the Communist Manifesto wrong because there are different interpretations?
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth "Stop trying to act like Christians are bigots" (some christians are) , "no religionis allowed to exist in a truely marxist system. ". Well, this is simply wrong. What about Theology of Liberation? About Camilo Torres? And what is that "true marxist"? Marx never claimed that he is the owner of Truth. He wrote is articulated opinions, trying to put more epystheme than doxa. But he is not the inventator of Communism.
radurambo 1 year ago
@radurambo You mean "Liberation Theology"?? So I see that you are totally in the hands of the wicked Jesuits.
May God have mercy on you.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@radurambo You should know that the Jesuits are not true to the precepts of Marx, just as they are not true to the precepts of Christ.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@radurambo If you are going to attack Christianity than attack what is in the BIBLE just as I will attack what is in the Communist Manifesto.
We all deserve to rot in hell, that is why Jesus died for your sins so that if you believe on him you will be saved by the grace of God through faith in his precious shed blood. Stop trying to act like Christians are bigots, no Christianity (or any expression of religion for that matter) is allowed to exist in a truely marxist system. YOU ARE THE BIGOT
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth No, dear. Bible is not true, it is not false. The religions (and the ideologies) are not about false or true, they are about values. What is Good, what is Evil, how am I to live such that I shall not be ashamed on myself, things like that. If you want, all religions are "true" as far they do not teach to kill anyother people with different faith. Now, communism, is a secularized form of Christianity. It is about equality, fraternity and altruism. The Evil lies in exploiting
radurambo 1 year ago
@radurambo The fact that you say communist crimes are exaggerated just shows how utterly indoctrinated and biased you are in your historical conclusions. There really is no point in trying to argue with people like you because logic and facts mean nothing to you.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth : More than that, I tell you that if you are not a communist, you cannot be a Christian. Class warfare DOES exist, the problem is whom do you support? I support the weak (like Jesus); you support the Rich, as the Pharisees.
radurambo 1 year ago
@radurambo Jesus was not a materialist like you communists. It was never his goal to bring material wealth to the lower classes or to set up a system which would forcefully take property from people. Jesus's teachings are of a spiritual nature and transcend politics. Oh how people like you cheapen the Gospel of Christ. You claim communist supports the weak.. LAUGH. News flash, communism was funded by the fascist elitist capitalist international.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@radurambo "The classes and the races too weak to master the new conditions of life must give way... they must perish in the revolutionary holocaust (sacrifice)" - Karl Marx "People's Paper April 16 1859- Journal of the History of Ideas, Vol. 42. No 1. 1981.
He was truely a sick man and you are of a pathetic and perverted mind for falling for such garbage without even truely understanding what it is all about.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
What about the mass murder of south African whites which is being carried out by communists as we speak? Do you forget that the fascist (national socialist)movement was nothing but the REACTION to communist (marxist international socialism). The fascists were simply fighting fire (socialism) with fire (socialism), so in short, marxist theory did nothing but plunge the world war and totalitarian regimes (both communist and fascist).
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
The most disgusting thing is that he is a renegade. And a christian taliban: according to him all the guys that do not believe in his stupidities will go in a superAuschwits after passing away...
radurambo 2 years ago
You apparently believe that Christians have a right to exist (and you apparently have no sympathy for them when they are tortured). By your logic wouldn't that make you an "athiest/communist taliban"??
Wasn't it the communists who said that the "bourgeoisie" (middle class and merchant class) had no right to exist? Then they waged bloody revolutions and class warfare which eventually swept the whole world into war.
You are a damn fool.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
*Christians do not have a right to exist
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
Yes, they have the right to exist, as all the other religions. My problem with Wurmbrand is that he is a hate-monger, I do not think that Jesus would be proud with such an "apostle". O have read his book "Jesus in underground": he cries for avenge. He is a taliban.
radurambo 2 years ago
Don't the communists teach that religion is the "opiate of the masses" and must be destroyed??
So when Christians stick up for themselves they are "hate mongers"??
If we say a philosophy or ideology is wrong or sinful then we are a "hate-monger"? The blood of Able cries for vengence and that is the great hope of the believer when Messiah returns. Richard Wurmbrand is not alone, the blood of the millions massacred by communism and the soclialist international cries from the very ground.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
Common, don't be stupid, worshiper. Who killed more innocents, communists or christians? Yes, when you preach that the Truth belongs to you, you are not only hate-mongers, but potentially murderers.
radurambo 2 years ago
Communist killed more people in a 40 year period then Christians did in 2000 years. Also, make sure you do not confuse the Roman catholic institution as Biblical Christianity because it was not.
Marx himself openly professed allegiance to satan. Marx had a personal hate for the jewish and Christian God YHWH. If you consider yourself a follower of marx then you are putting yourself in allegience with the adversary.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
What is that "Biblical Christianity"? Baptists, or what? Do not confuse communism with Stalin. Communism comes from your Jesus: the rich have a small probability to enter the heaven, no? And, look at Anania and Shafira: the first christians WERE communists. So, an anticommunist cannot be a christian. Wurmbrand is a Satanist.
radurambo 2 years ago
@radurambo Have you read anything that Richard wrote. He was one of the greatest men of God I have ever heard of. To say he was a satanist. Karl marx was the satanist, fact.
marleymike2 1 year ago
@marleymike2 Of course I have read "With Jesus in underground" (cu Isus in subterana) which made me sick. This guy was crying for revenge. NO. dear, Wurmbrand was NEVER a man of GOD - only if your God is EVIL.
radurambo 1 year ago
@radurambo Marx was also an awful racist. He expressed a satanic hatred of all things Judeo-Christian and openly proclaimed himself to be working in opposition to the God of the Bible. His writings plunged the world into two World Wars and a "Cold War". How than can Christians view him as anything BUT satanic? He often used the term "jewish nigger" and advocated the mass genocide of various ethnicities which he considered "racial trash" such as the Scots, Bretons, Basques, Poles, Serbs etc.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
@radurambo You are clearly a Satanist aswell. Don't believe those lies. You do Richards memory an injustice.
marleymike2 1 year ago
"And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?" - Revelation 6:9-10
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
"And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel." - Hebrews 12:24
The blood of Jesus speaks better things then the blood of Abel (those murdered), it speaks PEACE and MERCY and JUSTICE!!
And justice will be served, in this both myself and the Scriptures testify.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
Tried it once, had my mouth near to full with salt,
it worked quite well, till my nose made funny breathing sounds.
Now, I just throw water on myself to keep moving and awake.
srnixdorf 2 years ago
Will try..Have tried before and it has worked before.
srnixdorf 2 years ago
This man is a renegate communist. He was in prison as a communist and renegated in 1937. No respect. Yes, COMMUNISM is the logical consequence of CHRISTIANISM. Wurmbrand, you should be ashemed of yourself.
radurambo 2 years ago
You should be ashamed of yourself radurambo. Richard Wurmbrand was a communist (as were many people with a jewish background in Romania at that time) UNTIL he was saved by Christ and repented of his communism. He was thrown in prision BY the communists because he was a practicing Christian. You must be confused. And you are wrong, Biblical Christianity is opposed to some of the most basic tenets of communism/marxism. Sounds to me like you have been listening to the Jesuits.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
A comparation between the other Jew saved by Christ (Steinhardt) and Wurmbrand will explain you why Wurmbrand should be ashamed of himself. Wurmbrand was NOT a disident, he was a traitor of his old religion, a renegade. And full of HATE against the communists. Yes, communism is the consequence of christianism.
radurambo 2 years ago
read his book TORTURED FOR CHRIST he even says we should love the communists inspite of the evil that they do
Jazzieboo101 2 years ago
jazzieboo that is correct. Jesus teaches that we should love our enemy and have mercy on them. Communism teaches no such thing.
radurambo is obviously a hopeless buffoon with no ability of critical thinking.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
FYI, Christianity is opposed to some of the most basic tenets of capitalism as well. Greed is a sin according to the Bible.
Y0uEnj0yMyself 2 years ago
Greed is not a tenet of capitalism. There are wicked and greedy people who can take advantage of a free market system but that doesnt mean the system itself is wrong or greedy. Corrupt people also thrive in a socialist system, actually they benefit moreso because they do not have a free market system to compete against.
Equal pay for unequal work just makes no sense.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
@WorshipInTruth : I am surprised to see that you even do not know why was Wurmbrand put to jail. Compare him with another christian Jew, much more decent that he: Nicolae Steinherdt. Compare "Jurnalul Fericirii" with Wurmbrand's Jesus.
radurambo 1 year ago
@WorshipInTruth How about the inquisition? Werent they christian? Or the slave-owners?
unclesamfatg 1 year ago
@unclesamfatg The inquisitors were catholics, they persecuted Protestants and other true Christians. Many Christians successfully make the argument that catholicism is not even Christianity. The slave owners?? Yes many slave owners were "Christian", not everybody who has claimed to be a Christian throughout history has been perfect. It is actually a fact that the slave trade was started by muslims and ended by Christians, many powerful slave traders were actually jews and muslims.
WorshipInTruth 1 year ago
wow where did u get ur info u need to research a little bit better before you draw a conclusion
Jazzieboo101 2 years ago
so you hate him because his political idioligy is different from yours? You kind of remind me of a extremest Muslim tbh.
Y0uEnj0yMyself 2 years ago
Wrong. I hate him because he is a scoundrel and a taliban. He denies me the right to be a communist.
radurambo 2 years ago
The Taliban is an extremest Muslim group, you just said he was a christian.
Y0uEnj0yMyself 2 years ago
radurambo how does he "deny you the right to be a communist", he hasnt persecuted you at all, it was the communists who denied him the religious liberty to be a Christian.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
Easy. He thinks that the communists are satanists. THus they shouldn't be allowed to exist. He is a christian taliban. In my country we, the communists, are forbidden.
radurambo 2 years ago
Or to have any religious beliefs outside of humanist materialism for that matter.
WorshipInTruth 2 years ago
Why don't you guys try it, since you all seem so relaxed about it.
Valahia2008 3 years ago
That sounded like great fun! Maybe I'll try that method on some christtards the next time I torture some of them..Thanks for that idea!
winterstellar 3 years ago
wouldn't they die?
redking15ca 4 years ago
Who?
astat1 3 years ago
the christian's that were fed salt...
redking15ca 3 years ago
I don't think someone would die from eating 4 spoons of salt and not drinking for a few hours. Would probably just suck.
Y0uEnj0yMyself 3 years ago
well... yea... but i thought this was a period of days without much food or water...
redking15ca 3 years ago
he didnt die from it
it was torture for them to deny Chrst
Jazzieboo101 2 years ago