Raptor Rollback 2006

[stratafm]

A roll back is something Top Thrill and Maverick do, although other coasters can have this happen too. This video is a valley or a stall... and it probably rolled back to that spot. When the train stops on the lift hill it's called a set-up (all trains 'set up' in safety break blocks). Worked on Mean Streak back on '01. Several times we had set-ups, near stalls which would have resulted in a roll back. Trim brakes on the banked hill after the first drop really slowed it down that year. Fart.

[IronwolfSFGAm1]

I built this ride in RCT3 and after a while it stalled in that exact spot lol

[theNCcorp]

u dumbass thats not a rollback...

[itsme123669]

@theNCcorp Yes it is. What do you think a rollback is?

[sixflagsfan1113]

@itsme123669 its not a rollback its a stall. a rollback is when a launched roller coaster doesnt make it up the first hill after the launch.

[isaiah1315]

@sixflagsfan1113 no it did rollback after it got stuck upside down!

[ilovemycatzhugo]

ooooooooooo crap

[DorneyPark5]

even possible! i have no idea

[kac65]

Thought of the Maintance Guy "ah Crap"

[seanofthedeaddd]

@ahaha7980 yeah, whenever a ride stalls on the track they have to do it. the entire ride isnt controlled by motors, its just plain gravity. some rides have launches but they can saddle too. the trains dont have bakes either, they are called brake "blocks" and they are the only place a ride can be stopped unless the ride happens to saddle. its ridiculously rare.

[REAPERGUNZ]

its not... rolling back

[xXTheGangstaXx000]

get some



[thedimeckks]

well now what the fuc do they do

[ahaha7980]

@thedimeckks the proly use a machine that pushes it up and over, that or they take the train off which i dubt they woulld do

[dodgeballer2290]

@ahaha7980 They can either bring in a crane and with a series on pulleys can pull it through the rest of the track, much like they do during the initial testing on most coasters, or take it apart. It's much easier to take it apart.

[ahaha7980]

@seanofthedeaddd do they have to do this to the chiller? when it was still there



[SuperFlashDriver]

I meant the HD POV of Raptor, You'll see what I mean.

[SuperFlashDriver]

Hey guys, if you watched the HQ POV of Raptor, it's by the block brake station with the turns right and then left and then straight through the station.

[CAZZERNERY]

where was it when it rolled back?

[InconCvAble]

it wasnt a rollback. it was some idiot who had his phone out during hte ride.

[ThePhantomity]

@InconCvAble This has nothing to do with someone having their phone out during the ride.

[bensimms72]

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[agentJake770]

@romanruler5 It's not possible to stop the ride anywhere, yes, but the train did not make the climb to the block brakes and rolled back

[mohead138]

@romanruler5 You are right this isn't a rollback, this is a Valley. But you are dead wrong about winter storage.

[rfgstl]

@romanruler5 > They don't store the trains on the track for winter. The exposure would cause too much damage to them.

[ZzAWESOMEzZ]

HOW?

[rollercoasterking1]

roller coaster FAIL lolz

[CharlesStudios]

What if the wind was a factor to that stopping?

[Creapiano]

HOW THE HELL did they get the coaster back up????

[CharlesStudios]

Is anyone sure this isn't a rollback?

[gande213]

Yeah, it's not called a rollback for this type of coaster. When rides like this stop midcycle like this, it's called a valley. I'm a rides supervisor for a Six Flags park, and I have had a valley or two at Mr. Freeze.

[XxLiLGiJoE17xX]

@gande213 how does it start moving again??

[haku25432]

what is stupid about some roller coasters, especially ones not designed specifically by the manufacturer, these coasters do not have enough speed to make it over the elemts in some cases but usually if it is designed THE RIGHT WAY it will always have extra speed on each element which compensates for weight changes and weather conditions

[darkm00nitalian1]

@haku25432 Weight makes a coaster go faster from the momentum<---Spell fail

[mjlover5009]

this is the stupidest vid ever!!! it might of been and emergency stop

[lorenzol1996]

how could it just stop there? even with block brakes, it couldn't just launch itself, and if it could, raptor doesn't have launches

[ChrisEvanProduction]

it can't stop there, there are no block brakes in that segment of the track

[peter69696969]

crap video any1???

[KatishMcCullen]

ya know that is probly b4 the park opned and you wer at a hotel in da park and got in early

[TheSarina96]

If a roller coaster gets stuck in the middle of a ride, suspended in the air, or no where near the station, how do the workers get the ride going again?

[Bdawg71692]

i was just wondering that Sarina

[temasongu]

From what I read in this case, they used a crane to gradually lift the train to the ride's half-way station just ahead of where the train was stuck.

[DARKlordBrendon]

how is it that it'll stop with no weight? they are designed that after you pass the chain lift, UR GONNA FINNISH THAT RIDE!

[NorthwestCoasters17]

thye use a pulley cable to get the ride to the station.

long process

[rollercoastersrock]

the train has to be dismantled and run without that train for however long it takes to reassemble the train. you would need a crane to move parts around the ride area so it would take a while.

[TheSarina96]

Oh, thats the best reply I've heard so far!! :P Thnks fur clearing that up!

[pladsailboat331]

great ride but stupid video, it's basically a bunch of bars, great vid pause NOTT

[rollercoasterfan97]

now how the hell did that happen?

is this after the cobra roll going into the mid course brakes?

[asaisaac]

rollercoasterfan97: Rides can valley for many reasons.

[rollercoasterfan97]

hmmm............such as?

[asaisaac]

1) The ride has been inactive and is just warming up.

2) Low weight in the train

3) Cold day, Cold track

4) Wheel assembly issues

5) High Winds...

and alot more....

[rollercoasterfan97]

cool. thanks!

isnt there some sort of goo along the track lining or wheels to help it keep momentum? i thought i had heard something on a documentary about that

[asaisaac]

Yes. it is an oil coating i belive.

[CPRCfanatic]

The reason this happened was it was cold and windy. The ride operator is supposed to send as full of a train as he can out of the station. As you can tell from this vid, there is almost no-one on the ride, causing it to lack momentum to get through the course

[kennywoodracer]

@asaisaac

If I remember correctly, It was a combination of all but 1,2,3, and 5

[Evilmonkey692]

@asaisaac lack of hydrolics 

[rfgstl]

@Evilmonkey692 > The trains are powered my gravity only...no engines, no hydraulics.

[Superkyllingibsen]

it's when no ppl is on - then there is'nt enough weight on it...

[codythered95]

How did that happen?

WTF?

[asaisaac]

codythered95: The ride did not have enough power to make it threw the course and came to a stop.

[Tybooooo]

w a s t e

[strongmad86]

this ride is so fun but i swear at the end when you hit the breaks a raptor punches you in the temple and screams fuck you. its hard on the head but only there

[lilvinnyd101693]

there is no rollb@ck

[BGRooDoG]

Some info on the incident... This was a chilly, windy October day when this happened. In fact, it was the last operating day of the season. On a day like this operators are not allowed to send empty trains. This was just a operator error and it occurred during morning testing before the ride was even open. If this was a full train it would have not have vallied due to the extra weight in the trains.

[xLTxDuck]

i lost my fuckin pone on this ride god dammit

[laughingperson5]

didnt you ask the cedar fair member?

if you did and they didnt do anything.........Fuck them

[matters9319]

no, it's your own problem if you lose something on the ride. You should never ask the ride operators to go out of their way and get it. Thats holding up hunderes, or even thousands of people who are waiting in line. It isn't fair, don't be a selfish d-bag

[CoasterFanatic28]

i agree, i'm a ride operator at kings island near cincinnati and when people ask if they can get their cell phones that they dropped on the ride in the middle of the day when the ride is in full operation, it is THE single most annoying thing in the world. i'd rather have to clean up a protein spill then deal with an angry guest about a stupid cell phone. SECURE YOUR LOOSE ARTICLES

[h3exd]

i feel for you man.

[JunkyardKid]

SO. DON'T. BRING. YOUR. PHONE. ON. A . ROLLER. COASTER.

ever think of that?

[UncleGyro]

WELL. SOMEONE. WOULD. STEEL. IT.

ever think of that hey? ;)

[davidadventurequest]

@unclegyro that is why u take that chance instead of being selfish and holding up thousands of people because if everyone was like him u would never get on a ride be like everyone else

[UncleGyro]

Wtf how am i selfish ,holding people up im just trying to make a point its u whos selfish :)

[alex95187]

less likly to get it stolen in the cubbies then to loose it on the ride... ever think of that????????

[valkrider93]

hey ZIPPER POCKETS

ever think of that!!!!

[DeanoProductionsTM]

Well then get a m8 or parent to look after it. lol

[JunkyardKid]

@UncleGyro they would turn it into steel somehow?

[UncleGyro]

@JunkyardKid HAHAA, this was like 2 years ago xD mann i was a little cunt back then haha, naaah just dont bring it on a coaster ;) <3

[Nerdydolfin]

@JunkyardKid how exactly is that relevant? It's not like its possible to stop a ride in the middle of a course lol

[dodgeballer2290]

@JunkyardKid WHat does that have to do with anything?

[Hamster1919]

they dont disassemble the train or push it... usually on steel coasters they have some type of crane or something to lift the train to a block or a point where it can successfully make it back to the station

[thatsmyjammbox]

damn you guys know your rollercoaster vocab

[sillynugget101]

THAT WOULD BE SO MUCH FUN!!!

[RideTTD2003]

i hate to be technical, but thats actually not a rollback. its called a "valley" when the train on a coaster doesn't make it from one block to the other (in a place where the car shouldn't ever stop). a rollback is where the train doesn't make it from one block to another, in a section of track that the car can stop - with brakes.

[OTHandFBluver13]

atleast they were close to the ground so it was easier to get this riders out

[iluvHN42]

id be scared of that happend 2 me.how would they get it un-stuck?

[Mamba205]

iluvHN42: How to they get it unstuck, which isn't what it's really called, is they just disassemble the train and put it back together where it belongs.

[flightxpilot9]

No, tall they did was pulled it up the hill to the MCBR (Mid Course Brake Run) and let it go. Why spend all that time?

[Mamba205]

Yeah you're right. I wasn't really paying attention to where the train was on the course. I thought it was after the MCBR. Now I found out it was right after the cobra roll.

[ozzy33334]

I have an idea that could help, but I'm not sure how practical it is: Have a "chain thing" all the way through the whole track, but have it about 10 inches above the train, so if this happens, they can lower the chain and pull it the rest of the way through...becasue as flyingdragonrider stated, they had to cut the track...that seems like a pain...but agian not sure how practical

[munamaniac]

This almost never happens and it would cost money.

[Inaccount]

what about putting helping wheels on the tallest places on a rollercoaster?

[SoberPenguin]

can you imagine putting a chain through an inversion like a corkscrew? or a cobra roll? its impractical lol

[strongmad86]

what would be more practical would be electromagnetism, if they got stuck just turn the magnets on and it will pull it up, they'd probably have to be syc. but hey. even more practical, monitor wind conditions and do your math right when you design the thing

[flyingdragonrider]

one of the staff members told me they had to cut the track in order to get the train off of it. i dont know why they didnt just push it back up with a crane! yeah it was winds, raptors trains are like flat panels moving through the wind face first, with the most air resistance. raptor rules ^_^

[coasterdude1216]

Wind is indeed the factor. When the ride traverses through the helix and up to the mid course brake run, the brake part of the track and a little piece before are facing right at the lake, which is where the winds blow eastward from, pushing Raptors flat, non-aerodynamic to a reverse causing a valley. It was closed when I went there because of winds. This same factor can happen on TTD too, but that rolls back by itself anyway.

[Theguyof93]

LOL

[jeydap]

wat happened?

[snowsalot]

Learn how to read other posts like my previous one.

[jeydap]

ummmm ok i did read them and that told me nothing...plz dont get smart with me 4 asking a simple question

[snowsalot]

OK to please you and to add on previous post here is a updated version. This coaster valleyed which means it did not make through the course due to high winds that day and a wind gust that happened. Also the title of this should of been (Raptor Valleyed 2006) instead of rollback. Like I said before Top Thrill Dragster will Roll Back and the previous people that have posted have tried to compare what happens to them as the same and it is not the same. I hope I wasn't too smart for anyone.

[jeydap]

ya i kinda get wat ur saying.....but i didnt even c the raptor rollback...i kno wat i rollbak is cuz the dragster did it... but ya thanx 4 the info =)

[snowsalot]

The ride was closed down due to weather conditions which in this case was wind and they still deploted this coaster and wind was a factor. In the short of it this is not a roll back it is a valley. Which comparing to TTD is totally wrong.

[taternater12]

lol my teacher got stuck on this

[eric2k6k]

look how windy it was thats probably why, there was too much force pushing on the cars

[daniggakid23]

did it just stop?

[evalyn0future0star]

Top thrill always rolls back, but I've never seen the raptor roll back. The raptor & Mellenium are my faves! =]

[sealove127]

man cedar point is the ming of rollbacks. lets see top thrill dragster gets rollback all the time.

[coasterrider34]

were there people on it? dude answer the effin comments.

[jamiestrickler]

WTF happened

[RollerCoasterMaster2]

Yeah Maby Winds Caused It Who Know The Only Way You Would Know If You Talked To The Manager And Even If You Get To Talk To Them They probobly Wont Tell You Unless Your On The Ride!

[dortizlol]

what made the ride do that i wanna know

[yewlogy]

i go there like 15 times a year and luckily first year dragster opened i got a rollback but i didnt see anything like this i mean ive seen the millenium force stall for hours in 05 i think they were stuck almost at top but still on hill and it was like 90 degrees

[silvercrew1]

You mean u saw top thrill dragster stall at the top right? cus Iv'e seen that video

[nintendoGngsta]

wow i go there like 8 times a season and never seen that happen. cedar point is awesome!!!  (i've never gotten a rollback though on top thrill dragster:(

[29gazzilion]

that would be called a "valley"

[coaster1000]

Yeah; you'r right...

[meme5053]

i remember an interview and it said b&ms never roll back it was with john wardley and it was about nemmesis

[kevkev44]

There is always a small chance that any coaster could valley, lots of factors have to be put into consideration.

[rollercoaster24]

first TTD, then Kingda Ka, then Stealth, then Kanonen, Then a flying fish coaster, then a clown coster, now this! wow, the first roll back on a suspended.

[dave46563]

actually dude..coasters like kingda ka are built with rollbacks in mind..that's why it's no big deal when they do rollback..when ka has a rollback the train comes back and they just launch it again..

[taternater12]

yeah they do the same with the top thrill dragster

[TeamThriller]

Thats probably was on the first inversion on a windy day. Sometimes it rolls back.

[daniman93]

Raptor Rolls Back?? it is at no sector of the track so slow that it could roll back

[emilyq511]

did it even move?

[penisyo]

the was the most gayest thing ever

[coasterXqueen]

B&M coasters rock! i'd luv to be on there. oh, and thats not a rollback. only call it a rollback if we see it rolling back.

[thrilljunkie08]

wow...i bet they had a fun time trying to get the train back to the station!

[Beethoven1111]

They actually just towed it up into the Mid Course brakes with a crane, it managed to finish the course from there.

[jazzyphizzle105]

thats not a rollback

[coasterman1234]

This is the only time I've ever heard of a B&M valleying.

[Beethoven1111]

Batman the ride at Great Adventure has, and I believe Hulk has as well. Other than that, I cant think of anything else! Its very rare, true

[flboy1982]

Montu rolls back sometimes right before the MCBR

[Scream162]

Riddler's Revenge has vallied too.

[geauxtigers531]

How does the raptop get stuck like that? I've been on it many times, and I don't know what would cause that to happen.

[Raptorrollback06]

Well I worked on raptor that day. High Winds was the cause of it. It didnt make it up to the block Brakes so it rolled back.

[patmap123]

I got stuck in that little station thingy

[comps]

that would suck to be on it. How do they get u out?

[VFB1210]

They get maintenence personell to manually unlock the restraints. As for getting the train back to the station, they have to take it off with a crane.

[andyroo1326]

valley and rollback are 2 seperate things! valley is when it halts as leighton0 said between 2 hills... like in a valleys dip... and roll back is where it actualy rolls back and is stoped by brackes... as in launches

[xrockxerx]

it's not considered a rollback unless the train actually you know, rolls back

[Gaston1324]

Ok ok! it's all good valley rollback blah! That seems like a weird place for it to "rollback/valley" however

[HENTY00]

That's not a rollback it stalled idiots..

[Beethoven1111]

It was indeed pulled back up to the Mid course break run with a crane. Fact. It completed the course from there on. Sometimes if the rides in an accesible location, they will use a crane to tow it up to higher point on the ride. Sometimes they reomve the train car by car.

[Gunsnaroses82]

The valley was caused by cold weather, and strong winds.

[leighton0]

^no its not, A valley is where the train comes to a halt between two hills, where the only safe way to get the train back to the station is by removing it from the track.

[cpdude2]

not necessarily, the train was pulled back to the station with a crane, as if they were doing a pull through test. they actually are the same thing. a rollback is a valleying, but the term "rollback" is usually only used on launched rides...

[leighton0]

Note the word 'safe'. Pull through tests are done with 1 or 2 bogies, so it doesn't really weigh that much. Pulling an entire train through with a crane isn't the best solution, due to how difficult it would be to pull the train through the inversions, constantly reattatching the cables, to stop it rolling forwards. Plus it would take a long time.

[KapnKrunk]

i agree with dejavu...no1z evn on the ride

[steelvenom2003]

Wow, maybe that's because it ROLLED BACK.

A rollback and a valley are the same thing.

[dejavu1316]

Lol first it isnt a Rollback and second get sound k ok.

[Bowserjoe]

LOL! Too funny.