MJ is the best but there are so may great players do n't take the charge they deserve!for example dominique was soooo great player and had some great battles vs mj.in this game he ''only" had 28p.11reb,but i also remember many 40+ games and a game he 57 points,of course mj anwer 4 months later when he had a 61points game!so great battles betwwen them,mj also had great battles with magic,drexler,barkley,b.king,isiah,dumars,hardaway,payton,k.johnson,mullin,r.miller,rice, but the best were vs bird!
@SPMJ, often I make myself to reminence just what it was like just before I could possibly dunk in bball. Immediately after I made use of the training system at 50-inch-vertical(dot)com - my game has been improving alot
It`s so frustrated to read that today`s basketball player is better player than twenty years ago. Well there are a lot of players that can dunk in more ways today than they back then. The handling skills are a little better. But the fundamentals are gone, the team play is also missing and the heart. The passion, the sacrifice is not in the game anymore. these guys just don`t have it. A 76ers `83 team any of the 80`s Lakers team, any of the Celts 80`s team, 89/90 Pistons team would cruise today
Why do U think the league changed the rules to FAVOR perimeter players?
It was done to curtail a league besieged with guys with a LACK of formal training on the collegiate level, not to mention to create an "aesthetically appealing" game in hopes of increasing offense & efficiency, and to bring back longtime fans who'd stopped tuning in BECAUSE they saw a LACK of fundamentals & passion.
The league changed from being about substance & team play to individual style & money..
The Atlanta Hawks were a very athletic team back then. In fact they were the superior team. But The Bulls had Jordan. If you kids say that today`s NBA basketball is more competitive than the late 80`s you should notice just how many good athletes the Hawks had on Jordan in this game. There are only three major differences between nowdays and the golden days: the players are bulkier, less team oriented and heartless. The thing is no team today, nor player could stop Michael Jordan today.
How are you going to guard him? Give him space and he'll hit the jumper. Crowd him and he'll drive. Put a smaller guy on him and he'll post up. Put a bigger guy on him and he'll drive. Pack the paint and play zone and he'll move without the ball for a cut or to get a midrange jumper. Dude can basically do everything. Only way to "guard" him is to be him up, which Detroit and New York did (which you can't do today).
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Jordan didnt won championships until MAGIC and BIRD got old, one of the reasons is that Jordan was the most selfish player in the NBA history( just look at tat play were B.Cartwright is alone and he didnt pass him the ball, or better yet (i dont know in wich game (but the game is ending and he have 3 players alone 3, 3,3 but he still made the play al by himself...
@lagosdre Datz why he avg 11 assists in the 91 finals where he beat Magic, Magic was 32 there Jordan won titles at age 33,34,& 35 so dont give me that Magic was old Bulllshit you want to see a ballhog go watch kobe play
"Choking" wasn't innovated in 2009 lol. Either you make the shot or you miss it. See Magic Johnson in the '84 finals. Every player has come up short at some point.
i could be mistaken but in another game MJ had either 47 or 48 points with a triple-double in another game, which was his highest scoring triple double, probably one of the highest scoring triple-doubles ever
Imagine MJ playing in today's NBA competition against so many european players. The statline for this game would have looked like 60/16/15 today. Man!! this game never gets old, I've seen it many times b4. That tomohawk dunk on 2 defenders off the shake & bake is incredibly brilliant. He did that again in 1998 as 35 yrs old against Jazz on Greg Ostertag in regular season NBC televised game. Saw that one live.
Clyde Drexler. Reggie Miller. Mitch Richmond. Great Defensive two guard (John Starks). League was full of great players back than thanks to NO european truck load sissy defenseless talent. & NBA players atleast spent 2 years in NCAA to fine tune their skills. NOW. garbage like Kobe is seen everywhere.
Name 1 great center like Wilt, Kareem, Hakeem, Mutombo, Mourning, Parish, Ewing in todays NBA. NOOOOOO ONE !. Joke is on you sucka.
lol u'r obviously either a kid or know nothing about the history of basketball. Some of the greatest dynasties and players in the history of the game played in the 80s and 90s. Not to mention that the defensive rules back then weren't as soft and offense-friendly as they are today. There is a reason why mid-80s is considered the golden era of NBA basketball. The NBA today is a joke.
The SG spot definitely has more good players today. MJ's era was dominated by big men(this era has only given us 2 great big men and a HUGE drop off after that). That said, it's not like MJ didn't go up against some fine 2s/combos in his day - Reggie, Drexler, Dumars, Richmond, Mullin, Alvin Robertson and Dennis Johnson. Then later in his career he went up against Rice, Penny, Ray Allen, Spreewell, Houston, Steve Smith, Eddie Jones, AI etc. MJ faced very solid competition at his position.
Part of the reason the SG's appear so "talented" today is because the rules cater to them. You can pretty much chop 3-5 ppg off these guys' scoring averages if they played under the defensive rules of 10-15 years ago. Bye bye 10-13 FT's per game.
Why 10-15 years ago, jl23? I'd say you'd see a similar drop-off(about 3 ppg IMO) in averages about 4 years ago itself. Slashers and perimeter stars didn't begin to go nuts until the no contact rules starting from '05 onwards.
Defense's prime IMO was 1993-2004. I don't think MJ in that time period could've put up some of those ridiculous shooting percentages he did from 88-91. Although I do believe he would've come close under the post-2005 rules.
I believe that the teams in the era that you named were a little more defensive oriented because the league was more watered down and there were less great players on each team. Passing and shooting skills went down, not necessarily defense improving. Also that was the era when guys got bigger through weightlifting after being inspired by the Knicks. That being said, I think that the 2guard spot is more athletic but nowhere near as skilled, deep, and multi-faceted as MJ's day.
I definitely think a 25-28 year old Jordan could have shot 52-53% in 1996 and 1997, for instance. His FG% decreased pretty linearly with age. He shot 49.5% in 1996, and that was on like 80% jumpers. I definitely think if that was 26 year old Jordan instead of 33 year old Jordan he shoots 2-3% better. At least 2% better (51.5%).
So because there wasn't great 2 guards back then that means it's more talented now? You do realize there are 4 other positions on the floor, don't you?
its funny how mj puts everything into every game and he is every where at all times noone will be as good as him.Like those people who think kobe is he sucks he did horrible against the celtics in the nba finals and lebron is the same way
i love watching these old tapes of jordan it really shows how much the game has progressed over time but still no one can ever be compared to michael hes just outstanding kobe is good but hes not doing the kind of stuff michael did and lebron even though hes my favourite player in the game today no one will and can be compared ot michael jordan except me:p just joking michael jordan will always be known as the greatest of all time
Just another day at the office for the 80s-athletic-monster version of MJ. This is incredible - I have this game up from the exact opposite angle so I've never seen this version before. Thanks for the upload!
the move on 2:32 is sick. his reflex is just so unbeliveble. the 2:43 move is crazy too even though he miss that jumper, look how quick and determined he is in that play but going to the other direction and the defensive player has no clue and no way to guard him. that kind of basketball knowledge is what is missing today.
MJ is the best but there are so may great players do n't take the charge they deserve!for example dominique was soooo great player and had some great battles vs mj.in this game he ''only" had 28p.11reb,but i also remember many 40+ games and a game he 57 points,of course mj anwer 4 months later when he had a 61points game!so great battles betwwen them,mj also had great battles with magic,drexler,barkley,b.king,isiah,dumars,hardaway,payton,k.johnson,mullin,r.miller,rice, but the best were vs bird!
AdreasTheGreat 3 weeks ago
@SPMJ, often I make myself to reminence just what it was like just before I could possibly dunk in bball. Immediately after I made use of the training system at 50-inch-vertical(dot)com - my game has been improving alot
Bulls @ Hawks 88-89: Michael Jordan 48/10/9.
stephaniemillerk 8 months ago
drose just had a game similar to this against the hawks not too long ago :)
damen74 8 months ago
please guys dont compare MJ, the God of basketball with any other player. No contest, he is the best
dogeban 9 months ago
It`s so frustrated to read that today`s basketball player is better player than twenty years ago. Well there are a lot of players that can dunk in more ways today than they back then. The handling skills are a little better. But the fundamentals are gone, the team play is also missing and the heart. The passion, the sacrifice is not in the game anymore. these guys just don`t have it. A 76ers `83 team any of the 80`s Lakers team, any of the Celts 80`s team, 89/90 Pistons team would cruise today
mikjord 11 months ago
@mikjord
What "fundamentals" are missing from today's game?
What "passion" and "sacrifice" is missing now? Have you seen Kobe play?
TheOtherView 8 months ago
@TheOtherView
Why do U think the league changed the rules to FAVOR perimeter players?
It was done to curtail a league besieged with guys with a LACK of formal training on the collegiate level, not to mention to create an "aesthetically appealing" game in hopes of increasing offense & efficiency, and to bring back longtime fans who'd stopped tuning in BECAUSE they saw a LACK of fundamentals & passion.
The league changed from being about substance & team play to individual style & money..
blackadam06 8 months ago
The Atlanta Hawks were a very athletic team back then. In fact they were the superior team. But The Bulls had Jordan. If you kids say that today`s NBA basketball is more competitive than the late 80`s you should notice just how many good athletes the Hawks had on Jordan in this game. There are only three major differences between nowdays and the golden days: the players are bulkier, less team oriented and heartless. The thing is no team today, nor player could stop Michael Jordan today.
mikjord 11 months ago
The Atlanta Hawks were a very athletic team back then. In fact they were the superior team. But The Bulls had Jordan.
mikjord 11 months ago
Look all at his quickness at 2:10 !!
69points 1 year ago
3:20
Wow... what a dunk by Jordan over two guys... one of them was Wilkins
jrbhbr 1 year ago
lolz. "Now they double team" ..... "He beats it so easily doesn't he?"
Exactly.
uberathlete 1 year ago
How are you going to guard him? Give him space and he'll hit the jumper. Crowd him and he'll drive. Put a smaller guy on him and he'll post up. Put a bigger guy on him and he'll drive. Pack the paint and play zone and he'll move without the ball for a cut or to get a midrange jumper. Dude can basically do everything. Only way to "guard" him is to be him up, which Detroit and New York did (which you can't do today).
uberathlete 1 year ago
my god what speed @2:13!!!! unbelievable.
cadizbedini 1 year ago
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Jordan didnt won championships until MAGIC and BIRD got old, one of the reasons is that Jordan was the most selfish player in the NBA history( just look at tat play were B.Cartwright is alone and he didnt pass him the ball, or better yet (i dont know in wich game (but the game is ending and he have 3 players alone 3, 3,3 but he still made the play al by himself...
lagosdre 2 years ago
Shut yo dumb ass up..
Your comments are so ignorant that they don't even bare an elaborate, fact filled response to blow that B.S. to shreds..
Idiot..
blackadam06 2 years ago
@lagosdre Datz why he avg 11 assists in the 91 finals where he beat Magic, Magic was 32 there Jordan won titles at age 33,34,& 35 so dont give me that Magic was old Bulllshit you want to see a ballhog go watch kobe play
dafoo28 1 year ago
they could have at least tried to play some d geeze lol, i remember i saw this game live
kareemali 2 years ago
notice how he doesn't choke at the free throw line like a lot of superstars do nowadays
bd3717 2 years ago
"Choking" wasn't innovated in 2009 lol. Either you make the shot or you miss it. See Magic Johnson in the '84 finals. Every player has come up short at some point.
outspoken34 2 years ago
Jesus! @ 3:10
ksmall82 2 years ago
This was better than Bron and Kobe's MSG performances.
andgar923 3 years ago 4
Damn this game 20 yrs old!
JCR1992 3 years ago
almost tripledouble and almost 50 in the same game
roncarl9 3 years ago 2
i could be mistaken but in another game MJ had either 47 or 48 points with a triple-double in another game, which was his highest scoring triple double, probably one of the highest scoring triple-doubles ever
AgentCirrus 3 years ago
Defense's prime IMO was 1992~1997
Jordanhair 3 years ago
Nein Bulls Nein Bulls!!!!!! Aaron Wernli
mercedescls63 3 years ago
sometimes it looks like his moves are choreographed by michael jackson! haha
aspiration24 3 years ago
Hey thanks for capping this, good video
thebballkid23 3 years ago
Imagine MJ playing in today's NBA competition against so many european players. The statline for this game would have looked like 60/16/15 today. Man!! this game never gets old, I've seen it many times b4. That tomohawk dunk on 2 defenders off the shake & bake is incredibly brilliant. He did that again in 1998 as 35 yrs old against Jazz on Greg Ostertag in regular season NBC televised game. Saw that one live.
mnkhan2020 3 years ago 2
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mnkhan2020- guy, the league is waaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy more talented today. lets not play ourselves.
name one other great two guard back then. think of the talent.
urArchitect 3 years ago
Clyde Drexler (Dream Team, Hall of Famer)
Reggie Miller (Hall of Famer)
Chris Mullin (Dream Team)
wow that was easy
Hypebusta 3 years ago
Mitch Richmond, Reggie Lewis...
jordanlover23 3 years ago
Clyde Drexler. Reggie Miller. Mitch Richmond. Great Defensive two guard (John Starks). League was full of great players back than thanks to NO european truck load sissy defenseless talent. & NBA players atleast spent 2 years in NCAA to fine tune their skills. NOW. garbage like Kobe is seen everywhere.
Name 1 great center like Wilt, Kareem, Hakeem, Mutombo, Mourning, Parish, Ewing in todays NBA. NOOOOOO ONE !. Joke is on you sucka.
mnkhan2020 3 years ago
Word. Just to add to the great defensive wings you listed ... Gerald Wilkins, Rolando Blackman, Alvin Robertson, and Joe Dumars.
uberathlete 3 years ago
lol u'r obviously either a kid or know nothing about the history of basketball. Some of the greatest dynasties and players in the history of the game played in the 80s and 90s. Not to mention that the defensive rules back then weren't as soft and offense-friendly as they are today. There is a reason why mid-80s is considered the golden era of NBA basketball. The NBA today is a joke.
uberathlete 3 years ago 2
@uberathlete you are definately right !!!!! look at today's defense where players don't even sweat.
69points 1 year ago
The SG spot definitely has more good players today. MJ's era was dominated by big men(this era has only given us 2 great big men and a HUGE drop off after that). That said, it's not like MJ didn't go up against some fine 2s/combos in his day - Reggie, Drexler, Dumars, Richmond, Mullin, Alvin Robertson and Dennis Johnson. Then later in his career he went up against Rice, Penny, Ray Allen, Spreewell, Houston, Steve Smith, Eddie Jones, AI etc. MJ faced very solid competition at his position.
SPMJ 3 years ago
Part of the reason the SG's appear so "talented" today is because the rules cater to them. You can pretty much chop 3-5 ppg off these guys' scoring averages if they played under the defensive rules of 10-15 years ago. Bye bye 10-13 FT's per game.
jordanlover23 3 years ago 2
Why 10-15 years ago, jl23? I'd say you'd see a similar drop-off(about 3 ppg IMO) in averages about 4 years ago itself. Slashers and perimeter stars didn't begin to go nuts until the no contact rules starting from '05 onwards.
Defense's prime IMO was 1993-2004. I don't think MJ in that time period could've put up some of those ridiculous shooting percentages he did from 88-91. Although I do believe he would've come close under the post-2005 rules.
SPMJ 3 years ago
I believe that the teams in the era that you named were a little more defensive oriented because the league was more watered down and there were less great players on each team. Passing and shooting skills went down, not necessarily defense improving. Also that was the era when guys got bigger through weightlifting after being inspired by the Knicks. That being said, I think that the 2guard spot is more athletic but nowhere near as skilled, deep, and multi-faceted as MJ's day.
yaiqab 3 years ago
I definitely think a 25-28 year old Jordan could have shot 52-53% in 1996 and 1997, for instance. His FG% decreased pretty linearly with age. He shot 49.5% in 1996, and that was on like 80% jumpers. I definitely think if that was 26 year old Jordan instead of 33 year old Jordan he shoots 2-3% better. At least 2% better (51.5%).
jordanlover23 3 years ago
LOL. It's still amazing when you read that. His FG decreased to 49.5. Still better than a lot of today's stars
jeditwinz 3 years ago
Actually, it's better than all of today's perimeter stars. Only Wade has matched it with one season of 49.5% FG iirc.
jordanlover23 3 years ago
I believe it. Fundamentals...it's like a lost talent
jeditwinz 3 years ago
So because there wasn't great 2 guards back then that means it's more talented now? You do realize there are 4 other positions on the floor, don't you?
bobo0383 3 years ago
Based on what?
ericwill06 3 years ago
3:15 was just nasty he dunk on 2 people AND the foul this just NEVER GETS OLD!! his game is BEAUTIFUL to watch
bigdplaya25 3 years ago
its funny how mj puts everything into every game and he is every where at all times noone will be as good as him.Like those people who think kobe is he sucks he did horrible against the celtics in the nba finals and lebron is the same way
goatse4you 3 years ago
i've never seen an athlete like him. Alongside barry sanders. Michael Jordan is artist for the ages, i was lucky to see art in motion with Mike.
SOTO23LEE 3 years ago
People forget how good Barry Sanders was???
ericwill06 3 years ago
i love watching these old tapes of jordan it really shows how much the game has progressed over time but still no one can ever be compared to michael hes just outstanding kobe is good but hes not doing the kind of stuff michael did and lebron even though hes my favourite player in the game today no one will and can be compared ot michael jordan except me:p just joking michael jordan will always be known as the greatest of all time
kutupower 3 years ago
This was awesome. Really displayed MJ's all around game. Perfect to show to the idiots and kids today.
uberathlete 3 years ago
That was a sick dunk at 3:15
Jams212 3 years ago
so many fouls to him?
yugioh984464 3 years ago
2:30 is just unbelievable, the impossible move then shot
2brave2handle 3 years ago 4
kobe aint doing that type of shit
kivo44 3 years ago
GREATEST OF ALL TIME. (goat). "By acclamation the Greatest there ever was, The Greatest there ever will be", Thanks Micjael ;-)
jmralcazar 3 years ago
derrick watch this game and you'll c why lebron aint better then jordan not even close u gotta be kidding me man
rashaan92 3 years ago
Dude, who's the Derrick you're referring to? Derrick Rose? Cuz if he said anything that implied that Lebron is better than MJ then he's effin crazy.
uberathlete 3 years ago
Just another day at the office for the 80s-athletic-monster version of MJ. This is incredible - I have this game up from the exact opposite angle so I've never seen this version before. Thanks for the upload!
hoopsencyclopedia 3 years ago
Lol i was thinkin just that Hoops, u do have this game but its not the same transmission. Love it, thx for the upload SPMJ, hope more is coming.
rrTale 3 years ago
Yeah, the commentary is the main reason why I uploaded this. I knew Hoops had a different feed.
SPMJ 3 years ago
MJ the GOAT dunks on dominique and moses at the same time and i have always wondered why thats not on any top 10 list of his
JCR1992 3 years ago
yup, but any of MJs top 25 dunks or beyond could fit into his top 10.
dyyhard 3 years ago
yeah thats true
JCR1992 3 years ago
hahahha i watched this game on ESPN Classic Mj was on fireeeeeeeee
peteandjordanlover23 3 years ago
I love how Jordan just broke the double team like it was nothing.
KCAccidental101 3 years ago
the move and dunk starting at 3:13.... WOAH
I hopped out of my computer chair after seeing that
ForEmily23 3 years ago
he's just better, that's all
ForEmily23 3 years ago
good work
juju100000 3 years ago
thank you for this rare game!!
the move on 2:32 is sick. his reflex is just so unbeliveble. the 2:43 move is crazy too even though he miss that jumper, look how quick and determined he is in that play but going to the other direction and the defensive player has no clue and no way to guard him. that kind of basketball knowledge is what is missing today.
popeyeisgood 3 years ago
the unmatchable.
char4ever 3 years ago