windows xp on palm tx

[whizkid515]

@jimmypictures The TX uses a PXA270, which is developed by Intel.

[whizkid515]

@jimmypictures The PXA270 was developed by Intel.

[AXEMOGULKAHN17]

it can be posible by using PALMDOSBOX!!!!

[joker71496]

that looks really good



[2BunnyReturns]

Where is the windows xp on a Palm tx part of the video though?

[TheAero778]

i know its fake but is this a app if it is i want it

[rebelgirl88xx]

its a vnc

[motosportjunkie]

sick. (if real.) Hey! Guys! lets go shoot a controversial video we claim is true with a handheld digital camera, crappy framerate, and sketchy lighting ...yeah....thatl work....

[Rex20961]

its remote desktop client for palm after"10 min. later"

screen refreshing as bricks

[andrewstuartallen]

Watch to the end. Enlightenment shall be the reward (at about 4:22). ;-)

[RyuDarragh]

(Well, this video is a fake, but Windows CE isn't :P You can also get Linux for the T|X)

[RyuDarragh]

Not fake. The proc in the T|X is a kissing cousin of the x86 used in the PC called the iapx280 and iapx290. It runs at 333MHz and has most of the Pentium instruction set. Windows CE/Mobile is a version of Windows XP that Indel and M$ developed for these processors. If the program you got was labelled "WinCE", it would run on any Windows CE machine. I don;t know if the SDK is still available from M$, but with a little tweaking, you can make a binary .PRC file that will boot Win XP extra lite.

[whizkid515]

The ARM is WAY different than the x86. Just because they are both developed by intel does not mean that they use a similar architecture. Also Windows CE is nowhere near what XP is and it's been around for a lot longer.

[RyuDarragh]

Most of the instructions are the same, if not binary, and CE could be made to run on it and updates to CE, last I saw, give it most of the capabilities and eye candy of XP. All some enterprising soul need to is craft up the few replacement instructions that have no equivalent. NOP is NOP, no matter the processor :P

[NovelWhoop]

What the fuck ?? I cant belive it !! :P

[Keepcool1977]

fakeee oh what a fakeeeeeeee

[mxrkojs]

OOOOOooooooooOOOOOOo

Q ChiDo

[mavamaarten]

Z00000mg xD

[SilverDragonWarrior]

How you feel? See people tried ask to you " where you get idea and where link or thing you teach to us use?" which I gave you rate star is "0" poor.......

[jasonwkc]

how come!

so power of palm!

[RyuDarragh]

I pop the SD card in and I have a version of Windows, with Office Mobile and MediaPlayer Mobile and all that jazz that uses the SD card as the primary boot drive. Since it's an SDHC card and the YX needs PowerSDHC to read the card and WinM doesn't have a bootloader that can boot natively from this card, I made one to start PowerSDHC and emulate a proper WinM compatible bootloader. It's just "drop the SD in and it autoboots".. WinM is written for the PXA (ARM5 code). All the programs are native.

[RyuDarragh]

The image on my SDHC card needs 1GB and uses all of the internal memory (RAM) of the T|X. It's "cooked" and includes the touch screen WinM drivers and other TX drivers lifted directly from the 5.5 OS SDK, with suitable mods, kept on the SD card. Only one .PRC file on the T|X is needed to boot the WinM kernal on the SD card (which is an 8GB card). Had to do that because the card is an SDHC and can't directly boot without PowerSDHC running, which booting off the SD directly breaks :P

[Foxi4Qnet]

And why exactly would Your palm even want to "run" the WinM image if there is no bootloader? I still don't get how it is supposed to work. ;)

[BakuChris]

RyuDarragh do you have intructions to get Windows Mobile on Palm TX ? Like a Package to download?

[Keepcool1977]

I think he's simply using a remote desktop program conected to a real pc with xp running

[ryugodofgaidden]

where and how did u did that?

[Foxi4Qnet]

It's possible on Pocket PC via the Bochs x86 emulator, i don't know if there is a Palm version of it but if there is, it's surely not a remote desktop (although, when you watch the way the video is lagging - it surely looks like an RD...). Question is, does it make sense to run Windows XP/98/95 with 66mhz Pentium horsepower, because that's the top x86 architecture processor an ARM CPU can emulate nowadays. It doesn't let you do much except paint, really.

[RyuDarragh]

It *IS* an Intel processor inside there running at about 333MHz.

[Foxi4Qnet]

Doesn't matter. It's not the x86 architecture. You can't just run windows on anything labeled Intel. Windows XP wasn't designed for ARM processors, Windows CE was. Even if it was a 728mhz ARM you wouldn't run XP on it unless you'll emulate the x86 architecture. And it's a 312mhz, not 333mhz... unless it's overclocked.

[RyuDarragh]

Yeah, Foxi. Meant 312. Did OC it once to 416, but that ate battery life much faster than normal. I have a hot key that ups the clock to 366MHz when I'm playing widescreen MPG2 files from an SD card as SDHC support using PowerSDHC needs the clockage to do both. And, if I'm feeling especially masochistic, I can run WindowsMobile from an SD card (got the code from M$ and Marvell Tech).

[Foxi4Qnet]

That's interesting, especialy since every Windows Mobile rom is different in terms of drivers installed. For example, an HTC Touch Windows Mobile rom won't run on a Mio or any other device without adding multiple resources and "cooking" it.

[Foxi4Qnet]

A complete database of all existing Windows CE drivers would be one big monstrous file, wouldn't it? Therefor, how can you fit it on a single SD? Provided that it is acually possible, how does Windows CE kernel solves the ram problem, since after Windows Mobile 5, all the new systems use the same chip for both - storage memory AND ram? Does it divide the "card" where the system is instaled or does it use the whole memory chip as ram, which is highly doubtful?

[Foxi4Qnet]

Not to mention that each booting system for each pocket pc device uses different extensions for the WM package, plus each package has to be optimized to work with different CPU architecture (MIPS, SH3, and the most common ARM and clones, such as SuperARM and XScale).

[o0PinKFisH0o]

Sorry, I did not watch until the end before leaving a comment. :3

[o0PinKFisH0o]

Even the "10 minutes later" is bullshit.

No way it would be able to run it if it took 10 mins to boot.

[snor95]

He uses remote desktop

[e1num3r0un0]

might be win hand anywhere but i dont knows

[masterofpc11]

what emulator did you use? lol

[JohnMit90]

is this a phone?

[blackquaman]

I have a t/x and would like to have either windws xp or vista it doesn't matter . but your video is too blurry to understand. any other way to get info?

[orionespot]

HSASHUAHSHA LOL

[elvis32z]

LOL. Douche

[charleswolfman]

x86 emulation on arm has been around for a while, i used to run dos software on my ipaq, and that was five years ago, it sure as hell took them long enough to bring this to palm

[supportthe85]

how do i get it (b/w would help my m500)?

do they have it for linux? Plz

Reply soon

[TWSSProductions]

Ha, thats sweet.

[sirvecom]

eeeh tiene audio? y los drivers de donde los sacas... creo que mejor sera usar un buen skin y meterle hartos programas, nagevadores web un firefox para palm no estaria mal, msn juegos y con eso estamos al otro lado.

[lemonlaw95]

*screen images simulated

[diewin86]

how you do that??:.. can you show?? pleasee.. ii have a TX.. a reily need a window in my palm.. for make a work and homework.. please... teaching me..

[herofearth]

fuck this pussy

[JayTheFishy]

He is playing a video on his palm tx. The message displayed before hand which says SD card Slot: 1 or What ever is a gif that has been added to the beginning of the video then he recorded actions of him using a low resolution and converted it to palm size so it fits perfectly. All he had to do next was write down the actions. Thats why the "start up" lag is the video actually pausing and unpausing thats why his actions seem to be a head of the palm AND THATS WHY YOU SHOULDNT WATCH THIS VIDEO!

[ecgta3]

no he's not, and if he is then he did a damn good job

[adanedhel728]

I don't know if it's just a video, but something is definitely fishy.

[adanedhel728]

Oh, do you think it might be a remote desktop? That seems plausible to me, FAR more plausible than actually RUNNING xp on a TX.

[rtensor]

Also notice the buttons on the left side are always out of the frame. He's probably pausing and re-starting the video to sync up with his taps on the screen.

[anklebraka18]

i think this is palm vnc which shows the pc screen on your palm

[EspeditoTito]

puro fake... acreditem n funciona..

[fuckaverageusers]

This cocksucker has kept us with no answer for a long time. The only possible way would be that he had a fullscreen video and good sync.

[Medevila]

Tis' already possible to run full Linux on Palm. Windowed browsing and all. My favorite port is called "Opie".

[Leffelsc]

I think Opie is the only "funtional" linux port for the TX/LD

[JayTheFishy]

Opie, openmoki and gpe are the three ports on linux. GPE and Opie are not fully fuctional and I haven't tried openmoki

[JayTheFishy]

Actually Opie and GPE do not work with wifi on a palm tx. openmoki might work.

[ieatlotz]

Can openmoki support any version of windows? I only heard of it doing Linux.

[supportthe85]

linux is cool

it runs on ds, palm, ti-89/92, fossil pda watch, atari STs, laptops, desktops, and backpaks.

[fuckaverageusers]

well, but how does he boot then? If he connects through VNC, then the booting of XP would not be seen by us!

[Grunb]

Well, palm TX doesn't run Win XP because of the processor speed, but because the processor's instructions... If Palms processors were x86, palm tx would be able to run at least windows 95, and windows XP if it had more ram memory. Palms processors's are ARM...

[BakuChris]

i have searched everywhere and i cannot find XPalm eXPerience or the website ? could someone give me a link to the software ? or website ? :)

[wilsonkbradley]

Fake.

Remote desktop connecting to a pc with 320x480 rez setup.

i do it all the time.

[Technohick]

yeh thats kind of what i thought it was to begin with put i was hopefull...oh well i didnt think a palm tx would be able to run xp.

[wilsonkbradley]

You can tell the way it's refreshing.. Map squares. A PC doesn't refresh like that.

[chimera15]

I don't think this is fake, there's a website that has the roms to do it and people are reporting windows 95 success on their palms. I have xp on my old p1' 160mhz and tungstens have 400 mhz processors. Noone's reported working xp on the site, so this would be most impressive. I just wonder why the author puts this out there then doesn't say what exactly it is and how we can do it. I have a tungsten t5 I'd love to try it on since they have faster processors than the tx.

[andydamg]

i cant find the xpalm app online

[fuckaverageusers]

Well, I am not interested in XP, but if you could do this...it means you cna put a light Linux OS like puppy linux or even Ubuntu! So my TX will be the shit

[JayTheFishy]

It doesn't automatically mean you can put linux on it also you could just use opie, GPE or I think one person got debian to work on it.

[JayTheFishy]

Meh if I wanted windows on my palm I would have bought something with windows mobile on it...

[Jamalrq]

Well I've got xp on my Palm TX. I use a program called XPalm eXPerience. But it isn't a standard XP on a Palm-it is a special type of Windows designed for Palm TX LD and all Treos'. My uncle made it and you can get it on his webite. The Unlock code is 6253850.

I belive this is a proper windows.

[soymestephen]

what is the web site? I want to get xp on my palm tx and I am just stunned that it can run windows xp.

[davronru]

HOW THE FUCK??? Did you create such a fake video??

[pv21121990]

That is FAKE 100% Fake, the ARM processor its very, ultra very slowly to run x86 programs

Eso es 100% falso, el procesador ARM de la palm es lento, muy muy lento, no podria correr programas ni aplicaciones x86, apenas el WINDOWS 95, como mucho!!!

[chimera15]

Please let us know what the heck this is, palm tx's are going for like $200 on ebay, this would be the lowest cost umpc ever.

[chimera15]

So this is a program that's in testing? by who? you? What's it called? I searched google for something like this and couldn't find anything. It'll run x86 programs from within palm os too? Or???

[leomtxwebmaster]

Good Video-hand sincronization :p

[fuckaverageusers]

Hey... I am not kidding. WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT? HOW THE FUCK DID YOU DO IT?

[yertalert]

its most likely fake...

[yertalert]

its most likely fake...

[coruptkomix]

Can you take it off?

[fuckaverageusers]

Dude...what the fuck is that?

[NetworkChannel]

damned that definitly owns me dude..

[fuckaverageusers]

I don't know what kind of creepy dark magic you have there but this is what I got from the guy with the emulator

"It doesn't only emulate an x86 CPU but also a DOS environment, so you can't install another x86 operating system"

[PhrkOnLsh]

PalmVNC sure is cool...

[v3dgames]

thats is NOT palmVNC?

1. palmVNC can not run in true color.

2. there is no vnc installed on my laptop

3. the screen res is at 480*320.

[PhrkOnLsh]

Ok, since you are making points shall I?

1. XP's lowest natives resolution is 640x480. How is this scaled to 320x480?

2. Intel xscale maxes out at 546Mhz (that's overclocked mind you). XP's minimum specs lists 1.4Ghz Intel P4. How will an emulator, an x86 emulator mind you, even get close to these minimum specs?

If this isn't palmvnc than it's simply an animation playing on your T|X or something. If this is real let's see a binary.

[PhrkOnLsh]

/me waves at v3dgames

[chimera15]

Those specs definately aren't true for xp, I have xp running on a 223 mhz p2, without many slowdowns at all, and it runs fantastic on my 1.3 p3's.

[chimera15]

Oh you mean with the emulator...?

[dohjoh29]

OHHHHH SHIIIIIIITTTT

[escaladez3]

It is possible to set your computer to run in 480x320 res buy enabling all resolutions in advanced display options(have auxillary lcd in my case that runs on a wierd low res.) And while it is true palmVNC only supports 256 colors, Remote Desktop prc's allow up to 16-bit (max I've seen) color. The block image loading gave it away. If it was running natively, it would have to draw the image line by line. But an excellent trick, you had a convincing arguement.

[PhrkOnLsh]

PalmVNC sure is cool...

[jccb3]

Es un afarsa ... yo instale solo la mascara o skin iSpin y parece el XP sin ninguna farsa...

[dcho]

"10 mim. later..."

ROFL!!!

[junkiesoul]

that's imposible....

check the last seconds...

[fifanotix]

where can i download it???

[randythao]

Extremely too slow. I like it but I guess it's not fast enough to record infomation while you are meeting, etc.

[dalech22]

where can i get?