Fuck Fox "News" 6: O'Reilly & Stein Jerk Each Other Off

[ricksauce100]

t, we must teach tolerance and acceptance all of which if you look in most holy books are the main and most important tasks, but god to the fox news and their supporters is just another way to con good hearted (but lets be honest anyone who truly believes and enjoys the shit they say simple mined people) into voting and therefore propelling more bullshit and greed.

[F12Y14N25]

lol if it was as simple as "god did it" I would have aced high-school Biology, i got a B instead

[Gushe002]

Man, this gave me such a good laugh, and it was so true at the same time...subscribed!

[drummerkid1993]

@SUPPORTGOODMUSIC1003 A fossilized hunk of shit.

[zerochi0]

@drummerkid1993 could not have said it better myself

[Lordgaraj]

Evolution has zero to do with god and ultimate origins. Shitty politics drives the entire creationist movement.

[CranberryDecepti0n]

Bill O'Reilly eats my brain and makes babies cry :'( Unfortunately, I was raised by a man who takes Fox News as Gospel and I still hear this shit regurgitated.

[CriticalThought09]

Why they separated church + state: read your history. Temporal power leads to corruption within any church. Constantines donation is a prime example. The papacy was so rotten you could buy your way to the postion of pope.

[CriticalThought09]

"darwinism"? What the hell even is that? He had one major theory, that totally changed biology, but has nothing to do with creation. Its not so much an ism as a universally accepted theory.

[Lordgaraj]

@CriticalThought09 "Darwinism" is a slur. Much like "Big bang theory." The implication is that since the strongest survive, the strong should eliminate the weak. Fundie Christians are taught to fear evolution, because they are told it leads to genocide.

[UnderlordZ]

Ben Stein's movie has an entirely appropriate title; just not for the reason he thinks.

[C0nstellati0ns]

there's no such thing as "Darwinism".. just as there is no such thing as "Newtonism" or "Einsteinism".. What you mean is "Theory of Evolution", just like "Theory of Gravity".. But i guess its too much to ask that FOX would know this..

[keithpetro]

@C0nstellati0ns Newtonian Physics are considered just that but you are correct, as it is not one man's theory, it is the scientific communities theory of evolution, at this point it is a changing model.

[TheFightingRebel]

This video is great...funny...but really sad...dumbasses...keep it up :)

[zero705]

lmao "god did it, okay done."

[popebiscuit666]

i get what youre doing and fox news is full of hypocrisy and lies.

if you havent seen outfoxed by robert greenberg i believe it was its worth spending the hour and fifteen on.

[HellsCowBoy666]

Still one of your best

[googlejoint]

Great point about persecution at the beginning. There's a lot of hypocrisy going on somewhere...

[mickeypopa]

What scientists around the USA and Europe need to do is this:

round up all the leading scientists from all fields of science, get them in a forum or a public rally somewhere, and publicly MOCK AND RIDICULE THESE CREATIONIST IDIOTS!

To sell t-shirts, coffee mugs, and all sorts of shit with these idiots painted on it.

Maybe THEN they will get the hint and shut their fucking traps.

Either educate yourself on science or SHUT THE FUCK UUUUUP!!

[mickeypopa]

I don't believe how fucking retarded idiots like these 2 - a talk show host and a creationist dumb fuck can even be allowed to talk about science they don't have A SINGLE CLUE about!! What the fuck???

They want to meddle in scientific process and peer review process and to actually lecture educated professionals in their respective fields on how to do their work?!

Un-fucking-believable....the level of idiocy from these 2 morons is sky high.

[ProtestSpp]

I think Ben Steins point is that the Atheists have not produced a theory that explains the complexity of the cell and is suggesting that Darwins theory does not explain the complexity of the cell and that is something that I have not thought of before...

[ProtestSpp]

@ProtestSpp Also, Newton practiced in Alchemy and he only believed in God because if he didn't he would have been thrown in the dungeon or something like that.

[F12Y14N25]

@ProtestSpp that is because the complexity of the cell is a much more recent discovery, look at follow-ups and the only thing not covered in evolutionary theory is HOW? that isn't covered in all theories.

[EmpiricalAlpha]

These people are terrified of "We don't know" because if we don't know we take away the element of control. See with "God did it" when shit happens they can go "oh lets prey to god to fix this" or "Lets sacrifice something" or w/e and feel they have done something to fix the situation.

If there is no god but we dont yet know how everything works then we have to admin we have no control over certain things.

[suzywao]

You made a brilliant point. If God made Adam out of dirt, who is to say he didn't do it through lightning? If in Genesis it was written that God made lightning strike down upon the Earth into a mud puddle or pile of dirt to form Adam, I'm sure that Stein would believe it wholeheartedly.

[atchisrj1]

Isn't it funny that Stein calls evolution a brilliant theory then say it's outdated and wrong? Gravity is a much older theory so I guess Stein would have a problem with that too.

[dbikeguy]

someone just needs to go to ben stein or o reilly and ask them "how was this created" they'll say god then say "give me proof right here and now"

[coolforskool230]

You sure like to talk shit about people don't you?

[BLUEC0RE]

Dissa-fuckin'-peer

beautiful!

New subscriber

[reddyneddy]

Haha, I wish they had taught me that 1+1=3. Knowing maths has ruined my life and turned me away from jesus :(

[Mikialat]

darwin and newton HAD to work within the framework of there being a god because when they practiced science it was MANDATED by the state

[YaoiHuntressEarth]

I find it ironic that a Jewish man like Stein wants advocate a mainly fundamentalist Christian cause let alone heavily side with them. Especially since fundamentalist Christians have had a history of thinking of his kind as Christ-killers and other unkind things (especially the ones that I've met) unless they want something (supporting Israel to get their rapture).

[illumastorm9Version2]

I'm Christian but I don't agree with the right wing Fox News bullshit, so please don't group us all together.

[BeekersSqueakers]

You want creationism taught in school? Fine, just find some evidence for it and submit it for peer review. The only problem with that is creationists don't want to fuck with that because they know their beliefs won't pass in the scientific community. Instead they want to try and take the back door through public relations and have their views immediately injected into schools where they can indoctrinate the youth of america. Want your kid taught bias bullshit? That's what private school is for.

[BeekersSqueakers]

Darwinism isn't even a correct term. We don't call people Newtonists or Einsteinists or Jesusists.

3:54 If rights come from God and God hates blasphemers, thus hating free speech, then we shouldn't have freedom of speech.

8:58 Einstein and Darwin were more agnostic than anything.

[Sagesparten007]

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO The title made me laugh my ass off i need to see this!!!!!!

[ContinuumXT]

The funny thing is, that because of the education received and the implications of science, the gaps are getting smaller for the creationists and the followers of holy books.

That's why you see them running around, trying to get hold of impressionable minds. Trying to get into the minds of the children.

Because they know, they've been proven wrong... but they just don't wanna know.

Well you cant hide for reality for ever.

[LtZerge]

That's often why (I think it was Dawkins who first said it) People describe the arguments stein and co make as "God of the Gaps"

[ContinuumXT]

It's a good term. That's what you get if you define god as trancendental. You can never reach or measure him. There will always be other physical reasons for events.

[Wanglydangly]

What these pushers of intelligent design don't understand is that even if evolution was proven incorrect tomorrow (which is not going to happen) it wouldn't validate their belief.

[LtZerge]

hehe.

"

If 2+2=/=5

then 2+2=56 !

Eureka!

"

[revelationhorsemen]

Get a job and education.

[C0ct0pusPrime]

get a clue, and then buy an argument.

[dizzi12345]

You are awesome.

[xn117]

@C0ct0pusPrime LOL!!

[mornmeril]

Oooh, ooh! I got an idea! Next time someone gets killed in a terrible trafic accident instead of persuing the one who caused it let's say "God has summoned one more sole to Him" and jsut forget it happened! BRILLIANT!

[mornmeril]

Damnit man! I'm suppose to to go see my folks tomorrow and I'm sitting here watching video after video. Good damn job!

No seriously, love your vids, kudos! Keep preaching our side of the picture.

[wonslung]

Blind faith:

They got a visine for that.

[MrShadow42]

Of course scientists get fired for using God to explain things! Their job is to try to explain things without God, otherwise science would be easy as hell.

[338dmac]

Ben Stein isn't even a fucking scientists; he's an economist and scientific illiterate who celebrates and promotes ignorance in order to make his bullshit ideas seem coherent. Please don't fall for this people...

[ParadoX505]

who cares how it began, the beggining of human life was probably boring, and along the lines of evolution

[amsp79]

1+1=3 pretty much sums it up, well done.

[moman701]

great video

[civwarfan]

So why hasn't a sniper taken BillO out yet again?

[338dmac]

Because I don't have a rifle yet. I was thinking an M91/30 with a PU sight, but I'm open to suggestions :)

Seriously though, jk, that would just martyrize him anyway. It's a war of INFORMATION, not bullets. At least not right now, knock on wood.

[EasyWhenYourEvil]

faith is fine.You dont have to believe in anything(like god) to have faith.Like saying good luck or having a lucky charm.Science is evidence and i think it has proven to be far more accurate and effective than religion has,but just an opinion.

[zeratul1987]

Stein is complaining that evolution doesn't explain abiogenesis...*sigh*

THEY ARE TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS! READ A FUCKING BOOK THAT IS LESS THAN 2000 YEARS OLD!

Apologies in advance for the caps lock.

[triestekankerhoer]

HALLELUJAH!!!

[triestekankerhoer]

Hail to you! Need more people like you, rational thinking must prevail.

[martysaysso]

Great vid. 5 Stars.

[ACanadianInNorway]

I wish Christians would talk about the various versions of the Bible are efforts to fill in the gaps of the original Bible.

Eat that O'Reilly and Stein, you morons!!

[themanwithsauce]

At about 2 minutes when stein goes about the "gaps" in darwinism, please notice the gap of time between when the bible was written and ALL SCIENCE AND MATHEMATICS.. If you look at all the mathematics and science principals we use and teach today, they were all discovered and developed in roughly the past 500 years. The scriptures were completed...what about 1800 years ago?

The bible isn't science. You may believe in its message if you so choose but its message is not science.

[coolintruddle]

To be fair,thee ancients had a good grasp of mathematics.Geometry being a promenent example.That's what I find so funny.The religious wouldn't have been able to build their massive temples otherwise.

[valvatica]

stein confuses free speech with the scientific method. there's no point in filling "goddidit" into the gaps because unknowns only make science move forward, not stop.

[bxs0099]

its just like the old saying goes...

Too many "christians", Sadly, too few lions.

[kittygirl792]

5:49 - rly?. maybe it's not like this all across the US b/c my super politicly correct science teacher probably told us a million times that "she's certanly not telling us what to believe" when teaching evolution. she said micro evolution has been proven, but nobody has ever seen macro evolution so we could believe whatever we wanted about it...which pissed me off b/c NOBODY in their right mind would ever give that politicly correct speach to students about ANY OTHER THEORY!

[NoAntecessor]

Also, she was implying that the evidence (which is endless) for macro evolution isn't there. For one thing, fossils are ALWAYS found in the predicted stratum. Mammals are never found in the precambrian. Monkey fossils are never with dinosaurs, etc. If god just created everything at once, the fossil record would be completely different. The fact that their are teachers out there so profoundly ignorant drives me mad :(

[5avan10]

I wonder how these guys would feel if I insisted that they let me go into their synagogues and churches to teach scientific Darwinian evolution. Then they would probably be all in favor of separation of church and state.

[adamsinclair007]

Notice just how galactically ignorant and ironic Ben Stein is. He says that evolution was a brilliant theory back in the age of imperialism in the 19th century. Nice jab, moron. I guess we could replace it with a "brilliant theory from the Bronze Age." And then he goes on to cite examples against evolution THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EVOLUTION! Jaw dropping dim-wittedness!

[Yellaqq]

Some of my teachers wouldn't teach Darwin's theory of evolution. And I went to a public school. hahaha.

[BusterWolf23]

Why are people like these fine gentlemen allowed to saunter the streets?

[LtHavoc1983]

What the hell......Darwins Evolution theroy is not about where the life comes from, but how its evovled! Those guys have no fucking idea what they are talking about.

Again, Evolution is about the evolution of life, not how it came to be. If you want to know about how life came to be, look at Abiogenesis, because thats about where life comes from.

Hurm...

[TheDarkKnight987]

Everyone that Expelled claimed got fired didn't actually get fired. They lied.

[schlaflys]

Ok, about 9 min in Ben Stein says that Einstein, Newton, and Darwin all "worked within the framework of believing there was a god" Einstein was agnostic and Newton, at least according to the historian Stephen D. Snobelen was a heritic. The only one out of the three that was a devout man of faith was Newton, and that didn't stop him from putting forth his theory.

Seriosly, WTF

[warpedwiselegoman]

HOLY SHIT BEN STEIN!!!!!!

[thoraxe39]

religion deserves to be in mythology class, its all just creation myths and little stories about morality at the time.

[satbir15]

I dunno if im wrong, cause im not like other people who stick too one theorie, but what if god acually made creatures, but its also evalution. Maybe god is just a king on another planet who wants to be praised lol

[CBUEngineer]

All of the expelled people he was talking about were bullshit anyways. They said this creationist stuff then at some time lost their job or changed job or their temp job expired.

[blink1821985]

einstein did not work within the framework of believing there was a god, he just used god as a metaphor meaning the universe or whatever

"I do not believe in the God of theology who rewards good and punishes evil."

"I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."

two quotes by einstein!

[RocMegamanX]

He also said that "science without religion is lame, while religion without science is dumb".

To me, this means we need a balance between religion AND science. It also means that logic and emotion should be balanced.

[blink1821985]

he actually said "while religion without science is blind" but that's not really important:)

well yeah sure there can be a balance but between logic and emotion but not between religion and science! they contradict each other. and even with logic and emotion: that's not what science is about. science is about pure logic and nothing else. no gods no unicorns no flying elephants or...or...well i think you get what i'm trying to say:)

[RocMegamanX]

Some people want religion for emotional comfort. And if those people HAD no religion or spiritual comfort, they might not know who to turn to, so they might(keyword: MIGHT) become depressed and kill themselves, because they feel alone. Because, let me tell you, sometimes we humans can be downright jerk

[RocMegamanX]

jerks.* Sorry.

[blink1821985]

yeah i share your view on that point. what i'm saying that that's not what science is about. and even though einstein said that about religion i think he's pretty clear about his beliefs in a god with the 2 quotes i posted. he just didn't belive in a god. period.

[RocMegamanX]

I guess I just worry about a completely religion-free world, because I read Brave New World, where this society was Atheist, worshiped Henry Ford, and laughed at religious acts. That society also drugs its citizens and allows them to have free sex, with the condition of contraceptive methods being used. They exile those who act "unorthodox". And--here's the best part--everyone is CLONED, not born. In fact, "born" and "mother" are curse words there.

[blink1821985]

yeah well don't worry a religion-free world will never exist...at not in our lifetime:)

[KillerKabel]

But it should become an extreme minority. Unless one of them are proven right.

[blink1821985]

well of course but as soon as that happens there is no way people could possibly believe anything else

[KillerKabel]

I could see Bildo still rooting for his religion.

Nothing will change his mind. Facts already failed.

[blink1821985]

yeah of course. but stuff like that always takes time. once we're rid of idiots like billo, slowly less and less people will believe in this bullshit and eventually it will disappear

[Ebrainiac1]

Bildo? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! hoo. That's a good one.

[falotnek]

Religion and science must always be separated.

Religion is faith based, science is evidence based. The two do not go together

[Link4587452]

Persecuted? Bullshit, Christians have never had it any better.

[RockOfMud]

Lol, the guy's have no idea what evolution is

[Link4587452]

1+1=3 could more easily be proved than there being a god.

[Link4587452]

Fuck Ben Stain.

[jreamer1]

I subscribed on the strength of this video. Man, you guys should organize and start flooding their sponsors with PROTEST! I'm tellin you, they'd smarten up quick once they lost a few advertising dollars. Atheists picking on Christians, are they? Is that why Bush Sr. wanted atheists deprived of citizenship? Glad to know not all fox viewers are simpletons. Cheers from Canada.

[peepnklown]

"Yes, the long war on Christianity. I pray that one day we may live in

an America where Christians can worship freely! In broad daylight!

Openly wearing the symbols of their religion. perhaps around their

necks? And maybe — dare I dream it? — maybe one day there can

be an openly Christian President. Or, perhaps, 43 of them.

Consecutively." — Jon Stewart

[peepnklown]

Id like to be on OReilly show with Ben Stein.

Id ask them, define evolution.

Youll see them shudder and personally attack me, then take me off air.

They have no idea what evolution is.

[cwants]

Ben Stein looks down like he has a telepromter, its all prepared!

[Noelotropolis]

0:09 Yeah, because a theory that explains everything explains nothing.

[nathanforst1]

You, sir, are a genius among men! Keep up the great work!

[C0ct0pusPrime]

are you retarded? just want to make sure before i make fun of you...it's not right to pick on retards...

[newyorkeastside]

don't cry cocktoemom........hey why are you asking people on youtube if they are retarded are you posting your videos from a nervous hospital? no wonder why you were a superman costume on your webpage hahhahhahhahaa

[C0ct0pusPrime]

"no wonder why you were a superman costume on your webpage hahhahhahhahaa"

it's "wear", not "were", idiot.

enjoy thinking you are intelligent for as long as you can...once you figure out you're an idiot, the gig's over...

[newyorkeastside]

your right it is over.......stop crying and man up!

[C0ct0pusPrime]

"YOU'RE right, it is over."

you are a fucking tool.

buh bye now.

[Sqirril]

Hey when it says "reuploaded" was your other account banned?

Since the view count/dates seam off

[Jfrisella]

Awesome videos. I love how they use that "science hasn't figured out how it all started" as reasoning for teaching creationism. Like scientist are slacking on the job. Thank god for creationist who can come around and slap their "God Did It" stickers everything. Its not science, so shouldn't be taught as such.

[klixxz]

I remember when ben stein was cool. Remember the cleareyes commercials and "Win Ben Stein's Money"? Ben Stein does the best straight in comedy movies, then he had to go and become a complete tool to the creationist agenda. Creationism in schools isn't about science and it isn't even about religion; it's about supremacy.

[RocMegamanX]

Supremacy...why does that word remind me of white-hooded costumes and flaming crosses?

[klixxz]

That word does that for most people. It brings either that or images of neo-nazis. The whole "keep God in the schools and government", the pushing for and blocking of legislation based on what goes with their myopic view of their belief system, putting "god as supreme" in this country, It's supremacy. They say that they want to lift God high, but it amounts to lifting themselves. A sense of "moral superiority" makes them feel they have the right and that they are "supreme" for their "faith".

[RocMegamanX]

Oh, and that reminds me of one of Coctopus's other Fox News rants where Bill "we're doing it live" O'Reilly talked with McCain about trying to maintain the "white Christian male power structure".

White Christian male power structure....also reminds you of supremacy, right? LOL XD

[klixxz]

The White Christian Male powerstructure is fucked up. That's all I have to say about that.

[RocMegamanX]

BTW, I kinda liked Ben Stein's Money, but I haven't even watched "Expelled". I heard it wasn't a good movie, so I ignored it.

Unfortunately, I did watch Zeitgeist. Oh...ooohh...why did I even get worked up by that movie?

America caused 9/11 and its own Great Depression? Are you kidding me? And then they mentioned injecting us with Microchips and branding us with bar codes, like it was coming out of the book of Revelation or something. Though that bar code thing does worry me.

[klixxz]

A bar code, while making an awesome tatoo, would be a totally stupid way to go about something like that. I saw zeitgeist too and almost got worked up. It was, ultimately, those silly hippies at the end talking about utopia, as well as their spin of the slang term "wage slave" into being actual slave. What the shit at that? Blatant manipulation. And the cherry picking of that one document. Also how they started tame and gradually got more conspiracy to sneak it up on you. Zeitgeist is a joke.

[newyorkeastside]

C0ct0pusPrime you are a sluggish intellectual........you believe anything any loser tells you, your an ignorant weakling

knuckledraggerprime you and obama came from white mothers......lmfao.

[C0ct0pusPrime]

how can someone that cares about the color of someone else's mother's skin call anyone else a 'sluggish intellectual'?

and you never even tried to have a conversation with me, so i doubt you know jack shit.

do us both a favor and don't reply.

[newyorkeastside]

YUK.....your gross......what's with the stupid cartoon picture of you on your page wearing a superman uniform? Stop taking perscription drugs and go to a nervous hospital and clean up. I can't stand drug addicts.

[melly2boo]

Thanks for your response. They did make a statement of apology to the Canadian public then stating we took it the wrong way. As true Canadians we are talking amongst ourselves with apology that maybe we were too sensitive? I think not although the insult was given at a very sensitive time. We just had the bodies of 4 soldiers return home.

I myself do not know how we could have taken that the wrong way, but I am glad there are people like yourself who do appreciate your neibours to the North. M

[C0ct0pusPrime]

think of it this way: if canada had dissed america's miltary for pulling out of iraq, would americans have flipped out? the answer is yes.

i don't blame you guys. it's networks like fox that give america (and americans) a bad name.

c0c

[melly2boo]

Thank you so much for being on here. I would msg you, but don't really know how. You are a very well read person. Just

out of curiosity as of late fox news has bashed canadian troops. Are you pro canada? what are your thougts?

Thanks,

Mel

[C0ct0pusPrime]

I put out a video about that, but i didn't do any commentary. i think it's really stupid for any news organization to flat out mock out neighbors, especially if they are an ally. i think canada is a great place with great people, so i don't understand why these fox anchors feel they have the right to mock them for any reason, much less the reasons they provide.

cheers :)

[ubergossen]

Also, most/all of the scientists weren't "expelled" for saying god did it. They were expelled for doing illegal things such as trying to bypass the peer reviewing system in order to get their shitty intelligent design articles published in real science journals.

[ubergossen]

Glad you cut in every now and again or else I would have possibly broken my own computer with my fist.

[molily74]

This is how they work God is in the gaps, That is until science fills the gaps then they Bitch, bitch, bitch!!!

[OpinionatedBriton]

Thunderfoot really promotes some awesome youtube channels this guys totally awesome like amazing atheist no bullshit. I fucking hate Bill O Reilly hes a fucking hypocritical prejudiced fuckwit. Oh and he thinks hes a tough guy nothing would please me more than kicking his ass.

[PissedOffAtheist]

Every time Stein calls Evolution "Darwinism," it makes every deceased, credible scientist turn over in their grave. What a biased fucktard.

[exo0O]

''Bla...Darwin was exellent...bla bla...evolution is awesome...bla bla...still it sucks!''

Sounds like:

''Black people are awesome...bla bla...some of my best friends...bla bla...still niggers aren't real people!''

Just admit to be full of shit and don't try to kiss our ass when you really just want to trash evolution and say ''god diddid!'', Stein you fuckin' slime ball!

[ubergossen]

Ahahaahah

FUCK ben stein. I'm glad his shitty movie didn't get theatrical distribution in Canada.

[ogjimkenobi]

O'reilly really seems to enjoy jerking other dudes off.

[xBuscopanx]

"such a weak theory"

??? .....muahahahahahahaha!!!

what a retard.

[ParadoX505]

just to put somethings straight that ben stein can't or won't understand

the is no such thing as "Darwinism"

Evolution explains the diversity of life, not its origion

Intelligent design is creationism in a cheap disguise

all the things ive listed i learned in a high school biology course, and ben stein made a movie about evolution and intelligent design and didn't get any of this, creationist moron

Shut the FUCK up about things you don't understand or want to even give a chance to Fox News

[SCARREDMIND]

1+1=3

true in programming

when 1 represents a value greater then a single instance of one can represent.

but even that can be testen & verified, unlike faux news claims

[KarinMikazuki]

Please, dont call Abiogenesis + Evolution for darwinism.. it makes my brain bleed

[FallenAngel0fDoom]

Creationists, imo, are the ones destroying their religion faster than any atheistic logic. The only way creationists can sustain their beliefs is by inbreeding.

[ANewRevolution]

the year before I took biology I took a history class that spent a semester going over world religions.

Suck it Bill you dumb shit.

[sureup]

I'm going to celebrate when ben stein fucking dies.

btw I reccomend the series "Expelled Debunk - Flunked" here on youtube to those who want to hear the truth behind all the lies in ben steins propaganda piece of shit movie.

[Elitistb616]

O'Reilly - "You haven't figured it out yet! [in relation to some things about biology]"

And so we are supposed to stop trying? Yeah, that fucking solves EVERYTHING. Stop using your computers, O'Reilly, shut down your cameras. There are things about both of those they don't understand, so the creators of those machines should have just given up and let God make the transistors.

[musicgeniusno1]

They like the term persecution,it's always used to take the focus off ID. Thanks for posting again :)

[midas41]

Creationists are stupid beyond belief.