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  • Say your wife is a secret agent for the CIA, and with your wife's help the CIA sends you to Africa to investigate suspected sales of uranium ore to Iraq, and you then write an inaccurate op ed piece about your mission in the NYT critical of the administration. Why, after injecting yourself into the political fray in this way, would you not expect your wife's cover to be blown?

  • Cheney's a criminal

  • Conservatives have to get their bullshit story straight - are we at war or aren't we? It appears to me that conservatives wish to argue that the answer is "yes" if we're talking about Assange and "no" if we're talking about Rove. Funny too, how they argue that a non-US citizen should be assassinated for "treason" and that an actual US official can break the actual laws against treason whenever he wants.

  • US is not at war. Is it still treason outing a spy?

  • jbungo Do you plan on answering any questions you pozer ? 1100 FBI Files found in back pocket of Clintons......Any thoughts Einstein ?

    Berger steals and destroys Archive documents---that revealed Clinton Admininstration was asleep at the terrorist wheel...... Bush-Cheney were soooooooooo evil---they never thought of buring some WMD's in the sand ? Idiot. If you had an original thought----it would die of lonliness. You are a walking cliche.

  • In an argument concerning the outing of a CIA agent, the best you can come up with is the person who chaIred a loan program for poor people and a man who was forced by the most small-minded rabble's outcry to testify about his sex life? Tsk. Tsk. That's what you basis for decency is when it comes to exposing a CIA agent? Wow. . Do you really NOT wince when you look at yourself in the mirror? Really?

  • Fox News has many liberals on prime time. Colmes..Heraldo..Gretta..etc

    Perhaps you can tell youtube folks of ONE Conservative on NBC ABC or CBS ?

    Just one. We can wait. Tick tock. You have not answered one question of mine. One last time : How is waterboarding torture--but not partial birth abortion? Educate this Fox News zombie. I am here to learn. An 8 month old baby in a womb sucked out through the birth canal, piece by piece because Lib Mom has a headache.

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  • Wow, turned this thread into a personal blog didn't you?

    Carry on.

  • Just replying to the eight emails I received from Fox "News" zombies.

  • Ah, then definitely carry on.

  • I hope Karl Rove ends up IN JAIL.

  • Were you this revved up when the Clintons were bagged with 1100 FBI Files ?

    How bout when Sandy Burgler stole and shredded Archive documents---just before his testimony at the 911 Commission ? Or ACORN and their mind boggling voter fraud ? I would guess you were less than curious at those infractions lol..... And Rove would go to jail for .....? Evidence revealed Plame was better known than Joan Rivers.

    Idiot.

  • Crazy lefties....answer this for me. If Bush-Cheney were 1/1000th the evil monsters you portray them to be---tell me why they didnt simply bury WMD's in the Iraq desert to be found by Katie Coldrag or Heraldo -----and been heroes to the entire world ?

  • Evil isn't always smart, sometimes it's plain stupid.

    And Bush is so stupid he went broke with oil in Texas and once traded Sammy Sosa for 100 dollar and a bucket of chicken.

    I, too, was shocked they didn't bury WMDS, but stupid is as stupid does. Being a Rightie, embrace that it.

  • I see ---Bush and 500 top advisors including Rove never thought to bury WMD's.

    That's your answer ? ROFL. Okey Dokey. Jim Plunkett was placed on waivers in 1979. Al Davis scouped him up for less than a Whopper at Burger King. He took the Raiders to 2 Super Bowl victories.

    Shall I go on ? Babe Ruth was sold to Yanks for pennies.......You get my point.

    Bush : Business Owner, Jet Pilot, Texas Govenor, twice elected US President.

    We should all be so dumb.

  • You really think Florida elected GW BUsh? I was down there, working in the Capitol Building when all those people from out of state came in to block traffic and act outraged. That should have been a state decision, what happened to your belief in that, thought you were a Republican. Hypocrite. You love being duped and getting your brain soaked by Fox "News" still? go right ahead, but don't expect this country to ever submit to being taken advantage of by you bulllies again.

  • I thought AlGore stole that election fair and square. What an outrage the US Constitution had to step in and defend our system. If only AlGore had won his :

    A. Home State

    B. Home county

    C. Home City If only he had won any of one of those---he would have been Pres, a scary thought.

    Instead---he is now making MILLIONS telling idiots like you that it is Hot in July and Cold in January.

    Earth is dying because of my truck ROFL. Too funny.

    Liberalism is a mental disorder.

  • You can't just "plant" WMD's.

    For one thing WMD's, whether they are chemical, biological or nuclear, have distinct "signatures".

    So for example if you had some anthrax or plutonium, you could identify where (which lab, let alone country) it was produced in.

    That's how they were able to identify that the anthrax used in the US attacks came from a US government lab.

    Not to mention the fact that WMD's are not cookies, you can't just take some whenever you feel like it. No matter who you are.

  • I see your logic. Bush - Cheney had the ability and evil intent to plan and execute Sept 11th 2001, take down Towers, make 2 Wars, listen to every phone call in the US, give all the oil in the world to his pals, but came up short trying to find and bury a few tons of mustard gas ? Really now ? You must be giggling by now---I sure am. Bush actually destroyed several WMD's :

    1. Saddam Hussein

    2. His evil spawns

    3. Osama Bin Laden

    4. 80,000 terrorists on the battlefield.

  • Funny, i really don't remember saying any of that. Only that you can't just "plant" WMD's, and gave reasons why.

    If you're going to be a smartass, it helps to be smart lol

  • Oh, and a "few tons" of mustard gas wouldn't cut it would it?

    We had to go to war cos Saddam had some mustard gas lol

    Seriously, you might have shut that other idiot up, but you're out of your league here pal.

  • Oh and one more thing lol Sorry, working my way through your ignorance slowly.

    "Bush actually destroyed several WMD's"

    "Osama Bin Laden"

    lmao. You noob.

    Not to mention the fact that you have no idea if "80,000 terrorists" were killed or not. Shouldn't you be watching FOX news?

  • Out of my league ROFL. I have sneakers older than you, you snotty brat. I have Fox on in the backround. I can only imagine how accurate news torments your little closed mind. Better to get my News from the Old Gray Hag ? If Fox did what the Times has done---you would be screaming for the National Guard to circle the Fox building. Yes Bin Laden is dead. Been dead for years. Ya ya ya you heard him on the radio. I heard Elvis too. Idiot. You are unarmed in a battle of wits.

  • lol Firstly, age is not indicative of intelligence, and an intelligent person would know that. Make of that what you will. lol

    Secondly, you failed to respond to any of the points I made, so fail.

    Thirdly, the fact that you have FOX on all the time is exactly why you are so spectacularly uninformed. Intelligent people watch as many sources as they can and then apply their own intelligence.

    And lastly, you ramble a lot, which IS often indicative of age lol

    Told you wrong league, run along.

  • Age can be quite indicative of wisdom and experience. Your 'dismissive' attitude shows this very experienced older gentleman that you are a lightweight. I addressed every one of your points in my many posts on this site. Your point was rediculous that the President of the US nor his entire military staff could bury a few WMD's over the last 5 years. If I have to explain this stuff----you will need to stay after school, 500 words zip right by. Do I need to hold your hand too ?

  • lol OK, lest dissect this idiocy shall we.

    "Age can be quite indicative of wisdom and experience. Your 'dismissive' attitude shows this very experienced older gentleman that you are a lightweight."

    It was fairly obvious that I meant someone can be very old, and still thick as shit. (I should add that "intelligence" is subjective, I'm referring to a broad sense of the term). As for "dismissive" I was only being dismissive of your intelligence lol I'm well aware many older people are very smart.

  • Yes 'lest' dissect the idiocy.

    You must be beet red right now.

    Being older and wiser---I understand people type very fast and youtube is not an English exam, so people rarely check for their misspells. Most of all-----such a shallow little victory is for shallow little people. While chatting about WMD's and War fronts, I would be embarressed that my best point was the other guy misspelled 2 words.

    In the words of our worst President ever, "I feel your pain".

  • The only flaw, in your otherwise perfect logic lol is that I wasn't the one telling people to go back to school.

    Red face lol Not so much. And I have the feeling you're so used to looking foolish you haven't got one either.

    Anyway, for a laugh..

    "Being older and wiser."

    I'm starting to have doubts about your "supposed" age, I've never met someone nearly 60 you acts like he's 15. I could be wrong though. Just hope I'm not.

  • "such a shallow little victory is for shallow little people. Most of all-----such a shallow little victory is for shallow little people."

    lol It's interesting you see it in those terms, I only pointed out your spelling as an example of when it's best not to tell people they should go back to school lol. When you do that, I would say it is advisable to spell everything correctly, or you're asking for ridicule.

  • "While chatting about WMD's and War fronts, I would be embarressed that my best point was the other guy misspelled 2 words. "

    Another misspelling? lol Anyway, I'd be more embarrassed about being 58 years old (allegedly) and either not seeing, or not being able to respond to the actual points being made. But then I get used to it, people like you go off on these tangents when you meet someone of my caliber.

    Your move. lol

  • Your caliber. You are a legend in your own mind. More spelling bee comments ? After making your own mistakes ? You take the cake pal. I notice you never fill the 500 word limit. You jab and jab and keep returning. Interesting. I answered your points. I enjoy debate. I thought your points were correct if we were talking about Joe sixpack. The Prez and the Military can get anything they want and plant it quite easily. Not to mention they had 5 years to do it....

  • Uh huh. No "ROLF" this time?

  • What is 'ROLF' ? My home has no laughing floors to roll on.

    { Don't you just hate when that happens...you keep turning purple attempting to keep up with me and your superiority complex will vanish. I may just send you an invoice. } I've had guys like you work for me. They just can't be wrong. They disrupt all harmony constantly trying to bury their mistakes with distraction, deflection and distortion. You must be an Obama voter. Come on admit it. Nothing would be sweeter.

  • "Your point was rediculous that the President of the US nor his entire military staff could bury a few WMD's over the last 5 years."

    Firstly it's "ridiculous" (that superior intellect again), secondly, I didn't say it was impossible, just that it wouldn't be easy because WMD's have signature traits. And that was a very reasonable response to your comment..."tell me why they didnt SIMPLY bury WMD's in the Iraq desert"

    You starting to get it now oh wise one? Let's crack on with the next part...

  • Yes I'm starting to get it now. You are moving backwards like a Michael Jackson moonwalk. I never said it would be 'easy to get WMD's'. I assumed anyone in the conversation would understand it would have to be done by the highest level of government under the darkness of night, etc. If I have to keep explaining this stuff..... North Korea put Albright to sleep while Clinton was banging interns. The Clinton regime is more responsible for our current plight than Bush.

  • "If I have to explain this stuff----you will need to stay after school, 500 words zip right by. Do I need to hold your hand too ?"

    lol Says the man who can't read what people actually write or spell "ridiculous".

    "Enough WMD's to kill a million people could fit in the trunk of your car."

    Would never argue with that, not even a trunk depending on the weapon and it's delivery.

  • No, you missed it - went right over your flat head. What's being said is this. Bush was too stupid to pick up a phone and call NORAD. The Senate Intelligence Committee has already cited many many of their misstatements about Iraq if you'd avert your eyes to the BS on Fox "News", he left Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan, at Tora Bora, and let him walk becuase he had to get his occupation on in Iraq; Guantanamo is leased by us & we have complete jurisdiction. Defign "sovereignty" forf me numnutz.

  • Enough WMD's to kill a million people could fit in the trunk of your car. If given unlimited resources and personnel, where would you begin to search for such items in a country the size of California----buried in 50 feet of sand ? Well Einstein ? While you are schooling me--be the first liberal to answer this question : Why were liberals thrilled with our invasion of Afghanistan, but not Iraq ? Both are soveriegn countries. No Afghanies attacked us on 9-11. NOBAMA.

  • "If given unlimited resources and personnel, where would you begin to search for such items in a country the size of California----buried in 50 feet of sand ? Well Einstein ?"

    Again, you're making assumptions lol (and a truly wise man knows that assumptions are the mother of all fuck ups) I never said that Saddam didn't have WMD's did I? Quote me? You wont cos it didn't happen lol

  • I personally think he did have WMD's I think someone like that is highly unlikely to just get rid of them without being forced to. But I also think he was no more of a danger to us than he always was. I think he either destroyed them, buried them or sold them. My hunch is a combination of destroyed and hid. But I don't know this for sure, it's just my opinion.

    Of course, while all this was going on, N.Korean got some nukes lol.

    I feel so much safer.

  • "While you are schooling me--be the first liberal to answer this question :

    Why were liberals thrilled with our invasion of Afghanistan, but not Iraq ?"

    lol And you are getting schooled. Well, I get the feeling you're assuming I'm a liberal, and that all liberals support the war in Afghanistan. I don't support the war in Afghanistan because as with Iraq it isn't "winnable" (depending on what you class winning as). As with Iraq, eventually we'll make deals with the bad guys so we can get out.

  • Be sure to read all the points. lol

    Cheers.

  • Oh.. "Both are soveriegn countries. No Afghanies attacked us on 9-11."

    Again with the spelling. But yes I agree, rendering this a moot point.

    It's worth asking people what their opinions are and not assuming you know. That way when you try to ridicule them or get them with "gotchas" you don't make yourself look like a complete fool. That and actually reading what people say and not telling them to "go back to school" when you are unable to spell basic words.

    That's called being owned.

  • ROFL. I mispelled a word. No doubt made the lightweight giddy. Small minds need small victories. If I pointed out mispells on youtube----I'd be here all day. You included Einstein, & I quote : "Of course while all this was going on, N.Korean got some Nukes."  Too funny----after all that energy spent trying to look brilliant, the only thing you disagreed with was the ability of the Commander in Chief of the US to obtain and bury a WMD in the sand.

  • Love that I've reduced a 58 year old man to using "ROLF" and completely avoiding any point or logic.

    haha.

    You made my day pal, tks.

  • OLL @ your ROLF

  • Another liberal knocked out in the very early rounds.....Don't feel badly----the list is quite long. And remember---when all else fails-----hit them over the head with your dictionary hahahaahaa.

    OLL @ your ROLF-----that was so funny, God I crack myself up.

  • lol Either that or I thought your comment too pointless to waste my time.

    You wanna say you won feel free, anyone who takes the time to read it with an above vegetable IQ will see who won what.

    So knock yourself out.

    I doubt very much you've ever had a "victory" in real life, so if it makes you feel better. lol

  • Obama and Dem Congress pass $1.4 Trillion spending spree to purchase the last possible votes needed to obliterate any and all competiton from GOP for our lifetime.

    "When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in Hope and Change."

    You voted for this magic act--and still maintain your brilliance ? You are a lightweight. You , like most Obama voters must feel like a used condom right about now. Surrounded by Clinton cronies--'change' lol----you guys got the full money shot.

  • $1.4 Trillion so far. I'd be surprised if it isn't more. The GOP has doomed itself I'm afraid. It's inherent in a social group that believes everything should remain the same, when the world around them is changing.

    "When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in Hope and Change."

    lol If you actually knew what fascism was you wouldn't have been stupid enough to put that.

    "You voted for this magic act--and still maintain your brilliance ?"

    Guess again lol

  • "You , like most Obama voters must feel like a used condom right about now. Surrounded by Clinton cronies--'change' lol----you guys got the full money shot. "

    Keep it coming, I'll save the best till last lol

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  • "Clinton cronies" Did you make that one up yourself. Uh, no, you didn't., now. It just so happens that Karl Rove fed you a constant diet of turdblossoms, and you're under the impression that they're scrumptious. The man in charge - the commander in chief - was the presidnet of the Harvard Law Review and taught constitutional law. Karl Rove went to the Univeristy of Utah and didn't even graduate. He dropped out of college. Yeh, that's "brilliant" - as brilliant as a turd.

  • At least now you're making a poor effort at making a point, better than no effort.

  • I must admit---you do post some brilliant thoughts. They are of course---your cut n pastes of my quotes lol.....

  • This the usual tactic is it? No actual content or intelligence, you just think as long as you keep talking shit and get in the last comment (cos everyone else gets bored and gives up) it means you've achieved something? lol

    Well, we all have aspirations I suppose.

  • My usual tactic is called a 'sense of humor' weaved in and out of rational intelligent thought........I will move on now.....this debate never got off the runway. Amazing----all that back and forth nonsense over the ridiculous assertion that the US Pres nor the Military could obtain, bury, and 'discover' WMD's to shut the Press and lefties up. And 5 years in which to do it ! Maybe you had a meltdown and tantrum because it finally sunk in how silly that sounded.

    Later........

  • Yeah maybe lol

  • Correction:  The person who wrote, "You... like most Obama voters must feel like a used condom...." is like a big baby who dirties his diaper and then tells the person who has to clean up his smelly mess that he isn't doing it right. WAAAAAAAA.

  • The Mess ? You can track the smelly diaper all the way to the arse of Barney Frank and Chris Dodd. They flew Fannie into a mountain. No Fannie Mae corruption---NO MESS. O'bummer won NC. I wonder why ? Huge black population by complete coincidence voted 98% Obummer lol. New England Yankees moving to NC by the boatload voted for our Socialist in Chief.

    Ahhhhhh all those freebees. Let me see if I got this straight now : Waterboarding = torture. Partial Birth Abort = HoHum.

  • My but you do watch a lot of Fox News don't you. The man in charge - the commander in chief - was the presidnet of the Harvard Law Review and taught constitutional law. He's not a fascist, nor is he autocratic. And I have to repeat this becuase this is who you admire: Karl Rove went to the Univeristy of Utah and dropped out. He outed a covert CIA agent and thus damaged any of the intelligence leads she was associated with. That is what you are backing - a treasonous pig.

  • Covert agent ? lol...You watch too much James Bond. Itel leads from her ? Hahaha...Good one. She might have known who was next PTO president in DC. Imagine this : You have a son in Iraq. Democrats, for political points, release pictures and reports that show 14th century sub human barbarians in humiliating scenes. The Arab world shows them a million times 24/7. Your son is sitting in a foxhole in that shithole country.  Has his safety been compromised---yes or no ?

  • Did you really think tal Quaida didn't find out what was going on until you did by finally seeing some pictures with your own eyes? And if you think Valerie Plame was just a secretary, you've really had your brain thoroughly soaked by Fox "News" misinformatoin -- you've been brainwashed, Imagine that.

  • Just so we have no mis-understandings. Obummer is a black militant left wing marxist socialist nightmare from hell. While in a fantastic and corrupted majority, stolen fair and square, he is dismantling Capitalism one industry at a time while promising you an extra crumb to nibble on. Keep your mouth closed and stop contributing to the global warming fraud.

  • ...and you didn't even have to think that description all by yourself in your "rebuttal" -. Now run along and kiss Karl Rove's ring.

  • .... and all of the Republicans who voted for Obama are a bunch of liberals too. Uh huh. My goodness gracious he even won in North Carolina. Poor Karl. The poor poor subgenius. Why, his plan didn't quite work did it.

  • Bush is so stupid, he couldn't even figure out that sitting in a room full of 6th-graders instead of getting up off his ass to call NORAD was - uh - well, not just incompetent but pretty shameful to say the least.

  • Oh my. Where do I begin. In the land of the blind---the one eyed man is King. 1. Protocol. The President stayed calm in the classroom while mind boggling shit was going on behind the scenes. Chain of command and endless protocol functions immediately took over.

    2. Barney didnt just 'chair some program' for poor people dim wit. He and other Dems systematically flew that agency into a mountain that caused worldwide recessions.

    3. Osama Bin Laden has been dead for 5+ years.

  • "The president stayed calm in the classroom while mindboggling shit was going on...." Ha ha ha ha ha ha haa haha hahahahhhahahahahhaahhah! That's protocol?? You're hilarious!

  • Idiot----when the terrorists struck, the leaders of each party and the military go through a very involved protocol to secure and coordinate a thousand different ALERTS. Where Bush was at the time and shortly thereafter is meaningless.....You should be asking----"Where the hell was Clinton and his 'protocol' while these barbarians planned the attack". He was banging interns 2 at a time in the White House Hot Tub.....

    Liberalism is a mental disorder.

  • Because the Project for a New American Century consisted of a bunch of incompetent bullies, and now that they're out of power, all they have left is you and Fox "News".

  • @matt75hooper Why waste their time doing all that, Cheney got what he wanted, Halliburton headquarters set up in Baghdad at the cost of thousands of young soldiers lives....I by the way am a Conservative and proud Republican, but Dick Cheney is a monster.

  • The punishment for treason is death. Rove must be put to death.

  • The punishment for treason isn't necessarily death. Though, I wouldn't mind if he was.

  • Rove DID NOT leak the name of a covert agent. Der. It was Dick Armitage, under-secy. of state. And besides, the real outer of Plame was Aldrich Ames. Get over yourselves. Besides, the point most you twits miss is that Novak has been against the war in Iraq from the start.

  • IMPEACH Bush Cheney NOW!

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