Joe Elliott Loves 90's music (Response to "Joe Elliott Slams 90's music")

[spiralmetal]

This is the thing I had always admired and respected about Joe Elliot, is how open minded he has always been musically and how passionate he is about music period.

[mac1990nose]

I don't know much about Dokken, but don't get me wrong, Maiden, Priest and Dio, I will always consider heroes of mine, especially Dio, what a voice! Metallica, well, I'm not gonna be as nice to them as you are, maybe it was the record company forcing them to sell out but then again after And Justice For All was over, the band had every intention of going commercial because they thought they had exhausted what brought them into the game in the first place.

[eusupermex1]

For example Dokken, they came up in 97 i think with a really dreadful cd "shadowlife" it was pathetic to see middle aged men trying to sound like young college students from Seattle. What the hell were they (and many others) thinking of?

[mac1990nose]

In all fairness, rock hasn't been brilliant since the 70s, 80s was more metal whilst rock was thrown into the underground and people are very 50/50 about the effect of grunge on music, but personally, I like some of the bands that came from that era. No one knows about STP but Pearl Jam are still going strong and Soundgarden are back together, but hey it's all opinion anyway. Joe Elliott and Def Leppard I'm not interested in, glam/pop metal really isn't my cup of tea.

[eusupermex1]

@mac1990nose Okay my opinion, i don't care if some people like grunge/alternative. What would be perfect is that people would have the choice to listen to whatever they want to listen to having a variety on tv/media of what to chose. That variety did not exist back in the 90's (and still doesn't nowadays) since back then people were forced to listen to what was on radio/tv and not only this but that same media slammed on the eighties scene

[eusupermex1]

@mac1990nose Having an argument about if Glam is this and replying grunge is that is like having a conversation about football or Star Treck, everybody is wrong and everybody is right, it depends on peoples personal tastes but that isn't the problem , problem was that back then we were ridiculed and attacked unfairly and most of the magazines that promoted Grunge/Alternative/Indie played along with that...it was very hard to be a metal fan back then

[eusupermex1]

and not only did alternative kill glam, it also went after metal since bands like Dio, Maiden, Priest went underground or some plainly sold out due to pressure form their record companies like Metallica or Motley Crue

[spiralmetal]

@eusupermex1

I can understand your resentment. I grew up in the 80s, too, and while I enjoyed 90s music, I didn't appreciate how the bands I grew up listening to (Cinderella, Dokken, etc) were treated during that period. I feel your pain, believe me. But the alternative rock bands were not trying to hurt those bands, and Def Leppard did not change their style solely for commercial success. They were inspired to try something different. Regardless, I think Slang is a great album.

[eusupermex1]

@spiralmetal It wasn't the fault of the Alternative bands as individuals it was the fault of the MTV mafia and record companies that instead of promoting diversity and freedom of choice create fashions and slander whoever does not go along with them, Alt rock is as much of a victim since i fear soon that the days of that stuff will be over pretty soon, just see...

[eusupermex1]

@spiralmetal To me Slang wasn't a good album but back at the time a lot of bands like Motley Crue, Metallica, etc changed their musical style at the same time and came out with really dreadful horrible albums. A lot of these bands tried to play along, the ridiculous case was Dokken a bunch of middle aged guys singing about finding themselves like 20 year old college students from Seattle it was ridiculous

[spiralmetal]

@eusupermex1

That's cool, man. I also wish the industry could have brought up 90s bands while still making room for the 80s bands. As long as I enjoy the music, I try to disregard the politics and the individual choices of the artists. My number one priority is enjoying the music.

I think many of the 90s artists actually respected bands from the 70s and 80s. Mike McCready of Pearl Jam is a big fan of classic rock.

[eusupermex1]

@spiralmetal For years also i was bitter at grunge for destroying metal,but also its partly metal's fault, you just have to have a look at a Raw power in England or Headbangers ball tape from 91-92 and look at all the rubbish bands they were promoting and you are not surprised Grunge came along and destroyed it all, it was partly because Metal/hard rock was losing quality in comparison to the era from the 70's to 1990

[eusupermex1]

@spiralmetal Metal mags like Raw in England were responsible, they made metal a mochery and promoted something called New new wave of British heavy metal which were horrible and started sounding jingoistic against American and European bands, their style of journalism was a mixture of The Sun and a teenage pop mag . They destroyed metal not grunge and when grunge came, guess what? they were the first to jump in the bandwagon, pricks

[mac1990nose]

@eusupermex1 who is a stupid bastard?

[eusupermex1]

@mac1990nose Joe Elliot and i will tell you why, while social engineers from MTV started brainwashing everyone with that fleabag grunge filth during the nineties twats like Elliot were selling out the scene and the fans that made them millionares and now he is going on on the contrary, What a stupid bastards, stone temple pilots where the fuck are they oh!!!working at mcdonalds with the guys from Spin doctors

[eusupermex1]

stupid bastard

[srekazinskas]

haha nice video

[mac1990nose]

@Cr1mSiR it's just an opinion, some of us are not interested in hair metal/pop metal and don't shit on bands that came after them

[maalbe987]

You can definitely hear some 90s influence in Slang. Not a case of selling out, but rather a case of having influence from younger bands, which I can respect.

[Cr1mSiR]

I cannot begin to articulate how vastly superior Def Leppard is compared to anything in the 90's til today.

[eusupermex1]

@Cr1mSiR the nineties were bloody dreadful and the begining of the end of real Rock, fuck nineties shit Liberal social engineer bastards l