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The first one is obvious, we want to be healthier for longer but the second one is actually more important.
Most people falsely equal technological evolution to human evolution but the fact is that we`re already unable to cope with the complexity of modern life.
Human kinds biggest leap will be when we expand our mental capabilities.
@Psyswitch1983 and why not? You can see how badly we are facking the planet and ourselves in our current form. Letting natural evolution take it's course and MAYBE by chance well evolve into something better... If a rock from outer space doesn't clean earth one more time... In our current times?We need this or else we r facked. This is our only ray of hope we have to survive.
Don't believe me? Go in the woods and survive a month without tools. Good luck!
Singularity Vs. Collapse: the only fight worth betting on in the 21st century. My money is on collapse in the short term (no oil = no growth) and hopefully a 'reboot' which draws exponential tech trends together with the lessons of collapse i.e. we are a thread in the web of life not the overlords of the food chain.
"we cannot fix the problems w/t same thinking in which it was created"
We CAN shift from a money system to a Resource Based Economy. Check out/join thezeitgeistmovement & thevenusproject. READ the FAQ's, watch/listen to the many videos/lectures & join a movement BEYOND politics, poverty & war. I've experienced this life for 62 years & what I see is NOT pretty.
@TRAKKATON, I AGREE WITH YOU AND YOUR EXPRESSED IT VERY WELL. PEOPLE JUST DON'T GET IT. HAARP, TESLA, CERN, SYNTHIA, WAKE UP PEOPLE BEFORE IT'S TO LATE. THE TECHNOLOGY CREATED NOW WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU SOON !!
The high crimes of the banksters actually show that our society is ruled by the worst of the worst.
Selfish fucktards who have no interest whatsoever to plan ahead, except if it's abour power/ control/ their bottom-line.
That's why GeneticsNanotechnologyRobotics will end in a typical risk technology desaster that will make Chernobyl, Gulf of Mexico and Australia's rabbits PALE in comparison. Wakeup people, you're NOT paying attention to what's happening!!!
No, the technological singularity is defined by the moment that you build the first machine that is more intelligent than the smartest human, because that is about the last invention you will ever make. Up until then the technological progress accelerates exponantially, but a singularity is a point in time, not a phase, and it is defined by quality, not quantity. The tool that is used to reach it is irrelevant. BUT (!) science has a tradition to not plan ahead (see: space jun, nukes).
When you begin to understand the implications of what this means it really makes all these banks and governments and corporations look like blinkered fools, squabbling over fiat money like spoilt children fighting over toys.
This is not a unique idea, this IS happening all over the world, more and more people are understanding that this is not science fiction, we CAN do this... Make poverty history? No... make GREED history and poverty will simply cease to exist... gods don't need money.
In 18 mins, this was very well done. However, I really had to disagree with the ending piece about our future evolution path. It is so singular to look just into the 3rd dimension space. We shall become multidimensional and free ourselves from the limits of current 3rd dimension just using our mind and soul. Not a single piece of hardware can beat this.
seaneire, you talk from the perspective of a christian fundamentalist. If you would have an accident and loose a leg or both eyes you would run to the doctor for an implant in a split of a second. So stop this hypocrite attitude and mature yourself. You no longer live in the bronze age. Imagine that in the same way you think now, about 60 years ago, fundamentalists (maybe your grandparents) thought about penicilin.How many times in your life did you take antibiotics?If you didn't, you'd be dead
Tech evolution is must other wise we would be in the dark-age forever. But for those who are scared of the after life will shut there mind to evolution of any sort.
@army503d lol I'm much more afraid of the current life, there are a lot of scary things being developed lately.... and frankly, most people in power i don't really trust..
* Earthcare recognising that Earth is the source of all life (and is possibly itself a living entity — see Gaia theory), that Earth is our valuable home, and that we are a part of Earth, not apart from it. * Peoplecare supporting and helping each other to change to ways of living that do not harm ourselves or the planet, and to develop healthy societies. * Fairshare (or placing limits on consumption) - ensuring that Earth's limited resources are used in ways that are equitable and wise.
If our technologies were more eco-friendly, there would quickly be a manifying effect of balancing in the environment, a positive feedback effect, because Nature is always seeking balance. We seem to think that working with Nature is like trying to be honest in our lives (a nice thing to do). In fact Nature's need for balance is so powerful that once we began seriously to work with true ecological integrity, we would be amazed how our efforts would be reciprocated and amplified by Nature.
Only a radical change of consciousness so that we recognize our sacred role as part of Nature and begin to follow her laws can bring about a new way ahead for Nature and the planet.
Nature is abundant and energetically efficient. The form of motion on which we depend nowadays for building and development is the one that Nature uses to destabilize and break down. Nature uses another form of motion for creating and rebuilding. It is hardly surprising then, that our technology is self-destructive and unsustainable.
incredible lecture!..woah!4ted talks!..and the robot towards the end..kinda scary-the way it wuz bein kicked&trippn over rough terrain-WOW..but still kinda scary cuz im phobic over spiders&those legs make it look like a giant spider
Pseudo Technological and Economic TRENDS of our modern era are the result of human influence on nature not the other way around.
IF YOU ASK ME WHAT I THINK GOD WANTS FROM US:
I WOULD LIST TWO TRENDS WE HAVE YET TO COMBINE:
#1) Permaculture Design: The fundamental course of man is to be the intermediary between nature and innovation using critical thinking to reason between the two.
* ( Permaculture creates the base for government to dissolve and free markets to flourish )
#2) Fee Market Economics: Exponential growth on behalf of creative destruction allowing humans to evolve much more rapidly without the inhibition of government.
Combine these two elements and the trends Juan talks about will no longer matter and evolution of man will redirect into a far more superior being coexisting with nature/God on the most intellectual way.
yet another moron thinking so inside the box...how about, who cares if the dollar crashes? who cares if the dow is worthless? economies are measured by profits, and profit doesn't mean shit. I'd rather measure by quality of life and solidarity. I can grow food in my neighborhood and live through barter. I'm tired of sending my hard work up the chain of wealth.
Isn't Enriquez' idea of "Homo Evolvus" similar to Buckminster Fuller's concept of evolution in his 1981 book "Critical Path"? My memory is that Fuller argued Humanity "owns" the planet and that we need to take responsibility for managing it moving forward. Maybe this idea's time has come?
@irish202 i was about to say that... trully amazing...some time i zip through them, in order to get to the punch line... but not this one... actually watched all of it
What people are not understanding is how the GOV is always going to use anything for WAR and destruction . A lot of people are going to suffer and die because technology .
Any super technology no mater how good your intentions can and will be used for WAR and destruction, It alwasys has and will unfortunetly.
why are people like you posting here? but i guess your right like look the internet is great but on the other hand it alows people like you say stupid shit
The best thing about these new technologies is that by some amazing technological peculiarity only really cool, useful stuff can be invented :)
That is right isn't it?
I mean I'm just assuming that because this guy's whole case for hope is based on the fact that control freaks in power can't put a gun on the Bigdog, can't use robots to further spy on people, can't use brain implants or nanotechnology to subdue and control the masses, can't 'grow' their own slave army/ workforce etc..
Besides for what I believe to be a limited imagination of what technology will almost certainly one day accomplish on your part all I am saying is that it will be a big PARADIGM SHIFT when getting your leg blown off in war no longer means you will never be able to play sports again Instead it will mean you will be able to play sports better than ever before and much more.
I really think you are digging too deep into the semantics of the issue. Your just fiddling with the words enhancement and alteration when in reality there is no clear border between them.
If I was bitten by a radioactive banana and gained all of Superman's power but also became allergic to peanut butter it would seem you wouldn't consider that an enhancement because of one minute draw back.
But you seem to finally be registering what I have been attempting to communicate so its all good.
I always say there is no such thing as science fiction, only not science yet. It is my firm opinion that the ultimate goal that our species should be driving towards is the mental, intellectual, scientific & technological ability to explore extra solar systems thus escaping the confines of our third mall from the sun. To become interconnected with our lust to create, to explore the vast expanses of the galaxy together as one united race. Such is my dream, we are limited only by our imaginations.
And when you're lying on a hospital bed dying from cancer or some virus, will you tell the doctor not to give you any medicine because your body is better than anything they can give you?
I couldn't agree more, the true beauty of science and technology is the notion that we are limited only by our imaginations and our desire to create. It is estimated that by mid century computer processor power will surpass the ability of the human brain, thus the birth of true AI and advanced interconnected virtual reality systems. The realization of fusion power, a new age of cheap and relatively endless power. The advancement of nanotechnology, a brave new world of medical science... Imagine!
Right now, most people who get breast removed due to cancer can't afford to get implants; they can barely afford the surgery in the first place... on the other hand, models get implants all the time. Similarly, most soldiers won't be able to afford reconstructive surgery; medical care is already a problem for most vets.
Yeah, work till you're 70 or 75 or death for the slave owners who fuck you up with interest, compounding, fractional banking, money as debt, blackmail, derivatives, debt, fiat money, inflation tax, etc.
By the way, what about cutting the military by 100%?
Not enough bombed third world countries then?
Not enough torture?
Oh, I forgot, tissue&robots, that sounds familiar...Cyberdine
I guess a visionary, by definition, cannot be a logician. Because a 1000 years from now, any of a million different things can happen, not the least of which might be Homo Convolutis: hominids who are overwhelmed and directly controlled by Evolutionary Meltdown.
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You guys have got to see this guy talk. He is a scientist from TED Talk and holy shit does he slam the banks. Plus you get to learn about cutting edge science at the sametime =)
Funny. Mildly diverting. But strangely I couldn't keep from focusing on Juan's pot belly protruding from his blazer and musing in horror about too many over-feeding homo sapiens becoming an infinite number of over-feeding homo "evolutians" swarming the earth like locusts. . . a frightening thought!
My analysis of of this topic assumes that there are three motivators for evolution (in order or urgency): 1. eating; 2. keeping warm (if you insist on gathering in a cool climate); 3. sex. If you remove the motivators, wouldn't the process then break down?
Or is this "reboot" all just a process taking place in the parallel life of the human mind, which will diminish at the same rate as the physical species, until it eventually expires?
A species sufficiently technologically advanced could enhance itself deliberately with no need for the slow process of natural evolution. Massive population explosions are an increasing threat to the sustainability of human civilization. A technologically enhanced and less volatile population could far more efficiently use the resources on Earth.
And as long as we are still capable of receiving feedback from our environment (sensation), I doubt the species would decay from apathy.
I find it interesting that you divorce "technological evolution" from "natural evolution." You unwittingly expose the fallacy of this and other forms of utopianism. The Nazis were technologically advanced (in their day), and had similar ideas on how to control perceived "threats" to the efficient progress of humanity. But the "natural evolvers" failed to cooperate. Human intelligence is a very resourceful evolutionary "advantage," but it tends to turn inward and form a life of it's own.
The technology we'll have in 50 years is a far cry from the Nazis'. The Nazis weren't able to directly manipulate genes or grow tissues in the laboratory or add cybernetic replacements for limbs. We will be able to do this in the future. In fact, the arm is a reality now- Dean Kamen has already created it.
And I didn't mean to imply this as a Utopian vision- strife will continue, hopefully less so, but even with enhancement. Also, I'm not suggesting anyone be forced into enhancement.
Of course technology will one day get to the point to surpass the capabilities of normal humans. I didn't realize this was even debatable.
Have you read about carbon nanotube muscles? By charging the very thin nanotubes they push each other away shortening the "muscle". The thing will be like a hydraulic press, well stronger than any human muscle.
My eye example, though exaggerated, isn't far off from what will one day be real.
I suppose you don't keep up with modern technology. I can't stop myself from reading about the stuff. There are a lot of man made wonders out there and many more to come.
I fail to see how such an unnoticeable thing as an artificial eye that allows you to see in the dark is anything but an enhancement.
Legs can be rendered similarly unnoticeable.
People with prosthetics are currently physically inferior to us, it will one day be the other way around. There isn't much to be argued on this.
If having superhuman strength and sight isn't an enhancement then what is?
I guess one might consider you to be part of the opposition against this sort of thing that I believe I mentioned earlier.
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't have my legs sawn off for super human jumping. I'm fine with the body I've got. However it WILL be a paradigm shift for society when losing a limb means you becoming stronger and faster. That's all I'm saying.
1) "Do you have to wear batteries for this?? Do you have to go to maintenance every 5 years? Do you have to oil them."
Well now that you have drawn the line what if those weren't problems? Even if all those were true the one with the prosthetic could say you are the one who can tear your ACL, break a leg, and not jump over a small building. YOU would be the limited one in his opinion. You are arbitrarily deciding that your limitations aren't as bad as those of the prosthetic user.
2)I don't understand your second comment. How would one "explode" from a prosthetic? Generally prosthetics aren't designed to explode and will most likely never be designed to do so. If it was an accident (though still a ridiculous hypothetical situation) and it did lead to the death of the individual how is it any different than an unaltered person breaking a bone and dying from marrow getting into their blood? If they had gotten the prosthetic they would have lived.
Currently when someone losses a leg and gains a prosthetic leg they are still seen as physically handicapped. One day technology will progress to the point where they will no longer be seen as handicapped, but physically superior. Some might even get prosthetics because it will be an enhancement instead of just needing it. THAT will cause controversy.
And I'm not glorifying anything. I was just saying your definition of enhancement was screwy.
Like I said. Currently anyone with a prosthetic is pityed and deemed disabled, and for good reason. Current technology cannot achieve that which the human body does. However one day it will.
It will be a huge paradigm shift when injured soldiers go from charity cases in wheel chairs to your physical superior.
Millions of touch sensors, carbon fiber muscles, composite bones, ultra high capacity batteries charged once a month.
Quit saying hydraulic pump. I didn't say that. I very much doubt the prosthetic of the future will be hydraulic. I already talked about carbon nanotube muscles.
One day prosthetics will allow the user to do everything a healthy human can. Not long after that technology will make prosthetics more capable than human physiology.
Soccer, balley, marathons, kung fu, ice skating, skate boarding... all will be achievable by prosthetics one day and the next they will be done better by prosthetics.
"Divorce" is mischaracterizing my intent. I know very well it's natural ultimately. Also, yes, human intelligence might turn inward and take on a life of its own, but this isn't necessarily bad.
I'm not arguing that it's bad. I do think it's important to remember that this "life of the mind" phenomenon is unique in evolution, perhaps an aberration, that has been abetted and accelerated by technology. Because no countervailing "advantage" exists to compete with it, it has been able to run amok and create far more problems than it solves (war, famine, oppression, climate change, etc.), even though it's been a mere blip in history.
one of the best TEDtalks i've seen in a long time. great 'bringing to bear' on the financial crises and coool sneaky way of getting to homo evolutis.
a lot of that stem cell stuff was news to me too. i feel much more comfortable in drinking my liver to oblivion now. always knew i'd be able o get a new one.
We have to think that all of this doesn't create ex nihilo (out of nowhere). First, if we want a race with supranormal senses, we need to see where will this came from and what resourses it needs. Perhaps, we all contribute to this with our work (universities run with taxes money),but, will this be accesible to all? What do you think?
Just like glasses used to be only for the rich, so could any piece of sensory enhancement become a mass-product. Look what happens to eye-lasering, first it was an expensive treatment now it happens in every shopping mall.
We should be wary of long therm consequences of these things. We don't know what happens to a lasered eye over time. We wouldn't know what happened to a nano-computer in our eye over time.
Assuming we have the resources to manipulate genes, will the concept of RACE finally be moot. I mean, if there's a gene that makes Swiss good yodelers, could non-Swiss people get the good yodeling gene?
I don't like these idiots on youtube who, once they've realized organized religion is stupid, denigrate the religious. Yes, its b.s., No, you don't have to be a jackass about it.
Thank you for that, trickay444! The denigration you speak of only serves to further galvanize the denigratee's beliefs. Denigratee is probably not in Webster's, sometimes I make shit up as I go along, :)
this is one of my favorite TED talks; it freaks me out, but I friggin' love it.
We can't go backward; the earth is doomed if we try to force old ways of doing things. Science is the ONLY way forward. If there really were a Jesus and he were alive today, he'd be a geneticist.
i love it how "The Simpsons - Homer Evolution" is in the related videos; might give a clue as to why "Evolution of Dance" has 114 million views (!) and this only has 114 thousand; you can always count on human's nefarious stupidity tainting enlightenment *pulls out torch and pitchfork*
Unless and un til we can get control of the wickedness and corruption that permeates our organic species, any improvement in species evolution will not be used for the greater good, which seems always to be the excuse for them to research and commit these experiments which mock creation and the CREATOR, but as usual the discoveries will be used to further enslave our species and turn us all into the ultimate homo-farm- extracting maximum benefit/while investing minimum upkeep, i ROBOT.
So we should shut down all progress in the field of human knowledge until we remove the ability of humanity to make decisions based on personal preference and install in its place the ability to only make choices that suit YOUR idology? Now that's what I call slavery. "They" have researched and experimented for the last 30,000 years to get us where we are today. There has never been a time in human history where life has been so easy and so safe for so many.
You missed the point completely and this is not an ideaology, there is proof in what i say. this world and all systems are subject to the physics of entropy: One of the ideas involved in the concept of entropy is that nature tends from order to DISORDER in isolated systems... this is what i meant. they take our money(usury) and promise these illusions of grandeur for the benefit of man, and then ultimately the elite selfishly exclude the goyim from these benefits, to their sole inclusion.
I'm not really sure we're on the same page here. First we should define what is meant by "them". I deliberately put it in inverted commas to highlight the word as a nonsensical social construct i my post. Second we need to define "the greater good" as I personally think this speaker is working for "the greater good". Finally, since you invoke Physics and Entropy in the same sentence I presume you mean this in relation to Classical Thermodynamics. I don't see how that applies in this case.
google eugenics, and read for while, afterward i think we will be on the same page. and no not classical t-dynamics, was using the system control as a comparison to the way things begin(great for humanity) and then decay into debauchery, they(nwo) conveniently disguise eugenics under the heading of genetics. I dont trust big governement who has told more lies than we collectively put together, ever will. all this technology ultimately feeds the field of trans-humanism, another one to google
I'm familliar with Eugenics. I don't think it's something to be afraid of in this context. It has been possible for a long time and has also been debunked as a social paradigm for a long time. Granted certain sections of society (media) seem to still be obsessed with it but the scientific community is not one. How do you believe things began well for humans?!?! I had not heard of transhumanism before. Very interesting. Is your opposition practical or ethical? I presume ethical from your 1st post
I use the writings in a chapter of genesis, as the basis for when i say it began well for humans, and then spiraled into disorder. the governement is completely out of touch with, and in defiance with the people, anytime "they" are involved with cutting edge technology.. it is used for one of 2 things: military advantage, or transhumanism, or the paradigm shift of the elect away from homo-sapiens. and yes my opposition is ethical. thanks for your debate in this matter.
And indeed your comment there will have to be an end to our debate. I cannot sustain a rational and logical argument against genesis since it is illogical to present rationality as a debate with a belief. I believe nothing, I am open to having everything I think is true proven wrong without it really upsetting my world. But I need real proof, not words in an ancient book written to control the minds of individuals in ancient Mediteranian tribes.
What about thing that are true that are beyond proof (see Godel's theorem). Or truths that may have proofs beyond human comprehension. Why should the human mind be able to access all possible truths and proofs? Our brain is just a meat machine 1 grade up from a dogs and a dog can't understand any proofs. We're a very small limited animal actually and everything we believe is probably false (at least relative to a higher brain - should one exist, and such brain theoretically can exist).
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I see two major goals:
1. prolong life
2. improve mental capabilities
The first one is obvious, we want to be healthier for longer but the second one is actually more important.
Most people falsely equal technological evolution to human evolution but the fact is that we`re already unable to cope with the complexity of modern life.
Human kinds biggest leap will be when we expand our mental capabilities.
KeskinTRS 2 months ago
why do i get the feeling i was born one fucking generation too early and i wont be able to experience technological heaven.
GOD DAMMIT DAD
ApocDevTeam 3 months ago
Sounds like Deus Ex: Human Revolution.
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MrHendo747 4 months ago
Awesome Info... "Exponential" should be THE word for THIS Decade....
MrHendo747 4 months ago
Gale?
xexux3 5 months ago
if you listen to his voice youd never know he speaks spanish as a primary language...
chok2345 8 months ago
@Psyswitch1983 and why not? You can see how badly we are facking the planet and ourselves in our current form. Letting natural evolution take it's course and MAYBE by chance well evolve into something better... If a rock from outer space doesn't clean earth one more time... In our current times?We need this or else we r facked. This is our only ray of hope we have to survive.
Don't believe me? Go in the woods and survive a month without tools. Good luck!
DurexDurpaneu2 8 months ago
Yeah but were's all the wisdom in this?
We are so busy thinking about can we do this we don't stop to think whether we should do this.
PsySwitch1983 8 months ago
We are The Borg
Kidding...great talk. Inspiring esp. given the crappy economy.
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qwickset 8 months ago
GATTACA
anepales 9 months ago
Singularity Vs. Collapse: the only fight worth betting on in the 21st century. My money is on collapse in the short term (no oil = no growth) and hopefully a 'reboot' which draws exponential tech trends together with the lessons of collapse i.e. we are a thread in the web of life not the overlords of the food chain.
danfromabove 9 months ago
thoroughly loved this talk!
ND1Razor 10 months ago
Reboot or BSOD? That is the question.
HolySpiritDenier503 10 months ago 2
Damn, I was gonna call our new species Homo Sapien Saiyan. Lucky bastard got there first with Homo Sapien Evolutis
GeneticsGuy 10 months ago 3
7:31 wow
spiritualinsight 11 months ago
Yes! Zeitgeist!
JanColdwater 11 months ago
Technology saves us every single day.
JanColdwater 11 months ago
Transcendence.
iamandrebulatov 11 months ago
Technology won't save us.
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"we cannot fix the problems w/t same thinking in which it was created"
We CAN shift from a money system to a Resource Based Economy. Check out/join thezeitgeistmovement & thevenusproject. READ the FAQ's, watch/listen to the many videos/lectures & join a movement BEYOND politics, poverty & war. I've experienced this life for 62 years & what I see is NOT pretty.
Love to all - Mamma D :)
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@TRAKKATON, I AGREE WITH YOU AND YOUR EXPRESSED IT VERY WELL. PEOPLE JUST DON'T GET IT. HAARP, TESLA, CERN, SYNTHIA, WAKE UP PEOPLE BEFORE IT'S TO LATE. THE TECHNOLOGY CREATED NOW WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU SOON !!
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rebelliouseoagj 1 year ago
very good
mickw2000 1 year ago
The high crimes of the banksters actually show that our society is ruled by the worst of the worst.
Selfish fucktards who have no interest whatsoever to plan ahead, except if it's abour power/ control/ their bottom-line.
That's why GeneticsNanotechnologyRobotics will end in a typical risk technology desaster that will make Chernobyl, Gulf of Mexico and Australia's rabbits PALE in comparison. Wakeup people, you're NOT paying attention to what's happening!!!
trakkaton 1 year ago
moved to fast from one topic to another without relating
reference2me 1 year ago
Ray Kurzweil wrote about this joining of technology and biology several years ago. He refers to it as the technological singularity.
rynox77 1 year ago
@rynox77
No, the technological singularity is defined by the moment that you build the first machine that is more intelligent than the smartest human, because that is about the last invention you will ever make. Up until then the technological progress accelerates exponantially, but a singularity is a point in time, not a phase, and it is defined by quality, not quantity. The tool that is used to reach it is irrelevant. BUT (!) science has a tradition to not plan ahead (see: space jun, nukes).
trakkaton 1 year ago
Can we take the govenments check book away?
Does it help to keep worring? Jesus Christ is the answer!
iamabigbaddude 1 year ago
Brilliant.
TylerTalks 1 year ago
When you begin to understand the implications of what this means it really makes all these banks and governments and corporations look like blinkered fools, squabbling over fiat money like spoilt children fighting over toys.
This is not a unique idea, this IS happening all over the world, more and more people are understanding that this is not science fiction, we CAN do this... Make poverty history? No... make GREED history and poverty will simply cease to exist... gods don't need money.
preacherZer0 1 year ago
Thanks million TedtalkDirector for open my eyes to the world economy
intermedia1000 1 year ago
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peacein93 1 year ago
Good stuff.
sailtothemoon123 1 year ago
k, but i'd rather live as humans are SUPPOSED to. in the wild.
afkhajiit 1 year ago
Amazing talk. Nice job.
Duema94 1 year ago
In 18 mins, this was very well done. However, I really had to disagree with the ending piece about our future evolution path. It is so singular to look just into the 3rd dimension space. We shall become multidimensional and free ourselves from the limits of current 3rd dimension just using our mind and soul. Not a single piece of hardware can beat this.
fteoOpty64 1 year ago
why are they all so entertaining on TED ??? besides studying they built there sense of humor and made a scientific show around it ??
i don´t get it . but always nice to listen to.
SoloArtForm 1 year ago
seaneire, you talk from the perspective of a christian fundamentalist. If you would have an accident and loose a leg or both eyes you would run to the doctor for an implant in a split of a second. So stop this hypocrite attitude and mature yourself. You no longer live in the bronze age. Imagine that in the same way you think now, about 60 years ago, fundamentalists (maybe your grandparents) thought about penicilin.How many times in your life did you take antibiotics?If you didn't, you'd be dead
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MARK OF THE BEAST
look at all the nice advantages...I don't want to see better or run faster...I'm a man as God made me.
seaneire 1 year ago
@seaneire
Great commend
Glory be to Jeezus!
HoracioLara 1 year ago
Tech evolution is must other wise we would be in the dark-age forever. But for those who are scared of the after life will shut there mind to evolution of any sort.
army503d 1 year ago
@army503d lol I'm much more afraid of the current life, there are a lot of scary things being developed lately.... and frankly, most people in power i don't really trust..
NickBlackDIN 1 year ago 7
I am the fucking homo-evolutis.
BTEC13 2 years ago 6
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Hahhahahaha yeah and I will sprout wings and fly, do any of these idiots have any clue how much R&D development costs? Hahhaa
sysopkc 2 years ago
* Earthcare recognising that Earth is the source of all life (and is possibly itself a living entity — see Gaia theory), that Earth is our valuable home, and that we are a part of Earth, not apart from it. * Peoplecare supporting and helping each other to change to ways of living that do not harm ourselves or the planet, and to develop healthy societies. * Fairshare (or placing limits on consumption) - ensuring that Earth's limited resources are used in ways that are equitable and wise.
ezdzbztz 2 years ago 3
@ezdzbztz could'nt agree with you more
SONofEIRE1987 1 year ago
Everything is interconnected and the Earth is an abundant place. Give rise to Permaculture.
ezdzbztz 2 years ago 4
If our technologies were more eco-friendly, there would quickly be a manifying effect of balancing in the environment, a positive feedback effect, because Nature is always seeking balance. We seem to think that working with Nature is like trying to be honest in our lives (a nice thing to do). In fact Nature's need for balance is so powerful that once we began seriously to work with true ecological integrity, we would be amazed how our efforts would be reciprocated and amplified by Nature.
ezdzbztz 2 years ago 3
Only a radical change of consciousness so that we recognize our sacred role as part of Nature and begin to follow her laws can bring about a new way ahead for Nature and the planet.
ezdzbztz 2 years ago 3
what are you a witch?
seaneire 1 year ago
Nature is abundant and energetically efficient. The form of motion on which we depend nowadays for building and development is the one that Nature uses to destabilize and break down. Nature uses another form of motion for creating and rebuilding. It is hardly surprising then, that our technology is self-destructive and unsustainable.
ezdzbztz 2 years ago 3
well homo evolutis will be a big war
worriedaboutlife 2 years ago 2
His book 'As the Future Catches You' is GREAT!!
I like his frank discussion about the nearby future.
Jackinnnn 2 years ago
Truly great lecture. One of the greatest talks I gave ever seen; F--KING HELL!!!!
arbide2 2 years ago
incredible lecture!..woah!4ted talks!..and the robot towards the end..kinda scary-the way it wuz bein kicked&trippn over rough terrain-WOW..but still kinda scary cuz im phobic over spiders&those legs make it look like a giant spider
WOLVESVIDS 2 years ago
wow...lovin this..and that robot!..crazy!
WOLVESVIDS 2 years ago
ho ly shit
-hero
fordieform 2 years ago 2
Pseudo Technological and Economic TRENDS of our modern era are the result of human influence on nature not the other way around.
IF YOU ASK ME WHAT I THINK GOD WANTS FROM US:
I WOULD LIST TWO TRENDS WE HAVE YET TO COMBINE:
#1) Permaculture Design: The fundamental course of man is to be the intermediary between nature and innovation using critical thinking to reason between the two.
* ( Permaculture creates the base for government to dissolve and free markets to flourish )
PreservingLiberty 2 years ago
#2) Fee Market Economics: Exponential growth on behalf of creative destruction allowing humans to evolve much more rapidly without the inhibition of government.
Combine these two elements and the trends Juan talks about will no longer matter and evolution of man will redirect into a far more superior being coexisting with nature/God on the most intellectual way.
PreservingLiberty 2 years ago
yet another moron thinking so inside the box...how about, who cares if the dollar crashes? who cares if the dow is worthless? economies are measured by profits, and profit doesn't mean shit. I'd rather measure by quality of life and solidarity. I can grow food in my neighborhood and live through barter. I'm tired of sending my hard work up the chain of wealth.
TurtleDrunk 2 years ago
it is a nice way to move towards a totalitarianism
tubexplorin 2 years ago
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FUCKING MORON! YOU MAKE AL GORES LOOK LIKE A SMART HONEST MAN.
Fuck you you chubby fuck. Life was created vai evolution, you fucking idiot!
pizzakid770 2 years ago
Isn't Enriquez' idea of "Homo Evolvus" similar to Buckminster Fuller's concept of evolution in his 1981 book "Critical Path"? My memory is that Fuller argued Humanity "owns" the planet and that we need to take responsibility for managing it moving forward. Maybe this idea's time has come?
SynergeticsCollab 2 years ago 4
Read his book, "As the Future Catches You"... Wild stuff.
bennyv04988 2 years ago
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THE bible says the earth is decaying not evolving
You shall not lie
You shall not murder
You shall not commit adultery
You shall not steal
it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the JUDGEMENT:
whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the LAKE OF FIRE.
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me
that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord SHAL BE SAVED
ARE YOU SAVED?
valu777 2 years ago
top ted talk, so interesting...
pike811 2 years ago 23
one of the best talk's on ted
irish202 2 years ago 40
@irish202 i was about to say that... trully amazing...some time i zip through them, in order to get to the punch line... but not this one... actually watched all of it
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What people are not understanding is how the GOV is always going to use anything for WAR and destruction . A lot of people are going to suffer and die because technology .
Any super technology no mater how good your intentions can and will be used for WAR and destruction, It alwasys has and will unfortunetly.
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BdizzleFaReal 2 years ago
why are people like you posting here? but i guess your right like look the internet is great but on the other hand it alows people like you say stupid shit
AwsomestKill 2 years ago
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WOW!
The best thing about these new technologies is that by some amazing technological peculiarity only really cool, useful stuff can be invented :)
That is right isn't it?
I mean I'm just assuming that because this guy's whole case for hope is based on the fact that control freaks in power can't put a gun on the Bigdog, can't use robots to further spy on people, can't use brain implants or nanotechnology to subdue and control the masses, can't 'grow' their own slave army/ workforce etc..
pddwatch81 2 years ago
Besides for what I believe to be a limited imagination of what technology will almost certainly one day accomplish on your part all I am saying is that it will be a big PARADIGM SHIFT when getting your leg blown off in war no longer means you will never be able to play sports again Instead it will mean you will be able to play sports better than ever before and much more.
SpazzyMcGee1336 2 years ago
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bezvezeceda 2 years ago
I really think you are digging too deep into the semantics of the issue. Your just fiddling with the words enhancement and alteration when in reality there is no clear border between them.
If I was bitten by a radioactive banana and gained all of Superman's power but also became allergic to peanut butter it would seem you wouldn't consider that an enhancement because of one minute draw back.
But you seem to finally be registering what I have been attempting to communicate so its all good.
SpazzyMcGee1336 2 years ago
I always say there is no such thing as science fiction, only not science yet. It is my firm opinion that the ultimate goal that our species should be driving towards is the mental, intellectual, scientific & technological ability to explore extra solar systems thus escaping the confines of our third mall from the sun. To become interconnected with our lust to create, to explore the vast expanses of the galaxy together as one united race. Such is my dream, we are limited only by our imaginations.
thevoiceofreason02 2 years ago 6
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bezvezeceda 2 years ago
yea im with you on that
PrinceDimeXI 2 years ago
And when you're lying on a hospital bed dying from cancer or some virus, will you tell the doctor not to give you any medicine because your body is better than anything they can give you?
sexyloser 2 years ago 2
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bezvezeceda 2 years ago
If you were dieing from a bad heart, would you refuse an artificial one?
sexyloser 2 years ago 3
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bezvezeceda 2 years ago
yes because it's not alive !
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bezvezeceda 2 years ago
I couldn't agree more, the true beauty of science and technology is the notion that we are limited only by our imaginations and our desire to create. It is estimated that by mid century computer processor power will surpass the ability of the human brain, thus the birth of true AI and advanced interconnected virtual reality systems. The realization of fusion power, a new age of cheap and relatively endless power. The advancement of nanotechnology, a brave new world of medical science... Imagine!
thevoiceofreason02 2 years ago 3
Right now, most people who get breast removed due to cancer can't afford to get implants; they can barely afford the surgery in the first place... on the other hand, models get implants all the time. Similarly, most soldiers won't be able to afford reconstructive surgery; medical care is already a problem for most vets.
bajan13k 2 years ago 2
ehh, I think humans are better off just being humans.
We've gone so far with technology and development -- we have so much further to go with-in.
Not once do i ever hear from such lecturers or intellectuals even hint that we're devolving, not evolving.
Hypothetically speaking -- evolution of technology means further reliance on the technology, thus biological devolution.
I'd call this lecture a eulogy - not a 'heads up'
dusteroo 2 years ago 3
Yeah, work till you're 70 or 75 or death for the slave owners who fuck you up with interest, compounding, fractional banking, money as debt, blackmail, derivatives, debt, fiat money, inflation tax, etc.
By the way, what about cutting the military by 100%?
Not enough bombed third world countries then?
Not enough torture?
Oh, I forgot, tissue&robots, that sounds familiar...Cyberdine
trakkaton 2 years ago 4
I guess a visionary, by definition, cannot be a logician. Because a 1000 years from now, any of a million different things can happen, not the least of which might be Homo Convolutis: hominids who are overwhelmed and directly controlled by Evolutionary Meltdown.
koreanpunk525 2 years ago
The second half was especially interesting.
mynameisnicholas 2 years ago 4
the big reboot = what the movie matrix was about =======scary
GuppieLove 2 years ago
hahaha..this is the funny version of the singularity is near...
inspiredextra 2 years ago 2
Sauguet = Sehr Gut.
LaidBack771 2 years ago
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i dont like what he said at the end
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You guys have got to see this guy talk. He is a scientist from TED Talk and holy shit does he slam the banks. Plus you get to learn about cutting edge science at the sametime =)
buckfush12 2 years ago
Funny. Mildly diverting. But strangely I couldn't keep from focusing on Juan's pot belly protruding from his blazer and musing in horror about too many over-feeding homo sapiens becoming an infinite number of over-feeding homo "evolutians" swarming the earth like locusts. . . a frightening thought!
velodoccitane 2 years ago 3
Evolutians wouldn't need to feed
Synematic 2 years ago
:-)
That doesn't sound like much fun, does it?
My analysis of of this topic assumes that there are three motivators for evolution (in order or urgency): 1. eating; 2. keeping warm (if you insist on gathering in a cool climate); 3. sex. If you remove the motivators, wouldn't the process then break down?
Or is this "reboot" all just a process taking place in the parallel life of the human mind, which will diminish at the same rate as the physical species, until it eventually expires?
velodoccitane 2 years ago
A species sufficiently technologically advanced could enhance itself deliberately with no need for the slow process of natural evolution. Massive population explosions are an increasing threat to the sustainability of human civilization. A technologically enhanced and less volatile population could far more efficiently use the resources on Earth.
And as long as we are still capable of receiving feedback from our environment (sensation), I doubt the species would decay from apathy.
Synematic 2 years ago
I find it interesting that you divorce "technological evolution" from "natural evolution." You unwittingly expose the fallacy of this and other forms of utopianism. The Nazis were technologically advanced (in their day), and had similar ideas on how to control perceived "threats" to the efficient progress of humanity. But the "natural evolvers" failed to cooperate. Human intelligence is a very resourceful evolutionary "advantage," but it tends to turn inward and form a life of it's own.
velodoccitane 2 years ago 3
The technology we'll have in 50 years is a far cry from the Nazis'. The Nazis weren't able to directly manipulate genes or grow tissues in the laboratory or add cybernetic replacements for limbs. We will be able to do this in the future. In fact, the arm is a reality now- Dean Kamen has already created it.
And I didn't mean to imply this as a Utopian vision- strife will continue, hopefully less so, but even with enhancement. Also, I'm not suggesting anyone be forced into enhancement.
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bezvezeceda 2 years ago
bezvezeceda:
I see some controversy awhile down the road around the topic of human enhancement.
Everybody feels bad for the blind guy.
Everybody jumps up and down in joy when the blind guy can see light and dark.
Everybody cheers when the blind guy can make out simple shapes.
Everybody is happy when the blind guy can see as well as you and me again.
Everybody looks on in shock with their primitive eyes when the once blind guy can now tell whats behind your back from half a mile away.
SpazzyMcGee1336 2 years ago
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bezvezeceda 2 years ago
Of course technology will one day get to the point to surpass the capabilities of normal humans. I didn't realize this was even debatable.
Have you read about carbon nanotube muscles? By charging the very thin nanotubes they push each other away shortening the "muscle". The thing will be like a hydraulic press, well stronger than any human muscle.
My eye example, though exaggerated, isn't far off from what will one day be real.
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bezvezeceda 2 years ago
I suppose you don't keep up with modern technology. I can't stop myself from reading about the stuff. There are a lot of man made wonders out there and many more to come.
I fail to see how such an unnoticeable thing as an artificial eye that allows you to see in the dark is anything but an enhancement.
Legs can be rendered similarly unnoticeable.
People with prosthetics are currently physically inferior to us, it will one day be the other way around. There isn't much to be argued on this.
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bezvezeceda 2 years ago
If having superhuman strength and sight isn't an enhancement then what is?
I guess one might consider you to be part of the opposition against this sort of thing that I believe I mentioned earlier.
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't have my legs sawn off for super human jumping. I'm fine with the body I've got. However it WILL be a paradigm shift for society when losing a limb means you becoming stronger and faster. That's all I'm saying.
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bezvezeceda 2 years ago
1) "Do you have to wear batteries for this?? Do you have to go to maintenance every 5 years? Do you have to oil them."
Well now that you have drawn the line what if those weren't problems? Even if all those were true the one with the prosthetic could say you are the one who can tear your ACL, break a leg, and not jump over a small building. YOU would be the limited one in his opinion. You are arbitrarily deciding that your limitations aren't as bad as those of the prosthetic user.
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bezvezeceda 2 years ago
2)I don't understand your second comment. How would one "explode" from a prosthetic? Generally prosthetics aren't designed to explode and will most likely never be designed to do so. If it was an accident (though still a ridiculous hypothetical situation) and it did lead to the death of the individual how is it any different than an unaltered person breaking a bone and dying from marrow getting into their blood? If they had gotten the prosthetic they would have lived.
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bezvezeceda 2 years ago
You COMPLETELY missed what I was saying.
Currently when someone losses a leg and gains a prosthetic leg they are still seen as physically handicapped. One day technology will progress to the point where they will no longer be seen as handicapped, but physically superior. Some might even get prosthetics because it will be an enhancement instead of just needing it. THAT will cause controversy.
And I'm not glorifying anything. I was just saying your definition of enhancement was screwy.
SpazzyMcGee1336 2 years ago
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bezvezeceda 2 years ago
"This is what mostly bothers me"
THEN YOU AGREE WITH ME.
Like I said. Currently anyone with a prosthetic is pityed and deemed disabled, and for good reason. Current technology cannot achieve that which the human body does. However one day it will.
It will be a huge paradigm shift when injured soldiers go from charity cases in wheel chairs to your physical superior.
Millions of touch sensors, carbon fiber muscles, composite bones, ultra high capacity batteries charged once a month.
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bezvezeceda 2 years ago
Quit saying hydraulic pump. I didn't say that. I very much doubt the prosthetic of the future will be hydraulic. I already talked about carbon nanotube muscles.
One day prosthetics will allow the user to do everything a healthy human can. Not long after that technology will make prosthetics more capable than human physiology.
Soccer, balley, marathons, kung fu, ice skating, skate boarding... all will be achievable by prosthetics one day and the next they will be done better by prosthetics.
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bezvezeceda 2 years ago
"Divorce" is mischaracterizing my intent. I know very well it's natural ultimately. Also, yes, human intelligence might turn inward and take on a life of its own, but this isn't necessarily bad.
Synematic 2 years ago
I'm not arguing that it's bad. I do think it's important to remember that this "life of the mind" phenomenon is unique in evolution, perhaps an aberration, that has been abetted and accelerated by technology. Because no countervailing "advantage" exists to compete with it, it has been able to run amok and create far more problems than it solves (war, famine, oppression, climate change, etc.), even though it's been a mere blip in history.
velodoccitane 2 years ago 3
All those things you list as "problems" are only problems because of human frailty. Remove our frailty and you remove those problems.
sexyloser 2 years ago
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Williamsbg85 2 years ago
Godwins law is awesome
numnunums 2 years ago
Godwins law was repealed in 2005, and replaced with Godwins corollary. Your comment has just demonstrated the efficacy of Godwins corollary.
velodoccitane 2 years ago
"three motivators for evolution: 1. eating; 2. keeping warm; 3. sex."
All those amount to one 'motivator' : survival.
rspawn 2 years ago
while it doesn't work universally, religion can be a great tool for instiling a set of common values in a group of people.
especially in a world of ever diminishing resources, anything which helps people make sense of it all, and cope, can be a good thing.
kahnicles 2 years ago
I fail to rationalize lying to people about reality (religion as reality) to be a good thing.
Critical thinking will answer the majority of questions.
CanyonLakeTX 2 years ago 5
spirituality exist with out religion. religion is nothing but a mob.
proper education is a better tool for instilling values into individuals.
ping6uod 2 years ago 7
one of the best TEDtalks i've seen in a long time. great 'bringing to bear' on the financial crises and coool sneaky way of getting to homo evolutis.
a lot of that stem cell stuff was news to me too. i feel much more comfortable in drinking my liver to oblivion now. always knew i'd be able o get a new one.
kahnicles 2 years ago 5
Wow - totally frightening, inspiring and enlightening all at once and presented with a great deal of humour! A really awesome TED Talk!
eph1954 2 years ago 3
We have to think that all of this doesn't create ex nihilo (out of nowhere). First, if we want a race with supranormal senses, we need to see where will this came from and what resourses it needs. Perhaps, we all contribute to this with our work (universities run with taxes money),but, will this be accesible to all? What do you think?
enco 2 years ago
Just like glasses used to be only for the rich, so could any piece of sensory enhancement become a mass-product. Look what happens to eye-lasering, first it was an expensive treatment now it happens in every shopping mall.
We should be wary of long therm consequences of these things. We don't know what happens to a lasered eye over time. We wouldn't know what happened to a nano-computer in our eye over time.
BaileysBeads 2 years ago
Assuming we have the resources to manipulate genes, will the concept of RACE finally be moot. I mean, if there's a gene that makes Swiss good yodelers, could non-Swiss people get the good yodeling gene?
trickay444 2 years ago
pretty soon, there's a related video to that on this channel... i think it's got the word genomics in it...
tillo2008 2 years ago
I don't like these idiots on youtube who, once they've realized organized religion is stupid, denigrate the religious. Yes, its b.s., No, you don't have to be a jackass about it.
trickay444 2 years ago
Thank you for that, trickay444! The denigration you speak of only serves to further galvanize the denigratee's beliefs. Denigratee is probably not in Webster's, sometimes I make shit up as I go along, :)
wetalmorker 2 years ago
lol
madman3891 2 years ago
Imagine no religions and every person on earth getting an education like the people at TED had...
We would be colonizing the galaxy by now.
MisterWeed 2 years ago 3
Science is going to weed out the weak, and religion is for the weak.
Majorhavoc20 2 years ago 3
11:50. The cartilage of the heart story gave me the chills. Damn I love science.
kji02 2 years ago
This was a great video. If I were starting high school or college right now, I would be going into biotech.
OptikNerv1138 2 years ago 6
this is one of my favorite TED talks; it freaks me out, but I friggin' love it.
We can't go backward; the earth is doomed if we try to force old ways of doing things. Science is the ONLY way forward. If there really were a Jesus and he were alive today, he'd be a geneticist.
billyshake 2 years ago 9
aww! sticky-bot :)
VivekisV 2 years ago
very fantastic and entertaining presentation :D
MysticZen 2 years ago 5
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Jedidiah960 2 years ago
i love it how "The Simpsons - Homer Evolution" is in the related videos; might give a clue as to why "Evolution of Dance" has 114 million views (!) and this only has 114 thousand; you can always count on human's nefarious stupidity tainting enlightenment *pulls out torch and pitchfork*
eyhexs 2 years ago
that wasn't very nice, ripping someone's $10 trillion dollar bill like that
sixpackspy 2 years ago
wow very impressive. i love TED talks i wish more people watched it...
RantKid 2 years ago 2
What about the military budget??
JRBendixen 2 years ago
Unless and un til we can get control of the wickedness and corruption that permeates our organic species, any improvement in species evolution will not be used for the greater good, which seems always to be the excuse for them to research and commit these experiments which mock creation and the CREATOR, but as usual the discoveries will be used to further enslave our species and turn us all into the ultimate homo-farm- extracting maximum benefit/while investing minimum upkeep, i ROBOT.
milidude 2 years ago
So we should shut down all progress in the field of human knowledge until we remove the ability of humanity to make decisions based on personal preference and install in its place the ability to only make choices that suit YOUR idology? Now that's what I call slavery. "They" have researched and experimented for the last 30,000 years to get us where we are today. There has never been a time in human history where life has been so easy and so safe for so many.
sonicthebadger 2 years ago
You missed the point completely and this is not an ideaology, there is proof in what i say. this world and all systems are subject to the physics of entropy: One of the ideas involved in the concept of entropy is that nature tends from order to DISORDER in isolated systems... this is what i meant. they take our money(usury) and promise these illusions of grandeur for the benefit of man, and then ultimately the elite selfishly exclude the goyim from these benefits, to their sole inclusion.
milidude 2 years ago
I'm not really sure we're on the same page here. First we should define what is meant by "them". I deliberately put it in inverted commas to highlight the word as a nonsensical social construct i my post. Second we need to define "the greater good" as I personally think this speaker is working for "the greater good". Finally, since you invoke Physics and Entropy in the same sentence I presume you mean this in relation to Classical Thermodynamics. I don't see how that applies in this case.
sonicthebadger 2 years ago
google eugenics, and read for while, afterward i think we will be on the same page. and no not classical t-dynamics, was using the system control as a comparison to the way things begin(great for humanity) and then decay into debauchery, they(nwo) conveniently disguise eugenics under the heading of genetics. I dont trust big governement who has told more lies than we collectively put together, ever will. all this technology ultimately feeds the field of trans-humanism, another one to google
milidude 2 years ago
I'm familliar with Eugenics. I don't think it's something to be afraid of in this context. It has been possible for a long time and has also been debunked as a social paradigm for a long time. Granted certain sections of society (media) seem to still be obsessed with it but the scientific community is not one. How do you believe things began well for humans?!?! I had not heard of transhumanism before. Very interesting. Is your opposition practical or ethical? I presume ethical from your 1st post
sonicthebadger 2 years ago
I use the writings in a chapter of genesis, as the basis for when i say it began well for humans, and then spiraled into disorder. the governement is completely out of touch with, and in defiance with the people, anytime "they" are involved with cutting edge technology.. it is used for one of 2 things: military advantage, or transhumanism, or the paradigm shift of the elect away from homo-sapiens. and yes my opposition is ethical. thanks for your debate in this matter.
milidude 2 years ago
And indeed your comment there will have to be an end to our debate. I cannot sustain a rational and logical argument against genesis since it is illogical to present rationality as a debate with a belief. I believe nothing, I am open to having everything I think is true proven wrong without it really upsetting my world. But I need real proof, not words in an ancient book written to control the minds of individuals in ancient Mediteranian tribes.
sonicthebadger 2 years ago 6
sonicthebadger, It is precisely this reason that illustrates why intellectually vacuous deserve nothing but ridicule.
VivekisV 2 years ago 3
What about thing that are true that are beyond proof (see Godel's theorem). Or truths that may have proofs beyond human comprehension. Why should the human mind be able to access all possible truths and proofs? Our brain is just a meat machine 1 grade up from a dogs and a dog can't understand any proofs. We're a very small limited animal actually and everything we believe is probably false (at least relative to a higher brain - should one exist, and such brain theoretically can exist).
dancupid 2 years ago
Doesn't mean we can try to approach those truths nonetheless. By no means should we be content with our knowledge ever.
BaileysBeads 2 years ago 3
correction, i mean 'cant try to approach'.
BaileysBeads 2 years ago