The Shooting - Finland

[TimBrown59]

In a lot of these cases, anti depressants often feature somewhere in there.

[cursetogod]

FINLAND IS FIRST AND BIGEST TERORIST SHOOTERS IN ALL SCANDINAVIAN CONTRY

[ChelseaBurnsOsiris]

@cursetogod Finland isn't Scandinavian idiot

[cursetogod]

95%of finnish MENS are terorist and sick racist shooter

i belive that very mach

[finboy818]

@cursetogod considering your account name im not very surprised what u just said, but finnish mens are not like that, they are really caring and loving but doesnt show hes feelings in public, but still has feelings...

[magemaatikko]

So youngsters there are no problems in Fnland so keep killing, it is just a GAME. IT's not real, real life is joke. Hear these professionals who posted in this channel. Youngster just gone mad!! Nothing so important!

[magemaatikko]

Finnish schoolsystem is a big fail!!The unemplyoment rate is so high it makes no sense to get educated cuz you wont get job at all if you had rocket scientist paper. Count all these little things together and it is obvious something this terrific could happen.Young people are just so frustfrated to the weak governement so this is the only possible way they can speak seriously!

[garad123456]

terrific = loistavaa. :D

sekotit varmaan terribleen?

Ja eikä tällä oo mitään tekemistä minkään työttömyyden kanssa, pässi. Koulukiusaamista, joka johtuu yhteisön piilevästä masennuksesta, jonka juuret ovat sodissa. Mahdollisesti jo sisällissodassa.

[magemaatikko]

Terrific tarkoittaa myös hirvittävä, kammottava joten mee apina mummolaan! Nuorisolla on paha oltava koska valtio kusee niin pahasti!!

[Mikey84]

Terrific tarkoittaa "hieno, upea". Hirvittävä on "terrible".

[magemaatikko]

Just katoin sanakirjasta terrific= 1.valtava, suunnaton 2.mahtava, loistava 3.hirvittävä, kammottava! Kumpi on nyt oikeessa apina?!

[SCARYPUPPETIRC]

aww crish ♥ (at 3:45) i dont remember anything what happend that day, or, i DO remember that info what came out in my own school, its for 200 meters from soppis. (that deathschool) and how me and my frend panicd, and how two girls just complained about their hunger and wanted to go eat. i was nearly death of worry about my littlebrother, he was 2 years old, and he was in daycare next of that school...

[phyle]

This is how some get their story told...sucks

[AF2Fight2]

Oh god forbid we find an answer to why this happens ! No its easier to blame it on the parents, Not gun control or bullying in school. What is wrong with the media ? What do all school shooting cases have in common ? 1. The killers are victim of bullying and most commonly carrying out the attack for revenge (columbine a prime example) and 2. Easy access to guns.

[LamboK28992]

@AF2Fight2 guns are not the problem. banning inanimate objects solves nothing. if you ban guns, they will use knives. if you ban knives they will use crowbars and baseball bats. it goes on and on and on...

you need to combat the social causes of the problems.

[marialuvsya]

Im so so glad to live in such a small town. No one would do this kinda thing here.

[Stizou777]

thats what people in Littleton Colorado thought, that their environment was safe, until Eric and Dylan started this whole chain reaciton

[Dollarbob]

you are so naive. one of the most gruesome serial killers, Ed gein, came from a town of 1000 people in Wisconsin. Murder can happen anywhere you smug hick.

[MerZuly]

WHAT is this conversation going on here? I'm just saying something stupid here but it really seems like what people think here is that something one person (or two, okay...) do can be explained by where they come from. What does the country have to do with the people in it? This could've happened anywhere so stop talking about how finland is bad because of this. And I remind you again, this is just my opinion and I don't know anything about anything at all.

[castrewq]

This is never happening in Oulu. If this happened at my school in Oulu, I would maybe move...

[FinnHawk]

that's odd cuz it shouldn't... it's not even related... The norse languages (Norwegian, Swedish, etc.) should sound more like Old English.

[WorldWarTwoSELLER]

FUCK casey bernall

[illus1]

I moved to Finland years ago and it is hard to believe that in such a beautiful and peaceful country these things can happen, but they do.

[Lami092290]

How in a country so perfect this stuff happen? I just can't get it in my mind...

[MokomaSusi]

Perfect country? it maybe looks like that. But in reality Finland is very rotten from inside.

[Lami092290]

Well as no one is perfect maybe any country is perfect too but... Finland is almost always in the first place in the lists of social development, education, till in some sports, so, if you make a comparation of Finland with another country you will find that your guys are better in a lot of things, and well, troubles... everybody has troubles, but not for that i'll dare to say : " Finland is very rotten from inside. " your words were very hard, look always the good side of this fckng life...

[magemaatikko]

@Lami092290 Iam not saying Finland is ruled by corrupted politicians, I just want to start a civilized discussion about the problems youth in Finland faces. I think finland is very nice country to live.Everything works here, people go to work at time. There is peace and security in Finland! I have job, it is great! I can now smile! The problem amongst youth people still haunts me, and I dont want more innocent ppl dying schools or anywhere! Peace!

[ALNUEIAS]

@magemaatikko Is a very hard point, in countries like this sometimes we don't see another stuff like for example how we were before... culture of developing is always the aim fact, those cases were just made by teens with mental troubles and perhaps both were known each other, probably I would like to say that this would never happen again

[magemaatikko]

@ALNUEIAS Thank you for your message! First we are here for Finlnand, Everything is normal in Finlandk. Winland sitävastoin nosti kauhean mellakan asukkaaasta! Joka uhkasi tappaa asukkaat kylässä!

[ALNUEIAS]

@magemaatikko se on todella tyhmä, koska kukaan ei voi syyttää, rakastan maatani ja ei voi kuvitella elämääni jossakin toisessa tämä arpi on puhdistettava

[Klippstar1]

There's no fucking future

[MrPotatoesLatkie]

The culprit is to blame. He likely had some selfish reason and, there was no justification for what he did. He deluded himself, felt sorry for himself, was narssisistic, etc.

[iorixs]

maybe there werent enough spiritual/social support workers who would be aware of the state of the collective mind. i guess the church would be such an instition. where people are in regular contact with their community and where emotional issues can be addressed and where concerns about social degeneration can be confronted. in canada a man cut a fellow travelers head of on a bus, i think the mental health department missed someting critical and that cut backs should not have been made there

[xxxracistwhiteboyxxx]

Hitler!!!!

[1happiness]

Well this happens in my life what a world to live in.

[highcola]

This is rediculous, I suppose some of you are trying to rationalize by blaming this on gun laws, religious groups, americans, whatever you choose. However, the reality is that sometimes people just go crazy and kill tons of people. It's happened since the dawn of time and it will continue too happen, no devolving gun control laws, social reform, or isolationism will stop it. In any case, this kid definantly didn't hit the highscore.

[smooocher]

Terrible injustice for the familys and people of Finland, I think this is a world wide problem.

[MrZtron]

These types of shootings will continue to increase. Law enforcement agencies cannot protect you from this. Whenever you go to school (no matter how much they raise the security) you're not safe. Why? -Prevention isn't being exalted (by the media) instead of the shooters that get the most kills. So tell me, will these types of tragedies become more innovative and common?

Yes! b/c the current techniques used to combat these tragedies is obsolete and the truth is ignored for greed's sake.

[tasma26]

i was on finland/sweden ferry cruise and a finish man was arrested for bringing a shotgun on board the boat.

perhaps finns missuse the availability of weapons? they have a reputation in sweden (true of not) for carrying knives and for liking alcohol and fights...

deepest sympathy's to the victims. this should never have happened. stronger gun laws will hopefully prevent things like this in the future...

[MokomaSusi]

"they have a reputation in sweden (true of not) for carrying knives and for liking alcohol and fights..."

This is true at most parts. Alcohol is very big problem in Finland, (i personally dont drink at all) and most people deny it. Most crimes are made when people are very drunk.

People who dont drink (like me) are seen as religious freaks or non-masculine girlyboys etc...you get the point?

[0ltsuboy]

True... True... But I dont think that alcohol is the bigest trouble

[nipa008]

the problem was that he hated the world and people and everything

[0ltsuboy]

Yea

[tasma26]

i was on finland/sweden ferry cruise and a finish man was arrested for bringing a shotgun on board the boat.

perhaps finns missuse the availability of weapons? they have a reputation in sweden (true of not) for carrying knives and for liking alcohol and fights...

deepest sympathy's to the victims. this should never have happene

[WLuico]

i thought this video was about sarah palin?

[csskid]

bet you it was all for the sake of allah too.

[a05bf5ff]

damn internet!

[TAHESER]

That should teach all of us not to pick on the nerds . . . . they either grow up and own the business we will work for OR they will kill us . . .(sarcasm)

[MondoBeno]

the US gun culture isn't to blame. He could always have used another method, like mass poisoning.

I think however, that these spree killers may be copying US killers. Newspapers (like the Chicago Sun-Times) are helping to prevent this by keeping school shootings off the front page.

[Ihiruye]

ahhh.. sure..,. internet it's the problem!!!

[shnizzlelillylex]

this has nothing to do with muslims or americans yet we're getting blamed...lawd...that's just showing plain hate...

[Pummi94]

In what part of the video did they blame us or muslims?

[shnizzlelillylex]

not the vid, i mean the comments pple put here..it's ridiculous!

[11DNA11]

It's true. Most ppl hate american's. Me included.

[DCussen]

Most Americans don't give a crap about people like you....me included.

[11DNA11]

well you see why we don't like americans? You people are ignorant, stupid and try to police the world.

[elchasai]

what does america have in any way anything whatsoever to do with this tragedy? these was perpetrated by finns in a finnish school against finnish students in finland. this is not an exclusively or in any way influened or created by americans. schools shootings have happened in colorado and in minnesota, two of the american states its true, but this has also happened elsewhere in the world, france, germany japan, korea and now finland. your xenophobia and blind hysteria is not helpful at all

[shnizzlelillylex]

i hate some, some are nice, some are bad. Their politics suck and their ignorance and narrow mindedness is suffocating. but as i said, some are nice and some are bad.

[deanyorks]

RIP to all those who suffered, and god bless their families at this difficult time

[deanyorks]

I've nothing against the average American citizen. However, I feel that American-Cultural-Imperialism is definitely a problem which is facing the world we live in. Some kids here in the UK are totally obsessed with crime, gangs, knives, guns, RAP music which has violent racist undertones, and it seems that the 'true' 'unique' indentities of all the European Countries is getting swamped-out by greed and capitalism

We need to take a long look at the effect the media has on our children

[SatanicCod]

I have some doubts about the whole "American-Cultural-Imperialism­" idea you seems to use as a catch-all blame for the state of the youth. I am living in a country where the United-States is barely two hours of drive away (Canada).

Over here, we don't have any of the teen violence you are describing, or at least, not at your level. Due to our geographical proximity, we should bear the worse of this "Cultural Imperialism" and yet, we don't.

I guess the US influence has nothing to do with it.

[deanyorks]

With regard to young people in Canada, I will have to take your word for it, as I have never been there. But I'm sure Canada still has a 'crime rate', in places like Toronto etc

Yes, you are correct, the US gets blamed far too much. But even if we had no crime here in Europe, I still feel the American Culture is being rammed down our kids throats.

[SatanicCod]

Of course, we got a crime rate. Denying it would be quite presumptuous of my part. We got crime and jails but we are not exposed to a crime wave due to our proximity to the United-States.

As far as I am concerned, there's a fringe element in every state. This element will latch itself to any cultural excuse to justify it's violence. On this angle, American Gangsta-Rap, "Class-Warfare", Racism or Islam are mere excuses to rationalize violence.

At the end of the day the individual is responsible.

[3435464656]

listen the problem is that they are a product of a corrupt, immoral, mindless society but the truth is never known.

[MrZtron]

I agree with you, 3435464656. The truth is ignored. I know this because I study these tragedies closely and whenever I contact new agencies, key figures in society and even government leaders like the president, I am ignored (because I speak the truth). The truth threatens the profit line of the mass media (which includes many branches)

[metamorphises]

i say blame the u.s. and its decadent western influence

[afterthesirens]

Yet you live here?

[KritikalDimensions]

do people have a choice over where they are born? and better yet, tell me just how easy and simple it is to get citizenship in another country.

[SatanicCod]

Amazingly, the most infamous serial shooter in the history of Canada cane from a middle-east household.

Looks like we can safely blame Islam and its decadent eastern influence on this one.

[zhou1992]

How ignorant of you. Islam has nothing to do with this.

[SatanicCod]

The father of Marc Lepine was an Algerian and a muslim.

If you feel free to blame the U.S. for a shooting spree in Finland, I will feel free to blame Islam for a shooting in Montreal.

[ournationsanswer]

good point

[zhou1992]

I don't blame the U.S... I blame the individual who commited the crime.

[Wrapped4]

I agree with you. The blame is always the US or Muslims. At no point were any of the two mention. The causes are hard to tell, but rather than religious or national, I's say, loneliness, stress, anger, etc.

This does not justify what he did, but it's stupid pointing fingers at others who had nothing to do with this

[headshotjoe]

Stop being so naive.

[SatanicCod]

I wish I could be back to my naive self and be able to blame entire countries far away for the actions of a single man.

I also wish I could be naive enough to believe in "Sky-Daddy", the amazing Virgin-Pimp God.

This being said, if someone is ready to blame a shooting on U.S.'s so-called decadence, Why can't I blame a shooting on Islam savagery?

[TheSanityInspector]

Horrible incident.

[truthsabre7]

Have citizens start packing. ( A weapon)

[grtdaneviking]

Greetings form Bo In Montana usa

fires and prayers are smoking in montana today

I blame the bully.

peace

Bo

[siggyboss]

It's horrible that the shooting happened. Still, society isn't collapsing. It's just human nature someone will be crazy, and no amount of laws/regulations are going to stop it.

[raulitech]

i myself am Finnish, though not born in Finland and the few years I lived in among the most peaceful and progressive country of all the world this is disturbting. Some of the young are becoming vandals, lost and gothic so they must be inspired and motivated otherwise.

[MrCropper]

I guess America's greedy capitalism wasn't the reason for America's school shootings after all. (I never believed it was, but that was asserted in Europe.)

[Smalley123]

Personaly i blame it on the alienation of american youth, Media, amd schools making high school seem so important ... im not to sure why it happened in finland, but its sad that this is becoming common

[MokomaSusi]

"m not to sure why it happened in finland"

It happenned becos we live in socialist system what is very rotten from the core.

[FinnHawk]

What do both countries (Finland and USA) have in common? High per capita rates of gun ownership, and easier accessibility to guns for young people. Altho, that's not necessarily the only problem or even the main problem... in this case, the two Finnish school shooters knew each other thru the internet and idolized American school shooters.

[LamboK28992]

@FinnHawk guns have nothing to do with crime. crime is caused by social situations.

[AmeriKidz]

How sad... what an unfortunate situation compounded by the knee jerk reaction to blame it on the internet, guns or societal prosperity(?). It is becoming increasingly obvious that, more often than not, occurrences like these have an unspoken correlation to side effects of a mental illness prescription. Does anyone know if this guy was on/off medication? Was his mental health in question?

[dcruze]

I can see why they blame the Internet, it makes it easier for kids all over the world who have similar thoughts to look up webpages that more or less work as "shrines". There is a lot of it right here on YouTube. The media is partly to blame, these people know they will get famous if they do something like that. So a solution could be to downplay it in the media, the same way they do with suicides.

[briefjourney]

It's USA cancer that spreading to the rest of the world. Humanity must get rid itself of this cancerous entity called USA.

USA culture and way of life are the source of many problems.Teenagers throughout the world just copy the behavior of the USA criminals, since these teenagers think that this is cool thing to do.

Save the world - stop the USA cancer!

[SatanicCod]

Yada yada yada...

How simple it is to blame the United States for all the ills under the sun while other countries have done oh-so much worse in their history.

There was a shooting because a punk refused to assume his own life and used the pathetic excuse of blaming the others for everything. The U.S. is not to blame. The real problem is nihilism.

[wonderfulskirt]

anyone can see that guns are popular in the culture of usa. why is everyone trying to hide bad things about usa? "other countries have done oh-so much worse in their history". woow, so nuking civilians in japan was nothing? americans keep criticizing every single nation in their living rooms and whenever someone is criticizing usa, then its all wrong. look at what kind of movies you get from usa. its all violence. experts say children arent violent cause of movies. yeah, tell that to the dead.

[magick205]

"other countries have done oh-so much worse in their history". woow, so nuking civilians in japan was nothing?" Gods, get a clue. Ask anybody who's chinese about Nanking, Koreans about the occupation from 1910, and Oh Yeah, anybody who's Jewish or Romany about their fun times in Germany. It's just under the surface of us all. That's where the brutality comes from. We're all still dangerous primates. Brutal. Mindless. Lethal.

[SatanicCod]

I love the revisionist's view of the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The bombing was made in wartime and both cities were logistical centers for the Imperial Navy.

If you follow the rule of war, the destruction of those two cities were legit.

Besides, have you talked to Japanese who loved during the second world war? I did. In 1945, Japan wasn't looking for surrender. They were training their children in killing GI soldiers with sharp bamboo poles. Hard to talk peace with fanatics.

[magick205]

Yeah. Always fixated on the "bomb". They seem to forget the firebombings of Tokyo, Dresden, London/Coventry, and Shanghai. Lots of people killed with good old napalm and thermite. As far a fanaticism goes, it's really something relative to the culture. In their eyes, I'm sure that dying for the Showa Emperor was a great thing as a citizen. The Korean folks I know would've been very glad to help them.

[SatanicCod]

Bingo.

During World War Two, it was believed that a solid air assault was enough to bend the will of the population; it never worked. London and many other English cities were targeted every night by the German air force without any success. If we add the fact that the term "Strategic Bombing" was an oxymoron before guided bombs, yeah, the civilians got it bad.

There's only one way to deal with fanatics; crush their morale. On this, even at a high cost, the bombs did their job.

[saradamsmc]

I salute you. Couldn't agree more with every comment you've made here.

[blackxavior]

Yep, blame the US that will solve the problem.

[blackxavior]

Yep, blame the US that will solve the problem.

[johnnyboylean]

everyone always says school shootings are only a problem in the USA, guess their wrong. a shame we can't just all get along. 420

[TropicalyFrozen]

Shootings like this happen a lot here in the US, it's messed up how things like this happen all the time. This would be something you couldn't imagine happening.

[Hadogei123456789]

These sorts of things don't happen in Scandinavia...

[WKaliber1]

good video