You just cant sell a 40ft product for under 60 000 dollars and have it be anything other than junk unless you are willing to invest in laser CNCs, better quality steel, and multi million dollar paint booths. Bluebird and Carpenter got hit hard from not having the capital. Navistar and Freightliner barely made the 07 and 2010 emmisions and even that is conterversal. Its tough out there now and states expect better products in a shrinking budget world. Look for a huge dip in the bus market soon.
@rewindablender The problem whith this question is before 06 all busses were were pretty much junk. Rust issues, fit and finish, paint, ans engine troubles. Ask anyone who has a heavy series pickup from the eighties with a small bore cummings, or powerstroke. Junk. The govement clamped down in 07 (kinda) on emmisions and unless you had a mother company writing the checks you were out of business. Even IC (ward, amtram) used GM and ford chassis. For the future, I would go with IC,
Ward was started many decades ago, became American transportation, bought by international placing the international logo on a few busses pre 07 emmisions and then to clear up confusion from dealers, I.C. LLC.. was formed in 07. From a pure bottom line stand point it made sense to sadly close the origial plant in Conway Arkansas down to fabrication only, movong all production to Tulsa located off mingo raod in an old Boeing building.
@gsx1972 my mom works for truck movers and they get to transport all the brand new international buses from Tulsa to all over the place its pretty cool
Pine Bluff,AR school district bus #58,a Chevy 60 with a Detroit 8.2L diesel engine that was a Ward.I rode it from 1sr-3rd grade back in the mid 80s.We got that bus in the middle of my 1st grade year.
Actually thomasfreightliner, you are wrong. The AmTran logo did not appear on buses until about 1991/1992. AmTran did not come into the picture until 1991/1992-ish.
thomasfreightliner i have a question is IC-Corp just ward international and amtran all formed into one company please reply and i have another question do you know what the IC in IC-Corp stands for please reply
Well to answer your question this bus body co. started out as Ward Body Works in the early 1930s. Ward filed for bankruptcy in the late 70s. In 1980 Ward was bought by a group known as the American Transportation Corporation (AmTran). AmTran was still producing Ward buses until the early 90s. Then they started putting the AmTran logo on the buses. In 2000 they started manufacturing the ICs, a new conventional school bus. The first IC models still had the AmTran logo on them
and for a short time the International logo from 2000-01. In '02 the co. changed its name to IC Corporation and the bus models were now called IC CEs.
@thomasfreightliner I originally started driving a school bus in Virginia Beach VA in the 70's. My bus was a 72 International with a Ward body and to this day, it is the best bus I have ever driven.
OMG The bus @ 0 24 belongd to our county cuz dats how our county nunberd em! An i can tel frm all the bodily features! Alachua District Schools BABY WWHHOO!!!
Unfortanately i havnt ben on any Wards. Just 1 Amtran my whole life! My county sold them al wen they had that huge recal scare! From 2000-2004 I had a Thomas Vista which i fel in luv with! Then in '05 i had an Amtran FE. Then in '06 i went bac 2 a Vista! 2007-2008 I was lucky enuf 2 be the 1 bus that got a brand new 2007 International RE! 08'-PRESENT iv had an International FE! Thats prety much what my county consists of except 2 Blue Birds. And sum Short buses that rnt Vistas bus r Thomases!
the last pic on this set is a retired bus from the aurora r8 school district in aurora missouri. i would recognize that anywhere, that was part of the last pair of ward/intl's purchased, #5 and #10 when they were new.
i rimember my first school bus Superior 1963 y love this bus, in my school have a 4 Superior Pioneers, 1 superior internacional and 3 Blue bird I love this work
oh and also 2 early 80s GMC Ward 65 pas or something- not sure on year but they only had red warning lights and 1983 was the last year that was allowed in Massachusetts.
what's this song
naimuddin92 3 months ago
We have a few amtrans at our bus garage only thing I don't get iz that a few are monarch bus services and the rest are just Farmington schools
1schoolbuslover 5 months ago
Thumbs up for the RE
International588 9 months ago 2
fail music
Are44441 1 year ago
Best bus builders, Tulsa bus plant.
dggfhdfghdf 1 year ago
Yeah, those I.C's and AmTran buses are the best!
kennyjohnson92 1 year ago
What's that song?
bpmagruder 1 year ago
You just cant sell a 40ft product for under 60 000 dollars and have it be anything other than junk unless you are willing to invest in laser CNCs, better quality steel, and multi million dollar paint booths. Bluebird and Carpenter got hit hard from not having the capital. Navistar and Freightliner barely made the 07 and 2010 emmisions and even that is conterversal. Its tough out there now and states expect better products in a shrinking budget world. Look for a huge dip in the bus market soon.
gsx1972 1 year ago
what brand is the best to you guys personally? Blue Bird, Thomas or IC?
I like Blue Bird the best
rewindablender 1 year ago
@rewindablender The problem whith this question is before 06 all busses were were pretty much junk. Rust issues, fit and finish, paint, ans engine troubles. Ask anyone who has a heavy series pickup from the eighties with a small bore cummings, or powerstroke. Junk. The govement clamped down in 07 (kinda) on emmisions and unless you had a mother company writing the checks you were out of business. Even IC (ward, amtram) used GM and ford chassis. For the future, I would go with IC,
gsx1972 1 year ago
1:11 thats my favorite bus
AcaAllertor127 1 year ago
The one at 1:26 looks like the original version of the Thomas Vista
pproductions123 1 year ago
I like the Ward and IC Internationals. The grill looks better than the Thomas and Blue Bird ones.
pproductions123 1 year ago
i ride a ci ce 300
nonppl30 2 years ago
Ward was started many decades ago, became American transportation, bought by international placing the international logo on a few busses pre 07 emmisions and then to clear up confusion from dealers, I.C. LLC.. was formed in 07. From a pure bottom line stand point it made sense to sadly close the origial plant in Conway Arkansas down to fabrication only, movong all production to Tulsa located off mingo raod in an old Boeing building.
gsx1972 2 years ago
@gsx1972 my mom works for truck movers and they get to transport all the brand new international buses from Tulsa to all over the place its pretty cool
josh198869 1 year ago
Pine Bluff,AR school district bus #58,a Chevy 60 with a Detroit 8.2L diesel engine that was a Ward.I rode it from 1sr-3rd grade back in the mid 80s.We got that bus in the middle of my 1st grade year.
legsbluetrain 2 years ago
sounds good
fdpricejr 2 years ago
Thomas Freightliner i have a question
why don't you do a video about your bus fleet like Yellowbusguy did, but have a different name to it.
PLEASE REPLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fdpricejr 2 years ago
I've been thinking about it. I just need to find the time.
thomasfreightliner 2 years ago
is Ward made by Amtran?
tjs468 2 years ago
amtran rocks
tjs468 2 years ago
The district I go to in is '02-'07 IC CE's, the oldest one is the one I rode last year YAY!!
ELOfanatic 2 years ago
is the second pic of an ic ce an ic ce200 or ic ce300
dayday303 2 years ago
I notice some of the old Wards have a big W on both sides of the bus and I really like how it looks.
NickWilliam89 2 years ago
Ward was over around 1992/1993. After 1992/1993, the AmTran name began to appear on buses.
By the way, I'm from Louisiana, too! I'm from Lafourche Parish.
monorailfan1 2 years ago
Actually thomasfreightliner, you are wrong. The AmTran logo did not appear on buses until about 1991/1992. AmTran did not come into the picture until 1991/1992-ish.
Also, IC has changed their name to IC Bus.
monorailfan1 2 years ago
Well I did say the AmTran logo appeared on the buses in the "early 90's" That includes 1991/1992.
But you are right about IC changing their name to IC Bus. I forgot about that :)
thomasfreightliner 2 years ago
@thomasfreightliner we just got a 2011 ce handicap bus and it is amazing
whelenvortexr4 10 months ago
thomasfreightliner i have a question is IC-Corp just ward international and amtran all formed into one company please reply and i have another question do you know what the IC in IC-Corp stands for please reply
schindlerman96 2 years ago
Well to answer your question this bus body co. started out as Ward Body Works in the early 1930s. Ward filed for bankruptcy in the late 70s. In 1980 Ward was bought by a group known as the American Transportation Corporation (AmTran). AmTran was still producing Ward buses until the early 90s. Then they started putting the AmTran logo on the buses. In 2000 they started manufacturing the ICs, a new conventional school bus. The first IC models still had the AmTran logo on them
thomasfreightliner 2 years ago
and for a short time the International logo from 2000-01. In '02 the co. changed its name to IC Corporation and the bus models were now called IC CEs.
thomasfreightliner 2 years ago
youre right it did change in 2002 because of the different bus name
fdpricejr 2 years ago
@thomasfreightliner I originally started driving a school bus in Virginia Beach VA in the 70's. My bus was a 72 International with a Ward body and to this day, it is the best bus I have ever driven.
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faybian9 2 years ago
What the hell is that crazy thing at 1:24? I never saw anything like that.
TheFillyFlash 2 years ago
That's a '89 Ward Patriot.
thomasfreightliner 2 years ago
it looks very very wierd i bet its very slow
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faybian9 2 years ago
Nice bus wished I was able to use as a screen savor
RodneyMJ 2 years ago
what kind of standard bus is that at 1:28/2:04 its from ward
Georgejoyrider 3 years ago
That's a 1989 Ward Patriot, a type B school bus. Thank you for watching :)
thomasfreightliner 3 years ago
what kind of bus is the one at 1:03/2:04
newflyer800 3 years ago
Thats a 90s AmTran on a International 3800 chassis. Thanks for watching :)
thomasfreightliner 3 years ago
OMG The bus @ 0 24 belongd to our county cuz dats how our county nunberd em! An i can tel frm all the bodily features! Alachua District Schools BABY WWHHOO!!!
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KingMoondoggyX 2 years ago
I was just using slang to help shorten writing it! Its annoying when it gets really long and then sometimes it cant all fit into it!!!
CSXKid5016 2 years ago
Unfortanately i havnt ben on any Wards. Just 1 Amtran my whole life! My county sold them al wen they had that huge recal scare! From 2000-2004 I had a Thomas Vista which i fel in luv with! Then in '05 i had an Amtran FE. Then in '06 i went bac 2 a Vista! 2007-2008 I was lucky enuf 2 be the 1 bus that got a brand new 2007 International RE! 08'-PRESENT iv had an International FE! Thats prety much what my county consists of except 2 Blue Birds. And sum Short buses that rnt Vistas bus r Thomases!
CSXKid5016 3 years ago
the last pic on this set is a retired bus from the aurora r8 school district in aurora missouri. i would recognize that anywhere, that was part of the last pair of ward/intl's purchased, #5 and #10 when they were new.
andzsho 3 years ago
NIce video! Come check mine out and/or subscribe! Thanks in advance.
j45007 3 years ago
What music did you use here? Reminds me of How Its Made.
ICDave 3 years ago
Visionleader2: I wonder what music used for this video too! It sounds pretty awesome!
Visionleader2 3 years ago
Evesham Township has 2 vans plus they might get buses 7, 17, 33 and 34 all from IC Corp.
Strasburg1991 4 years ago
that's 14 insted of 17 sorry.
Strasburg1991 3 years ago
I love so much the olds school buses and the
i rimember my first school bus Superior 1963 y love this bus, in my school have a 4 Superior Pioneers, 1 superior internacional and 3 Blue bird I love this work
bronco1523 4 years ago
my dad use to drive a 93 ward now he drive an 02 bluebird
lordvader2822 4 years ago
Where I go to school theyve had 8 Ward busses:
-five 1988s, 70 pass. on Intl' S-1700 chassis (# 6,7,8,14,17; 17 was ret. 1996, the rest 2002)
-one 1988s, 18 pass. on GM chassis (#m3, ret. 2002)
-two 1996s, 77 pass. on Ford B-750 chassis (#9,17; still in service unfortunatly)
Geforce2187 4 years ago
i heard # 6 was on EVESHAM TOWNSHIP SCHOOLS back in 1996
Strasburg1991 3 years ago
oh and also 2 early 80s GMC Ward 65 pas or something- not sure on year but they only had red warning lights and 1983 was the last year that was allowed in Massachusetts.
Geforce2187 3 years ago
So far, I have been on 4 IC/AmTran/Ward School buses
Preschool - Bus 373 (AmTran Genesis)
2nd - 3rd Grade - Bus 394 (AmTran Genesis)
4th - 5th Grade - Bus 149 (International FE)
9th Grade (Current) - Bus 257 (AmTran FE,0:33)
bus19 4 years ago 2
the really new 1 has a silver grill in the fron and camaras
rickross048 4 years ago
Now these are the buses for me
busman99a 4 years ago 2
love the school buses nice job
daveinfinley 4 years ago