Good advice to all the straight pagan/wiccan guys out there. I for one wish there were more of them. Be strong guys and know that not all the women are out to hound you with intense feminism. ;) YAY for equality and balance!
Very nice video, brava! I remember very early in my Pagan path a very feminist woman being shocked that I worshiped the Goddess and was a man. Other than that one time, I haven't experienced any Pagan sexism. Personally, I find the balence of the Goddess and the Gods useful, however the main thing is that it works for the person whether they are male or femaled, black, white, gay,straight, or whatever. Yeah orthopraxy!
@DancingRabbit52 exactly! I've met some feminists who are in full support of the Goddess, but only feel the need to ask for the God's help 8 times a year and I find that disrespectful, to the craft, to the theology and to balance. I am over half-way through your book! Still need to do my reviews on it!! So far I love it!! =] x
@shazzypbear I would go a step beyond. I think that for some people or some people during a certain parts of their life, the Goddess may fill all of their spiritual needs. If their path works for them, who am I to say that it's wrong, and I don't think the God feels disrespected. While Dianic paths are not orthodox Wicca, they seem to work for some people.
On the book... thanks! no hurry. In your review focus on the parts that you especially like or find useful.
And please don't go and say "clearly your not in touch with the masculine side" to gay men and women, unless they were trying to be offensive first. You might start some destructive fires with that one :) But great video all the same:)
but I think, even straight men should try to find a balance too, and become in touch with the feminine side within them. Doesn't make then gay, but will bring likely bring a sense of balance. And even if you are a straight male, you can still be a feminist. Being feminist doesn't mean being feminine, it just means fighting for equity amoung all the sexes.
@witchweek true. A lot of the guys who had written to me have worked with the Goddess an awful lot, which was why they wrote to me asking what they could do for the God. Most books will stress the importance of the Goddess and that's fine, but how many books stress the importance of both male and female energies, and how many for just the God? I love being a strident feminist =] Thanks x
You raise an excellent point. Exclusive worship of the Goddess is just as spiritually imbalanced as the habit of rejecting the divine feminine that one finds in many mainstream interpretations of the Abrahamic traditions. Each of us brings a staggering amount of baggage into our spiritual pursuits, and I understand that many practitioners may have to work through various gender issues before they can embrace a fuller interpretation of divinity; but I'm of the opinion that...
Great points as usual!The Pagan wheel of the year stresses the birth and death of the male son (temporary) of the eternal female.The Mother/Wife Divine remains constant while the male wanes and waxes,or is killed/sacrificed to renew the Earth;he's reborn at Spring and slain again at Autumn/Midwinter.No need to feel partisan/sexist/left out,as both parties are distinctly important to the Pagan cycle,instead of the monotheist verson that has mostly removed the female sacred from the equation.
@JeremyPagan94 I still haven't finished it! I need to do a review sooo badly because DancingRabbit52 is one voice for our modern witches. We need more role models and such. We are both late! Detention lol! =]
lol , i can so resonate with this video, (when i was wiccan) , i kinda felt corned with homosexuals to my right and women to my left (no i am not homophobic or sexist and i am not gay) , also the only male wiccans i knew were all gay, but yea i love this video :D
@MysticWitch96 time for a shift, plus its the new year, new topics to talk about. I love everyone I meet, but as soon as I stop and look at something that isn't fair I have to ask and wonder why. I'm a curious leo.
Brilliant video! Great information for the male audience! It is so great that you have done this because I think a lot of (especially young) males get quite lost when growing up in all areas of life as there tends not to be much support for them. Many of them feel embarrassed to seek any support offered as well so Youtube is a great way of getting the information to them! Thank you for doing this.
@lengkitten I hope it will help in the long run. I've only seen a few other male wiccans, and sadly there aren't as many as there are women. The Goddess needs the God and vice versa. =]
Love the video but I love all your videos lots of info in them! And I know I am not gay at all! and I am wiccan I don't get why people think if you are a male and into wicca you have to be gay... Buy not that I have seen this video I guess that why people think I am gay and that's lame! And look at Tom crises played a vampir and they called him gay we all know hes not I wish people would open there eyes but that might be asking to much
@envyisasin I hope I didn't offend... but it's something I knew needed to be highlighted. I know it sounds way too odd to infringe beliefs on another person, but when it comes to equality I would like people to know they are equal... does that make sense? Men are a diverse group and they too should be celebrated =]
Gardiner may have been straight but he was rumoured to be homophobic. Lois Bourne has been quoted in saying. Gerald was homophobic. He had a deep hatred and detestation of homosexuality, which he regarded as a disgusting perversion and a flagrant transgression of natural law....'There are no homosexual witches, and it is not possible to be a homosexual and a witch' Gerald almost shouted. No one argued with him"
Maybe straight male wiccans could find a more appropriate role model. good video x
@NoOtherAdvice Old Gerald was a child of his times. He insisted at a proper coven consist of heterosexual boy-girl pairings to mirror the Goddess and the God and that 'homosexuals were cursed of the Goddess'. But that was the 1940's. Times have changed. I don't discount his many contributions anymore than I discount the contributions of Washington and Jefferson to democracy because they both owned slaves. They too were children of their time.
@DancingRabbit52 Very true. I do not discount his work. I identified as Wiccan for five years of my life and I was very aware of the contribution his work made to my life. However, for myself at least, I can't refer to him as a role model. He was obviously an influence to me, but not an individual I would seek to connect with. There are other born with and before him for me to connect with that didnt hold these prejudices.On another note, how is your book doing?! :)
@NoOtherAdvice Way of the Horned God sales have been disappointing but I now understand that book sales esp Pagan book sales are usually less than I imagined. I'm working on a 2nd book called Way of the Botanica. Have first 2 chapters in rough draft and still researching. Publication is maybe 2 years away. Several other books in the possibility stage.
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kidmassive18 3 weeks ago
Good advice to all the straight pagan/wiccan guys out there. I for one wish there were more of them. Be strong guys and know that not all the women are out to hound you with intense feminism. ;) YAY for equality and balance!
UrieNanashi 3 weeks ago
I love this video. Also, as a side note, I love xander! He's hot.... in the past.....nevermind, he's still hot.
cloverseverywhere 1 month ago
outstanding advice :)
WICCANKORI62 1 month ago
If ethnicity were a bar to worshipping outside your pantheon,then there would be precious few "real"christians,eh?(Since Jesus was a Jew and all...)
teufelstaub 1 month ago
Lol@ how can you follow a certain path for being black. People are very silly. Love this vid. x
HippieGirlClaire 1 month ago
@HippieGirlClaire I know, but I get it often and it pisses me off lol! I am who I am I'm afraid. =] x x
shazzypbear 1 month ago
Very nice video, brava! I remember very early in my Pagan path a very feminist woman being shocked that I worshiped the Goddess and was a man. Other than that one time, I haven't experienced any Pagan sexism. Personally, I find the balence of the Goddess and the Gods useful, however the main thing is that it works for the person whether they are male or femaled, black, white, gay,straight, or whatever. Yeah orthopraxy!
DancingRabbit52 1 month ago
@DancingRabbit52 exactly! I've met some feminists who are in full support of the Goddess, but only feel the need to ask for the God's help 8 times a year and I find that disrespectful, to the craft, to the theology and to balance. I am over half-way through your book! Still need to do my reviews on it!! So far I love it!! =] x
shazzypbear 1 month ago
@shazzypbear I would go a step beyond. I think that for some people or some people during a certain parts of their life, the Goddess may fill all of their spiritual needs. If their path works for them, who am I to say that it's wrong, and I don't think the God feels disrespected. While Dianic paths are not orthodox Wicca, they seem to work for some people.
On the book... thanks! no hurry. In your review focus on the parts that you especially like or find useful.
DancingRabbit52 1 month ago
And please don't go and say "clearly your not in touch with the masculine side" to gay men and women, unless they were trying to be offensive first. You might start some destructive fires with that one :) But great video all the same:)
witchweek 1 month ago
but I think, even straight men should try to find a balance too, and become in touch with the feminine side within them. Doesn't make then gay, but will bring likely bring a sense of balance. And even if you are a straight male, you can still be a feminist. Being feminist doesn't mean being feminine, it just means fighting for equity amoung all the sexes.
witchweek 1 month ago
@witchweek true. A lot of the guys who had written to me have worked with the Goddess an awful lot, which was why they wrote to me asking what they could do for the God. Most books will stress the importance of the Goddess and that's fine, but how many books stress the importance of both male and female energies, and how many for just the God? I love being a strident feminist =] Thanks x
shazzypbear 1 month ago
You raise an excellent point. Exclusive worship of the Goddess is just as spiritually imbalanced as the habit of rejecting the divine feminine that one finds in many mainstream interpretations of the Abrahamic traditions. Each of us brings a staggering amount of baggage into our spiritual pursuits, and I understand that many practitioners may have to work through various gender issues before they can embrace a fuller interpretation of divinity; but I'm of the opinion that...
CraftingMyAscent 1 month ago
@CraftingMyAscent
...as an ideal, one should strive for a healthy relationship with both masculine and feminine energies.
CraftingMyAscent 1 month ago
@CraftingMyAscent exactly!
shazzypbear 1 month ago
Great points as usual!The Pagan wheel of the year stresses the birth and death of the male son (temporary) of the eternal female.The Mother/Wife Divine remains constant while the male wanes and waxes,or is killed/sacrificed to renew the Earth;he's reborn at Spring and slain again at Autumn/Midwinter.No need to feel partisan/sexist/left out,as both parties are distinctly important to the Pagan cycle,instead of the monotheist verson that has mostly removed the female sacred from the equation.
teufelstaub 1 month ago
@teufelstaub exactly!
shazzypbear 1 month ago
Are you a Wiccan? I thought you were eclectic.
stars11234 1 month ago
@stars11234 not wiccan, just a buddhist witch. It was a question that came up a lot from a load of guys wanting advice and tips via email =]
shazzypbear 1 month ago
Don't you dare redo this one! Anyone that actually gets angry really has issues Sy ..
CrystalsMusings 1 month ago
@CrystalsMusings I just worry... brought up to 'Be a good girl' kinda messed up my social skills. =]
shazzypbear 1 month ago
Thanks :), this was really helpful. ;D
WERK2313 1 month ago
@WERK2313 glad it helped in some way =]
shazzypbear 1 month ago
I really liked The Ways of the Horned God by Dancing Rabbit, though I have to finish it because I owe him a video book report lol.
JeremyPagan94 1 month ago
@JeremyPagan94 I still haven't finished it! I need to do a review sooo badly because DancingRabbit52 is one voice for our modern witches. We need more role models and such. We are both late! Detention lol! =]
shazzypbear 1 month ago
lol , i can so resonate with this video, (when i was wiccan) , i kinda felt corned with homosexuals to my right and women to my left (no i am not homophobic or sexist and i am not gay) , also the only male wiccans i knew were all gay, but yea i love this video :D
MysticWitch96 1 month ago
@MysticWitch96 time for a shift, plus its the new year, new topics to talk about. I love everyone I meet, but as soon as I stop and look at something that isn't fair I have to ask and wonder why. I'm a curious leo.
shazzypbear 1 month ago
Brilliant video! Great information for the male audience! It is so great that you have done this because I think a lot of (especially young) males get quite lost when growing up in all areas of life as there tends not to be much support for them. Many of them feel embarrassed to seek any support offered as well so Youtube is a great way of getting the information to them! Thank you for doing this.
lengkitten 1 month ago
@lengkitten I hope it will help in the long run. I've only seen a few other male wiccans, and sadly there aren't as many as there are women. The Goddess needs the God and vice versa. =]
shazzypbear 1 month ago
Sorry that buy should be but and not should be now
envyisasin 1 month ago
Love the video but I love all your videos lots of info in them! And I know I am not gay at all! and I am wiccan I don't get why people think if you are a male and into wicca you have to be gay... Buy not that I have seen this video I guess that why people think I am gay and that's lame! And look at Tom crises played a vampir and they called him gay we all know hes not I wish people would open there eyes but that might be asking to much
envyisasin 1 month ago
@envyisasin I hope I didn't offend... but it's something I knew needed to be highlighted. I know it sounds way too odd to infringe beliefs on another person, but when it comes to equality I would like people to know they are equal... does that make sense? Men are a diverse group and they too should be celebrated =]
shazzypbear 1 month ago
Great video.
EuphoricImpact 1 month ago
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NoOtherAdvice 1 month ago
Fucked up.... shall delete and try again.
shazzypbear 1 month ago
the thrice great isn't a man silly. he is all men. the all man! ...what was the third one?
Finit3z 1 month ago
@Finit3z yeah, true and (even though it was disproved) Moses too. =] Ta
shazzypbear 1 month ago
Gardiner may have been straight but he was rumoured to be homophobic. Lois Bourne has been quoted in saying. Gerald was homophobic. He had a deep hatred and detestation of homosexuality, which he regarded as a disgusting perversion and a flagrant transgression of natural law....'There are no homosexual witches, and it is not possible to be a homosexual and a witch' Gerald almost shouted. No one argued with him"
Maybe straight male wiccans could find a more appropriate role model. good video x
NoOtherAdvice 1 month ago
@NoOtherAdvice Old Gerald was a child of his times. He insisted at a proper coven consist of heterosexual boy-girl pairings to mirror the Goddess and the God and that 'homosexuals were cursed of the Goddess'. But that was the 1940's. Times have changed. I don't discount his many contributions anymore than I discount the contributions of Washington and Jefferson to democracy because they both owned slaves. They too were children of their time.
DancingRabbit52 1 month ago
@DancingRabbit52 Very true. I do not discount his work. I identified as Wiccan for five years of my life and I was very aware of the contribution his work made to my life. However, for myself at least, I can't refer to him as a role model. He was obviously an influence to me, but not an individual I would seek to connect with. There are other born with and before him for me to connect with that didnt hold these prejudices.On another note, how is your book doing?! :)
NoOtherAdvice 1 month ago
@NoOtherAdvice Way of the Horned God sales have been disappointing but I now understand that book sales esp Pagan book sales are usually less than I imagined. I'm working on a 2nd book called Way of the Botanica. Have first 2 chapters in rough draft and still researching. Publication is maybe 2 years away. Several other books in the possibility stage.
DancingRabbit52 1 month ago
Great Video, thanks for sharing. it's very helpful,and useful for me, really...=D
Blessed be!
Wiccaandpaganboy 1 month ago
@Wiccaandpaganboy I hope so...
shazzypbear 1 month ago