@Vegemighty It baffles me when Republicans use Star Trek, one of the most exuberantly left-wing franchises there is, as an example in favor of their points of view.
You could also say that the Borg are Fate or Destiny to the Enterprise's Chance or Luck. They are implacable, 'inescapable' and conformist, while the Enterprise is looking at this "from the mosquito's point of view" and by hook or by crook foil the Borg's design.
Sure you can convolute parallels with any regime you see as expansionist but I don't think that's the point. The borg were conjured up simply as a new adversary that does not have simple easily recognisable 'human' military goals like the Cards, Klingons, Romulans.. etc and this makes them more terrifying.
A group the federation would have to fight and could never bargain with.
@CmdrTobs Dunno I think a lot of the races in star trek have political examples. Starfleet (especially in the old star trek) is meant to reflect liberal western democracies. The Romulans are the Roman Empire which is elitist, purist and justifies war for the greater good. The Vulcans reflect an Indian/Buddhist culture focused on enlightenment and the removal of desire/suffering. The Klingons are the vikings, living their lives by a war morality, full of myths and conquests.
@CmdrTobs The Borg are communists, focused on constant material production and forced equality. The Dominion are Nazi fascists, where shape-shifters are the master race who see solids as a burden to be incorporated as slave races or wiped out. Ferengi = laissez faire class-based capitalism. Cardassians I would say are like the warlike regimes in Serbia or Burma, occupying territories under the supervision of warlords. Meh, dunno but it was quite fun thinking of examples.
Being borg is quite boring, most of the time when you are not in battle you just stand still doing NOTHING!! all the time. Just a few borgs drones are allowed to walk around upgrading or repairing the ship (or cube). Besides all others implants In the Assimilation process they also put you an anal/urethral prove to prevent you shitting and pissing.
Turning everyone into an automaton is the Borg's idea of "raising the quality of life". Except it only raises the quality of Borg life. Everyone else is royally screwed.
@HalfTangible Yes but then only the Borg would exist & there would be very little-if any-nonBorg life in the galaxy. & since the Borg "raise the quality of (their own)life" by forcibly assimilating people regardless of whether those people want to be Borg or not, those who are assimilated are royally screwed since they most likely do not see being a Borg as having any quality of life.
@HalfTangible No they won't, not for a while, because even though they are assimilated they are still aware of what's going on. If you saw the TNG episode "Family" you see that even though they are assimilated, they are aware of what is happening & still know who they are & they are not truly Borg until after a while when they've forgotten who they used to be. Assimilation is used to "raise the Borg's quality of life" at the expense of their victims who are turned into Borg.
@Lizfan2 You were the one who said that the quality of life is raised for Borg. (the video said 'all species' and you stipulated that that was wrong, and that it only raised it for Borg)
@HalfTangible Because it IS wrong & it is only raised for the Borg. I wasn't implying that raising "quality of life" for the Borg is a positive thing. I probably should have put that in quotes in my original comment.
@HalfTangible & the only reason that the assimilated see being a Borg as having an improved quality of life is due to their being forcibly programmed to see it that way. Take away the hive mind control, give the Borg drones back their individuality & almost all of them would choose to leave the Collective forever.
@Lizfan2 Well, technically the hive acts a single organism spread out over many individuals. Individuals have no free will of their own, and the closest they have to that free will would be the queen of a hive. But there's no word that's particularly accurate for whatever that organism's mind is, so i just refer to it as the guiding intellect.
(heh heh. Two conversations at once ^^ funny for some reason.)
Worf was lucky locutus did not use that nipple-pincher claw on him!
larodem 2 weeks ago
Correction, Locutus OWNS worf
Blastaar7 2 weeks ago
"I like my speeeecies the way it is!!" hahah. that line is classic Worf :D
Dippers85 1 month ago
Getting assimilated is all fun and games until they cut off your hands for advanced scanners and data binders.
sagequan 2 months ago 5
so the Borg are like democrats and the klingons are republican. Explains a lot actually
Vegemighty 3 months ago
@Vegemighty It baffles me when Republicans use Star Trek, one of the most exuberantly left-wing franchises there is, as an example in favor of their points of view.
Dekuscrubby 1 month ago
@Vegemighty lol, I was thinking the same thing!
DireWeevil 1 month ago
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LOL The Borg are like the US army in Iraq - "why do you resist? We only want to improve quality of life." Star Trek was so often ahead of its time.
Catandthespoon 3 months ago
Great line by Worf. "I like my SPECIES the way it is".
CMack28 4 months ago 4
Steward seems to have enjoyed this role, his face is about to crack a smile all the time xD
BljesakiOluja 4 months ago
You could also say that the Borg are Fate or Destiny to the Enterprise's Chance or Luck. They are implacable, 'inescapable' and conformist, while the Enterprise is looking at this "from the mosquito's point of view" and by hook or by crook foil the Borg's design.
VioletSadi 4 months ago 2
I was hoping Worf was going to say assimilate this. Then punches him.
Yasuda9000 4 months ago
The klingon empire with NEVER YIELD! I love how Worf says that.
smitty5ca 4 months ago
The borg are a critique of communism.
LoneRookRS1 5 months ago
@LoneRookRS1 I don't think so.
Sure you can convolute parallels with any regime you see as expansionist but I don't think that's the point. The borg were conjured up simply as a new adversary that does not have simple easily recognisable 'human' military goals like the Cards, Klingons, Romulans.. etc and this makes them more terrifying.
A group the federation would have to fight and could never bargain with.
CmdrTobs 4 months ago
@CmdrTobs Dunno I think a lot of the races in star trek have political examples. Starfleet (especially in the old star trek) is meant to reflect liberal western democracies. The Romulans are the Roman Empire which is elitist, purist and justifies war for the greater good. The Vulcans reflect an Indian/Buddhist culture focused on enlightenment and the removal of desire/suffering. The Klingons are the vikings, living their lives by a war morality, full of myths and conquests.
LoneRookRS1 4 months ago
@CmdrTobs The Borg are communists, focused on constant material production and forced equality. The Dominion are Nazi fascists, where shape-shifters are the master race who see solids as a burden to be incorporated as slave races or wiped out. Ferengi = laissez faire class-based capitalism. Cardassians I would say are like the warlike regimes in Serbia or Burma, occupying territories under the supervision of warlords. Meh, dunno but it was quite fun thinking of examples.
LoneRookRS1 4 months ago
Being borg is quite boring, most of the time when you are not in battle you just stand still doing NOTHING!! all the time. Just a few borgs drones are allowed to walk around upgrading or repairing the ship (or cube). Besides all others implants In the Assimilation process they also put you an anal/urethral prove to prevent you shitting and pissing.
BiohazardCrow 5 months ago
... Creepy.
SamhainTheDark 7 months ago
Name: Worf. Species: Klingon. Rank: Irrelevant. You will be assimilated.
EduardoTVideos 8 months ago 30
Locutus is cool
davidsquall351 9 months ago
What is the name of this episode? I'd like to watch it.
Pugslee3 9 months ago
@Pugslee3 Star Trek:The next Generation's "The Best Of Both Worlds". It's a 2-parter.
Lizfan2 8 months ago
Turning everyone into an automaton is the Borg's idea of "raising the quality of life". Except it only raises the quality of Borg life. Everyone else is royally screwed.
Lizfan2 1 year ago
@Lizfan2 Yes, but then everybody is a Borg. =/ so technically...
HalfTangible 8 months ago
@HalfTangible How is everyone a Borg?
Lizfan2 8 months ago
@Lizfan2 "except it only raises the quality of borg life"
"yes but then everybody 'would be' a borg [if they succeed]"
HalfTangible 8 months ago
@HalfTangible Yes but then only the Borg would exist & there would be very little-if any-nonBorg life in the galaxy. & since the Borg "raise the quality of (their own)life" by forcibly assimilating people regardless of whether those people want to be Borg or not, those who are assimilated are royally screwed since they most likely do not see being a Borg as having any quality of life.
Lizfan2 8 months ago
@Lizfan2 They will once they ARE Borg. Like you said, borg raise the quality of THEIR OWN existence.
HalfTangible 8 months ago
@HalfTangible No they won't, not for a while, because even though they are assimilated they are still aware of what's going on. If you saw the TNG episode "Family" you see that even though they are assimilated, they are aware of what is happening & still know who they are & they are not truly Borg until after a while when they've forgotten who they used to be. Assimilation is used to "raise the Borg's quality of life" at the expense of their victims who are turned into Borg.
Lizfan2 8 months ago
@Lizfan2 THATS THE POINT. They ARE turned into Borg. And when they assimilate, the quality of life is raised for BORG.
HalfTangible 8 months ago
@HalfTangible Except it's not quality of life.
Lizfan2 8 months ago
@Lizfan2 You were the one who said that the quality of life is raised for Borg. (the video said 'all species' and you stipulated that that was wrong, and that it only raised it for Borg)
HalfTangible 8 months ago
@HalfTangible Because it IS wrong & it is only raised for the Borg. I wasn't implying that raising "quality of life" for the Borg is a positive thing. I probably should have put that in quotes in my original comment.
Lizfan2 8 months ago
@Lizfan2 Oh. Ok, that makes more sense.
HalfTangible 8 months ago
@HalfTangible & the only reason that the assimilated see being a Borg as having an improved quality of life is due to their being forcibly programmed to see it that way. Take away the hive mind control, give the Borg drones back their individuality & almost all of them would choose to leave the Collective forever.
Lizfan2 8 months ago
@Lizfan2 Yes. That's what a hive mind does when it loses it's guiding intellect - it falls apart.
HalfTangible 8 months ago
@HalfTangible "Guiding intellect"? I don't know that I would refer to it that way.
Lizfan2 8 months ago
@Lizfan2 Well, technically the hive acts a single organism spread out over many individuals. Individuals have no free will of their own, and the closest they have to that free will would be the queen of a hive. But there's no word that's particularly accurate for whatever that organism's mind is, so i just refer to it as the guiding intellect.
(heh heh. Two conversations at once ^^ funny for some reason.)
HalfTangible 8 months ago
Raise quality of life for all species? Communism? Hmmm?
Rensune 1 year ago
@Rensune
Communists are the borg. It's stupid.
Aethyon 9 months ago
picard scares the crap out of me as a borg. kudos to patrick stewart.
lofthouse23 1 year ago 33
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jayce79 1 year ago