I've spent a LOT more money on t-shirts and tickets than on cd's. Isn't that way more profitable for the bands than buying their cd's? I sometimes buy cd's when I have money though, but usually at a bargain price/used cd whenever possible. I doubt buying one at a store is going to profit the band a lot as a huge % of the cd price doesn't go the artist, right? Perhaps that should change.
Legalizing downloads however is bullshit. Or should I say sheepshit.
@aarongtr180 If it's not hard to understand then it shouldn't be hard for you to explain why downloading is stealing. If something is free to download, how is it stealing if I didn't need to pay for it?
@1337bard It's stealing intellectual property. For example, if someone comes up with an idea and copyrights it, you can't use it in your company just because it's not a material object. And if you "don't believe you can put a price tag on something that is intangible", what's the point of copyrights in the first place? And music was just recently made digitally available. Stealing records is considered stealing, so you can't say "downloading music isn't stealing" with a logical thought process.
@aarongtr180 The point of copyrights is so that people aren't going around profiting off of others work. But if there is no monetary exchange, then no one is profiting, so no one is losing except for the recording industry for printing too much. Because they don't want to accept the fact that most people just want the song files and not the pointless CD.
@1337bard So only once a form of media can be digitized should people download it for free? That doesn't seem morally consistent. Oh well, to each their own, I suppose.
@aarongtr180 I don't know why you think that, the person who rips the cd/dvd is usually the person that shares and seeds it. It's all for free, because it's illegal to profit from it. Think of the file-sharing community as a charity giving music to poor people. Besides the music industry has taken a bigger hit from iTunes than napster because nobody needs cd's anymore.
@1337bard The transition of music from CD's to the Internet does not suddenly make music worthless, in my opinion. And I wouldn't consider "charity" to be stealing from bands, who are usually not rich at all, to give to people who refuse to buy their music like everyone else.
@1337bard Oh, so stealing is ok as long as you don't make a profit from it? I'll steal your car and crash it then, shall I? I mean, I'm not making a profit from it, so that must be ok with you!
Well, piracy won't really hurt your buisiness that much ... you see, people who would buy your album will buy it anyway, and most of those who download it wouldn't have bought it anyway. Also, you get free advertising for your songs, you reach more people, and some of them will buy it, and in the and you maybe gain customers from pirating. If you deliver, people who really like you will pay for it.
Look at it from both sides. I've never actually bought a cd, because I simply can't find any cds from the bands that I listen to, and buying music online is rediculously expensive, to the point where music becomes exclusively reserved for the wealthy elite again. It's a brilliant opportunity for monopolies to develop as well. Besides, this discussion is about music as art versus music as business, eventually, I think.
De er to digre, skjeggete og hårete metalmusikere og det eneste jeg tenker når jeg ser den her "laste ned en sau" videoen er hvor søte de er og at jeg vil ha dem på fanget og luske dem i håret og snakke om dagen deres og sånt.
This is NOT the same as COPYING a music file. I would take your film serious if you COPIED the sheep so the farmer didn´t sell as many sheep as usual.
If you STEAL the sheep it´s the same as if I would steal a song from you and from now on use it myself and say it´s my music and sell it on the net...
as far as i am concerned the problem of downloading is killing music...unfortunately not the right music...ok thats a bit elitist but there are artists liek these guys, testament, the haunted (I know Peter the vocalist barely made it to their recent show at hellfest due to cash)...ok, if your too poor to afford it, i think its good to be able to get a copy..but its down to the individual to have the respect to pay for it if they can (idealism, yes-true, yes) the system been raped & has effects.
I but CD's sometimes, and I download both illegally and legally. Point is that when I buy a CD most of the money goes directly to the record company. The artist earn more from concerts if more people are able to hear the songs.
@essonet From what I've heard, youre correct, that it's the touring that makes money for the band, while record sales mostly go directly to the record company. If the band is on a small or indepent label, however, then they need you to buy their CDs to support them.
This is sort of off the topic, but I'm also offended when a band releases half an hour of music and expects me to pay full price for the "album."
@Grindermetalhead I think it's pretty clever...and it proves a point about politics. And downloading can bve stealing, hence they steal it. The idea of this law is a total shambles, downloading music sucks anyway...it'll never compare buying CD's, end of. Regardless of if they go on tours or sell merchandise, its still wrong. And they do go on tour. Dumbass.
@DragonForceGirl143 It's not clever. It's a logical fallacy. When you steal something, the owner is deprived of its possession. When you copy it, the owner still has the original. The sheep they "downloaded" is gone. If I download a song, they'll still have the original. It's not stealing. It's copying. Intellectual property is bullshit. And "downloading sucks" is just your opinion. I hate CD's. They are a waste of space which only collects dust once I rip the songs to my hard drive.
@Grindermetalhead Its a play of words...they're talking about the fact they are stealing their income, so they steal a sheep...there's no need to take it so serious as you are. And if you want to download, do it legally, so the band still gets come money. Well, thats what REAL fans do anyway...
@DragonForceGirl143 They ain't stealing shit because intellectual property is bullshit. These clowns believe that by listening to their song without paying for it, I'm somehow committing a theft. If I demanded you pay me a dollar for reading this comment because I claimed that these words belong to me, you'd laugh me out of youtube, yet it's somehow logical that I must pay money for a permission to listen to a song they created. That is just a mind-bogglingly imbecilic concept.
@Grindermetalhead Then you're obviously not a musician, because it's apparrent that you haven't quite wrapped you mind around the fact that an awful lot of us have been training our entire lives and putting countless hours of practice in to creating our art in the hopes that it might actually earn us a livelihood, only to have said hopes dashed by some dumbass like you who can't be bothered to spend an extra $10 that took one of us maybe a year and a half of sweat, blood, and tears to make.
@unblackcellofreak777 Actually I am. I have practiced for years and created multiple pieces of music, so your insinuation doesn't hold water. I have wrapped my mind around it and I came to a conclusion that Intellectual property is an intellectually void concept, based on nothing but a state granted monopoly and upheld by the threat and use of violence. Ideas aren't private property. They are shared, not owned. And if your sole inspiration for creativity is to cash in, you are not an artist.
@Grindermetalhead But that doesn't mean artists have to live poor. Even the guys in Testament have "blue collar" jobs as Alex put it. Who the hell HASN'T heard of Testament? It's stealing if you don't pay for it, just because you can't hold it doesn't change that. If what you say is true about ideas, then I should be able to cover a band's album and sell my version for money without giving them anything, and Burger King should be allowed to sell Big Macs.
@Livetoheadbang You go on tours and you play the songs live if you want to make money. You should be able to cover a band's album because by playing it yourself you're making it your own. Burger King and McDonald's are artificial entities that would not even exist if the state did not gave them personhood by law.
Big Mac is just an idea on how to arrange buns, meat, cheese and lettuce. You could make your own if you knew the recipe for the sauce and you wouldn't have to pay anyone royalties.
@Grindermetalhead Oh? Do you have any idea how much it costs to tour? Minus gas prices for driving a bus and towing equipment, if they want to go to a different country they have to pay about a thousand to fly each member, rhoadie, etc, a couple thousand more to fly over equipment, then play shows at clubs for $30 bucks a person, shared with the other bands. So if anyone can think of an idea and it doesn't matter who does it, why are you listening to this when you could make your own song?
@Livetoheadbang Just like any other business, touring has its expenses, but at the end of the day no one would do it if it wasn't profitable, so I don't see your point.
And I know it's rare, but sometimes cover songs can sound better than the the original version, and every time a band covers a song they are adding something unique to it, thus making it their own through unique interpretation.
It's like Opera. You can listen to dozens of interpretations of the same aria and each sounds unique.
@Grindermetalhead That's easy, because they're doing what they love :D I'd kill to be able to tour and play music, even if I just had enough to pay for the cost of living. But just like any business, you can't run into their 'store' and take things they put money, time, and effort into producing.
I've seen tons of songs where the cover is better is better than the original, but if it was as you described and it's so unique, then it wouldn't be a cover song at all, it would be an original.
@Damian808 I prefer having the CD. Like you said, there are other ways to support the band, but CD's are still old school as fuck and make a badass collection and decoration for you room. And its cool having the actual product and getting to read the little booklet inside a CD. Cds are a nostalgic product. And you can get them signed and stuff.
I am divided on downloading from mediafire/torrenting - on one hand, I think it reaches a wider audience, not necessarily for the sake of popularity but the loss of profits could possibly be attained by the means of merchandise, more tours because of the wider fanbase, etc. However I agree I feel more like a true fan when I have a record in my hands.
I do download Enslaved music, but I have a couple of their original CD's too. The thing is that I download music because the constitution of my country allows me the free and unlimited acces to the culture. But I understand - music is a certain good of a certain value. So I'll buy the CD if I like music it's recorded on. How shall I know that the CD is good withough listening to it first? If I go to the restaurant, I first eat and then pay. If they gave me untasty meal, I wouldn't pay for it!
This video was fucking awesome. When you get an album for free, it's just not the same as actually buying it. Spending money gives it some sort of value to you, and you can actually cherish it.
@bagelzkickass You said you can't cherish a cd unless you buy it. You cherish a cd by listening to it. The value of a cd is how good it is, not how much it costs.
@1337bard But you get tired of it after a bit. That doesn't happen nearly as fast if you buy the album. I've downloaded music and There's not one album that I haven't gotten tired of after a month. Most usually last a week or two. However, with the albums I've actually bought, there are still a lot that I haven't gotten tired of after years.
@bagelzkickass That's not the reason why you stop listening to it. You're answering a psychological question with a materialistic answer. If you like having the artwork, the lyrics and pictures that go with a cd, that's fine spend 15 bucks. But all I want is the music, that's free because it's not tangible, just like breathing oxygen is free, or reading is free. If the bands don't like it they can all form a union and go on strike, more business for the bands who aren't. Fuck em.
@bagelzkickass yeah i agree, but i think the shuffle option is at fault for that. when you have your ipod or whatever the fuck on shuffle and mix different tracks from different bands, you kind of lose the artistical value of what one band is trying to create. of course, you do the same with a cd changer, but if you're wanting to do that, you might as well get an ipod and plug it in the aux of your player. still great we have the option of having an ipod around instead of a stack of cds at times
So they "download" a sheep? I assume this means they go to the farm, take a sample of the sheep's DNA and clone it without removing the existing sheep from anyone's property, right?
@Kantankeris The band has certain budget from the label. With it they record the album, promote etc. So, if you donload it from the internet and don't buy the original CD, they just loose money they spend on recording. And such things are killing small labels. MP3 is okay when you want to check the music before you buy it. But downloading the CDs you like and don't buy is simple stealing, even physically nothing's dissapear. Think about it when you will be downloading a file from the net.
@PolishKurwaMetal I get that and it's been a long time since I downloaded anything without paying the artist their fair dues. I just think their disproportionate response and their use of the word download was kinda dumb and doesn't help them make their point. It just makes them look like stupid, hyperbolic criminals. They have a valid argument but they hurt their case by responding like this.
I can disagree with them for reasons other than being a pirate.
@Kantankeris And by the way, you are from the U.S.A. New albums in your country are cheaper than in Europe for about 1/3 of a price. So what problem is in buying music you love? I really don't understand you people...
@Kantankeris nah, its not just about the product, its the customer, if you remove the product, you remove the customer, if you copy the product, you remove the customer.
Dette kan ikke sammenlignes på noen måte og det dere gjør er på grensen til dyremishandling. Skuffende opptreden fra et band jeg før likte og respekterte
@ulfrthor 1. When you buy music, you don't actually own the music, you just purchase a license to listen to it. Enslaved (or the label if they have a shitty contract) owns the music. Therefore, by creating a copy that didn't exist before, you are not purchasing your license to listen, aka stealing it.
@Krav1234567890 Intellectual property rights is a bunch of namby pamby. You can't steal something that isn't tangible. All intellectual property right regulations are lobbied from the RIAA to prevent competition, it's something called fascism, maybe you've heard of it? Ripping the music and copying the original cd's is perfectly legal. It is only illegal to distribute them, since it is being freely exchanged from consumer to consumer, it isn't distribution.
@ulfrthor There's this awesome thing out now, you may of heard of it, called the internet. On the internet, bands set up these things called merchandise stores where not only can you buy T-shirts, but CD's as well! Cool, right?
I'm certainly glad I paid to see them, last month...even though I listen to most music on YT, now, I always make sure to go to live shows of the bands I really like. That way I know they get paid. Also, occasionally, will buy a cd, or, dvd. For instance, I did pay for my own copy of Until the Light Takes Us, etc. It's hard keeping up with it, though. Since, am more or less starving musician, myself, most of my money goes into my own music. These guys deserve money for their genius, though...
@Possessed420 Well...I am a girl, so, was just thinking of throwing myself at their feet, and, leaving it at that...Ha...especially, after looking Grutle, straight in the eyes, as he was walking into the Regency Ballroom, back in Nov...What can a poor girl say? Sigh...he is truly fine! ( Anyway, actually, you'd be surprised how many people want to listen to my demo)...
I don't think the sheep's owner would have minded having his sheep downloaded, if he still got to keep his original sheep after you were done "downloading" it.
Sykt morsom film, men tror dere ikke helt ser forskellen på å stjele og laste ned. Skaff det litt Iq skills da. Men skapee media overskrifter og stjele sauer, det kan dere :D
Sharing is caring - Future does not consist of owning digital bits.
Look at the good artists, they provide the music now for free, if you like them - If they want to earn money, they TOUR and we come see them.. A cd is just a COPY - there is never a original.
At least thing artists could do to sell CD's is to drop out the stupid companies who charging insane lots of money for copies. Artists could at least provide EACH "copy" a autograph or something to keep. (a real one that is.)
@DevildogRevolution Record labels would still make money even if all their artists albums were leaked, and they are already. Not to mention it's the government fault for taxing businesses too high in the first place. They tax the record label as well as the bands individual income. Not to mention taxing individual earnings is down right stealing, so just think of filesharing as a tax.
@1337bard ...it's not that cut and dry. Although I agree that all the taxes are rediculous, as well as all the money that the Record Executives make off of the artists, I have to say that does not excuse illegal downloading! In all aspects, you are still ripping off the artist. File sharing as a tax... No, you are insane if you think of it that way. That way of thinking is absurd and is the main reason why music as an art will die and why musicians will not be able to make fare living.
I agree with the guys from Enslaved... Being in a band is like having a small business and when some one downloads music for free, it is stealing from that business... all the people who disagree are just lying themselves and everyone else to cover up the guilt or the lack of... You are fools if you think downloading music for free won't have a negative outcome in the future! Keep it up and bands won't be making music before very long.. accept in their own basement!!!
I download some but for bands that I feel really deserve my money I will buy all their CD's, because I really like their music and am prepared to spend that money for the privalege of owning their albums physically. I did this for Amon Amarth and Enslaved.
i admit downloading music gets you music and lets you try new music but it cant beat owing it legally and physically, its expensive as hell but for every say 50 songs you download and you like its worth buying an album or 2 for, besides, you cant download good metal, just the top 1 song by the band your looking for
This is stupid and comparing apples to oranges. When you steal a sheep from someone, you are depriving him of an asset that he once had; he is diminished by your action. When you download a song without paying the company, you are not depriving the company of the song. All you are doing is refusing to enrich the company.
Acting to diminish is different from refusing to act to increase. One is morally condemned, while the other is utterly justifiable.
Downloading music isn't stealing, intellectual property/copyright laws were only lobbied because the music industry doesn't want to compete with the market. If artists want to make money they can fucking play more concerts and sell more merchandise. I've never bought an enslaved album because they're not worth over 10 dollars. Downloading music should be legal.
@1337bard@1337bard ...you are an idiot... downloading music for free is as bad as steeling sheep.... if you don't think enslaved has good enough songs to pay for, do not listen to it at all, otherwise pay for it! Bands work hard to make those albums and most have to put up thier own money to record them...
@1337bard@1337bard ...The industry is just a tool needed to put out the finished product and support the artist... oh yeah, also, who do you think puts out the money for most artist's to tour to support the CD's and sell the merch? The record industry, that's who!!! The laws protect artist from asswholes like you that want to exploit the artist's for his/her own benefit.
@1337bard@1337bard ...You also have to think about everyone else involved in the process of making the album, the artwork and photos and then you have the retail... all those people without work because you want to be a cheap ass. It's because of people like you, that we won't have the right as a musician to make a living do something that you get enjoyment from listening to. If this kind of attitude keeps up, we won't have music on a mass scale, it will be back to playing garages & basements
@DevildogRevolution Looking from an artists aspect, whatever I create belongs to society, not me. Just cause I create a melody, doesn't mean I own it and nobody can play it without my permission. The purpose of being an artist is to SHARE your feelings and outlook with society. It's fascist to create laws to protect companies from the free market.
@1337bard Interesting take on the meaning of the word 'free' market. So, now it's fascist to be compensated for your work. What exactly do you do for a living? Do you demand some sort of renumeration for it or just do it for 'free' since it maybe fascist to be rewarded for your efforts?
@shashi13m It's fascist for a government to protect any business from competition. They're being compensated because of their own inefficiency in protecting their CD-R's from being cracked.
@1337bard So, what do you do for a living, are you are an artist of any kind? Are you the author of any intellectual 'property'? Books, music, artwork etc.?
@shashi13m Anything that can be replicated I would have no precedence over it. However I do believe in the ethical standards of accrediting. I just don't believe you can put a price tag on something that is intangible.
I'm proud to say all the albums I love I have bought legally. I love having something physical in my hand- and I love having the artwork most of the time. However cds are really expensive these days, when I was younger I used to get into new music by browsing the second hand section in my favourite little cd shops. Sadly they no longer exist. The only outlets to buy cds in shops are big chainstores that charge crazy prices. That's why I like to listen for free first- then buy it if I like it.
If a band doesn't sell albums, they don't get paid by the record label, the record label drops them/won't put them on tours which *is* how they get paid. The only excuse for not buying an album (even iTunes, eMusic, or Amazon downloading is legal) is if you are a broke 12 year old. Buy your CD's and stop trying to justify your actions. Obviously they support it too, or they wouldn't have bothered to make this video. Countless musicians always tell fans to buy and not pirate. Why?
Personally, I like actually buying a CD. I like having the actual product in my hands, not as impersonal as downloading. Also, with many bands on indie labels or self-releasing records, they can still make a decent income from selling CDs. I like to know I'm supporting them financially, as well as emotionally. Especially in reward for the band bringing me such joy. feel they deserve my money! ^_^
@Tomgar18 i'm with you i always like haveing the music in my hand not stealing it. free is kool but at what cost, if the artist doesn't get paid and you really like the music then eventually they start to disappear due to lack of funds this is their job not just some hobby if you like an artist support them.
@devilred1971 That's a myth. There are bands who have supported themselves without the need for a record label. A bands source of income doesn't just have to come from record sales. Not to mention Enslaved has had a rough history selling music because they've had so many labels that didn't give a shit about them. P.S I'm in a band, our members all have other sources of income because we all have an education, if a band is having economic problems, that their personal fault.
@devilred1971 The myth is that ripping music is going to put the music industry out of business. In the music business there are a lot of ways to where you can make extra cash, teaching music, playing for another band, selling merchandise, playing more shows, or getting a part time job. Being in a band doesn't have to be a full time job, or even a job at all.
Enslaved are a great band, but their views are wrong. If piracy didn't exist I wouldn't even know them and I would never have bought any of their records. Piracy can benefit the music industry as soon as they stop being too dumb to use it.
Funny video, but if it wasn't for limewire or 360share I may not have been able to hear most of their music. Most mainstream music stores don't sell their albums or they charge $25plus for the CD's as an "Import"! I have bought two of their CD's and plan to buy more when I find them despite being able to download for free. Downloads don't always sound the greatest anyway.
This would make more sense if they'd stolen a hair from the sheep and used that to make a sheep clone, leaving the original sheep exactly where it was.
If sheeps could be reused over and over and over like music can (ie, if it was effortless to pluck a hair and clone it whenever you liked) then this would be a fair comparison. like this, it isn't.
My god YouTube comments really drag the ill-infoirmed of the world out.
Downloading music that is not paid for is not ok kids... when you are working and not living off your parents handouts you will understand this. Especially when you have had to work many many hours to create something good and then only get paid a minute fraction of its commercial worth. Very soon there will be no decent underground music available and it will be your fault!
@MrRadness Bands don't make dick from their music, they make it from everything else. And when I download a disc they lose nothing, because I wasn't going to shell out cash for it. I can't afford it. Now that I can pirate, I can hear and appreciate their music, which every musician wants, and they didn't lose a thing.
@TheBigMclargehuge You're right. I heard that most bands make a huge deal of their money from touring and playing live. When you're selling songs on CDs you have to give most of it away to the big-pig white-wigs who run the record companies. Besides, if people give away their music, all the more reason to go and see them live.
@MrRadness Excuse me, but....Bullshit!!! Decent underground music and record sellings have absolutely nothing to do with each other...as an underground band you won´t get big and well known by selling lots of CDs, but by permanent touring and simply playing you ass off....it was so before mp3 and it will be so in the future...it´s remarkable that only the bands who already made it are whining about it and hard working, still hungry underground bands usually don´t give a shit....
idiots that don't understand the difference between stealing and copying. The best analogy possible in this scenario would be if they bred the sheep and took the lamb that was born, not depriving anyone of a sheep.
Frankly, the copyright industry that allows these bands to have a false sense of things SHOULD be abolished if they continue spreading falsehoods like this. Any rights you possess as an artist are at the mercy of society, not the other way around.
dude this anit very metal, metal anit about the money its about getting the music out there who cares if a couple of songs get downloaded 4 free, if u care 2 much about the money ur ganna turn out like dick heads in metallica sueing there fans cause they no pay 4 music, i just dont think its very metal
@MrValhalla666 dude, what the hell are you talking about??? This is their job - prouducing and performing music is them going to work!! would you go to work for free and have nothing to live on??? What the hell do you mean "It's not Metal" , what the hell does that even mean? Are you suggesting that every Metal band should live in poverty and give their music away to people like you, just because you expect it for free? You are surely the worst type of fan any band could ever ask for.
@trislineker im not saying go and download 4 free it is wrong 2 do, but im saying metal isnt about making money, if u want 2 make money go do somthing else, if people like them they will go and buy there merch and cd's money is just a plus, metal is about getting music out there n giving 2 the fans, its never been about the money, as 4 me i buy my music i have never downloaded any music and no i dont expect it for free and i am a good fan i buy there music pay 2 go 2 there concerts an buy merch.
@rosscore they will still make money im saying, people will still buy there stuff if they like them, but a few song dosn't matter, and if beeing in a band was my job yes i would work 4 free
here's how a lot of people do it; they download a few songs to get the feel of an album, if it's good, they buy it. You'd work for free? Umm, OK. How do you intend to eat then? And travel? And buy instruments, and tour, and record?
@rosscore well i would get a proper job like a normal person until u get big, as for tours they could always get sponsered, as for every thing else if they wanted 2 make lots of money from music they should've chosen another more popular style of music or they could just sellout, but im just saying dont worry about some freely downloaded songs, your opinion on this is way differnt then mine so lets just stop argueing about this and just argee that enslaved is a kickass band and we will buy cd's.
@rosscore this i can sign under. downloading music is just like going to a record store and have a taste, and if it's good then people buy it. well, not ALL people obviously but a lot. and this is good in a way, since it will stop the big crap industries putting out single-promoted shit-crap albums. with the internet getting bigger and bigger and downloading legal this would be a weapon against bubble gum crap, since the consumer won't accept to be fooled anymore. quality. muscian myself.
We don't want to steal anything. We want you to be able to share your music with profit. Like Spotify does. if Music sharing is supposed to be illegale we need to control ALL data flow on the internet in Norway.
You're idiots to think about this like black and white. .. But very funny :p
I've spent a LOT more money on t-shirts and tickets than on cd's. Isn't that way more profitable for the bands than buying their cd's? I sometimes buy cd's when I have money though, but usually at a bargain price/used cd whenever possible. I doubt buying one at a store is going to profit the band a lot as a huge % of the cd price doesn't go the artist, right? Perhaps that should change.
Legalizing downloads however is bullshit. Or should I say sheepshit.
Respectican 1 day ago
Enslaved must be in favor of SOPA and PIPA and that's a good think. Protect artistic property.
husqvarnaQC 1 week ago
hahahaha i died at the end of the video Lol xD
DarkXxXJack 2 weeks ago
'Ah, Enslaved, one of metals most respected ar- wait, what, WHAT ARE THEY DOING TO THAT SHEEP???'
WeIsDaTyrantz 2 weeks ago
Good luck with your campaign to stop Venstre from legalizing downloads. They are using the mainstream music industry to take control of the web.
Please do a web search on SOPA by Michael Mozart
Pt 2 is hilarious
raythiwave 1 month ago
it sucks to see how bunch of dolts are trying to justify downloading .long thing short when you download you dont PAY for it its stealing ..the end
mahamrityumjay 3 months ago
@mahamrityumjay Yeah, taking anything that is free is stealing.
1337bard 3 months ago
@1337bard Music isn't free. That's why downloading is stealing. It's as simple as that; not hard to understand in the slightest.
aarongtr180 2 months ago
@aarongtr180 If it's not hard to understand then it shouldn't be hard for you to explain why downloading is stealing. If something is free to download, how is it stealing if I didn't need to pay for it?
1337bard 2 months ago
@1337bard It's stealing intellectual property. For example, if someone comes up with an idea and copyrights it, you can't use it in your company just because it's not a material object. And if you "don't believe you can put a price tag on something that is intangible", what's the point of copyrights in the first place? And music was just recently made digitally available. Stealing records is considered stealing, so you can't say "downloading music isn't stealing" with a logical thought process.
aarongtr180 2 months ago
@aarongtr180 The point of copyrights is so that people aren't going around profiting off of others work. But if there is no monetary exchange, then no one is profiting, so no one is losing except for the recording industry for printing too much. Because they don't want to accept the fact that most people just want the song files and not the pointless CD.
1337bard 2 months ago
@1337bard So only once a form of media can be digitized should people download it for free? That doesn't seem morally consistent. Oh well, to each their own, I suppose.
aarongtr180 2 months ago
@aarongtr180 I don't know why you think that, the person who rips the cd/dvd is usually the person that shares and seeds it. It's all for free, because it's illegal to profit from it. Think of the file-sharing community as a charity giving music to poor people. Besides the music industry has taken a bigger hit from iTunes than napster because nobody needs cd's anymore.
1337bard 2 months ago
@1337bard The transition of music from CD's to the Internet does not suddenly make music worthless, in my opinion. And I wouldn't consider "charity" to be stealing from bands, who are usually not rich at all, to give to people who refuse to buy their music like everyone else.
aarongtr180 2 months ago
@1337bard Oh, so stealing is ok as long as you don't make a profit from it? I'll steal your car and crash it then, shall I? I mean, I'm not making a profit from it, so that must be ok with you!
Saligia667 3 weeks ago
@Saligia667 I got insurance, hope you die from it.
1337bard 3 weeks ago
hahahahahh,
FixxxeR208 3 months ago
haha the sheep starts to eat when hes being kidnapped
vikingablod1016 4 months ago
According to wiki, only 5 sheep were really copied - Dolly, Polly, Molly, Royana, Oyali and Zarife.
23Combat23 4 months ago
@23Combat23 (6 lol)
23Combat23 4 months ago
If you want to download it, you should clone it and take away the clone, not steal the original
Gozzilla91 4 months ago
Can they copy this ship with one click? Stealing domestic animals is not a piracy, it's a theft, my brainwashed hairy friends :)
immortalx50 5 months ago
Well, piracy won't really hurt your buisiness that much ... you see, people who would buy your album will buy it anyway, and most of those who download it wouldn't have bought it anyway. Also, you get free advertising for your songs, you reach more people, and some of them will buy it, and in the and you maybe gain customers from pirating. If you deliver, people who really like you will pay for it.
Xeiki 5 months ago
Look at it from both sides. I've never actually bought a cd, because I simply can't find any cds from the bands that I listen to, and buying music online is rediculously expensive, to the point where music becomes exclusively reserved for the wealthy elite again. It's a brilliant opportunity for monopolies to develop as well. Besides, this discussion is about music as art versus music as business, eventually, I think.
chribban is right too, on a more technical level.
jb1563700 6 months ago
De er to digre, skjeggete og hårete metalmusikere og det eneste jeg tenker når jeg ser den her "laste ned en sau" videoen er hvor søte de er og at jeg vil ha dem på fanget og luske dem i håret og snakke om dagen deres og sånt.
Sadiesexy 6 months ago 2
@Sadiesexy Haha!
Frostliche 5 months ago
@Frostliche Vel, de kan jo begge to veldig enkelt appellere til andre instinkter enn andre morsinstinktet... ;)
Sadiesexy 5 months ago
Stupid....
This is NOT the same as COPYING a music file. I would take your film serious if you COPIED the sheep so the farmer didn´t sell as many sheep as usual.
If you STEAL the sheep it´s the same as if I would steal a song from you and from now on use it myself and say it´s my music and sell it on the net...
chribban 6 months ago
@chribban fuck you. you don't understand Norwegian humour
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chribban 5 months ago
as far as i am concerned the problem of downloading is killing music...unfortunately not the right music...ok thats a bit elitist but there are artists liek these guys, testament, the haunted (I know Peter the vocalist barely made it to their recent show at hellfest due to cash)...ok, if your too poor to afford it, i think its good to be able to get a copy..but its down to the individual to have the respect to pay for it if they can (idealism, yes-true, yes) the system been raped & has effects.
severedfate 7 months ago
If the bands keep on making good cd's and artwork than I keep on buying them :)
towyjr 7 months ago 7
I but CD's sometimes, and I download both illegally and legally. Point is that when I buy a CD most of the money goes directly to the record company. The artist earn more from concerts if more people are able to hear the songs.
essonet 7 months ago 2
@essonet From what I've heard, youre correct, that it's the touring that makes money for the band, while record sales mostly go directly to the record company. If the band is on a small or indepent label, however, then they need you to buy their CDs to support them.
This is sort of off the topic, but I'm also offended when a band releases half an hour of music and expects me to pay full price for the "album."
TheZombiePimpernel 6 months ago
What a stupid analogy.
"Downloading" a sheep would be equivalent to cloning it, not stealing it.
Go on tours if you want to make money! Dumbasses.
Grindermetalhead 8 months ago
@Grindermetalhead I think it's pretty clever...and it proves a point about politics. And downloading can bve stealing, hence they steal it. The idea of this law is a total shambles, downloading music sucks anyway...it'll never compare buying CD's, end of. Regardless of if they go on tours or sell merchandise, its still wrong. And they do go on tour. Dumbass.
DragonForceGirl143 7 months ago
@DragonForceGirl143 It's not clever. It's a logical fallacy. When you steal something, the owner is deprived of its possession. When you copy it, the owner still has the original. The sheep they "downloaded" is gone. If I download a song, they'll still have the original. It's not stealing. It's copying. Intellectual property is bullshit. And "downloading sucks" is just your opinion. I hate CD's. They are a waste of space which only collects dust once I rip the songs to my hard drive.
Grindermetalhead 7 months ago
@Grindermetalhead Its a play of words...they're talking about the fact they are stealing their income, so they steal a sheep...there's no need to take it so serious as you are. And if you want to download, do it legally, so the band still gets come money. Well, thats what REAL fans do anyway...
DragonForceGirl143 7 months ago
@DragonForceGirl143 They ain't stealing shit because intellectual property is bullshit. These clowns believe that by listening to their song without paying for it, I'm somehow committing a theft. If I demanded you pay me a dollar for reading this comment because I claimed that these words belong to me, you'd laugh me out of youtube, yet it's somehow logical that I must pay money for a permission to listen to a song they created. That is just a mind-bogglingly imbecilic concept.
Grindermetalhead 7 months ago
@Grindermetalhead Then you're obviously not a musician, because it's apparrent that you haven't quite wrapped you mind around the fact that an awful lot of us have been training our entire lives and putting countless hours of practice in to creating our art in the hopes that it might actually earn us a livelihood, only to have said hopes dashed by some dumbass like you who can't be bothered to spend an extra $10 that took one of us maybe a year and a half of sweat, blood, and tears to make.
unblackcellofreak777 7 months ago 6
@unblackcellofreak777 Actually I am. I have practiced for years and created multiple pieces of music, so your insinuation doesn't hold water. I have wrapped my mind around it and I came to a conclusion that Intellectual property is an intellectually void concept, based on nothing but a state granted monopoly and upheld by the threat and use of violence. Ideas aren't private property. They are shared, not owned. And if your sole inspiration for creativity is to cash in, you are not an artist.
Grindermetalhead 7 months ago
@Grindermetalhead But that doesn't mean artists have to live poor. Even the guys in Testament have "blue collar" jobs as Alex put it. Who the hell HASN'T heard of Testament? It's stealing if you don't pay for it, just because you can't hold it doesn't change that. If what you say is true about ideas, then I should be able to cover a band's album and sell my version for money without giving them anything, and Burger King should be allowed to sell Big Macs.
Livetoheadbang 7 months ago 2
@Livetoheadbang You go on tours and you play the songs live if you want to make money. You should be able to cover a band's album because by playing it yourself you're making it your own. Burger King and McDonald's are artificial entities that would not even exist if the state did not gave them personhood by law.
Big Mac is just an idea on how to arrange buns, meat, cheese and lettuce. You could make your own if you knew the recipe for the sauce and you wouldn't have to pay anyone royalties.
Grindermetalhead 7 months ago
@Grindermetalhead Oh? Do you have any idea how much it costs to tour? Minus gas prices for driving a bus and towing equipment, if they want to go to a different country they have to pay about a thousand to fly each member, rhoadie, etc, a couple thousand more to fly over equipment, then play shows at clubs for $30 bucks a person, shared with the other bands. So if anyone can think of an idea and it doesn't matter who does it, why are you listening to this when you could make your own song?
Livetoheadbang 7 months ago 2
@Livetoheadbang right on!
severedfate 7 months ago
@Livetoheadbang Just like any other business, touring has its expenses, but at the end of the day no one would do it if it wasn't profitable, so I don't see your point.
And I know it's rare, but sometimes cover songs can sound better than the the original version, and every time a band covers a song they are adding something unique to it, thus making it their own through unique interpretation.
It's like Opera. You can listen to dozens of interpretations of the same aria and each sounds unique.
Grindermetalhead 7 months ago
@Grindermetalhead That's easy, because they're doing what they love :D I'd kill to be able to tour and play music, even if I just had enough to pay for the cost of living. But just like any business, you can't run into their 'store' and take things they put money, time, and effort into producing.
I've seen tons of songs where the cover is better is better than the original, but if it was as you described and it's so unique, then it wouldn't be a cover song at all, it would be an original.
Livetoheadbang 7 months ago
@unblackcellofreak777 right on. truth is here
severedfate 7 months ago
I have downloaded all of Enslaved's albums (I have no need for a plastic disc I'll never use once I've ripped it to a 21st century format).
Although, I have also paid to see them live and bought hoodie's and Tshirts. I still support the band financially, just not in the traditional way.
What do you think of this?
Damian808 8 months ago
@Damian808 I prefer having the CD. Like you said, there are other ways to support the band, but CD's are still old school as fuck and make a badass collection and decoration for you room. And its cool having the actual product and getting to read the little booklet inside a CD. Cds are a nostalgic product. And you can get them signed and stuff.
warlockmetal1 8 months ago
1:40. Oh shit! the Vikings are coming!
OnyxPammegistos 9 months ago
I am divided on downloading from mediafire/torrenting - on one hand, I think it reaches a wider audience, not necessarily for the sake of popularity but the loss of profits could possibly be attained by the means of merchandise, more tours because of the wider fanbase, etc. However I agree I feel more like a true fan when I have a record in my hands.
panzerfavst 9 months ago
I do download Enslaved music, but I have a couple of their original CD's too. The thing is that I download music because the constitution of my country allows me the free and unlimited acces to the culture. But I understand - music is a certain good of a certain value. So I'll buy the CD if I like music it's recorded on. How shall I know that the CD is good withough listening to it first? If I go to the restaurant, I first eat and then pay. If they gave me untasty meal, I wouldn't pay for it!
Sniffer194 9 months ago
Wait, downloading music from the internet is illegal?
aocidicoa 10 months ago
vikings used to still a lot , wtf
GrexornasTid 10 months ago
HAHAHA!.. Sauen te lars - den laste me ner!
kreekimhm 10 months ago
i love grutle ! <3
eleonorabizarre 10 months ago
This video was fucking awesome. When you get an album for free, it's just not the same as actually buying it. Spending money gives it some sort of value to you, and you can actually cherish it.
bagelzkickass 11 months ago
@bagelzkickass You're retarded, you actually care more about the cd than the music, go fuck yourself.
1337bard 11 months ago
@1337bard I don't think that's what I said. Nice reading comprehension skills.
bagelzkickass 11 months ago
@bagelzkickass You said you can't cherish a cd unless you buy it. You cherish a cd by listening to it. The value of a cd is how good it is, not how much it costs.
1337bard 11 months ago
@1337bard But you get tired of it after a bit. That doesn't happen nearly as fast if you buy the album. I've downloaded music and There's not one album that I haven't gotten tired of after a month. Most usually last a week or two. However, with the albums I've actually bought, there are still a lot that I haven't gotten tired of after years.
bagelzkickass 11 months ago
@bagelzkickass That's not the reason why you stop listening to it. You're answering a psychological question with a materialistic answer. If you like having the artwork, the lyrics and pictures that go with a cd, that's fine spend 15 bucks. But all I want is the music, that's free because it's not tangible, just like breathing oxygen is free, or reading is free. If the bands don't like it they can all form a union and go on strike, more business for the bands who aren't. Fuck em.
1337bard 10 months ago
@bagelzkickass yeah i agree, but i think the shuffle option is at fault for that. when you have your ipod or whatever the fuck on shuffle and mix different tracks from different bands, you kind of lose the artistical value of what one band is trying to create. of course, you do the same with a cd changer, but if you're wanting to do that, you might as well get an ipod and plug it in the aux of your player. still great we have the option of having an ipod around instead of a stack of cds at times
ChecklTheGameolMate 10 months ago
So they "download" a sheep? I assume this means they go to the farm, take a sample of the sheep's DNA and clone it without removing the existing sheep from anyone's property, right?
Kantankeris 11 months ago 22
@Kantankeris The band has certain budget from the label. With it they record the album, promote etc. So, if you donload it from the internet and don't buy the original CD, they just loose money they spend on recording. And such things are killing small labels. MP3 is okay when you want to check the music before you buy it. But downloading the CDs you like and don't buy is simple stealing, even physically nothing's dissapear. Think about it when you will be downloading a file from the net.
PolishKurwaMetal 4 months ago
@PolishKurwaMetal I get that and it's been a long time since I downloaded anything without paying the artist their fair dues. I just think their disproportionate response and their use of the word download was kinda dumb and doesn't help them make their point. It just makes them look like stupid, hyperbolic criminals. They have a valid argument but they hurt their case by responding like this.
I can disagree with them for reasons other than being a pirate.
Kantankeris 4 months ago
@Kantankeris And by the way, you are from the U.S.A. New albums in your country are cheaper than in Europe for about 1/3 of a price. So what problem is in buying music you love? I really don't understand you people...
PolishKurwaMetal 4 months ago
@Kantankeris nah, its not just about the product, its the customer, if you remove the product, you remove the customer, if you copy the product, you remove the customer.
turbonorsking 3 months ago
i only download albums to see if its worth it, then if i like it, i go out and buy it.
Shadow78954 1 year ago
Dette kan ikke sammenlignes på noen måte og det dere gjør er på grensen til dyremishandling. Skuffende opptreden fra et band jeg før likte og respekterte
MrSteamboatWillie 1 year ago
@MrSteamboatWillie Plasserte du denne kommentaren på rett video?
passgodtpaadegselv 11 months ago
@passgodtpaadegselv Er du en idiot?
MrSteamboatWillie 11 months ago
@MrSteamboatWillie Hvilken konklusjon å trekke. Jeg tror faktisk jeg vil kalle det psykisk menneskemishandling.
passgodtpaadegselv 11 months ago
@passgodtpaadegselv HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
MrSteamboatWillie 11 months ago
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MrSteamboatWillie 1 year ago
i buy music.. i only download 1-2 songs from my mobile sometimes.. but else i buy cds got about 35 cdes so far :)
C0bfan666 1 year ago
Funny, yet stupid. If you download a song, the original copy still exists on the seeder's location, and Enslaved still own that song.
If you "download" a sheep, like they did, the original copy of that sheep is gone from the owner.
That's true stealing.
Enslaved ought to know, that they would have sold at least 6 copies less if I wouldn't have downloaded there albums many years ago.
We don't have many stores in iceland which sells good music. I like the idea of owning a copy of a cd tho'.
ulfrthor 1 year ago 12
@ulfrthor 1. When you buy music, you don't actually own the music, you just purchase a license to listen to it. Enslaved (or the label if they have a shitty contract) owns the music. Therefore, by creating a copy that didn't exist before, you are not purchasing your license to listen, aka stealing it.
2. 6 copies per person adds up really fast.
3. .metaltravelguide(dot)com/europe/iceland/reykjavik/geisladiskabuo-valda
Importing online isn't very hard either.
Krav1234567890 11 months ago
@Krav1234567890 Intellectual property rights is a bunch of namby pamby. You can't steal something that isn't tangible. All intellectual property right regulations are lobbied from the RIAA to prevent competition, it's something called fascism, maybe you've heard of it? Ripping the music and copying the original cd's is perfectly legal. It is only illegal to distribute them, since it is being freely exchanged from consumer to consumer, it isn't distribution.
1337bard 11 months ago
@ulfrthor There's this awesome thing out now, you may of heard of it, called the internet. On the internet, bands set up these things called merchandise stores where not only can you buy T-shirts, but CD's as well! Cool, right?
StephenTheRed 3 months ago
This is the only moment I've ever felt embarrassed to be a metal fan. Any recognition with these morons is embarrassing.
xrunxnowx 1 year ago
I'm certainly glad I paid to see them, last month...even though I listen to most music on YT, now, I always make sure to go to live shows of the bands I really like. That way I know they get paid. Also, occasionally, will buy a cd, or, dvd. For instance, I did pay for my own copy of Until the Light Takes Us, etc. It's hard keeping up with it, though. Since, am more or less starving musician, myself, most of my money goes into my own music. These guys deserve money for their genius, though...
BlackishMetalish 1 year ago
@BlackishMetalish No one wants to listen your worthless "demo", keep playin "guitar hero" & downloading your nirvana mp3's , bitch ass studio-gangsta
Possessed420 1 year ago
@Possessed420 Well...I am a girl, so, was just thinking of throwing myself at their feet, and, leaving it at that...Ha...especially, after looking Grutle, straight in the eyes, as he was walking into the Regency Ballroom, back in Nov...What can a poor girl say? Sigh...he is truly fine! ( Anyway, actually, you'd be surprised how many people want to listen to my demo)...
BlackishMetalish 1 year ago
this is the greatest thing ever filmed involving a sheep and Black Metal musicians.
TheBts523 1 year ago
talentløst for å være ærlig. er musikken like dårlig, så trenger dere ikke vatne dere ut for at jeg skal laste den ned.
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monikaminole 1 year ago
well. . .I was gonna buy the new record. Probably not now.
KMFCM 1 year ago
I don't think the sheep's owner would have minded having his sheep downloaded, if he still got to keep his original sheep after you were done "downloading" it.
threepunchstuff 1 year ago
Sykt morsom film, men tror dere ikke helt ser forskellen på å stjele og laste ned. Skaff det litt Iq skills da. Men skapee media overskrifter og stjele sauer, det kan dere :D
mortyfeller 1 year ago
Sharing is caring - Future does not consist of owning digital bits.
Look at the good artists, they provide the music now for free, if you like them - If they want to earn money, they TOUR and we come see them.. A cd is just a COPY - there is never a original.
At least thing artists could do to sell CD's is to drop out the stupid companies who charging insane lots of money for copies. Artists could at least provide EACH "copy" a autograph or something to keep. (a real one that is.)
cohnkrad 1 year ago
1:47 rofl
sedofar 1 year ago
i support downloading though sheeps especially Lars sheep
Haloman777 1 year ago
vad är mer true fånga fårXD
alimamma121 1 year ago
@DevildogRevolution Record labels would still make money even if all their artists albums were leaked, and they are already. Not to mention it's the government fault for taxing businesses too high in the first place. They tax the record label as well as the bands individual income. Not to mention taxing individual earnings is down right stealing, so just think of filesharing as a tax.
1337bard 1 year ago
@1337bard ...it's not that cut and dry. Although I agree that all the taxes are rediculous, as well as all the money that the Record Executives make off of the artists, I have to say that does not excuse illegal downloading! In all aspects, you are still ripping off the artist. File sharing as a tax... No, you are insane if you think of it that way. That way of thinking is absurd and is the main reason why music as an art will die and why musicians will not be able to make fare living.
DevildogRevolution 1 year ago
@DevildogRevolution Then accept living in a fascist country.
1337bard 1 year ago
I agree with the guys from Enslaved... Being in a band is like having a small business and when some one downloads music for free, it is stealing from that business... all the people who disagree are just lying themselves and everyone else to cover up the guilt or the lack of... You are fools if you think downloading music for free won't have a negative outcome in the future! Keep it up and bands won't be making music before very long.. accept in their own basement!!!
DevildogRevolution 1 year ago
I download some but for bands that I feel really deserve my money I will buy all their CD's, because I really like their music and am prepared to spend that money for the privalege of owning their albums physically. I did this for Amon Amarth and Enslaved.
Vyyking 1 year ago 2
Them running off that hill could easily have been a 90's black metal video.
Nocturnal grim and frostbitten sheepgrinders.
Morto15 1 year ago 4
i admit downloading music gets you music and lets you try new music but it cant beat owing it legally and physically, its expensive as hell but for every say 50 songs you download and you like its worth buying an album or 2 for, besides, you cant download good metal, just the top 1 song by the band your looking for
fatmanpez 1 year ago
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rough644 1 year ago
This is stupid and comparing apples to oranges. When you steal a sheep from someone, you are depriving him of an asset that he once had; he is diminished by your action. When you download a song without paying the company, you are not depriving the company of the song. All you are doing is refusing to enrich the company.
Acting to diminish is different from refusing to act to increase. One is morally condemned, while the other is utterly justifiable.
EternityThought 1 year ago 2
Who let Macaulay Culkin behind the wheel?
joemj413 1 year ago
Downloading music isn't stealing, intellectual property/copyright laws were only lobbied because the music industry doesn't want to compete with the market. If artists want to make money they can fucking play more concerts and sell more merchandise. I've never bought an enslaved album because they're not worth over 10 dollars. Downloading music should be legal.
1337bard 1 year ago
@1337bard @1337bard ...you are an idiot... downloading music for free is as bad as steeling sheep.... if you don't think enslaved has good enough songs to pay for, do not listen to it at all, otherwise pay for it! Bands work hard to make those albums and most have to put up thier own money to record them...
DevildogRevolution 1 year ago
@1337bard @1337bard ...The industry is just a tool needed to put out the finished product and support the artist... oh yeah, also, who do you think puts out the money for most artist's to tour to support the CD's and sell the merch? The record industry, that's who!!! The laws protect artist from asswholes like you that want to exploit the artist's for his/her own benefit.
DevildogRevolution 1 year ago
@1337bard @1337bard ...You also have to think about everyone else involved in the process of making the album, the artwork and photos and then you have the retail... all those people without work because you want to be a cheap ass. It's because of people like you, that we won't have the right as a musician to make a living do something that you get enjoyment from listening to. If this kind of attitude keeps up, we won't have music on a mass scale, it will be back to playing garages & basements
DevildogRevolution 1 year ago
@DevildogRevolution Looking from an artists aspect, whatever I create belongs to society, not me. Just cause I create a melody, doesn't mean I own it and nobody can play it without my permission. The purpose of being an artist is to SHARE your feelings and outlook with society. It's fascist to create laws to protect companies from the free market.
1337bard 1 year ago
@1337bard Interesting take on the meaning of the word 'free' market. So, now it's fascist to be compensated for your work. What exactly do you do for a living? Do you demand some sort of renumeration for it or just do it for 'free' since it maybe fascist to be rewarded for your efforts?
shashi13m 1 year ago
@shashi13m It's fascist for a government to protect any business from competition. They're being compensated because of their own inefficiency in protecting their CD-R's from being cracked.
1337bard 1 year ago
@1337bard So, what do you do for a living, are you are an artist of any kind? Are you the author of any intellectual 'property'? Books, music, artwork etc.?
shashi13m 3 months ago
@shashi13m Anything that can be replicated I would have no precedence over it. However I do believe in the ethical standards of accrediting. I just don't believe you can put a price tag on something that is intangible.
1337bard 2 months ago
I'm proud to say all the albums I love I have bought legally. I love having something physical in my hand- and I love having the artwork most of the time. However cds are really expensive these days, when I was younger I used to get into new music by browsing the second hand section in my favourite little cd shops. Sadly they no longer exist. The only outlets to buy cds in shops are big chainstores that charge crazy prices. That's why I like to listen for free first- then buy it if I like it.
xxdarkfaeriexx 1 year ago 13
1:40 I'm not the only one reminded of Call Of The Wintermoon, am I? XD
ska2808 1 year ago 49
@ska2808
Lol!!!
princessastrild 1 year ago
you're not a true fan of Metal if you don't support the musicians, and one of those ways is to buy a physical copy
not sayin downloading is completely bad, no, but if it's all you do FUCK OFF
RZris 1 year ago 3
This is completely off topic but I wish Grutle would download me!
princessastrild 1 year ago
why is no one there and steel their car!!!!!
Deathmetaloli 1 year ago
Lmao!
This is so wrong!
It looks like he tryed, to get the Sheep up the ass!
Hahaha i know now, why they love Sheeps so much haha!
Poor Sheep hahaha!
LuciferWitch666 1 year ago
If a band doesn't sell albums, they don't get paid by the record label, the record label drops them/won't put them on tours which *is* how they get paid. The only excuse for not buying an album (even iTunes, eMusic, or Amazon downloading is legal) is if you are a broke 12 year old. Buy your CD's and stop trying to justify your actions. Obviously they support it too, or they wouldn't have bothered to make this video. Countless musicians always tell fans to buy and not pirate. Why?
IT SCREWS THEM
spottytroll 1 year ago
Clever, but I do disagree with their politics.
But they are right that a band is a small business.
Dionysius8421 1 year ago
Can't help but feeling though that Enslaved are right-wingers from watching this, say it ain't so! =P
Tomgar18 1 year ago
Personally, I like actually buying a CD. I like having the actual product in my hands, not as impersonal as downloading. Also, with many bands on indie labels or self-releasing records, they can still make a decent income from selling CDs. I like to know I'm supporting them financially, as well as emotionally. Especially in reward for the band bringing me such joy. feel they deserve my money! ^_^
Tomgar18 1 year ago 51
@Tomgar18 Everyone like that, but if u can buy many CD's 25€, everybody can't do that.
SkollDrum 1 year ago
Amen.
ometdd 1 year ago
@Tomgar18 i'm with you i always like haveing the music in my hand not stealing it. free is kool but at what cost, if the artist doesn't get paid and you really like the music then eventually they start to disappear due to lack of funds this is their job not just some hobby if you like an artist support them.
devilred1971 11 months ago
@devilred1971 That's a myth. There are bands who have supported themselves without the need for a record label. A bands source of income doesn't just have to come from record sales. Not to mention Enslaved has had a rough history selling music because they've had so many labels that didn't give a shit about them. P.S I'm in a band, our members all have other sources of income because we all have an education, if a band is having economic problems, that their personal fault.
1337bard 11 months ago
@1337bard What's a myth if bands don't make any money how can they keep going on.
devilred1971 11 months ago
@devilred1971 The myth is that ripping music is going to put the music industry out of business. In the music business there are a lot of ways to where you can make extra cash, teaching music, playing for another band, selling merchandise, playing more shows, or getting a part time job. Being in a band doesn't have to be a full time job, or even a job at all.
1337bard 11 months ago
Enslaved are a great band, but their views are wrong. If piracy didn't exist I wouldn't even know them and I would never have bought any of their records. Piracy can benefit the music industry as soon as they stop being too dumb to use it.
TheAstronomican 1 year ago 3
to be fair, when you download music, it creates a copy, which is a different kind of transaction than traditional theft.
orbsonb 1 year ago
Fuck Norway is beautiful. I couldn't stop trying to crane my neck to get a better view out of the car windows XD
Metallicazack 1 year ago
Funny video, but if it wasn't for limewire or 360share I may not have been able to hear most of their music. Most mainstream music stores don't sell their albums or they charge $25plus for the CD's as an "Import"! I have bought two of their CD's and plan to buy more when I find them despite being able to download for free. Downloads don't always sound the greatest anyway.
metal1377 1 year ago
Except you STOLE the sheep. You didn't copy it. Copying the sheep would have been fine.
eyeball226 1 year ago
This would make more sense if they'd stolen a hair from the sheep and used that to make a sheep clone, leaving the original sheep exactly where it was.
spazdor 1 year ago 3
@spazdor difference is that music isn't a consumable item, it can be used over and over again
tunkard 1 year ago
@tunkard that's what I'm saying.
If sheeps could be reused over and over and over like music can (ie, if it was effortless to pluck a hair and clone it whenever you liked) then this would be a fair comparison. like this, it isn't.
spazdor 1 year ago
FYI, it's well established that people who download are the people who buy the most media.
myothernameistaken 1 year ago
I'm going to download all of Enslaved's work just because of their stupidity here.
If they cloned the sheep and took that, they'd have a point. Copyright infringement =/= theft.
myothernameistaken 1 year ago
I wanna download a sheep!!!
viskarenvisla 1 year ago
My god YouTube comments really drag the ill-infoirmed of the world out.
Downloading music that is not paid for is not ok kids... when you are working and not living off your parents handouts you will understand this. Especially when you have had to work many many hours to create something good and then only get paid a minute fraction of its commercial worth. Very soon there will be no decent underground music available and it will be your fault!
MrRadness 1 year ago
@MrRadness Bands don't make dick from their music, they make it from everything else. And when I download a disc they lose nothing, because I wasn't going to shell out cash for it. I can't afford it. Now that I can pirate, I can hear and appreciate their music, which every musician wants, and they didn't lose a thing.
TheBigMclargehuge 1 year ago 3
@TheBigMclargehuge You're right. I heard that most bands make a huge deal of their money from touring and playing live. When you're selling songs on CDs you have to give most of it away to the big-pig white-wigs who run the record companies. Besides, if people give away their music, all the more reason to go and see them live.
viskarenvisla 1 year ago
@MrRadness Excuse me, but....Bullshit!!! Decent underground music and record sellings have absolutely nothing to do with each other...as an underground band you won´t get big and well known by selling lots of CDs, but by permanent touring and simply playing you ass off....it was so before mp3 and it will be so in the future...it´s remarkable that only the bands who already made it are whining about it and hard working, still hungry underground bands usually don´t give a shit....
ohrblut666 1 year ago
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TheBigMclargehuge 1 year ago
Oh, Enslaved, I'm dissapointed in you. Tools.
toojuub 1 year ago 2
idiots that don't understand the difference between stealing and copying. The best analogy possible in this scenario would be if they bred the sheep and took the lamb that was born, not depriving anyone of a sheep.
Frankly, the copyright industry that allows these bands to have a false sense of things SHOULD be abolished if they continue spreading falsehoods like this. Any rights you possess as an artist are at the mercy of society, not the other way around.
ReedSolomon 1 year ago 2
We should only have to pay for your music if it's good.
fazedsatchel 1 year ago
fuckin sheep
omeleq 1 year ago
dude this anit very metal, metal anit about the money its about getting the music out there who cares if a couple of songs get downloaded 4 free, if u care 2 much about the money ur ganna turn out like dick heads in metallica sueing there fans cause they no pay 4 music, i just dont think its very metal
MrValhalla666 1 year ago
@MrValhalla666 dude, what the hell are you talking about??? This is their job - prouducing and performing music is them going to work!! would you go to work for free and have nothing to live on??? What the hell do you mean "It's not Metal" , what the hell does that even mean? Are you suggesting that every Metal band should live in poverty and give their music away to people like you, just because you expect it for free? You are surely the worst type of fan any band could ever ask for.
trislineker 1 year ago
@trislineker im not saying go and download 4 free it is wrong 2 do, but im saying metal isnt about making money, if u want 2 make money go do somthing else, if people like them they will go and buy there merch and cd's money is just a plus, metal is about getting music out there n giving 2 the fans, its never been about the money, as 4 me i buy my music i have never downloaded any music and no i dont expect it for free and i am a good fan i buy there music pay 2 go 2 there concerts an buy merch.
MrValhalla666 1 year ago
@MrValhalla666
Metal isn't about making money, but at the same time, it's their job. Would you work for free?
rosscore 1 year ago
@rosscore they will still make money im saying, people will still buy there stuff if they like them, but a few song dosn't matter, and if beeing in a band was my job yes i would work 4 free
MrValhalla666 1 year ago
@MrValhalla666
here's how a lot of people do it; they download a few songs to get the feel of an album, if it's good, they buy it. You'd work for free? Umm, OK. How do you intend to eat then? And travel? And buy instruments, and tour, and record?
rosscore 1 year ago
@rosscore well i would get a proper job like a normal person until u get big, as for tours they could always get sponsered, as for every thing else if they wanted 2 make lots of money from music they should've chosen another more popular style of music or they could just sellout, but im just saying dont worry about some freely downloaded songs, your opinion on this is way differnt then mine so lets just stop argueing about this and just argee that enslaved is a kickass band and we will buy cd's.
MrValhalla666 1 year ago
@rosscore this i can sign under. downloading music is just like going to a record store and have a taste, and if it's good then people buy it. well, not ALL people obviously but a lot. and this is good in a way, since it will stop the big crap industries putting out single-promoted shit-crap albums. with the internet getting bigger and bigger and downloading legal this would be a weapon against bubble gum crap, since the consumer won't accept to be fooled anymore. quality. muscian myself.
Anoraqnophobia 1 year ago
@trislineker now my thoughts on things may be differnt 2 yours but i just think a couple of songs is doing no harm 2 the band
MrValhalla666 1 year ago
haha great musicans and great guys love enslaved
Zewe90 1 year ago
haha i love these guys
BeHeMoThIzBeSt1 1 year ago
I have an idea.
Let's make it legal to download music for free.
But let's pay musicians from tax money for each download.
Ilamarea 1 year ago
@Ilamarea Yeah, but although some of your tax dollars will go to awesome bands like Enslaved, the rest will go to people like Madonna and Nickelback.
subdivisions416 1 year ago
@subdivisions416
Yeah... Still people pay taxes, and people listen to them...
You can't help it.
Ilamarea 1 year ago
FAan vad bra!
IhasMetal 1 year ago
Genialt.
Sadiesexy 1 year ago
Flotte karer!!
TheDollSteak 1 year ago
hehe the way theyre running through the hill sides is like the Call of the Wintermoon video
BlackAureole 1 year ago
i love these men.
TheHuggles09 1 year ago
We don't want to steal anything. We want you to be able to share your music with profit. Like Spotify does. if Music sharing is supposed to be illegale we need to control ALL data flow on the internet in Norway.
You're idiots to think about this like black and white. .. But very funny :p
efreet88 1 year ago