This musical idea of "fracturing the words into syllables", definitely came from Nono. So this piece is NOT innovative at all. Still, ain't half-bad... the humor especially...
@Bagas its a dominant organizational factor by this time and has been around for quite a while. It is like saying multiphonics are suppose to be innovational and then pointing out the earliest people who have tried it. Not useful or educational.
i'm sorry. this is seriously the dumbest thing i've ever heard. go ahead and bash me for saying this, but it seriously is. i know his intention wasn't serious at all. i'm totally aware of it. but i still find this mind numbingly stupid.
@emperorIng360 Don't go dissin' Stockhausen! Babbitt is all right. This does sound like he's just copying the rest of modern music and trying to (and doing a very good job of being) funny.
Anyways, this isn't @ anyone who posted in the comments, but what's up with the tags? Trying to get this popular? It's not doing a very good job...
@Tykell The first time i listened to Ligeti I seriously thought someone was going to kill me with a knife. It's absolutely terrifying. The amount of expression he creates is unbelievable. And the mourning heard in his music is astounding.
@JRR951 Its in the scene where David Bowman arrives in the alien "zoo" toward the end of the film. Only part of it is heard and it is somewhat distorted but its there.
It's interesting to compare this with Artikulation - one for voice, the other electronic, but the effect is not that different :-) But I think I find Artikulation even more humorous. Though I've never SEEN Aventures - I'm sure humour can be added liberally by some non-shy singers.
I was fortunate enough to see Aventures and the Nouvelles Adventures performed by members of the L.A. Philharmoic at the Walt Disney Concert Hall. It is one of the most memorable experiences of my life.
No, I guess I was naive. Have to search the libraries. I found a wonderful score for Atmospheres in our Hennepin County, MN library system, so I'm sure they are out there, if one searches enough! Thanks.
I've got one. It's astonishingly difficult rhythmically. I was considering a staged version, but the counting is way too fierce I think. Perhaps better would be live musicians with dancers. The pitfall would be to start making it "significant". No need for the audience to know how hard you're working.
@musicalidea I thought that as well! I think lots of parts are parodies of other pieces. I could swear I hear parts of gesang der jung in this, but I could be wrong
@saladshootavvv There was so me article I read a long time ago when I was a music student in which I recall Ligeti as having revealed that he did indeed parody his Requiem and a few other pieces in this piece. I think this sharp, comical jutting cartoonish effect bears resemblance to Kurtag and continues into the 1980s with Ligeti.
There's a great monograph on this piece that attempts to analyze the elements and stemming from a collection of sounds and gestures associated with 5 particular affects - excitement, embarrassment, disgust, etc. - and their subcombinations. I forget the author of course. It comes with a similarly startling analysis of Ludoslawski's Trois Poemes d'Henri Michaux.
Where is the finale!?!?!?!?!?!?!???
vassiliscompo 1 week ago
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If Jim Carrey was a 20th Century composer, he would have been Ligeti.
mrpankau 2 weeks ago
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mrpankau 2 weeks ago
In my nightmares this is what hell sounds like.
Encom7 3 weeks ago
A man like Ligeti should not exist, but he does. This composition is just so DAMN amusing and weird.
eddievhfan1984 2 months ago
Wat?
CradleInTheCrater 6 months ago
Some parts of it remind me of Bartok, i do like Bartok but i find ligeti way off my type of music :/
Scarbogn 7 months ago
@Scarbogn early Ligeti often sounds like late Bartok.
KelleyLSheehan 2 months ago
This face... I... But... Argh, i can't
PietkaMS 8 months ago
This musical idea of "fracturing the words into syllables", definitely came from Nono. So this piece is NOT innovative at all. Still, ain't half-bad... the humor especially...
Bagas 9 months ago
@Bagas its a dominant organizational factor by this time and has been around for quite a while. It is like saying multiphonics are suppose to be innovational and then pointing out the earliest people who have tried it. Not useful or educational.
KelleyLSheehan 2 months ago
ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC!!!
THE BLOODY BEETROOTS SUCKS LIGETI COCK AT BREAKFAST!!!!
YEOOOOO
semprealtopOK 9 months ago
Ligeti is (was) amazing! I even saw him give a lecture in London once, many moons ago. It may be weird, it may be whacky, but it is still so moving!
Magyar zsidó, Erdélyből, úgy tudom??
Éljen az avant-garde!
athb4hu 11 months ago
play this song in public area loudly ... it would be interest how people react because of this
iKrautsalat 11 months ago
This is kinda frightening and kinda funny at the same time and sounds vaguely familiar but I can't place it.
JerkFaceVocals 11 months ago
Needs more banjo.
TaterGumfries 1 year ago 2
i'm sorry. this is seriously the dumbest thing i've ever heard. go ahead and bash me for saying this, but it seriously is. i know his intention wasn't serious at all. i'm totally aware of it. but i still find this mind numbingly stupid.
MikeFreakinByrne 1 year ago
@MikeFreakinByrne its the music to 2001, i think he meant it
RandyLahey911 10 months ago
ligeti must have been drunk when he had that idea of "aventures"......
bestEVAandEVA 1 year ago
@bestEVAandEVA somebody hears new music for the first time?
ctimur 7 months ago
@emperorIng360 Don't go dissin' Stockhausen! Babbitt is all right. This does sound like he's just copying the rest of modern music and trying to (and doing a very good job of being) funny.
Anyways, this isn't @ anyone who posted in the comments, but what's up with the tags? Trying to get this popular? It's not doing a very good job...
AyumuVanguard 1 year ago
is this terrifying or funny?
apollomwj 1 year ago
this is disturbing
0180917 1 year ago
This is terrifying.
Tykell 1 year ago
@Tykell The first time i listened to Ligeti I seriously thought someone was going to kill me with a knife. It's absolutely terrifying. The amount of expression he creates is unbelievable. And the mourning heard in his music is astounding.
fuzzyfeet 1 year ago 5
for some reason this doesnt seem funny to me in any way just absolutely incredible
AMAZINGbabies 1 year ago
wtf?
thoughtsthroughsound 1 year ago
I have another recording of this that came with the 2001 A Space Odyssey soundtrack. This piece always puts comical imagery in my head.
enemyofbohemia 1 year ago
@enemyofbohemia Was this composition in the film? I don't remember hearing it, yet I would think something as unique as this would stand out to me
JRR951 1 year ago
@JRR951 Its in the scene where David Bowman arrives in the alien "zoo" toward the end of the film. Only part of it is heard and it is somewhat distorted but its there.
enemyofbohemia 1 year ago
It's interesting to compare this with Artikulation - one for voice, the other electronic, but the effect is not that different :-) But I think I find Artikulation even more humorous. Though I've never SEEN Aventures - I'm sure humour can be added liberally by some non-shy singers.
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GreggaryPeccary 1 year ago 3
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That was amazing
muisic112 2 years ago
I was fortunate enough to see Aventures and the Nouvelles Adventures performed by members of the L.A. Philharmoic at the Walt Disney Concert Hall. It is one of the most memorable experiences of my life.
BachRocks314 2 years ago
great! amazing!
zeevici 2 years ago
Is this performed from a score? Or did the composer just meet with the performers at every rehearsal and describe what he wanted?
jschnei3 2 years ago
Nope, it's from a score.
sousukesagaraJKD 2 years ago
A VERY precise one, in fact
GreggaryPeccary 2 years ago 2
At measure 10 there's a fantastic effect: the horn must play a waning B singing into the instrument, causing some sort of tremolo :)
sousukesagaraJKD 2 years ago
Holy cow. Somebody should make a video showing the score, synchronized to the music.
jschnei3 2 years ago 4
@jschnei3 its a complete score of 42 pages with 29 pages extra of explanation:)
lukasnickel 2 weeks ago
hhhhhhh c est surement un fou à part lux aeterna c est nul
taoufiks 2 years ago
This song makes me cry as well... because it's so amazing
ulfpronz 2 years ago
This song makes me laugh as well.
It's good that this is the intention.
Whereas the stuff similar to this made by say, Babbit or Stockhausen just is depressingly bad to me.
emperorIng360 2 years ago
Yeah, I'm not a massive fan of those two, either.
GreggaryPeccary 2 years ago
Babbit, while quite dry, is a better craftsman than Stockhausen.
musicalidea 2 years ago
Perhaps it's the lack of a ginormous ego.
emperorIng360 2 years ago
@emperorIng360 I can't speak for Babbitt, but concerning Stockhausen, you find works like Stimmung, Carré, Momente, and Mikrophonie II bad?
MusicaRicercata 1 year ago
@MusicaRicercata
I suppose I should have chosen better words... a year ago.
I don't like Stockhausen all that much outside of a few works (like Kreuzspiel). I don't like Microphonie II, either.
Instead of "depressingly bad" I should say "overly dissonant, dry, and displeasing to my ears." Which I'm sure you disagree with, ha.
Babbit I just can't stand. I've yet to hear a song of his I like, and I keep on listening to prove me wrong.
emperorIng360 1 year ago
As a baritone, I always thought this would be a fun piece to sing! Where can I find a score online for free?
heysailer 2 years ago
I don't know. You're assuming there is a free score online...
GreggaryPeccary 2 years ago
No, I guess I was naive. Have to search the libraries. I found a wonderful score for Atmospheres in our Hennepin County, MN library system, so I'm sure they are out there, if one searches enough! Thanks.
heysailer 2 years ago
I've got one. It's astonishingly difficult rhythmically. I was considering a staged version, but the counting is way too fierce I think. Perhaps better would be live musicians with dancers. The pitfall would be to start making it "significant". No need for the audience to know how hard you're working.
docrhythm2 2 years ago
7:56 - 8:15 is an obvious self-parody of the Requiem...lol.
musicalidea 3 years ago 2
LOL. Great stuff.
Philosophaster 2 years ago
@musicalidea I thought that as well! I think lots of parts are parodies of other pieces. I could swear I hear parts of gesang der jung in this, but I could be wrong
saladshootavvv 1 year ago
@saladshootavvv There was so me article I read a long time ago when I was a music student in which I recall Ligeti as having revealed that he did indeed parody his Requiem and a few other pieces in this piece. I think this sharp, comical jutting cartoonish effect bears resemblance to Kurtag and continues into the 1980s with Ligeti.
musicalidea 1 year ago
There's a great monograph on this piece that attempts to analyze the elements and stemming from a collection of sounds and gestures associated with 5 particular affects - excitement, embarrassment, disgust, etc. - and their subcombinations. I forget the author of course. It comes with a similarly startling analysis of Ludoslawski's Trois Poemes d'Henri Michaux.
musicalidea 3 years ago
Fantastic performance. Extremely demanding repertoire. The score is rather precise, in fact.
musicalidea 3 years ago
I'm just not down for 20thc stuff like this. I just can't enjoy it unless it's overture
LelandPD 3 years ago
What a strange piece!
knucmo 3 years ago