Children and the vegan diet

[saucypup76]

if meat had health benefits then it would be on sale in health shops.END OF.

[MrBrutus101]

@saucypup76 There's too much hormones in meats today that's why it's not as good as it used to.

[OdinErickson1986422]

the viamin b12 is bullshit, i never took that

[MrBrutus101]

@OdinErickson1986422 Perhaps you do.

[seinfeildsucks]

Sample of what should be in your kids lunch box for school are as followed. 1.Trail mix (peanuts, dehydrated fruits) 2.black bean soup (In a thermos) 3.freshly pressed carrot juice. 4. Bulgur wheat with mixed veggies such as zucchini and spinach etc. 5.Textured soy protein with barbecue sauce and 6. A cooked vegetable. 7.Chilled herbal tea (such as Tazo awake). 8. organic juice box (no sugar added) and 9. juice box of pure coconut water.10. a salad. Anything else would be uncivilized.

[seinfeildsucks]

I heard of a parent feeding their children soy milk and apple juice at 6 weeks and the child died from malnutrition. Soy is the WORST!!! thing you can feed a growing child period! Their are plenty of vegetables with protein in them other than soy such as lentils peanuts and other legumes. Make sure your child has plenty of vitamin supplements, protein, veggies and is extremely hydrated during school years. Your child need also an abundance of vitamin D and lipids like tomatoes etc.

[MrVeggieman11]

Not only is a vegan diet the only reasonable ethical option to reduce animal suffering, it's also the only reasonable option for the environment and for your health. I wish I was raised vegan and I would be healthier now. Only recently made change from vegetarian who ate free range eggs and drank cow's milk and ate cheese to proper vegan.

[dharmasmami]

My daughter has been vegetarian from birth and I have been vegan for a while now and my husband and child are now transitioning too! I don't buy many replacement foods apart from coconut milk for cereal and tea and bean pate! It's all about good food!

[informationgnrtr]

What you are going to raise is children with smaller brains depleted of animal fat. I don't think you should breastfeed your baby since you are an animal and thus that will make you baby not a vegan! OMG!

[seinfeildsucks]

@informationgnrtr That is incorrect. Children can still get the neccasary protein needed on a vagen diet and still excel in school if you feed them high protein such as lentils and peanuts or any legumes. Stay away from soy unless its textured soy bean products such as tvp or soy sauce. Make sure they eat fruits like lots of bananas. Give them only whole grains. Keep them hydrated and give them supplements like vitamin D, Iron, folic acid and vitamin b12. Whole food is the key in a vagan diet.

[MrBrutus101]

@seinfeildsucks Humans are not meant to be vegan. That's why I'm semi-vegetarian. 

[smartverity]

@seinfeildsucks TVP is not good to give to kids. The supplements you mention should be gained from the food not artificial supplements. B12 is really the only supplement anyone needs to take on a vegan diet & even then no where near as much as we're told we need. Vit D can be gained from the sun (which kids love to play out in) then in winter, plenty of mushrooms. The more raw they'll eat the better.

[saucypup76]

Anyway,who says meat is healthy anyway?science has prooved red meat in excess can cause bowel cancer,u only have to look at middle aged people in this country to see it aint healthy,they are fat,and far far far from bieng 'healthy'.

its abnormal to eat meat,we are not carnivores,we dont have the means to hunt and kill animals without using tools or butchers .picture yourself running round a field trying to wrestle a cow to the ground so u could make a burger haha go vegan

[elatus]

@saucypup76 Our hominid ancestors ate meat. Most scientists think our large brains were able to evolve because of the extra protein meat provides. Before the agricultural revolution human society was much more hunter than gatherer, meat made up the majority of the diet. In this very video Leila says B12 supplementation is vital during pregnancy for the child. Meat is a fantastic source of nutrition, a balanced vegan diet takes careful planning with knowledge only recently available to us.

[saucypup76]

@elatus yes i do see your point,though i beg to differ.i have no kids but if i did i i would be concerned too,but there are many supplements now 4 vegans so i  think the health benefits outweigh the 'big brains' theory,in fact,meat and processed foods are SOLELY responsible for obesity and the majority of heart/cholesterol type related diseases,plus god knows what else ,so i put forward to you the 'BIG STOMACH THEORY' haha,sorry

[informationgnrtr]

@saucypup76 A proper diet does not need supplements. Hello? How natural is that? For the good of your children abandon that flawed vegan idea.

[saucypup76]

@informationgnrtr yes i suppose.I wont argue over this because theres no telling someone who eats meat as they wont accept its wrong,to be honest my real point is moral and humane not health.still ,meat might be full of protein as u say,but what else?does it have vitamins?minerals?other than bieng full of protien what does it provide.fair enough if u are a bodybuilder ?modern diet has been proved to contain too much protien,but hey who am i to criticise.

[saucypup76]

@informationgnrtr yes but i am a single guy so i dont bother cooking much..my diet isnt really too healthy so i take vitamins to keep up.

[MrBrutus101]

@saucypup76 Vegan diet is just a fad. Just like the iPhone fad and any other fad that came along and died.

[saucypup76]

@MrBrutus101 A fad?If you really believe that you are very very badly informed.It may be a fad to a few dieters but for most vegans it is something far beyond a fad.Try googling A.L.F and see how some people feel.

[MrBrutus101]

@saucypup76 Vegan diet is healthy for adults. Not for children. You're not a medical professional.

[saucypup76]

@MrBrutus101 I may not be a medical professional,but then neither are you.Besides,any idiot who truly believes its healthy to feed a child or anyone else a dead animal is misaligned.Meat is a money making industry,nothing more nothing less.

Some countries eat puppies and horses regularly,they probably think THATS good for their kids,others think eating tiger penis will make them 'velly stwong and bwave'.But you do have a good point.I'm sure.I appreciate what u r saying.Merry Christmas

[MrBrutus101]

@saucypup76 You have to be careful what you feed children. By imposing your own belief to children who can't make decisions for themselves is immoral.

That can raise an eyebrow from social services.

[saucypup76]

@MrBrutus101 Look,you obviously dont seem to care either way so whats the point?Talk about hung up,why are u even LOOKING at this page?just to troll other comments?its a page to inform vegans on a vegan diet for children so why u here?u obviously eat meat?goodbye

[MrBrutus101]

@saucypup76 Animal abuse is not an excuse for being vegan. Plants are living things too. They may not bleed or experience pain, but you're killing plants by eating them.

So if you are so worried about animals, you should be consistent and extend moral significance to plants and other eukaryotes.

[informationgnrtr]

@saucypup76 Go look at HEALTHY people eating animal foods. America eats too much crap to be the basis for

any epidemiological study.

[saucypup76]

besides,who ever heard of a meateter who eats meat for their health?be honest,its just greed,health never crosses their minds,its only when challenged about it they start whinging on about their health as an excuse because deep down they know ITS WRONG .

[saucypup76]

one day meat farming will no longer exist and wont be allowed.

[keeyk118b]

i am for banning factory farming animals and only allowing free range meat to be sold. people would be forced to eat much less meat to save money. people would be slimmer and healthier. my ideal diet for adults :red meat one serving per week. fish/ white meat 3 servings per week.eggs maximum 4 per week. plenty of whole fruits grains and veggies.

[bryanhudsonyork]

Wouldn't it be good if the Vegan Diet was know and understood as the "Human Diet"

[MrBrutus101]

@bryanhudsonyork It's not a human diet. Humans hunted and farmed. We are meant to eat plants and animals.

[azrodrigues]

@bryanhudsonyork dropping vitamin b12 pills isn't natural..

[soymilkmilk]

WOOO ! GO VEGAN!

[kelsohammy]

One of my closest friends is vegan, and is by far the healthiest person I know. If you inform yourself about how to receive proper nutrition it is very, VERY possible to remain healthy. To call vegans "retards" and "brainwashed" is just utterly false. It is a very common misconception that vegans are unhealthy and kill their babies. While there may be cases of this occurring, it is due to either other health conditions or people who simply did not take the steps to ensure proper nutrition.

[seymourLlama]

@kelsohammy Why don't you go vegan yourself?

There are unhealthy vegans just like there are unhealthy non vegans, but veganism or non veganism doesn't influence how good or badly ou eat, knowledge in nutrition does. Plant-based diets, even unequilibrated, are already, by default, less bad for health than non vegan diets though. While both unequilibrated plant-based and meat-based diets contribute to babies deaths, equilibrate meat-based diets are the only ones who still harm babies/everyone.

[kelsohammy]

@seymourLlama I'm not sure if that whole comment was directed at me, because I agree with you that meat-based diets are worse for both people and the environment. But to answer your question, I've considered going vegan. I'm vegetarian now, and may work my way up to it.

[seymourLlama]

@kelsohammy Why do you seem so unconviced that you will go vegan? What is keeping you back? Animals are counting on you.

[kelsohammy]

@seymourLlama I'm not unconvinced, I'm just doing the responsible thing and considering everything that goes into it, including nutrition, before I just jump in and do it. I respect you for your vegan choice, though! I've only been vegetarian for a year now, and I consider it a process rather than a sudden decision. But I am still in the process and dedicated to doing right by animals.

[kelsohammy]

@seymourLlama Also I find it to be a bit of a stretch to call vegetarianism "extremely unhealthy." It is very possible to be healthy and be a vegetarian.

[kokoin]

Woyah Andressohn aged 5 months, Lorie Atikian aged 17 months, Eric & Laura Cottam aged 14 and 12, Caleb Moorhead aged 6 months, Iice Swinton aged 16 months, A'maya Tamerry aged 10 months. All of these children died as a result of vegan diet... Im vegetarian myself but I make sure I consume enough vitamin B12, i would definitely not advise restricting your child's diet, let them make their own choice...

[seymourLlama]

@kokoin They didn't die because of the vegan diet, they died because their parents were uninformed on nutrition. There are thousands of children who die from being fed a non vegan diet, so why are you eating a non vegan diet? Vegetarianism, just like any form of non veganism, is extremely unhealthy. Animal protein, cholesterol and saturated fats are the biggest contributors to most forms of cancer, to osteoporosis, (especially in children: diabetes, autism, asthma, obesity).

[seymourLlama]

@kokoin You can get vegan B12 from fortified plant milk (rice, soy, hemp, almond, potato, etc.), tofu, spirulina, nutritional yeast, etc. The B12 in the animal secretions you eat is coming from supplements (that are fed to the animals), hardly a "natural" source of B12. Why are you even vegetarian? Vegetarianism contributes in no way to stopping the exploitation of animals. You kill just as many animals by being vegetarian as by eating meat, and you eat just as much harmful foods.

[kokoin]

@seymourLlamaDo the math, my reason is less harm to animals as I don't exploit pigs and minimize demand on farm animals overall.

Vegansociety. com quote - If for any reason you choose not to use fortified foods or supplements you should recognise that you are carrying out a dangerous experiment.

[medun4o2]

vegan retards - articles.mercola. com/sites /articles/archive/2011/04/11/h­ow-moms-vegan-diet-unintention­ally-killed-her-innocent-child­.aspx

[keysmmzero]

While it is possible to survive semi-healthy withotu meat, it;s extremely highly unlikely that you will get the protein and B12 needed with a meat free diet. VERY unlikely. I can go on and can site scientific proof but the vegans are so brainwashed and closed minded that it would be pointless.

[keysmmzero]

Most...well...all the vegans that I know and know of are VERY unhealthy. My girlfriends dad cannot even support his own frame he is so weak. His diet is only oatmeal with raisons for the morning meal, and then he had one more meal which is nothing more that carrt/apple/cellary juice. He;s 7th day adventists and is brainwashed into thinking that he is eating a healthy diet.

[kelsohammy]

@keysmmzero You should encourage them to research further. It is very possible to be both healthy and very strong. If a vegan diet is consumed correctly, it is very likely they will be both healthier and stronger than the average individual. It sounds like man you speak of has not researched how to eat properly. If you see people struggling, suggest a few of the many very helpful vegan eating sites. It doesn't have to be difficult or expensive, and results in very healthy eating!

[TheSeaboat]

Besides; we all know how important it is to eat according to SEASON. It's not natural to eat pine apple all day living in North America or Scandinavia. You eat what grows around you naturally and in season. I did vega/fruitarinaism- got sick. I eat according to NATURE NOT MAN (health guru) - got healthy! If you live and learn fron the natives old style, you can still be healthy and thrive. And then have berries when ready, apples and pears when in season etc. It's marvelous!

[TheSeaboat]

B 12: found naturally in meats. Does she even know that the brain is made of cholesterol, the cells alike? The body cannot function without B12, cholesterol (animal fats, saturated fats). People get sick from breads, pastas, soy, sugars, syrups, artifical additives, aspartam, fenylanalin, importet fruits, too much fruits (sugars all the same...) not grass fed meat, mylks and so forth. How many of these vegan babies will develop neurological disorders!? Scary Movie for real

[benjorgensen1]

@TheSeaboat hey, she did mention this mid video... i'm pretty sure there are plenty of vegetable sources of B12. one is real sauerkraut (not from ordinary store, this kind has no b vitamin due to the process of heating it and preparing it in a sterile environment) also nutritional yeast has it. i read that B12 is a byproduct of a certain bacteria and that in other countries it is prevalent in food prep because of subpar sterilization of food prep areas, not sure about other germs though..

[demacksful]

wow dis is retarded 

[LAWAGO]

this woman is a real doctor?

[zeallright]

@LAWAGO  I dunno, but she is hot!

[healthfreak18]

Thank You for this video.

[127gggwtf]

I am a vegan 13 year old, I've only been vegan for about half a year, but I'm sooo much healthier and still going strong

[Wivanunu]

True...the younger you start the better!! I've been trying to switch over to healthier whole foods for my family and I hear, "this is icky!" quite a bit!

[BoooDave]

Anyone with a good understanding of evolution understands that the fact we went from vegitarian chimp-like animals, to the meat eating species we are, means that eating meat provides benefits. In the past, meat, like sweet energy rich things, would be hard to come by, so we crave them. Today, the healthiest diet, is probably a common sense mixture of occasional meat with regular and varied fruit and veg. NOT no meat at all. (And don't forget our dietry needs evolved with good exercise in mind.)

[RobertAlan15]

@BoooDave We've evolved past that now.

[BoooDave]

@RobertAlan15 On what do you base that assertion? Just because we have the ability to refrain from eating meat, doesn't mean it does not provide benefits and it certainly doesn't mean we've evolved beyond those benefits.

[marcluc1988]

Great video!



[theselector]

There's WAY TOO MUCH contradictory "evidence , studies & opinions" about diet ans what we should or shouldn't eat. It's to confusing and frustrating for the average person to work out. Throw in the mix the emotional aspect and the "fanatacism" of some (on both side of the fence) & it's enough to drive u bonkers. I think the best way is to eat sensibly and not go to extremes. A small amt of junk food on very rare occasions is OK.

[Merriden]

I thought this was an awesome video thank you. The B12 problem is a real issue and creates a very large question as to where we would get it if we weren't eating supplements. The only answer that I've seen anyone come up with that makes sense is from the bacteria in soils such as would be on a carrot if you just pulled it out of the ground, brused it off and ate it. Its also possible that the bad food we eat kills the beneficial bacteria we need that produce B12.

[perkelation]

@Merriden Ummm just spend more time touching the earth... Garden with your bare hands! Walk barefoot! Totally absorbing the B12 you need. You can get your blood levels tested to be sure, and to prove it.

[gledalac1979]

@PeaceLoveFace

Vitamin D activates immune system and when there is a lack of there is diabetes type 1. You are right about obesity but obesity is made by a fat storing hormone insulin which gets activated only when there is too much simple sugar in the blood so it's absolutelly true that too much sugar causes diabetes and obesity

[gledalac1979]

@PeaceLoveFace

Type 1 diabetes is caused by lack of vitamin D in the womb and early life. Diabetes type 2 is caused directly by too much simple sugar consumption which was not done by prior generations. Cancer is caused simply by too much free radical damage and not enough anti oxidants. Sugar is a drug like heroin and is the most dangerous thing that humans consume . These are all scientific facts but the international media and global governments don't want eneducated peoples to know it.

[gledalac1979]

this is child neglect and torture. Vegeterians are traitors to human race. Diabetes and Cancer are caused by sugar not by animal food, this video is propaganda

[jjhaywood]

I'm not Vegan, but even I know enough to know that you don't know anything. Get off the internet and read some books you ignoramous.

[Merriden]

@gledalac1979 Yes Vegetarians are causing less death and disease in the world as well as using up fewer non-renewable resources but we're traitors to our own race..................ok, you are free to vent your own insanity and we are all free to make the world a better place. Bye

[nwendt06]

awesome bit of information, wish my parents were informed and raised me vegan!! bec now i know the vegan way is the only way!

[shazpie]

im vegan, and one day when i have kids i will also bring them up vegan, but what i dont understand is when i mention this to people, they have a little whinge about how its not healthy and that its not fair on the child, and that they should be able to choose later on if they want to be vegan or not, but the way i see it, is that it goes both ways, whether you eat meat or not, what if i bring them up on a meat diet and later in life they choose to be vegan, why is eating meat so normal?

[jenzieX3]

yeah and its better off that way cuz kids these days dont even eat veggies.

let them choose later on.

[gledalac1979]

@shazpie

because humans evolved eating animals meat on land and in water. Because only in animals can you find omega 3 fatty acids,B12, cholesterol, vitamin D etc...

[1221solstice2012]

That is a lie. I get omega-3 fat from flaxseed meal, you make your own cholesterol as needed from fat, 45% of meat eaters are B12 deficient while vegans who supplement have no problem, vitamin D is in sunshine and fortified products...even cow's milk is fortified with vitamin D. ...WTF is this guy doing?

[MrBrutus101]

@1221solstice2012 In the long run, you will realize humans do not have the same physiology as a cow.

[1221solstice2012]

@MrBrutus101 I've never eaten grass, the cow's natural diet, you vegan-obsessed lunatic :-)

[MrBrutus101]

@1221solstice2012 The grass parallels that of veggies and fruits. My former professor was a vegan for 3 years and her bone density dropped dramatically. It's hard to get enough calcium from plants.

[1221solstice2012]

@MrBrutus101 Obsessed much? I'm vegan 20+ years and not so young but pass for much younger; my bones & everything else are mighty fine, but thanks for all that heartfelt concern, lol. Calcium is in almonds, green leafy veggies, blackstrap molasses, figs, fortified almond milk, tofu processed with calcium salts, most of which I eat daily, no problem...grass I don't like; but in nature, cows get calcium and everything else including B12 from grass, not from stealing another species' milk.

[MrBrutus101]

@1221solstice2012 LOL! Cows are built differently from humans. Not a great parallel.

[smartverity]

@MrBrutus101 Exactly why you shouldn't be consuming their dairy because you're not a cow and can't process it, your not designed to process it. Case in point.

[MrBrutus101]

@1221solstice2012 I'm not going to stop you, but you will find out soon enough. It's good to be vegetarian, but not 100% raw.

Are you angry? It's a good sign of chemical imbalance.

[1221solstice2012]

@MrBrutus101 Where do you get "anger" from what I said? Paranoia is a better sign of chemical imbalance as well as repressed guilt, especially when your in a vast majority. Nice straw man attempt about the cows again...I already told you where we humans should get our calcium, not from grass, I just made the point that all our needed nutrition comes from good, rich soil... nutball :-) And I'm not a raw foodie but have no problem with those who are; I try to eat a lot of raw fruits & veggies.

[MrBrutus101]

@1221solstice2012 I don't recomment 100% raw. That's why i'm flexitarian. Although sashimi sounds really good. I do raw egg, banana, and papaya in blender in the morning.

Sorry I want to argue more, but I have to go to a New Year's Eve party. Cheers!

[smartverity]

@MrBrutus101 If you can go 100% then it's the ultimate in natural health (you don't see any other species on earth roasting food by the spitfire). 75% is likely the highest the average person can achieve with winter being the hardest and most testing season. The more you go raw though the less taste you have for cooked, I say this from experience. The key is in gradual steps from cooked to raw; allow for transition.

[marcluc1988]

@gledalac1979 You talk nonsense. We make our own cholesterol and it's bad for you - heart problems if you take it from outside sources (e.g. animal products), Omega 3 & 6 are available from plants. Vitamin D is from UV light (i.e. sunlight) and other vegan sources. B12 is from bacteria.

[OdinErickson1986422]

i was raised vegan, its better so DO IT!

[MrBrutus101]

@OdinErickson1986422 Do you even know how to rotate vegan to semi-vegetarian diet?

Complete vegan is not healthy.

[AppleSouffle]

The vegetarians of Southern India eat a low-calorie diet very

high in carbohydrates and low in protein and fat. They have

the shortest life span of any society on Earth, and their

bodies have an extremely low muscle mass. They are weak and

frail and the children clearly exhibit a failure to thrive.

Their heart disease rate is double that of the meat eaters in

Northern India.

HL Abrams. Vegetarianism: An anthropological/nutritional evaluation. J of App Nutrit, 1980, The Myths of Vegetarianism.

[MrBrutus101]

@AppleSouffle Humans are not suppose to be Vegans. What are you a cow?

[MrBrutus101]

@shazpie It's unethical to impose your ideal diet to your kids. Let them choose what they want. Let them be kids because it's only for a few years.

[glowingdarkmatter25]

Some children will choose poorly and some won't. My nieces and nephews all know what healthy eating is. They love salad, fruit, and meat. They sometimes have the junk, but most of the time it is all good eating.

[PROFLOP1]

Before I go to too much trouble, does this video accept scientific reports as evidences AGAINST some aspects of a VEGAN diet ? Do you realize that ALL soy products contain estrogen like compounds that interfere with an infant and preadolescent male sexual development ?

[ConsciousCosmic]

Does a vegan diet need to contain soy products? You make it seem as if it's necessary.

[Airox2009]

I`m very interested in veganism but still am not quite sure about vitamin B12. If you have to take B12 supplements, there must be something wrong with the diet IMO.

[Littleone89]

All women are advised by their doctors to take vitamins during and after the pregnancy. Meat-eaters or not. Years ago, women died in child-birth and pregnancy because they didn't get enough vitamins and minerals, so that's why the success rate of pregnancy now-a-days is so much better than in the past. Vitamins and better preparation before and during pregnancy.

[viveleraw]

@Airox2009 then the meat and dairy is bad too b/c they say you should take a multi vitamin to be healthy and calcium for your bones. It's something to think about.

[vegansnowboarder]

Funny, as I have a friend who is 23 years old. He has been vegan his entire life and is 6 feet 2 inches tall and in amazing physical and mental shape. No evidence of any kind of abuse has ever taken place.

[underoathxxxxxx]

I sadly grew up on the standard American diet. First, years ago, I stopped drinking milk. Then I went vegetarian, and now I'm vegan<3

[rachdaraveXcore]

im vegan! and underoath freakin rock dude (just saying) :P

[kangarooelaine]

I grew up vegetarian and now I'm vegan :)

[quasim0do]

"Children eat in later life, as adults, what they were used to eating as a children."

I don't agree with this. In fact, most vegans in the western world today was probably raised on a standard diet.

Also, I've met several people who grew up on vegan or vegetarian food who started eating meat as adults.

But I agree that the chances that a person will eat a healthy diet as an adult is a great deal bigger if they were raised on one.

[InvisiMan2006]

I think the reality is that if what you are teaching your child is POSITIVE, they will stick with it through adulthood.

The people you've met who have been vegans and switched to eating meat most likely lack self-respect and may not care that they are doing harm to themselves. I'm sure there are vegan smokers, but I'll bet that their percentage is much lower than meat-eating smokers.

Raise your child with love and a positive outlook and you won't fail.

[BaileysBeads]

Love and a positive outlook is not enough. You can teach them all the love and positivity in the world, if you feed them unhealthy shit alongside they'll simply turn into obese depressed adults.

[InvisiMan2006]

Of course, you have to imply that you are still doing what's best for your child along with giving them a positive upbringing. Any parent that "loves" their child and still poisons them with processed foods has it all wrong.

The great thing about a vegan diet (mostly raw) is that you have a clear mind and you are less prone to falling into traps to so many others.

[meganovatron]

Raising children on a vegan diet is a form of child abuse, they have no choice and their bodies need these things to become healthy. Allow them to choose when they are old enough and then you are being completely respectful of them, otherwise it is as if they never had a choice.

You forget that you are a person who has a choice that you do not respect in your own off spring to choose themselves without disrespecting you. Your so negative when talking about non vegans. Your kids have no choice.

[InvisiMan2006]

Can you please elaborate on WHAT they are getting from meat/dairy that would benefit them?

There is one study after another that shows less meat/no-meat and more fruits and veggies is the most beneficial to human health.

Knowing that meat/dairy is the CAUSE of most disease, I believe it would be child abuse to include those in your childs diet.

FYI: My kids were born vegan and are very well adjusted and compassionate towards animals, humans and the planet.

[meganovatron]

No, because I was talking about THEIR choice. They don't have one. And I think that any study would show that a balanced diet is not going to hurt you. I don't think eating hot dogs is really a good idea either. But like I said before, let your kids choose.

FYI: I'm Chippewa, grew up growing plants on my native lands in Wisconsin and I also respect animals, and the planet. And even humans, regardless of their over blown selfishness and pride. I just like kids to be able to have choices.

[InvisiMan2006]

I'm sorry, but if you let kids choose, they will pick candy, big macs and pop over what's healthy. Even adults make those mistakes and I'm not willing to let my child destroy their health.

You can certainly go ahead and raise your own children like that, but you wouldn't be doing them any favors.

[meganovatron]

Yes, but that's a part of being a child. You make mistakes and learn. I get it you want your kids to be healthy, I'm all for that. But people get sick regardless of diet. My concern with these movements is that they portray people that are not like you, who have different opinions and diets as bad people. May you and your children live wonderful healthy lives. I just hope they don't end up looking down on people who do not have the same lifestyle or opportunities.

[PowerSurge352]

meganovatron wrote: "Raising children on a vegan diet is a form of child abuse"

Actually it is nothing to do with child abuse. Is raising children on a Kosher diet child abuse? You don't know what you are talking about.

"they have no choice and their bodies need these things to become healthy."

1. Grown ups don't ask children what they want to eat, we plan meals for them - I think you've got it backwards.

2. Carnivorous diet is abusive more than the other way around.

[meganovatron]

nesha na whanna ho tep sca heca

[seymourLlama]

@InvisiMan2006 I would just like to point out that veganism isn't about not harming yourself, it's about not exploiting animals, so it's not inconsistent for vegans to smoke or eat unequilibrated diets (vegan junk food!)

Vegans who go back to being non vegan were never vegan in the first place. Veganism is a life-long commitment to nonviolence, not something you can stop being, just like someone deeply involved with LGBT rights won't become homophobic.

[crazywanch101]

@InvisiMan2006 My best friend is a Vegan smoker, thanks for your comment though it brightened my day.

[MrBrutus101]

@crazywanch101 LOL vegan smoker. It's like you're a vegetarian who eats raw meat.