12 speakers compared 8 alnico's & 2 ceramics jensen vs blue vs gold vs scumback vs Celestion

[Dobermann49]

v30 is powerful no more

[billion81]

Super cool of Rivera to do this...Tops were Gold, Canis, V30, and the Red Fang.

[misternogreco]

What about the clean tones?

[Jpalmieri4]

my favourite is the scumnico, thick and full without piercing highs

[bobert247]

that's the best example of how much a speaker affects your sound. such a wide range.

[johnnyrog2002]

It's amazing how much different a V30 Sounds Mic'd than it does standing in front of it. It always sounds great form a Microphone Recording, but I seem to always yank them out of cabinets with my amps. Need to re-accees my speaker situations … I love greenbacks onstage, but the V30 does indeed sound great here.

[spentonmediocrity]

@johnnyrog2002

The upper mids of this speaker sound great in open/dampened spaces..but are really hard on the ears in enclosed environments...same with the Celestion Blue.The V30 doesn't sound too good for cleans either as those upper mids are not compressed like they are in this clip.

[imeddy]

V30 wins hands down imho.

[jaqjaques]

@imeddy yep

[vltjd]

Let's see....8 AlNiCo, 2 ceramic....hummm....that's ten. I think there were 4 ceramics.

[LPMojoGL]

Gold, M75, V30, all good.

[franciserenata]

vintage 30, alnico gold...

[spentonmediocrity]

couple things..the popular v30 sounds good in some situations it is hard on ears with many amps and in smaller rooms and have the typical ceramic/paper cone character(lacking tonal dynamics)

what isn't captured here is how these speakers respond under more wattage...where the CB sounds a little ear fatiguing in the upper mids clean it sounds amazing when hit full on with a pair of el84's or 6V6's,the cermics don't react/fell as musically as the alnico speakers

[austinskinner]

V30, Blue, Scumnico all win. No order.

[livegoodwin]

Nice Job!

Thanks for the vid - would love to have heard a Weber Blue Dog in there, though.

[djangolad]

Celestion V 30 kills all!

[fuzznerd]

does anyone do a shoot out like this for clean or 'edge of break up' sounds, cos that's what I prefer and probably think most alnicos are better suited to anyway? great review though.

[fuzznerd]

wow for that rock sound skip the fancy alnico and just get a v30. very interesting.

[xXTywinXx]

Blackbird Red Fang and V30 win

[wrona003]

those V30s are simply classic...

[ewmehmo]

Blackmountain sounds shitty to me

[POWPOWNATOR]

vintage 30 all the way

[tjalla]

dang... for all the flack it cops, the V30 sounded boss

[thesuicidebobs]

First Jensen and Emminence, OK. The rest of both seem very poor. All the Celestions seem decent. The V30 sounds very present, which may be why it has a reputation for being so "ice-picky" in certain amps. Scumbacks seem darker, which may be way they have such a good reputation in brighter amps. I just discovered that my ceramics sound better than my Alnico's for a distorted Strat. They add mid punch. The alnico's are exceptional and 3 dimensional for a clean Strat. Remember the trade-offs.

[giosim75]

DE GUSTIBUS

[Rikitocker]

The Celestion 75's sound great as always ...

[KHINGPYNN]

The Lynch Super V is the most balanced of them all.

[surfnorthwest1]

Jensen won this to my ears

[Timzsk8]

Alnico Blue - 1:25 Alnico - 1:38 Vintage 30 - 2:42

[jcshirke]

Love the shootouts, but no Webers??

[ElectromaticG5120]

Very handy video. I would have liked to hear clean tones too. It's very hard to find clean tones; it seems everyone wants to shred with their gear :-)

[SoundMaker43]

The Eminence speakers have a really "dark" sound.

I dislike it ...

I loved Jensen and Celestion :)

[fend14]

Hi Rivera,

I hear LOTS of good things about the Jensen Blackbird, big bottom, smooth and thick, smooth highs, etc. yet it sounds pretty bad here, how come ?

thanks !

[franciserenata]

celestion gold....

[Funkussionist]

If the amp was indeed set to exactly the same settings then based on these sounds I will continue to play using celestions. To my ears they have a more consistent response across the entire frequency range.

[Timzsk8]

Celestion Vintage 30

[Ilovemyfender2]

Eminence red fang sounded fantastic

[watchtheskies]

hmm seems like the amp was dialed in more for the celestions, which made the eminence seem unnaturally dark,

not a fair comparison imho

[flopmandude]

The celestion blue and gold sounded really nice. Almost the same. In other comparisons people have tried to make them sound really awful. Probably because they didn't break them in.

[stratdem]

the Alnico III pick ups that are in my 2007 highway one sss fender strat

are most certainly the most versatile pick ups fender has made in there

65 years of making guitars hands down!

[BluesHeavy]

That Blue is so warm the gold seems brighter but that could be the case of one lower watt speaker will break up sooner. Jensen was nice mid road the vuntage 30 was wide opened. Most of the Eminence seems to sound like a blanket was thrown over them. the celestions all seemed to cut through nicely. Jensen semmed like the middel ground between the two.

[TadpoleSpook]

Well, hard to know exactly how the test was done. I liked, in somewhat a preference order with the EQ on the amp set and mic placement: The V30, the Red Fang, Celestion Gold, maybe, the Blue, as well, and the G12T-75. I would have to put these 5 to the test with tuned in EQ. Very good test though for 3 1/2 min. Load a 2x12 or 4x12 and all bets are off!

[nylonsteel]

I dug the Redfang and the Vintage 30 the most

[00DirectorsCut00]

Hello, someone can explain what are the difference in terms of sound and power between 4, 8, and 16 oms? (why exist different impedance speaker and amp)

and some suggestion of the correct power of a speaker both for tube 50w head (2 x12 and 4x12 cabinet) and 100w head (2x12 and 4x12 cabinet). ty

[ahyeaman]

@00DirectorsCut00 impedance is like a power rating. 16ohm uses the least and 4 ohm the most, the most popular is 8ohm. can't say theres no difference in sound but it would be too subtle to notice, the character of your amp and speaker itself will shape the tone, not the ohmage of the speaker.

2nd question, its a 50w head, even its class A, meaning louder than solid state 50W, you should/can use a speaker of atleast 50w, i would recomend more than 50 b/c the tone on a 50 will break up earlier.

[00DirectorsCut00]

@ahyeaman thank you very much :)

[dnpqkc]

Hard to say which is best. One thing is for sure - that black mountain sounds terrible. My favs are probably the Gold, the V30, and I like the highs on the blue but the bass sounds muddy to me for some reason. I Actually like the Jensen too. I really want to like the fang, but it sounds kinda raspy or something. I hated the scum65. Wish someone would do one of these with less gain - more of a classic rock sound than that preamp fizziness.

[mKreifeldt]

The worst to my ear was the celestion 75w...sounds like I remembered them; like its made out of plastic. The black mountain sounded just plain weird, the Jensen was awefull bright and hollow. The better sounding ones to me where the celestion gold, Scumback 65 w was also pretty throaty. I don't care for that kind of guitar sound but it was definately good for highlighting the tonality of these speakers. Very unsettling how much the speaker actually dictates the tone of the amp!

[joeytruelove]

@mKreifeldt You got a good point there. E.g. the Blackbird is kind of out of its element here, I think. That speaker makes thin sound fat - so what happens if you feed fat with fat...? There can be too much of a good thing, I guess.

[xHUMANFRIDGEx]

lol he fucked up on the one speaker lol

[CMajor5th]

Vintage 30's hands down, they are way more dynamic than all of the other ones put together.

[RockaRollaZombie]

1) Celestion Gold/Blue

2) Jensen Blackbird

3) Eminence Red Fang

[Riveraprod]

We sell Celestions on valveamplification with a break in procedure using an oscillator. use 1234 for the coupon code for a discount

[jsm355]

Speaker Quality and Preference is what it's all about .

For me .... An EVM-12S guy ... the Celetion V-30 Ceramic / 60w

and the Celestion G12T-75 Ceramic / 75w sounded best .

But this is preference to MY EARS . We all hear differently at different stages in

in our playing . keep this in mind . I have NO arguement w/ any one in this regard .

[Luke650]

1. Celestion Gold

2. Vintage 30

3. Celestion Blue

[GuitarRocks23455]

for me it has to be the Vintage 30's. They sound more open and not like theres a pillow over it it, second would be the Celestion gold.

[bootlegapples]

Nice demo.Thanks for creating/posting.I'm a fan of alnico speakers and this was helpful.

[bonesighnyc]

Thanks for the shootout! I find myself liking the Celestions the best.

[fluff191]

You guys are the only ones on the net doing speaker demos of this quality. Thank you!

[deadman316]

I appreciate these speaker demos, keep'em comin. I like the one u did with the metal drop tuned tone comparisons, more like that please. As for this Demo...

1. Vintage 30s

2. Red Fang

3. G12T-75

[Mastersonics]

Paul Jr.

Thanks for doing these important and informative shootouts.

My Top 3 Choices are: (With the Compression of You Tube)

1. Celestion Gold

2. Scumback Scumnico

3. Celestion Vintage 30

cheers,

C