There are a few great pianists these include: Bachaus, Richter, Rachmaninoff, Gilels, Cortot, Horowitz, Yudina, Rubinstein, Lipatti, Paderwsky, Moseiwitch, Schnabel, Kempff, Anda, Gulda, Cziffra, Gieseking, Fischer, Friedman, Ginzburg, Gould, Hess, Haskil, Hoffman, Kapell, Ogdon, Serkin, Sofronitsky, Solomon, Arrau, Katchen, Francois, Godowsky, Michelangeli, Cliburn, Buosoni, Liszt and a few more that do not come to mind.
For those who love Gilels, there is another version of this Chopin Ballade on YT, a live performance recorded much later, that is surreal and has extraordinary artistry and immense beauty (on the channel of Ewahartwig) :-))
Geezzzz......everyone's a big shot critic. Oh Well....those who cant do....are critics. BTW in my humble opinion, NO ONE has ever played this piece like Chopin intended it to be played its just that difficult to capture the spirit of this composition.....Horowitz has a spectaculraly showy version...interesting---- but not Mse. Chopin's at all. Michelangeli does a nice job...and, of course, theres me :)
No one of our era compares to Gilles' performance as being exactly what was Chopins' intention interpretively or technically on this instrument(with the exception of Kissin live-which is totally transcending the " impossible"-reincarnate). Askenazy, Abby Simon
Great pianist, Gilels....but, I am sorry, Horowitz OWNS this piece. (and I am not a ardent fan of Horowitz.....too flashy). But...Horowitz brought out effects that would have made Chopin happy indeed. No such epiphanies here, however.
As the late Madame Adele Marcus from the Juilliard School says to her students, when it's a great piece of music, don't do anything for effects, don't get in the way of the music, let it unfold. This exactly what Gilels have done. Listen carefully, you will hear subtle phrasing, color changes, no crazy tempo changes, and the beautiful sound that Gilels gets out of the piano. Note picking is not being a great artist, With great sensitivity, Gilels communicates what the piece has to say..
after hearing his boisterous Schumanntoccata .I expected an unthinking stlistically bad Chopin from da early Gilels.what I found was gorgeous colour with every TELLING note.He has ideas about how this music unfolds.BORING?Listen! to the subtle narrative develop .Sensitive in timing phrasings and rythms.
I was really surprised.He sounds so diferent from anyone.Wow.every measure a sensible musical shading.this is fantastic playing.I love Hofmannof course but this is wonderful!
if you listen to Horowitz, Hofmann and Cortot very often this recording might seem to be boring. But I think its only the big contrast between the Character of Gilels and the other three (who I adore in the same manner). Gilels is not searching for something extraordinary, he just play with power but very flowing, not showing hidden voices, emphasizing bass lines etc. Maybe its this lack of surprising elements......but his playing is great!!!
I found the other three boring compared to Gilels. The more I listen to this the more I like it and the more it reminds me of Rubenstein. You know, no nonsense no messing around.
I agree. It makes for a most uncomfortable listen. Most odd that one of the greatest pianists of the 20th Century could have produced such an unappealing recording. Luckily he has others that are truly genius.
"....Gilels and Lipatti will probably not be there..."
This has to be the most outrageous comment I had read on YT regarding pianists. I agree that I am not that familiar with Gilels's work, but Lipatti? I would expect a better rating from you for a guy whose every recording is considered a benchmark. I am stunned. If you limited the amount of piano geniuses to one, Lipatti would be it.
Okay, so this is my opinion but not even in the top 5 or 10? Who are your picks?
@truecrypt Yes rating the greats is difficult and perhaps exists only for the "rater" :-)
Having said that, Gilels is the true disciple of Rachmaninoff and Rach himself acknowledged Emil as just that. Who are we to contradict Rach? I certainly agree with him :-))
This is a GREAT pianist. He has a great sense of style! He adopts his sound and his game to the style that he's playing. It's even no use to talk about his fantastic sound!!
don't let this deranged troll's diarrhea spoil your enjoyment...
for sure this has little of the depth and originality of the mature Gilels (agree re somewhat schematic phrasing), but still a fascinating historical relique. amazing how the famous iridescence of his sound arrives gloriously intact through whatever reduced sound quality it is subjected to
Smith, surely your need for attention to absolutely every single phrase as entirely individual ruins the idea of structure in a piece. If phrases are differentiated based on structure, then you have a connoisseur's interpretation. Trying to be utterly expressive in every bar is childish.
i totally agree with you! i think it was horowitz who said once that you must be expressive, but not ALWAYS TOO MUCH expressive, otherwise instead of grandeur you get just trivial effects... it was somethink like that.
this is really a very clear interpretation! i think sometimes it rushes a bit, but overall it's of an extreme quality! especially the last part (Presto con fuoco). Only those who already studied this piece can understand how hard it is to play that part so fluently. I guess it is very close to what Chopin would wish... if we take his dislike of excessive rubati and banging.
c'est comme cela qu'on devrait voir l'oeuvre de chopin pas comme aujourd'hui plain de rubato non justifiée trop excessif avec des millions de ralenti tout cela sous pretext que c'est chopin donc romantique et donc en rajouté des tonnes .Merveilleuse interpretation
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Beautiful expressive feeling with boring predictable phrasing.Oh that's right,I forgot that Modern Performance rulesd out Chopin's Accelerandi and varied beat placement.Oh Well!
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If you like it,that means that the performer's soul must be tied on a leash and hidden,with only the hands allowed to "Realize" facts and disallow "Ghosts".
come to the conclusion he doesn t like music or listen but on some strange mission. generalising is bad . many good players of today have passed down from great teachers the only thing that really has changed is the way we live today and the way we are spoiled by instant choices of loads of cds.Packaged for one aim only.if no like switch off and let others enjoy this wondeful site. cheers.
It's easy to see that he is developing after the transition to revisionism has occured,because while he has decent expressive focus,the phrases are flattened
Smith only has one mantra and he applies it to anything he hears. He classifies all musicians in 2 categories: anti-expressives and good musicians. Anything he doesn't like is anti-expressive and categorized as the Objective Revisionism Movement. Once you've read one comment of his, you've read them all.
There are a few great pianists these include: Bachaus, Richter, Rachmaninoff, Gilels, Cortot, Horowitz, Yudina, Rubinstein, Lipatti, Paderwsky, Moseiwitch, Schnabel, Kempff, Anda, Gulda, Cziffra, Gieseking, Fischer, Friedman, Ginzburg, Gould, Hess, Haskil, Hoffman, Kapell, Ogdon, Serkin, Sofronitsky, Solomon, Arrau, Katchen, Francois, Godowsky, Michelangeli, Cliburn, Buosoni, Liszt and a few more that do not come to mind.
gkollias14 1 month ago
Definitely one of the best recordings of this piece ever.
forgottenbooks 1 month ago
Gilels isone of the greatest pianists.This is a marvellous interpretation.
agliso 4 months ago
yes, gilels is a weak performer, he plays this ballade as etud , in some parts unreasonably too fast
ANTiRussia1 4 months ago
@ANTiRussia1
I think people will enjoy your comment for years to come! ;)
truecrypt 4 months ago 5
For those who love Gilels, there is another version of this Chopin Ballade on YT, a live performance recorded much later, that is surreal and has extraordinary artistry and immense beauty (on the channel of Ewahartwig) :-))
Bret6464 7 months ago
Love the A Major section and the coda. :)
LordCalvinHastings 1 year ago
he really did let go and gave it all he got....the end result matters less than the earnestness he put into it. I can see Chopin in him...
movoning 1 year ago
Geezzzz......everyone's a big shot critic. Oh Well....those who cant do....are critics. BTW in my humble opinion, NO ONE has ever played this piece like Chopin intended it to be played its just that difficult to capture the spirit of this composition.....Horowitz has a spectaculraly showy version...interesting---- but not Mse. Chopin's at all. Michelangeli does a nice job...and, of course, theres me :)
sgivas 1 year ago
No one of our era compares to Gilles' performance as being exactly what was Chopins' intention interpretively or technically on this instrument(with the exception of Kissin live-which is totally transcending the " impossible"-reincarnate). Askenazy, Abby Simon
slsherwoodwells 1 year ago
From 5:13 to 5:33, he is simply unmatched.
ultracoolhomies 1 year ago
@ultracoolhomies yes unmatched by SPEED. But not in terms of beauty imo.
Elsenrail29 7 months ago
@ultracoolhomies yes....the scale down into the reprise of the Eb section is played brilliantly
fledgehog 7 months ago
Great pianist, Gilels....but, I am sorry, Horowitz OWNS this piece. (and I am not a ardent fan of Horowitz.....too flashy). But...Horowitz brought out effects that would have made Chopin happy indeed. No such epiphanies here, however.
GIVASWVHS 1 year ago
@GIVASWVHS I strongly recommend you to hear Perahia's and Arrau's versions. I am sure you will reconsider your opinion. regards.
Elsenrail29 7 months ago
I agree with bababablacksheep. Very beautiful, nonquirky, honest and transparent reading by a great musician. I really enjoyed it.
dallaspianophile 1 year ago
As the late Madame Adele Marcus from the Juilliard School says to her students, when it's a great piece of music, don't do anything for effects, don't get in the way of the music, let it unfold. This exactly what Gilels have done. Listen carefully, you will hear subtle phrasing, color changes, no crazy tempo changes, and the beautiful sound that Gilels gets out of the piano. Note picking is not being a great artist, With great sensitivity, Gilels communicates what the piece has to say..
babablacksheep288 2 years ago 3
after hearing his boisterous Schumanntoccata .I expected an unthinking stlistically bad Chopin from da early Gilels.what I found was gorgeous colour with every TELLING note.He has ideas about how this music unfolds.BORING?Listen! to the subtle narrative develop .Sensitive in timing phrasings and rythms.
I was really surprised.He sounds so diferent from anyone.Wow.every measure a sensible musical shading.this is fantastic playing.I love Hofmannof course but this is wonderful!
lovesGenet 2 years ago
maybe not perfect, but so unique and beautiful.
and that's how music should be...
Elicgt 2 years ago
Yo pienso que es una pieza muy apelante e interesante. Me gusta mucho.
MaGiLo90 2 years ago
C'est Magnifique...
Jamais entendu une aussi belle interprétation.
filao83 2 years ago
if you listen to Horowitz, Hofmann and Cortot very often this recording might seem to be boring. But I think its only the big contrast between the Character of Gilels and the other three (who I adore in the same manner). Gilels is not searching for something extraordinary, he just play with power but very flowing, not showing hidden voices, emphasizing bass lines etc. Maybe its this lack of surprising elements......but his playing is great!!!
Schibol 2 years ago 5
@Schibol
I found the other three boring compared to Gilels. The more I listen to this the more I like it and the more it reminds me of Rubenstein. You know, no nonsense no messing around.
FlashyCat2008 1 year ago
A little bit of 1 half step higher, mabe its the recorders fault.
puchalaka 2 years ago 2
I agree. It makes for a most uncomfortable listen. Most odd that one of the greatest pianists of the 20th Century could have produced such an unappealing recording. Luckily he has others that are truly genius.
michael1608 2 years ago
It sounds like this piano is tuned a step higher than most pianos or something... strange.
Butters109 2 years ago
A magical interpretation! Bravo Gilels!
sll10 2 years ago
the total pianist. truecrypt,i saw your comment about geniuses. don't you think 2 names are missing? 1,gilels-2 lipatti.just wondering.
chopinopus28 3 years ago 4
Very difficult call! ;)
If we limit the amount of piano geniuses by 5-10, Gilels and Lipatti will probably not be there...
But it's really stupid on my part to "categorize" pianists. They are so unique... Thank God we don't have to rate them!
truecrypt 3 years ago 2
to chopinopus28: 3. Horowitz.
dolnick 2 years ago
truecrypt,
"....Gilels and Lipatti will probably not be there..."
This has to be the most outrageous comment I had read on YT regarding pianists. I agree that I am not that familiar with Gilels's work, but Lipatti? I would expect a better rating from you for a guy whose every recording is considered a benchmark. I am stunned. If you limited the amount of piano geniuses to one, Lipatti would be it.
Okay, so this is my opinion but not even in the top 5 or 10? Who are your picks?
FlashyCat2008 1 year ago
Dear FlashyCat,
Please re-read what I said about how stupid the whole idea of "rating" is...
I understand your feelings though...;)
I'm sure if your good self would try to create a list of top 5 pianists, many people would be very disappointed too!
truecrypt 1 year ago 3
@truecrypt Yes rating the greats is difficult and perhaps exists only for the "rater" :-)
Having said that, Gilels is the true disciple of Rachmaninoff and Rach himself acknowledged Emil as just that. Who are we to contradict Rach? I certainly agree with him :-))
Bret6464 7 months ago
one of the best performance ever of this ballade if not the best
miliona1re 3 years ago 12
Gilels was one of the greatest ever.
Do you know his Schumann,Etudes symphoniques ?
He was the onely one who reaches Cortot's interpretation.
Greetings,Jan.
janvkimm 3 years ago
My God! How does he do it? What sound and phrasing!
Grigor99 3 years ago 3
This is a GREAT pianist. He has a great sense of style! He adopts his sound and his game to the style that he's playing. It's even no use to talk about his fantastic sound!!
armpiano 3 years ago 13
So, i see he has always had a beautiful sound!
helloimapianist 3 years ago
So Sweet! ;)
alexongcs 3 years ago
don't let this deranged troll's diarrhea spoil your enjoyment...
for sure this has little of the depth and originality of the mature Gilels (agree re somewhat schematic phrasing), but still a fascinating historical relique. amazing how the famous iridescence of his sound arrives gloriously intact through whatever reduced sound quality it is subjected to
amyparking 3 years ago 3
Smith, surely your need for attention to absolutely every single phrase as entirely individual ruins the idea of structure in a piece. If phrases are differentiated based on structure, then you have a connoisseur's interpretation. Trying to be utterly expressive in every bar is childish.
Haeronthegreat 3 years ago
i totally agree with you! i think it was horowitz who said once that you must be expressive, but not ALWAYS TOO MUCH expressive, otherwise instead of grandeur you get just trivial effects... it was somethink like that.
trms83br 3 years ago
this comment was for "haeronthegreat"
trms83br 3 years ago
this is really a very clear interpretation! i think sometimes it rushes a bit, but overall it's of an extreme quality! especially the last part (Presto con fuoco). Only those who already studied this piece can understand how hard it is to play that part so fluently. I guess it is very close to what Chopin would wish... if we take his dislike of excessive rubati and banging.
trms83br 3 years ago
c'est comme cela qu'on devrait voir l'oeuvre de chopin pas comme aujourd'hui plain de rubato non justifiée trop excessif avec des millions de ralenti tout cela sous pretext que c'est chopin donc romantique et donc en rajouté des tonnes .Merveilleuse interpretation
istreba 3 years ago
one of the best version i ever heard in my life
abbjorko 3 years ago
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Beautiful expressive feeling with boring predictable phrasing.Oh that's right,I forgot that Modern Performance rulesd out Chopin's Accelerandi and varied beat placement.Oh Well!
smithsherman 3 years ago
I can t stop listening to the sound he makes
chad410 4 years ago
What an impassioned ending to a remarkable performance. Such youthful exuberance! Bravo Gilels.
lourak 4 years ago 2
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If you like it,that means that the performer's soul must be tied on a leash and hidden,with only the hands allowed to "Realize" facts and disallow "Ghosts".
smithsherman 4 years ago
Gilels rules!
suzettegm 4 years ago
Gilels rules ...boredom.
smithsherman 4 years ago
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yes, it is very boring and tiring
arwena55 2 years ago
This is what Objective Revisionism in general in Post World War 1 did to Instrumentalists.
It diminished the expressive capacity of very talented people.(Ostensibly for Good),but in the end Dehumanized us.Hello Modernity!
smithsherman 4 years ago
Explain "this".
pianopera 4 years ago
This is what freakish Subjective Charlatanism in general does to instrumentalists.
It diminishes the capacity to recognize very talented people.
Ostensibly funny, but in the end it only Irritates us. Hello Uploader, know your duty!
pianopera 4 years ago 2
come to the conclusion he doesn t like music or listen but on some strange mission. generalising is bad . many good players of today have passed down from great teachers the only thing that really has changed is the way we live today and the way we are spoiled by instant choices of loads of cds.Packaged for one aim only.if no like switch off and let others enjoy this wondeful site. cheers.
chad410 4 years ago 2
This Performance Practice Aesthetic as a whole.
smithsherman 4 years ago
It's easy to see that he is developing after the transition to revisionism has occured,because while he has decent expressive focus,the phrases are flattened
& equalized so that all unfolds predictably.
smithsherman 4 years ago
How are phrases "flattened & equalized"?
pianopera 4 years ago
this generalising is annoying. he has such a bel canto quality here i have no idea what Smith is on about. really
chad410 4 years ago
chad410, I totally agree with you, just annoying! I have no idea either.
LVB1770 4 years ago
Smith suffers from Objective Revisionist tunnelvision...it's a disease that makes you see only 2 colours.
allegrissimo 4 years ago 3
Smith only has one mantra and he applies it to anything he hears. He classifies all musicians in 2 categories: anti-expressives and good musicians. Anything he doesn't like is anti-expressive and categorized as the Objective Revisionism Movement. Once you've read one comment of his, you've read them all.
allegrissimo 4 years ago 2
By articulatively weighting equally the attack & sustain of each.
smithsherman 4 years ago
Excellent challenge! Keep asking him simple questions like this. You will prevail.
lourak 4 years ago