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  • it would be a sad day if becouse the new music is so shity that they gotta steal the old music and make it soud like the new music sounds like crap let the old music keep its heart and soul dont steal the soul of the old songs.

  • dont let these new people steal the old songs they will change them and take the heart and soul out of the music 

  • everybody knows the shangralas is mary weiss

  • to use their name..then say it was them in 1965!! mr. fox should get this whole business crammed up his money-hungry ass!!!!

  • Making money off someone else's fame ehhhh? Sounds like every tribute band

  • @jimatay no..a tribute band does not portray themselves as the original band/group!!! big difference!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Fox, why would you research the name in the first place, unless you had some money making motive, you thief, you scumbag piece of shit

  • Dick Fox is full of shytt! He's not even believable here.

  • I love the 80's

  • This guy is a crook and a fraud...

  • THIS REALLY BLOWS! I SAW THE ORIGINAL SHANGI-LA'S WAY BACK WHEN THEY HAD THEIR HITS AT MURRAY THE K'S ROCK N ROLL HOLIDAY SHOWS AT THE BROOKLYN FOX THEATER. WHO THE HELL DOES THIS JERK THINK HE IS FAKING OUT THE PUBLIC WHO PAY TO SEE THE REAL SHANGRI-LAS? THEN HAS THE NERVE TO THINK IT'S OK TO SEND OUT FAKE GIRLS AND SING THEIR SONGS AS IF THEY ARE THE REAL GROUP JUST BECAUSE HE COULD BUY THE NAME? WHAT A JERK!

  • So slimey! I'd rather starve than pretend and live off something that someone else worked so hard to create!!

  • what a slime ball

  • They shoulda whacked 'em...

  • this is a clear rip off. the new group is fraud when they claim that it's their music. they did not create the band, or the music. simple as that.

  • I love watching this guy squirm . I have seem a lot of these fakes. I don't care whether he can buy the name or not. It's deceiving .

  • @SuesDaytona well of course and when they stand up there on stage and claim that it's their music, they should go to jail for fraud, theft and that should be the end of it. i'm surprized they ever thought they could get away with it!

  • @m1kewithaone I agree with everything you say. Nothing like paying money to see a fake. You might as well stay home and do Karaoke...HAHAHAHAHAHA! And buy a pizza. lol

  • @SuesDaytona yah sue, but i wouldn't mind it if they admitted they were fake. they might still be fun to watch, and after all, the shangri las aren't around anymore. but what they did, was actually claim that they are the originals, which they are not, and that they created those songs, which they did not, and that my dear is a rock and roll fail, big time. :)

  • What a snake! the Shangri-Las were horribly managed from the get-go.  None of the members made much money from their big hit records. An extremely talented group and the beautiful Weiss sisters, they'd be massive stars today.

  • That producer: Dick by name... DICK by nature!!

  • It should tell us all something in that the narrator calls him "Rick", but Fox chooses to call himself "Dick"....how true it is...he's a BIG dick, and apparently, even he knows it.

  • fox is the lowest form of slime he is a complete scum douche bag con man rip off may his testicles shrivel and be infested with deer ticks

  • Notice how Fox keeps stammering. He knew good and well those girls were fraudulent.

  • what a parasite

  • this guy is a dirt bag of the lowest order!

  • Another sick thing is that Dick Fox actually SUED Mary, Betty and Margie to stop THEM from using the name. Fox LOST, and the originals got to perform the show they were scheduled to do in 1989. I hope there's a special place in hell for a piece of trash like Dick Fox.

  • @RareMusicalGems

    I grew up with the Shangri-Las and was in Betty's class. We were so proud of their accomplishments! A few years ago, I attended a doo wop concert where the "Shangri-Las" were billed (I knew it would be fakes). We sat on the aisle seats and when they left the stage, I reached out to one of them and said, "How dare you refer to these songs as one of YOUR original hits?" They got very embarrassed, and rightly so. Fox is a slease-bag, and opportunist parasite.

  • Richard Fox is garbage. The Shangs aren't the only group he's done this to. What a piece of trash. A self-satisfied piece of trash.

  • That guy is a dirtbag!

  • Interesting to see Richard Nader in this clip, may he rest in peace. His wife carries on the booking business. There are a lot of questionable line ups of groups performing these days.

  • Interesting to see Richard Nader in this clip, may he rest in peace. His wife carries on the booking business.

  • omigosh, i didn't think that was even possible! they had every right to be mad!

  • Love the part in the interview where Fox says, 'If they had come to me and said, 'Hey Dick'....' No doubt the vast majority of people who meet him say exactly that. Let's face it, we all know the score, so why he tries to justify his actions to the camera is beyond me. The real Shangri-Las are among the heroines of 1960's music. That is fact. Never mind, maybe his next female group, 'Dina Rozz & The Soupreems' will fare better.

  • About 20 years ago in 1990 or '91 I went to the Dick Fox Rock & Roll Revival at Westbury Music Fair on Long Island and saw the Shangri-Las. (I guess I never saw the Entertainment Tonight episode the year before and all these years until I saw this on YouTube a few mos. ago I really thought I saw the real group and couldn't believe how young they looked. I FEEL SO CHEATED!!! Thank G-d for YouTube!!!

  • Don't it just burn you how that sleaze Dick Fox steals the Shangri-Las name and has the nerve to say..."well, if the real ones want to work FOR ME, then of course I'd let them." If that guy's fake SHAM-rilas ever do a show in your town, be sure to show up and BOO them right to their faces.

  • the shangri-video which appears in the minute 1:45

    this on youtube or not?

  • @Ivan1Drago

    Did you mean the clip at 3:45?  If so then, yep, it's on YouTube. Just search: "Shangri-Las Give Him A Great Big Kiss".

  • OMG that manager guy is the epitome of SCUMBAG!

  • Dick Fox. Tree.  Rope.

    Some assembly required.

  • You can look at Dick Fox and tell he knows what he's doing is wrong.

  • I read somewhere that Mary Wilson, one of the original Supremes, spearheaded a campaign to prevent "new' groups from using the group names if there aren't any original members included-

  • Just another example of how cut-throat the music business really is-

  • This puts me in mind of what happen to the singing group Johnny and the Hurricanes. There was a lot of undercutting and evil karma that happen back then. I always loved listening to the true Shangri-Las group. They deserved better then what they got.. This guy is a real bum....Blessings Mary Weiss your a real trooper.

  • That Fox guy is a total slimeball, the guy is pure bullshit, glad they put a stop to that.

  • I wanna kick his ask!

  • Wow, does that Richard Fox guy look and sound like a scumbag!! Typical lazy ass who wants to make money the easiest way possible.

  • Reminds me of record compilations they had back in the 70's sung by "The Original Artists". Turned out the name of the group was "The Original Artists". There is always some piece of crap out to try and rip off people by being a sleaze bag.

  • I believe if the "imposters" and Dick Fox were in the same room with Margie she would've settled their hash... The Shangs were one of the best girl groups of the 60s imho. Love them! It's ashame they got ripped off this way.

  • I believe if the "imposters" and Dick Fox were in the same room with Margie she would've settled their hash... The Shangs were one of the best girl groups of the 60s imho. Love them!

  • That manager trying to feign ignorance of his girls' fraud... sorry, I'm not impressed!

  • I saw the fakes back then , they sucked.

  • i'm going to call myself the beatles.

  • This FOX guy is a scumbag.

  • my reason would be a punch in the face!

  • Richard Fox...low life bottom feeder prick.

  • Omg....how infuriating. What low-life, hollywood scum. And how can those three whores (the fake Shangri-Las) stand there and pretend to be the REAL Shangri-las???? Have you no dignity and self-respect? Yuck. Fucking pathetic.

  • Why would you want a name that's already taken....STUPID!!!

  • @babyboi1002

    To make money off of it, that's why.

    I love the guy's feigned surprise. "One of MY GIRLS said THAT?" What a dirtbag.

  • Very sad that they no longer own their name.

  • In a few of the original videos there was a 4th girl. Did she step out of the group early?

  • The 4th girl is Betty and she's one of the women speaking in this clip.

    She got pregnant around he time the group were recording their first album, so she only occasionally appeared on TV shows and live shows.

  • @dazzababes Mary Ann Ganser died in 1970.

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  • @Jnkdog I noticed this, too. I would have been 13 years old around this time and I only remember 3 girls. I saw them at a rock'n'roll show in Birmingham, Alabama around that time.

  • Didn't recognize Betty with that dark hair. Wow. Margie looks 30 years older than the other two, didn't recognize her either. Well, this was just wrong -- it happened to the group, "Sha Na Na" also and Jon "Bowser" Bauman fought that hard.

    Anyone recognize the anchor? The 80's style was so different from now that I can't put my finger on her. But I recognize her...

  • That's Mary Hart, mundymanor.

    Isn't she still doing that same job today?

  • Dunno -- I haven't had TV for so long I think I've even forgotten what Dick Clark looks like. Well... almost.

  • Hmm...... Reminds me of Frank Farian and his scams...

  • What's the name of that first song they were singing? the "oh no" one?

  • The name of the song is "Remember Walkin' in the Sand."

  • Thanks

  • Kurtywurty, you may recognize this song as it was also sung by Aerosmith.

  • I've actually never heard the Aerosmith version...just this one but it was a really long time ago.

  • marge was givin' it to 'em!

  • Why should he be able to use thier name whether or not they trademarked it? It is false advertising either way..

  • This guy is a snake and needs to go to prison.

  • this bad crap of stealing.... is the reason we are stuck with rap music ..bad management.. we lost rock and roll .. long live rock and roll

  • @dreamaker12 No, you're wrong there. I won't thumb you down because you're ignorant.

  • @dreamaker12 No, your reasoning is totally bizarre. Stealing and bad management was already happening in rock'n'roll's beginning.  You know little.

  • @dreamaker12 You know very little about music.

  • Bastard. I hope he invested in Bernie Madoff,

  • That guy who stole the name is a fucking asshole! bald mo'fuckaaa

  • This guy is on glue

  • Marge should have said, "When I say I'm mad, you best believe I'm mad, M-A-D!"

  • That is so funny, but isn't that Mary Weis' line?

  • did they ever actually reunite that summer?

  • Yes. In June 1989, Mary, Betty and Margie performed together for the last time at a Cousin Brucie show in New Jersey.

  • What a shyster this guy is !.

  • the guy who stole the name is a fucking douche.

  • 20 years ago...wow time is flying

  • As many of you know Bowzer (John Bauman) and Joe Terry ( of Danny and the Juniors) have gotten legislation passed in a lot of states to prevent groups that are not the original groups from using the original group name. Groups using the names of the Coasters and the Drifters are the worst offenders.

  • on the videotape the rip-offs remind of the 5678s hahaha. the 5678s are cool, as are the real Shangri-Las, but..lol

  • dick fo xis sucha sycophantic slime...trying to get attention off of someone lese success and legacy..what DICk..he is TRULY named appropriatly.

  • richard fox what fuck sycophant loser

  • what a low-life lying scum this guy Dick Fox is...

    I saw the fake Shangri-Las years back...they weren't

    any good...I asked the "leader" for her autograph backstage just to see what name she would sign...

    she just signed "Shangri-Las"... having recently seen Mary Weiss of the real, original ShangriLas perform in NYC, I once again

    say "long live the real Shangs!" (unfortunately

    two of the four originals have passed on...)

  • That is disgusting.. That those people went onstage and said things like, "Our music.. our songs."

  • I am a fan of the Shangri-Las!!! I know who they were..the originals! I won't settle for LESS!!!!

  • Only one way to handle slime like Dick fox. I'll go look for a tree... You'all bring a rope!

  • these peoepl are ASSHOLES..theys hopuld have at least called themsleves a shangri las TRIBUTE band instead of ripping off these great talented girl group

  • You see this is what happens when you don't write your own songs! I like the original Shangri-Las, but when you're not a singer-songwriter, you have no say over who remakes the songs, and you get no royalties if a company uses the songs.

  • a video tape?

    LMAO!

  • Don't worry these people will go to hell, what scum to do this. You own shit.

    Where is the respect for these women?

    This is horrific.

  • dick is short for RICHARD ..get what im saying?

  • I saw the fake Shangri-Las about two years ago open for a very real Dion. They were awful and only performed two Shangri Las songs. The rest was stuff like the Supremes and the Ronnettes. They were awful.

  • What a wanker that DICK Fox is!

  • i saw the fake Shangri Las last night. also with a fake diamonds group. glad it was free for me. still feel ripped off.

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  • Dick Fox and Mars Talent are full of shyt. They know exactly what they are doing and are deliberately misleading the public.

  • its not morally or ethically by any means right for a new formed group to pass themselves off as an orginal group. that girl group rocked it was fun they had fun .we enjoyed thier tallent and songs go get'm .GIRLS!

  • I have just visited mars talent agency and they are still calling themselves the shangri las, and it does not say they are a tribute act, They are passing them off as the real group.

  • Still? These phoney baloneys could at least call themselves the Shangri-lets, a tribute to...that could work. Dick Fox and the rest of them should be ashamed.

  • Motown's MARVELETTES are going through the SAME PROBLEM. The original members can't perform under their own name because some ruthless promoter now owns it and is using it for a younger group. I think his name is Larry Marshak .

  • Stepphenwolf had this problem too! Richard Fox is a self centered money monger a hole

  • DICK, you hve the right name. Get a life, scum bag.

  • is the 1st live performance clip of the ORIGINAL Shangri-Las (not those fake imitators which are a load of crap who are just willing to make a quick buck off the original 3 ladies' hard work) from Top Of The Pops?

    Those 3 new ones are jerks and the whole FOX corporation is fucked up. Long live the (Original) Shangri-Las!

  • DICK thats what you are. You are such a scum bag living off of success of a previous generation. Get a life and come up with something original, scum!!!!

  • what a disgrace!!! the original is soooooooo much better instead of the new one

  • Something similar happened to me when I went to see "The Crystals" perform. I was only about 15 at the time (I'm 31 now) and even I could tell they were fake.

    Long live the Shangs!

  • This a disgrace- What a shame that The Shangri Las have to fight for their music-- They have all the right in the world not to work if they don't want and they don't need a no talent like Richard Fox to tell them otherwise, while promoting some sham band to fool unsuspecting fans-

  • I hosted a concert at Playland in Rye, NY around 1988 that was billed as starring The Shangri-Las -- and was shocked to go backstage before the show and meet the fake quartet -- all obviously not even BORN in the '60s. Incensed, I refused to introduce them onstage as The Shangri-Las. Instead, I spoke of the REAL group and retitled the show "a tribute." Afterwards I told Fox to go to hell. BTW -- the real girls won their suit against the jerk. Sadly, Marge died of breast cancer in 1998.

  • Margie looking like she about to curse somebody out 1:55

  • Look at Mary rolling her eyes at 1:35....love her!!

  • It's an outrageous situation, but I have to admit I enjoy watching Margie Ganser's fury--it makes it obvious their tough-girls image wasn't just an image!

  • I totally remember this segment when it was first aired. The brunette in red is Betty Wiese, the one who sang on 'Leader of the Pack'; it wasn't Mary who did. Betty often didn't appear live with the girls (her choice), although she performed on all the tracks - sometimes as the lead voice. I can't believe they were only teenagers. Good on them! x

  • It WAS Mary who sang lead vocals on 'Leader of the Pack'.

  • No it was Betty

  • Dazz is right. It was Mary who sang lead on LEADER. Betty was supposed to sing lead, but Shadow Morton put Mary on lead, even though Betty had the better singing voice. Just like the Supremes. Flo Ballard was the original lead, but Berry Gordy put Diana Ross as the group's lead.

  • Flow Ballard was a drunk who was rididuled with emotional and psychological problems. She was also an average singer. Her solo shit is on youtube. go listen !!

  • her "oh holy night is pretty moving"

    check it out.

  • daina ross is a whore...no seriously she is a whore..she sleptt her way to the top.

  • i agree!

  • I think the confusion comes from the girls referring to the singer as "Betty" on the track, but it sure sounds like Mary to me. You seem to be a big Shangs fan so maybe you can tell me why they decided to say "Betty" instead of "Mary." I've always wondered that. Thanks a million for posting this!!!

  • @dazzababes Mary DEFINITELY sang the lead...

  • @iowa61

    Yes, that's what I said.

  • that guy's a loser.

  • fuck fox

  • the new shangri las are a bunch of loser whores. thay wish they were the originals. i hate them !!

  • That's just WRONG. no one is original anymore. new songs are hacked with computers ripping off old songs music like cut and paste

  • Fran and Joe Canfield probably were interviewed for at least a 1/2 an hour, and all that was used was Joe saying "shocked"

    lol

  • yeah, what a joke! mary s got one of the most distinctive voices ever, and her new record rocks! cant wait to see her its so cool that she s playing shows and singing the clasics!!!

  • thats so fucked

    <3

    the REAL Shangri-Las

  • I recently saw (Jan.2008) the bogus Shangri Las group and they were truly awful ! Very unprofessional- only one of the three had a "fairly decent" voice...a real waste of time going to see them!

  • The good news is that Mary Weiss returned last year with a whole new album and she is singing again and sounds great!!!!

  • Notice the feigned look of surprise, "You saw a tape, a video tape??" He's so full of shyt!

  • "Specifically why I made them young" HAHA

    He thinks he's God.

  • Lowest scumbag....

  • Booooooo! to producer Fox.

  • How sad. That name-thief is a lunatic, everybody can tell.

  • wow. that's pretty bogus. the fake shangri las actually said ""OUR" music". how low can you get

  • So whatever happened? If that ET clip was from 1989 did Mary and the girls get back into it. I've never seen or heard of them

    bsck out doing shows. They would be great for

    one of T.J. Lubinski's PBS specials.

  • I'd like to know that question as well.

  • They did a reunion I believe 1989 or 1990. Sadly the surviving twin passed away years later. As for the fake Shangri-Las, no one bought them. Everyone knew they were fakes.

  • I hope the Shangri-Las were able to get this thing settled and back to making money off THEIR name-they were the greatest girl group of the 60's!!!

  • geez thAT dick fox is a real slime doggie - i hope the women won their lawsuit. anybody know?

  • the shangri las were kind of ripped off.they made and sang songs and got paid very little,but the music industry has made and still is making multi millions off thier songs. off thier songs.

  • What a rip off. The same thing happened to another great group, Reparata and the Delrons. I hope the original and real Shangri-Las sue the pants off this moneygrubbing faker.

  • There was also company that put together both a fake Steppenwolf, and a fake Deep Purple in the late '70s.

  • The fake Shangri-las are still very much around. Check out the Mars Talent website. I saw these guys several years ago. The young brunette is the daughter of the older one. As you see on this page, there's a bio of the REAL Shangri-las associated with a photo of the fake ones, and these guys did indeed talk about OUR hits during their show. I suggest we all bombard this agency with Emails of protest.

  • The second group are FAKES not the original group. The second group are RIP OFF ARTISTS claiming to be something they are not. Leeching off the reputation and hard work of the original group.

  • This incident is not dissimiliar to my recent venture out to see Jay and the Americans. After the show I overheard one of the "Americans" talking about his summer home in Calgary. Hmmmm, I'm not saying he was Canadien, but he was awfully polite. God bless our great country.

  • That Dick Fox is a dirt bag.I hope the real Shangs got a huge settlement in court from him.Glad Mary's recording again.Love her new CD.Hope it hits big.

  • I went to see the "Ink Spots" few months back and they were ALL WHITE!!!

  • Nice one, genius.

  • The first group faked? how?

  • "The first group faked everything- the second group

    were open and told the truth. Tramps maybe, but not the liars and fakes like the first Shangri-Las."

    Thanks for the whacko rant. Are you on drugs or just an idiot?

  • iowa - If you're not Dick Fox, then you must simply be a dick.

  • I hear Dick Fox is now managing Samantha Fox. I think bobdyas is actually Dick Fox.

  • I hate people who try to steal from the legacy of the original artists! Ain't nothing like the real thing, and the originals are always the best!

  • this asshole's name is "dick?" how beautiful is that?

  • Granted, this clip is from the 80's. So, I'll make the following comment retroactive. I hope this sh*t talking scumbag guy can't even find a job sweeping up after circus elephants.

  • the guy is dirt

  • I hate it that there is a fake Shangri-Las group.

  • FANS are no fools...........LOOK WHAT HAPPEN TO DIANA ROSS and her fake SUPREMES in 2000 reunion? RTL tour? hmmmm!!

  • I totally remember that! Someone pulls the plug eventually and karma prevails.