The Tao of Tai Chi

[8triagrammer]

Gangsta

[hts2008w10]

I like Yi Jing the most, wrote by an emperor--Emperor Zhou Wen Wang.

[taichinat]

I am not surprised he is hot its in HK and prob 35- 40 degrees!

[Vertigopills]

Effortlessly? That dude's top is drenched in sweat lol

[Kingitchi85]

@DragonZord90 well said

[leophyter]

very bad demonstration

[TheZhongzheng]

@leophyter what a fool you are

[UnknownFromHeaven]

"learn the form but seek the formless,shapeless,

learn the way and then find your own way,".,.,that is tai chi chuan!

[kyawmlinn]

i want to learn this . please teach me.

[MystSilverDragon]

hehe

[hecatesmagickchild]

I have never heard anyone from china say tai chi was not a martial art and it is very effective I have used it in defense and easily pushed around guys bigger then me

[UnknownFromHeaven]

i agree with you!

[JianChuanTaiChi]

Isnt that Wu style Tai chi...

[MaBu888]

Tai ji quan master OWNS HIS FAMILY!

[aikyu999]

Taichi is a sub-category of Chigong.

[MaBu888]

Taiji, however one classifies it, is exclusively or not exclusively a martial art. People ADD qi gong training to it. If one practices taiji quan in a non-combative manner, then it is not taiji quan. Taiji would suck A55 as only qi gong. BTW I have not heard of any qi gong styles that go by the name of taiji quan, the same can be said for bagua zhang and xingyi quan. Some movements are indeed qi gong. I could also be UTTERLY WRONG about it. There are better qigong methods than non-combat taiji!

[trevcaru]

Taiji is Qigong when coordinated with the breath; and, of course, done with proper structure and intention.

[MaBu888]

And also wu gong, wu shu.

[UnknownFromHeaven]

You are in one part wrong,tai chi is a martial art,Murihei Ueshiba before making the style of Aikido...studied Tai Chi in China...the harmony principles are the same,Tai Chi is very efficient to anyone who practice martial arts,because helps you collect more energy and in that way you become better,behind every martial art,there is a little tai chi...

even to muay thai or capoeira,the slow movements from trainings are inspired by the famous tai chi chuan!

i wish you well!

[MaBu888]

I agree - tai ji quan is a very solid martial art. I have studied it a little and what you say is true. But I wouldn't say thee slow movements in non-Chinese martial arts are from taiji quan, but rather separate but similar developments.

[UnknownFromHeaven]

you are mistaken...those forms are from tai chi...every martial art has its kata..so as tai chi chuan...those "slow" forms are really accesible in combat,and tai chi chuan is like a true mask,who hides great power.

"You can be as soft as the wind or shadow or you can make a hole thru walls"

[MaBu888]

What I mean: muay thai and capoeira don't have taiji movements. I agree with the rest. Tread mindfully. :l

I agree that aikido has much in common to taiji quan, bagua chang.

[TheZhongzheng]

@UnknownFromHeaven Nicely said!

[WarriorBoy]

Yeah, this movie probably gets a lot of hate from most of the Taiji hippies saying "it isn't soft enough", but I gotta say, between the stuff shown here, and the stuff in the Jackie Wu or Jet Li movies, this is actually closer to real Tai Chi. I'm not ignorant enough like most amatuer Tai Chi practicioners to go around saying "that's not internal enough." All of those guys are just mouth boxers. Barring all of that, it's just a movie!

P.S.--The master's daughter was what held my attention here!

[ninpomasta111]

Look at Tai Chi from the taoist perspective, you will see that there is yin AND yang. Softness AND force. Tai Chi as a martial art requires you to use some kind of force, but in Tai Chi the force is not muscular force, but Fa Jin. It's different than the force used in external styles, but it IS force. Just because someone uses a kick that isn't "slow" in an application doesn't mean it's not Tai Chi. Not even grandmasters can use slow tai chi in a real fight, martial art tai chi is just as fast.

[66shadymilkman]

Very true. I starting studying Wu style Tai Chi when I was 14. I've found it very effective over the years when I have had a need to use force (I work in bail enforcement/tactical security).

[ninpomasta111]

Nice!

[MaBu888]

I agree... although fa jin uses muscles. It's all as true as you said, still.

[ninpomasta111]

You're right, it does. Glad you understand what I'm saying though :)

But for people who don't know what it is... it's a different kind of force expression that I can't really explain very well, but it's not too hard to find stuff about it to read.

[JazzRastaf]

if it does, it's not fa jin

[MaBu888]

But minimally, only to lift and hold the body parts and to tense and relax.

[runetang]

damn yo slapped the shit out of home boy who left his shirt at home lol!

[bookguy12000]

that guy sweats a lot.

[XIPM3]

this has to be real, the guy is sweating like a pig, he wouldnt be doing that if it was set up.

[NassemAir]

cool and damm funny

[kaanusyos]

asdads

[maokeke]

haha～they are so sweaty~

[darth8freak]

woh! Most of taiji practitioners must be laughing their asses of when they see that movie!

[bookguy12000]

haha. yeah.

[prince777423554]

tai chi is the best.

[Danyelhabin77]

布鲁斯・李是最佳的武术 ..........我的妻子是汉语, 并且我爱她的阴道

[sinistavoicez]

Bro I need this movie what's the name of it Do You think Tai Seng Video Would have it?

[Loyaute]

re: the aikido statement.

Taiji has to "effortlessly" neutralise AN learn how to strike. Add to that the Chinese medical aspect it is safe to say real Taijiquan is a much more involved study.

[Loyaute]

Nobody here cares about your porn, go home...

[Eonnn84]

aikido is a form of martial arts in which you try not to physically hit the person, instead you counteract their moves and use their own weight, movement and momentum against them so that each time they try to attack you, they end up falling down without you barely even touching them. Search google for more info.

[georgehsliew]

Those so-called tai chi masters who emphasize softness have never been proven effective in real combat.

The "effortless" demonstration by most "tai chi masters" is not real fight. Sifu Cheng was well known for both street fights and formal competitions from 1950s through 1980s.

[khlun]

I agreed Master Cheng's Kung Fu had been well tested since the years of 1950s and he had contributed much to the development of taiji in Hong Kong.

I think why most "effortness" taiji masters cannot fight is that they are not practising in the (old) right way. They just do it through slow body movements (external)and has nothing to do with the body inside. Hence, this is taiji exercise and there is nothing related to actual fighting.

[Francisawkeewoon]

Practising Tai Chi(Forms) is not equivalent to using it in a fight. Training Tai Chi for use in a fight is a separate issue altogether. In reality we are taught to avoid fights in the first place and at worst to use it only for defence.

[georgehsliew]

Agree!

[Francisawkeewoon]

Thats because you've never personally seen or experience the "softness" method. Actually it's not merely softness as you imagine. The Yin-Yang symbol should give you a hint. You use soft to counter hard as would hard to counter soft. The principle of opposites; the night and day as to the soft and hard. One example is if you were to hit the surface water hard and fast, does the water appears solid? But if you were to do it "softly" does it hurt anymore?

[otmlscrcs75]

Sweating happens naturally when you open the channels of energy.Tai chi is 50% hard 50% soft as should all kung fu be. It is the yin and yang. One without the other is nothing useful you must have both. Tai chi is not soft it is the response of hard with soft and soft with hard.=tai chi. This is still a movie at any rate and was a scripted scene which is sure to degrade this mans talent and that of the young man regardless.the best practitioners of tai chi will always looks like a beginner.

[pickula]

I trained with Cheng Tin Hung a number of times in the 1980s and I can confirm that it's him in the video. He was indeed the real deal, he won many full contact bouts himself, and trained many other fighters with successful records in competition. As regards sweating - remember that studio lights cause a lot of heat, you could sit still in that environment and sweat a lot. Cheng Tin Hung died a few years ago - he was the last Tai Chi sifu I know of who demonstrated real fighting ability.

[w0rldpeace]

That dude is sweating like a mofo.

[khlun]

Taiji is the only form of martial art that does not rely on strength. When you say 50% force and 50% softness, then you are not in the world of taiji. If you are wet through with sweats after practicing taiji, you are not doing the without strenght way. A little bit of sweat is OK but definitely not sweat through. The reason that it takes so long for learning is that you have to eliminate the application of force and strength which we apply in every second of life.

[Eonnn84]

khlun... tai-chi isn't the only form of martial arts that does not rely on strength... have you heard of aikido?

[khlun]

I do not know aikido. Thank you for your information. Happy if you don't mind tell me more about it. In my opinion, you would have applied strength or force if you grab or try to knock the joints of the other party.

[tethiendaithanh]

my grandma practice taiji every morning

[FreshNsexy]

poor baby, that chick is hot

[taijimessenger]

first part - commonly misinterpretion of Taiji APplicaiton becuase apply the form prior to well trained. Just like a tool (say SAW) is forged and made ready, then try to use a hammer to saw cut a piece of woord. But the strong interest and effort committed will make him a wonderful Taiji guyonce he can find his master.

@nd part is a clip of old old movie (30 years ago). Comment on the posture of the guy is not making sense.

Of course he is not trained in Taiji at all. Just for movie.

[BritishRacingGreen]

Have to seen this movie? Do you know who that man is? He is the real deal. Others in the movie might not be real fighters, but did you expect Tai Chi in combat to look really pretty?

[CT2507]

Why does the taichi master sweat like a pig while beating his oponents if he is moving efortlessly?

[Adechamps]

Tai chi does not prevent you from sweating, learn more about training and stuff and then you'll stop talking non sense...

[BritishRacingGreen]

True, I sweat all the time when I train. Even when it is cold outside.

[garchauro]

Some tai chi moves are so good... I've learned many martial arts. And I can say that this kind of fighting is rather good. You still can act relaxed, even if you look differently when you use the technique quickly. Anyway the moves are good itself so there is no need to act violent or strong. You just need a thinking head and a trained form.

[blackjamm]

what style is the first man using? Wu-style? His single whip is in horse stance. Anyway, good use of cloud hands and roll back, but his wild horse and heel kick seem too hard-style. Good to see reasonable application in there, even if some would say it's not as soft as they would like - such as myself, perhaps.

[BritishRacingGreen]

It is based on Wu Style, but not from the Wu family side. The HK Tai Chi Master, the late "Cheng Tien-Hung" served as a consultant for this movie "Tai Chi Boxer". I believe very much that it is him in this video clip in action. Softness is not 100% TaiChi. You need a degree of force when necessary. Hence 50/50 of soft/hard.

[dragon877]

totally agree with british....application is a whole different thing from practice....besides it's a movie...movies will be movies, take it with a grain of salt :-)

[BritishRacingGreen]

Different masters have their different styles, so you would rarely find a group of Yang style masters doing it all in the same way or manner. This video was showing a fair bit of application and you have to remember that in applications, it is not going to be a pretty as the long hand form. If we are going to judge the quality of tai Chi in this video like that, then we haven't learned a thing in Tai Chi.

[taijidao]

It is not really taijiquan, it seems wai jia, not nei jia

[Ryooken]

Remember that Tai Chi starts off hard when sped up and then softens as the practicioner gets more experienced and better at their combat skills. This trap many practioners fall into.

[chudson67]

Cool clip, thanks for posting. It's nice to see the applications of the form.

[sinistavoicez]

My sentiments exactly especially for a movie to use moves straight from the actual form as a foundation for the plot. you gotta love it!

[taijiguy]

Bad taijiquan, bad gongfu.

[Realmasterorder]

That little biatch needed a lesson old Guy said !

She got the hots for the young Guy While old one want to have her all by himself ! :)

[akirahojo]

crikey, that was cool stuff.

[mistysong]

nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[littlecannon]

This movie is called the Shadow Boxer... it says this at the beginning oof the clip.

[midshipdrift]

what are the names of these movies? where can i find the rest?