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  • This is disgusting!

    Muhammad was a mass murderer,rapist & robber.Nuestra gente don't need to follow the examples set by the psychopath Muhammad (sallalahu aleyhi wa sallam) & his demonic deity,Allah (subhana wa ta'ala)

  • @TheScorpio29 Dude so we should be Christians and be divided into groups go to a church bro and see how they got hispanos in one room and anglos in another yeah man christianity is all about brotherhood whatever man Iza Aleikum Salam was a muslim and the Prophet muhammad SAW is the last and seal of the prophets all i can say is salam aleikum to you Islam and Spanish culture used to be one and the same to deny islam is to deny yourself

  • @CINTERPOL

    If you want to see real racism,then visit Sudan or Mauritania.Arabs still own black slaves & continue to commit genocide against blacks in these countries.

    Owning & trading black slaves is a sunnah,as there are many examples in the hadith.

    So it does not bother you that Muhammad was a mass murderer,serial rapist & robber? You still think that psycho is the best example to follow.I know Islam better than you.Muhammad was the most evil person that walked this planet.

    Salaam

  • @TheScorpio29

    i dont think anyone here has imposed their beliefs on you bro the thing is you are trying to impose your belief on some other people what if others dont believe what you say? then they are wrong. If people dont believe you leave em be dont dedicate your life to putting down other peoples believes focus on yourself, live and let live man. If you are a ex muslim then just walk away from islam completely and live your life man nobodys putting pressure on you to comeback

  • @CINTERPOL

    Firstly,I'm not imposing my beliefs on anyone...Islam is.

    Quran 9:29

    Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”

  • @CINTERPOL

    where in the Quran does it say "live & let live"?

    Islam is all about fighting unbelievers,humiliating them & making them pay jizyah,which is an extortion fee.Muslims preach peace when they're a minority but look how muslims treat non-muslims in Islamic countries.

    Muhammad was the same,he preached peace & tolerance when he was in Mecca & had few followers but after the hijra to Yathrib,his followers increased & then he abandoned peace & slaughtered everyone who disagrees with him

  • @TheScorpio29 Than humiliate me and call me stupid man I am muslim and according to you I am as you say a tyrant i just have this to Say my friend SALAM ALEIKUM i read hadith of bukhari and the man described there is a peaceful, insightful and quiet man who suffered lots and sacrificed even more to you he is evil and a tyrant to me is a beloved prophet and a guide to humanity. I bet they called prophet Iza all kinds of things during his time too.

  • @CINTERPOL

    Yes,people insulted Nabi Isa (saw),but nowhere in the Injeel did he ever have people assassinated that satirized & mocked him,only Muhammad did this.

    Bukhari 5:59:370 Narrated Al-Bara bin Azib:

    Allah's Apostle sent a group of persons to Abu Rafi. Abdullah bin Atik entered his house at night, while he was sleeping, and killed him. "

  • @TheScorpio29 I also feel very happy that you can read the Quran in original arabic(and can understand it fully) and that you get all your information from ex muslims which just further your ignorance to be honest if i wanted to study a book on how to stop drinking alcohol i would not read a book written by an alcoholic. If you have hatred for muslims go ahead and get it out man im not here to judge. do your hateful thing man take your best shot. Read Said Nursi, Jal al Rumi then come back

  • @CINTERPOL

    Read Said Nursi?

    No mi pana,I read the Quran,Bukhari,Muslim & Abu Dawd's Hadiz & Sirat Rasul,original Islamic sources not from some mullah & his taqiyah.

    The Quran is even worse in arabic ie. more violent & absurd.For eg. in Quran 4:34 says that men can beat their wives if they're disobedient.But translators like Yusuf Ali & M.Khan interjected the words lightly in brackets.Nowhere in the arabic translations does the word lightly appear.It just says "beat them".

  • @CINTERPOL

    @CINTERPOL

    You said Muhammad was peaceful.Buddy try reading Bukhari again.Muhammad butchered almost 900 jews from Banu Quraiza & took their women as sex slaves & sold their children into slavery.The details are in Bukhari vol.4 bk.52

    The Quran also mentions this in sura Al-Azhab:26 And those of the People of the Book(ie.Jews) who aided them - Allah did take them down from their strongholds and cast terror into their hearts. (So that) some ye slew, and some ye made prisoners. "

  • @TheScorpio29 so this is easy im just gonna start talking about the atrocities of the catholic church and everything that was done in the name of god . Im just going to forget about all the wrong missionaries did in the new world the degradation and sexual deviance that a lot of christian leaders have made. Yeah im not gonna do that its too easy. Iza was a muslim and spoke arameic he spoke about ahmad he came and despite his disadvantage dealing with arabs he completed his mission

  • @CINTERPOL

    The so-called atrocities committed by the catholic church was borrowed from islamic practices & incoherent with the teachings of Christ.Martin Luther & the protestant reformation stripped the catholic church of most of it's non-christian teachings.

    Muslims on the other hand commit atrocities that are prescribed by the Quran.Muslims become psychopaths to the degree that they emulate Muhammad.No Christian in the Bible was a criminal,unlike your rasul & his sahaba.

  • @TheScorpio29 Cool story bro lol im just having a field day

  • @CINTERPOL

    Sexual deviance?

    Show me where in the Bible any Christian has committed a sex crime?Muhammad was 54 when he had sex with 9 year old Ayesha.Not to mention his 13 wives & dozens of sex slaves that were captured in his raids.

    Why on earth would you trade Jesus for that psychopath Muhammad.Why not become a Buddhist or agnostic or join any other faith.All religions are spiritually superior to Islam because it's the only religion founded by a thug.

  • @TheScorpio29 I havent traded jesus brah i still read the bible lol buddhism agnosticism so you are telling me that god isnt sufficient even for you and you recognize buddha as god, to be honest with you i found muslims to be extremely backwards in terms of of formulating their own opinion im here arguing in a silly way the thing about an ideology is that its formulated in faith which is different. Im not the type of muslim that deviates from modern society im very much my own person.

  • @CINTERPOL

    I recognize Buddha as a wise philosopher.Buddha never said he was a god,neither did he believe in the existence of a god.One of my favorite Buddha quotes is...doubt everything & find your own light!

    You said you love your rasul for bringing the Quran.Tell me what love is there in the Qur'an.It's a cruel & absurd book.That book's nothing but a terrorist manual.

    I've read the Qur'an many times & it's completely void of spiritual teachings.

  • @TheScorpio29

    man you can read it as many times as you can and you'll never find anything once the prejudice takes over its pretty much over all you can do is hate

  • @CINTERPOL

    I don't hate muslims.I see muslims as the primary victims of Islam.I hate Islam because it divides mankind into believers & unbelievers & teaches Muslims to fight the unbelievers,be harsh towards them,humiliate & subdue them.

    Look at the last two surahs that were revealed...surah Al-Maeda & At-Taubah.They are all about warfare.These two surahs abrogates every so-called peaceful & tolerant verse revealed.This was the legacy of Muhammad.

  • @TheScorpio29 when Iza comes back well see each other again Inshallah and see whos who

  • @CINTERPOL

    Did you know that Muhammad slept with Safiyah the same day he killed her brothers,uncles & father.Yes he married her but did she have a choice ?And what woman will sleep with a man that just killed all her male relatives?

    The details are in Sirat Rasul Allah (Biography of the Prophet) page 766

  • @TheScorpio29 Lot slept with his daughters bro did you know that and did you know kind dawud went over something along the line of 100 women or more he kept divorcing them. All of them have some baggage the thing is they lived in different times i cant believe you havent cited Aisha being 9 years old everyone always does. Anyways i love razulluh llah because he brought me the quran at the end of the day he is just a man and i dont worship him i worship allah the one god iza as did too

  • @CINTERPOL

    Firstly,Lot was not a follower of Christ,he's just a character in the OT.Christians follow the teachings & examples of Christ.

    2ndly,How does that justify 54 year old Muhammad sleeping with 9 year old Ayesha?

    Muhammad was supposed to be an excellent example to follow but he only partook in evil practices like pedophilia.

    How can Allah be God if he chose a person like Muhammad with such low morals for a divine messenger & final prophet.

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  • @TheScorpio29 Each culture is different Arabs are different people then are americans you cant be close minded and expect everyone to follow your judeo christian values. In the middle east people marry their cousins and poor people marry young also in hot climates young women develop faster.q

  • @CINTERPOL

    You said:..and poor people marry young also in hot climates young women develop faster.

    Firstly,Muhammad was not poor.He raided many caravans,looted many jewish towns & traded slavesThe Quran & Hadith condones taking spoils.Surah48:20 Allah promiseth you much booty that ye will capture.Allah gave as spoil unto His messenger (59:6).

    Anyone who has killed an enemy and has a proof of that, will posses his spoils Bukhari 4:53:370

    *spoils/booty = plunder enemies possessions

  • @TheScorpio29

    Hey scorpio take it easy my friend im done lol im sick of all the bs involved with religion Back to my first and utmost devotion philosophy music and law. Man dont take it too seriously man you are fighting a current specially with muslims damn some of them are pig headed believe me take it ez brah

  • @TheScorpio29 I think true christianism is Gnosticism you should go to egypt and learn about all the gosppels not only luke and johns and matthews only then can you be a christian oh i forgot the catholic church destroyed them all for their controversial views on christ . Like when christ said im not god or the son of god oops

  • @CINTERPOL

    I don't believe every one should follow judeo-christian principles.You can be an atheist,agnostic,Buddhist,etc. & still make the world a better place but not Islam.The more you emulate Muhammad the more Islam will rob you of your humanity & you will literally hate everyone that's not muslim because that's how Muhammad was.He had no compassion for kafirs.

  • @TheScorpio29 why are you arguing when you do not know? muhammed pbuh left nothing for his offspring ,no castle no kingdom no treasure.

  • @TheScorpio29 Man dude i thank you in all honesty for reminding me why i made the right choice to be honest with you my community doesnt deal with muslims we are sufi and deal more with other christians and jews and try to come together in peace. We are not the type that dresses like they are ancient arabs and when a person converts its not like they become arab lol we are moderate and we love dialogue like this that isnt detrimental to furthering our perspective of other people.

  • @CINTERPOL

    Here's one main overiding reason why Islam is spiritually corrupt.It is the only religion that does not recognize the Golden Rule.

    The Golden Rule is an infallible moral yardstick that even an atheist can use.

    "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

    Sounds simple but it's the most superior moral guide,absolutely nothing can beat it.

  • @TheScorpio29 hey scorpio im done with religion all of it lol you didnt win though is just as i further progress through my higher education i see its pointless its an outdated institution that provided services for a juvenile society. For the arabs it was islam hebrews Judaism for convert jews to christianity a community. buddhism does the same they all respond to a need. What we need now is tolerance and understanding I think i have deep set beliefs on the economic market now lol toodles

  • @CINTERPOL

    Yes,you're correct.We need tolerance & understanding BUT muslims never tolerate others where Islam is the majority.Muslims only seek interfaith dialogues when they are a minority.Muhammad did the same in Mecca when he had less than 100 followers,but after the hijra to Yathrib he became a beast because his followers increased to thousands.

  • LAILAHA ILA ALLAH MOHAMED RASOUL ALLAH (sala allah alayhi wa salam)

  • Religion existed before the tribe of Judea, and people who followed the teaching of God existed before that tribe as well. Therefore, muslims (ones who submit), existed before Jewdaism.

  • ???? A very common lie for internal muslim consumption. You have to have a very poor view of yourself to use those types of arguments.

  • With all due respect, either you are a mexican with a very poor knowledge of spanish or you are another lying muslim as we are used to find in this places. Con todo respeto, o eres mexicana y has tenido muchas dificultades con tu educación. Se escribe "felicito", "razonable", "haber", "decidido", "cierto", "dices", "he dado cuenta" o sos otro musulmán mintiendo como tantos otros que se encuentran en este foro.

  • I just wanna say sumthing in Islam no one should b killed if theyre not Muslim only God can take a life of a soul. Mohammad (PBUH) respected the Jews and Christians in his time. Yes, he did try 2 show them the light, yet it was their peronal choice whether 2 convert or not. So, whoever thinks they are killing nonmuslims for the sake of Allah, they are wrong and will be punished!

  • in the koran it sais jews are pigs stop fooling yourself.

  • @ADRIANR2D where does it say jews are pigs in the Holy Quran?

  • @amuslima99

    FUCK RELIIGION

  • Returned? LOL. José María Aznar looks like a full-blooded Morrocan Berber, so do most of the Spaniard people.

  • Mash-Allah Soy muy feliz de averiguar que hay muchos conversos hispanos a la religión de Islam. La religión de la Verdad. Espero allí hace la abundancia más conversos de musulmán de fondos hispanos así como fondos norteamericanos africanos. Soy sinceramente feliz de oír esto. Dios es Muy Compasivo y sólo Dios indica a personas a la Verdad. As'sallam wallikum.

  • asalamu alikum my dear brothers and sisters i sincerly hope you the best and to my new bro's\sis in faith you guys are a specciel kind you have done so much serching and im shure allah will elevate you to a specciel grade in the hearafter.

  • I am in America and can leave Islam whenever i feel like it, but im not because i love my

    Islam

  • i feel so proud to be muslin and spanish

  • many Hispanics are coming back to Islam.

    After 1492, Spanish Muslims in Spain were forced out from their own country to settle in Morocco and Tunisia. thousands were killed, and those who stayed in Spain were forced to convert to Christianity.

    may Allah bless our Brothers and sisters from the Hispanic community. Ameen

  • No justification for the Spanish's wrong doing but how did the muslims get there in the first place? You said it was their own country, how is that? How did Islam spread so quicky? By the sword as well?

  • @ahmedalimam Ok. You are talking about the " expulsion de los moriscos" in 1609, some of there were killed,thats true,but were? and ho? the berebers pirates did it,a lot of people wen to the coast of north africa to "recive" them and kill them to take all the gold and value things from them. a lot of them ho survived came in secret back to spain. Some of there were forced to be christians and stayed in spain..so they had a much better life.

  • im thinking of convertin 2

  • may God guide you to Islam, the correct way, inshaAllah. I reverted too. If you have questions, hit me up and maybe I can help, InshaAllah.

  • ahahah!! what a pitiful way to bash Islam!! that is so not true!! maybe that experience was unique to your friend but never in the Quran Allah said that you will be killed because you were not muslim. i have many many many friends that became muslim and vener wishes to go back to whatever they believed. actually they are sorry for the wrongs they have been fed.

  • I have friends living in Morocco and they tell me the same, if you apostate from Islam you get killed. More than 24 muslim countries have penalties for apostacy that goes from jail to death.

  • Why did you get a thumbs down?

  • apostasy in islam doesnt give death penalty even tho it is punishment in saudi arabia and iran I think. other than that there is none.

    country law != religious law

  • that is wrong on behalf of the Turks, the Quran says "there is no compulsion in religion, the truth is clear from error"(2-256). Anyone who is truly Muslims and knows his faith will never want to leave Islam and it can't be forced on people, but some people r ignorant.

  • It may be wrong but it's a very common practise in muslim communities...

  • those people are talking real about there real feelings not saying that for just talking .. can u see this ? it's light of oneness of ALLAH

  • Manshaallah may allah bless our Brothers and sisters from the Hispanic community. Ameen

  • is there any mosque in maracaibo Zulia? i called alrauda mosque but it seems doesn't exist any more!

  • thanks

  • May Allah bless our hispanic brothers and sister.

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