amp 1 is definitely an ENGL, and of course it's better. it cuts a lot better in a real mix, and the bottom isn't breaking apart. it remains a lot tighter in those palm mutes. it's a giveaway that the 2nd amp is the Mesa.
Throw some EL-34s in the Mesa and use the tube rectifier instead of the silicon diode, and then decide. I'm assuming this guy is using 6L6 tubes since he went with silicon diode. Anyway, both amps rule!
I guessed correctly... The Mesa/Boogie Dual Rectifier always sounds a little bit mire fuzzy. If I had to choose between those two I would have to flip a quarter. They're both kick ass sounding amps
Amp 1 has a more practical sound. More clarity, and more importantly, more mids. Amp 2 just wouldn't sit well in a live mix, and it was muddy as hell.
@METALMICHEW Fireball and Powerball sound pretty much the same distortion wise. I´ve been using them for years now. Difference is in amount of channels. And that the old Fireball didnt have noisegate and was 60W.. Which i prefer anyway, cos you get that beauty cranked up sound at lower volume. The Fireball distortion is not crap, its awesome, as well as Powerballs!
Btw in this shoot out ENGL sounds crunchier and with better clarity.
I don't know why people gust don't dial in the best tone they can get from each amp. Your ear is gonna look for a similar tone anyways. Everyone has a signature sound. Why make these amps sound like garbage. Do a comparison based on tones you like from these amps.
he has the presence and bass dialed way too high on the recto. as an avid boogie fan ill admit that the rectifier sounds like crap in this vid, but it wouldve helped to have EQ'd it correctly. all the fizzy highs and farty lows would go away with the bass at ~9-10 oclock and presence at ~11-1 oclock.
Amp 1 hands down is the best, amp 2, while not horrible sounding, sounds dull and less defined.. I've had the pleasure of also playing both brands and I have to say Engl slays Mesa
i like amp 1 but probably only because it is sounds lower gain with the given settings. my opinion might change if they were dialed to obtain similar gain sounds.
wow not gonna lie engl sounds better than the mesa but you do need to tweak your boogie but for the preset distortion engl takes the cake. ive also heard that extended range guitars sound much better on engl i guess its just made to give a tighter low which is what i look for with my 7 and 8 maybe i can splurge and get one
@asashesrain you got it , I could tell a mile away when he played children of the grave in the chugging section because Tony Iommi uses one in his rig lately
imagine the tone king shopping for new tubes for all the amps... worth it ss amps are for line 6ers with a totally scooped sound and spidermoney in there wallet. just my opinion;)
I'm like 6 minutes into the video and I can honestly say that Amp 2 is superior imo. It's a fuller sound and sounds less "buzzy" and more wholesome. Idk I don't really like amp 1 all too much.
Some of you guys in the comments need your ears checked. How can you not recognize the iconic sound of a Mesa Dual Rec in amp 2?
In my old band I had the Engl Fireball, and the other guitarist had the Mesa Dual Rec. The Engl was always tighter - they actually complimented each other well.
Tone King, I enjoy all your videos, anyone who has negative comments, well they are just lame. I have a Mesa Dual Recti Roadster, and I love it, I cant get enough of it......in this video, with your choice of channel, mode and settings, I actually think the Engl sounds better, but I would have to compare them in person to come up with a final decision on which sounds better. Also I like your choice of guitar, I myself also have a DK2M
HEY Tone King with his DEVIL Horns...thanks for the review. Whilst the Mesa is more versatile and with more voicing options, the trusty ENGL definitely holds its own and I would be more inclined to buy it...stay METAL with a tweed jacket...:-)
amp one is brighter and has a tighter feel were as tamp 2 is darker and feels like it has a tad bit more grit i like them both but if i had to pick one i would pick amp 1 and i think its the mesa/boogie
I'ts a matter of taste really.. If you want to sound like a chainsaw - go for the Engl, if you want feeling in your tone - go for the Mesa! Living proof :)
All i have to say is they both sound GREAT!! i did not check which was which but 1 seemed a bit tighter 2 had a more bottom beef and a little more headroom. I will stick with my KranK, and if i had the cash-CAMERON!!!! Best amp out there now! so hard to get though. Its a custom order ,unless i am blind,and that sucks--being that NO 2 amps sound the same-make,model,watts -etc.before buying i have spent 8 hrs in GC-SA-Robbies-Manny's tweaking and checkin 2 or 3 JCM 800's back in my Marshall days.
Amp 1 had much sweeter high end/treble. Amp 2 was cleaner and tighter sounding on the leads which makes me think thats the silicon diode in the Mesa. All in all I though amp 1 sounded more organic and natural. Regardless both amps were GOOD. Awesome video by the way, this really helped me decide which one to purchase.
i agree amp one is the shit!! but i think its the messa on one. but yeah i like both amps alot thay are both pritty bitchin! oh yeah amp 2 is better for chuggin imo.
Honestly, I'd run both stereo from one 4x12 cab. The Fireball has an amazing mid tone for cutting through the mix and hearing each note clearer. The Mesa, on the other hand has that huge trademark sound that no other amp has been able to capture. I think they'd sound great complimenting each other.
Amp1 is tighter sounding and amp2 sounds loosy - it has always been like that german voiced amps vs american voiced amps. Personally I think that mesa is more brutal but engl is good for some more technical stuff.
this demo is invalid because of the mesa has active eq's, having the mesa's trebble ate 3 destroys the mid and bass leaving you with a thin sounding mess, the manual specifically says not to put the treble past 2:30
The Engl wins here, it seems that the Recto's mids are a little too scooped which could be fixed with its numerous tonal capabilities- But both are great amps.
I, too, got this backwards! Amp 1 sounds clearer and tighter, where amp 2 sounds fatter with more gain. at least that's what i hear. I was in the market to buy a dual rectifier until i saw this.lol. i may have to go play on an Engle now.
does anybody know what mic and cab he is using? im guessing either the shure sm57 or the senhieser e-609 for the mic but anybody know what cab he is using i guess, and if you are positive on the mic, let me know also! thanks
@baune121, your comment should be removed as it is so completely and utterly wrong. Engl has far more juice then mesa, its just a matter of preference how much juice you want. if you can't handle your juice though, you might sound like shit.
This guy's cool, but I can just imagine him ordering a sandwich at the local deli...(with that voice and accent) Aye-yo! gimme da pustramee wit da rye, witta side uh ju-ju-b's...lol, juss kiddin..
Wow. Like trying to choose between the hot blonde and the hot brunette. For just straight forward in-your-face brutallity, I think the Engle is a nasty as they come. From a tweakers point of view, the Mesa is no doubt the king. My best friend is in a band and he plays a DBZ Bird of Prey into a Mesa Dual Rec and it is killer. My vote goes for the Mesa! But it's 1a versus 1b. Very close. Just imagine a full stack of each on opposite sides of the stage. NOW your jamming!
@smacman68 i think they are preatty much equal on 6 string guitars but when it gets down to 7 and 8's the engl wins hands down, the messa just cant match the clarity of ANY engl head on low tunings!
You could be right. I don't know a whole lot about the 7 & 8 stringers. I will occasionally tune down 1 full step for a few songs, but not alot. Again, I really am not taking anything away from the Engl. I am one of those "anything but Marshall" guys. THEY are completly overrated. When compared to Mesa, Engl, Soldano, Randall, and Orange, Marshalls are outclassed in every category except history. They're not bad amps, just outdated.
@smacman68 come on man! marshalls are legendary amps..remember that the most of the distortion pedals are going to imitate the sound of a jcm800, a plexi or jmp and so on..they are older than engl's,mesa's and randall and are very versatile! anyway I own an ENGL Fireball and I really love it! I am not taking anything away from engl too, they are just AWESOME! cheers
Like I said in my comment, Marshalls are not bad amps (I own two) and they are legendary. What I was getting at was if you had your choice of amps, would you choose a JCM800 over a, say, Mesa Dual Rectifier? Some may, and they would be getting a kick ass amp, but at least these days you have a choice. That's all I was trying to say. Does that make sense or does it sound retarted?
@smacman68 it makes sense and it's of course your personal opinion..I am just trying to say that they are not overrated..if I was playing some old hard rock like for ex. deep purple or led zeppelin and had the choice to choose an amp between a marshall and a mesa boogie I would choose the marshall of course..it has to do with the stuff you play..
Truer words have never been spoken. One of my dream rigs is the Randy Rhodes Marshall JCM800 with the white tolex cover. THAT is a killer rig. Also, I have been looking into the Orange Rockerverb 100. if I could just get past the bright orange color...
@smacman68 you mean the JMP? Yeah Orange amps are killers!!! I have tried a rockerverb and a thunderverb when I was looking for new amp but finaly I decided to buy my fireball!! It's my favorite amp! if there was only an OD/Crunch channel..I would be in heaven..
Yea, the JMP is what I meant. Also, I have been hearing alot about a new head out of Texas, I think, called Diamond Nitrox? DBZ Guitars (Dean Zelinski) has teamed up with them and it's supposed to be the Holy Grail of high gain US amps. I saw a clip from NAMM 2010 and he's making custom amp/guitar sets ($15k or so), Looking hard into that! Any word from your end?
@smacman68 I am trying to tell you that the only feature wich a fireball should offer is an Overdrive or a Crunch channel! btw I know from what you are talking about! really great stuff ;)
The ENGL might have sounded better in these settings, but the truth is that the Mesa is one of the most versatile amps out there, it can go crunchier, it can go bluesy, and it has one of the greatest clean channels ever. With 8 modes I cant see how Id ever choose the fireball.
With those tone settings, surprisingly for me, I liked the Engl. But I do have to admit, I wouldn't consider that the definitive sound for the Mesa, back off on the gain and mids and it would be a lot less buzzy. That's tweaking though, and I u
Running presence at 4 o'clock and treble at 2 o'clock!! That's ridiculous, way too bright and harsh sounding!
adamdevo 12 hours ago
mesa all the way
kennethmidnight 3 days ago
ENGL Thunder Vs Single Rectifier? 100W it's too much for me.
Henrucci 4 days ago
definition not as good on amp#2
1976Stratomaster 2 weeks ago
Mesa is like the mexican model of ENGLE...........get it?
1976Stratomaster 2 weeks ago
ENGLE owns mesa!
1976Stratomaster 2 weeks ago
It's pretty obvious that you could make either amp sound like the other with a little tweaking of the knobs.
petedogg369 4 weeks ago
that mesa just spews gain
bassplayer2011ify 1 month ago
"amp 2" ,obviously the mesa, sounded way too undefined for me
geicowithdagheko1 1 month ago
Amp 1 was better. More vocal mid-range and more balls.
klblackstar 1 month ago
amp 1 is definitely an ENGL, and of course it's better. it cuts a lot better in a real mix, and the bottom isn't breaking apart. it remains a lot tighter in those palm mutes. it's a giveaway that the 2nd amp is the Mesa.
metal571 1 month ago
Wish more spokespersons were as direct and to the point as this smart cookie.
Voitcu 1 month ago
Both sound terrible, trebly and incredibly harsh.
Ozterkvlt 1 month ago
What cabinet are you using? Both amps sound like garbage.
SeanWallaceGuitar 1 month ago
Throw some EL-34s in the Mesa and use the tube rectifier instead of the silicon diode, and then decide. I'm assuming this guy is using 6L6 tubes since he went with silicon diode. Anyway, both amps rule!
Valagnar 1 month ago
like the sound of the 1 but its little fizzy makes that annoying sound hshshssssshhss
MatKiller1197 2 months ago
mesa sounds better but in this clip it doesnt justice at all because it has way too much gain on the mesa wich isnt good with that head
conca121212 2 months ago
I guessed correctly... The Mesa/Boogie Dual Rectifier always sounds a little bit mire fuzzy. If I had to choose between those two I would have to flip a quarter. They're both kick ass sounding amps
johnnychingas1000 2 months ago
Amp 1 has a more practical sound. More clarity, and more importantly, more mids. Amp 2 just wouldn't sit well in a live mix, and it was muddy as hell.
DGBV69 2 months ago
i actually think amp 1 sounds better.
klblackstar 3 months ago
amp 2... i hope its t\he rect
hevechvy 3 months ago
in this vid the ENGL sounds better nuff said
1963ajackson 3 months ago
the gain is WAY too much on the mesa
luiza177music 4 months ago
Green is much better
sionhumberto 4 months ago
is amp1 the fireball?
Scorcheed 6 months ago
i recognized amp 2 almost straight away.. that messy saturation is so mesa ^^
Well, i play on Engl, and the other guitarist in my band plays Recto, so it was easy to tell.
doyengicp 6 months ago
dude... a dual rectifier vs a fireball? you crazy??? fire it up against a powerball! than you compariss 2 GOOD amps! the fireball distortion is crap!
METALMICHEW 6 months ago
@METALMICHEW Fireball and Powerball sound pretty much the same distortion wise. I´ve been using them for years now. Difference is in amount of channels. And that the old Fireball didnt have noisegate and was 60W.. Which i prefer anyway, cos you get that beauty cranked up sound at lower volume. The Fireball distortion is not crap, its awesome, as well as Powerballs!
Btw in this shoot out ENGL sounds crunchier and with better clarity.
deadheadsg 2 months ago
amp #2 had to much treble amp #1 had a clearer tone you could really hear each note from another were as #2 was a little muddy for my taste
Metallicafan130 6 months ago
how many freakin amps do you have in that room dude?!?!
dontfigtthepower7 7 months ago
Amp 1 beat the shit out of amp 2.
Seraphblood 7 months ago
#1 was cleaner and sustained more than #2, but had a little less attack, but #2 lacked some depth. I'd go with #1, can always add a solo boost.
muzicboy99 7 months ago
i like first, more tight ( i think mesa))))
kabangig 7 months ago
I preferred the "balls" of amp 2
FiftyOneFiftyThree 7 months ago
I don't know why people gust don't dial in the best tone they can get from each amp. Your ear is gonna look for a similar tone anyways. Everyone has a signature sound. Why make these amps sound like garbage. Do a comparison based on tones you like from these amps.
gtarmn75 7 months ago
Amp 1 has a cleaner tone, more crushing.
dislikeusername 7 months ago
he has the presence and bass dialed way too high on the recto. as an avid boogie fan ill admit that the rectifier sounds like crap in this vid, but it wouldve helped to have EQ'd it correctly. all the fizzy highs and farty lows would go away with the bass at ~9-10 oclock and presence at ~11-1 oclock.
rocknroll9225 7 months ago
amp 1, a bit cleaner a nice crispy thick tone, but can for sure dirty up
enthnd03 7 months ago
both these amps sound sick
1148bucknasty 7 months ago
Amp 1 hands down is the best, amp 2, while not horrible sounding, sounds dull and less defined.. I've had the pleasure of also playing both brands and I have to say Engl slays Mesa
abstractaria 7 months ago
i like amp 1 but probably only because it is sounds lower gain with the given settings. my opinion might change if they were dialed to obtain similar gain sounds.
zack9922299 7 months ago
oh come on..engl will always will!
VKzGibson 7 months ago
i lyk amp 1 ...
tuhin6666 7 months ago
wow not gonna lie engl sounds better than the mesa but you do need to tweak your boogie but for the preset distortion engl takes the cake. ive also heard that extended range guitars sound much better on engl i guess its just made to give a tighter low which is what i look for with my 7 and 8 maybe i can splurge and get one
Locrianisstrange 8 months ago
way too much treble...
kueh88 8 months ago
Liked no.1 better.. better clarity not as dull and dark and chords sound more alive.. lets see which one was no 1!
FirePower3006 8 months ago
2 mesa 1 engl?
asashesrain 8 months ago
@asashesrain you got it , I could tell a mile away when he played children of the grave in the chugging section because Tony Iommi uses one in his rig lately
JYZProductions 7 months ago
imagine the tone king shopping for new tubes for all the amps... worth it ss amps are for line 6ers with a totally scooped sound and spidermoney in there wallet. just my opinion;)
icedteaburst 8 months ago
I'm like 6 minutes into the video and I can honestly say that Amp 2 is superior imo. It's a fuller sound and sounds less "buzzy" and more wholesome. Idk I don't really like amp 1 all too much.
RedShogun13 8 months ago
ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok ok xD
Bilzebube92 8 months ago
honestly the engl sounds better but i think if u adjusted them right mesa would sound a bit better but idk
1963ajackson 9 months ago
great sounds! what cab are you using kind sir?
Ion89gr 9 months ago
Mate, is your room in a closet? No offense, but the room seems rather small. Mabe just all the awesome gear.
jfkdjfd 9 months ago
1- ENGL
2- Mesa
pretty sure of it
SzczepsonPepson1 9 months ago 9
amp 2 is smoother.amp 1 is too trebly
reticle36 9 months ago
Some of you guys in the comments need your ears checked. How can you not recognize the iconic sound of a Mesa Dual Rec in amp 2?
In my old band I had the Engl Fireball, and the other guitarist had the Mesa Dual Rec. The Engl was always tighter - they actually complimented each other well.
milisha98 9 months ago
ENGL is better
JuliMarshall 9 months ago
what guitar, need now, must buy!
megadeth1996 10 months ago
DONT READ THIS UNTIL YOU HAVE WATCHED THE VIDEO
RED = ENGL
GREEN = MESA
everyone like this so you can save the BS of going to the link. :/
TheSpeedyCJ 10 months ago
you cant really compare these amps as they are in the difference money league the fireball is 1200 euros and mesa is 2200 so yeah...
hurmos 10 months ago
@hurmos Depends where you live, in N-america the Engl is imported while the Mesa is local. Prices are much closer.
iplayloud2 9 months ago
@iplayloud2
In Europe:
- ENGL Fireball: 1190
- Dual Rectifier: 2200
Lgw1984 9 months ago
Tone King, I enjoy all your videos, anyone who has negative comments, well they are just lame. I have a Mesa Dual Recti Roadster, and I love it, I cant get enough of it......in this video, with your choice of channel, mode and settings, I actually think the Engl sounds better, but I would have to compare them in person to come up with a final decision on which sounds better. Also I like your choice of guitar, I myself also have a DK2M
slickknoggin 10 months ago
what is the dual rectifier?
antijesuscock 10 months ago
HEY Tone King with his DEVIL Horns...thanks for the review. Whilst the Mesa is more versatile and with more voicing options, the trusty ENGL definitely holds its own and I would be more inclined to buy it...stay METAL with a tweed jacket...:-)
5150VanAlien 11 months ago
The Mesa's are fuckin' monsters esp. the 2 channel ones! just needs the 808 in front, then its a freakin' beast!
tubescreamermuff 11 months ago
Amp 1 is he ENGL and Amp 2 is the Mesa
jcozzi9 11 months ago 2
I like 2
TheASEmaster 11 months ago
I liked amp 1 the best, and i would guess that was the ENGL
skatallica76 11 months ago
i like the Mesa used by more famous bands aka metallica rammstein so much gain and has a really clear tight sound
card1100 1 year ago
green - amp 2, have less noise, sounds more clear
aszflakorocks 1 year ago
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metallic591 1 year ago
i like amp 1 a little bit beter because it has less of a scooped sound.
ihatebobsaget1989 1 year ago 4
"...we have limited amount of time we can do this..." Then CUT THE CHATTER TO A MINIMUM.
dongypooh 1 year ago
Settings were not common or ideal for either amp.
cordanscedo 1 year ago
trebe is too high, you should put a microphone in front of the cabinet's cone, not in front of your mouth
grazianism 1 year ago
OK? )))
FroZt190261 1 year ago
i have to say amp 1 sounded better but i guess it's inevitable for the price XD
ihatenatwolf 1 year ago
Amp 1, less grainy fuzzy stuff. A clearer sound. But if it were me I'd turn the treble down on both of them!
Surgeon314 1 year ago 2
I totally thought that the ENGL was the green but it wasn't.
ENGL = Red
Mesa = Green
Levi790 1 year ago
Looked up the answer, looks like I'd rather have the Mesa. If only I had $2700 for the Road King xD
Lucario1211 1 year ago
good stuff. get both of them
ampz37 1 year ago
mesas are fucking overpriced
koukouroukou12345 1 year ago 2
I think that this comparison would be much better if you turn down the presence.
metalmaster384 1 year ago
amp 2 sounds better, more balls.
westsd4lyphe 1 year ago 21
@westsd4lyphe if by more balls you mean more fuzz and hiss than yes
weemankyle 11 months ago
@westsd4lyphe For me:
- Amp 1 has better distortion, Amp 2 distortion sounds like a broken speaker.
- Amp 2 has more bass but Amp1 mids are better.
Amp 1 is the clear winner.
Lgw1984 9 months ago 2
@Lgw1984 That's opinion, not fact
Grecian92 8 months ago in playlist Anschauen II
amp one sounded better to my ear's but it had a little noise coming through though but maybe a noise reducer might help with that and some tweaking!
CKS5000 1 year ago
amp one is brighter and has a tighter feel were as tamp 2 is darker and feels like it has a tad bit more grit i like them both but if i had to pick one i would pick amp 1 and i think its the mesa/boogie
91xero 1 year ago
engl is for mids dude, so crank em, treble is way too high
hideki12345 1 year ago 15
@hideki12345 dude.....if u look at the amp...he has the mid boost on......
rawrawr6666 9 months ago
@rawrawr6666
so?
hideki12345 9 months ago
I'ts a matter of taste really.. If you want to sound like a chainsaw - go for the Engl, if you want feeling in your tone - go for the Mesa! Living proof :)
gazuul 1 year ago
2 was the dual recto
pivetlord13 1 year ago
All i have to say is they both sound GREAT!! i did not check which was which but 1 seemed a bit tighter 2 had a more bottom beef and a little more headroom. I will stick with my KranK, and if i had the cash-CAMERON!!!! Best amp out there now! so hard to get though. Its a custom order ,unless i am blind,and that sucks--being that NO 2 amps sound the same-make,model,watts -etc.before buying i have spent 8 hrs in GC-SA-Robbies-Manny's tweaking and checkin 2 or 3 JCM 800's back in my Marshall days.
janemacdonnell1 1 year ago
ENGL won.
brwnie00 1 year ago
Amp 2 sounds better, kinda' sure it's the Boogie :)
Klimpmeister 1 year ago
I think #2 is the mesa. I like it better SLIGHTLY. It has a little more bass. Now let me go on the site......
thehuntz1 1 year ago
Amp 1 had much sweeter high end/treble. Amp 2 was cleaner and tighter sounding on the leads which makes me think thats the silicon diode in the Mesa. All in all I though amp 1 sounded more organic and natural. Regardless both amps were GOOD. Awesome video by the way, this really helped me decide which one to purchase.
SJP444 1 year ago 2
AMP # 1, That ENGL is a BEAST!!!! \m/(~_~)\m/
TempestaRiggs 1 year ago
i agree amp one is the shit!! but i think its the messa on one. but yeah i like both amps alot thay are both pritty bitchin! oh yeah amp 2 is better for chuggin imo.
Vengeanceisourpassio 1 year ago
i agree amp one is the shit!! but i think its the messa on one. but yeah i like both amps alot thay are both pritty bitchin!
Vengeanceisourpassio 1 year ago
Amp 1 = Fireball
Amp 2 = Mesa
Honestly, I'd run both stereo from one 4x12 cab. The Fireball has an amazing mid tone for cutting through the mix and hearing each note clearer. The Mesa, on the other hand has that huge trademark sound that no other amp has been able to capture. I think they'd sound great complimenting each other.
jb1Jedi 1 year ago
Amp 1 is the Mesa, knew it from the first note stuck, and its just better than anything else, even the engl.
Stevenwilliams11 1 year ago
@Stevenwilliams11 i love how its the engl
reaghan55metallica 1 year ago
@Stevenwilliams11
wrong
bozzi90 1 year ago
@Stevenwilliams11 its actually the engl lol check the site
xXDidusXx 1 year ago
I'd have to give my vote to the mesa.
codyjames122 1 year ago
Amp1 is tighter sounding and amp2 sounds loosy - it has always been like that german voiced amps vs american voiced amps. Personally I think that mesa is more brutal but engl is good for some more technical stuff.
FungusLabel 1 year ago
I would literally give my left testicle to have this job. ENGL and Mesa kick serious ass.
SlipknotPurity8 1 year ago
ENGL \°°/
xxlfart 1 year ago
amp 1 all the way !
schecterguitarsfan 1 year ago
amp 1!
jmdb1994 1 year ago
my guess amp 2 is Mesa my pick cause has less background noise
dekzan 1 year ago
I like amp 1 more too, great video btw :)
The Engl Fireball is my hot candidate atm anyway :D
DamageIINC 1 year ago
this demo is invalid because of the mesa has active eq's, having the mesa's trebble ate 3 destroys the mid and bass leaving you with a thin sounding mess, the manual specifically says not to put the treble past 2:30
GuernB2 1 year ago
hows that jackson? dk2m right?
mikamee14 1 year ago
The Engl wins here, it seems that the Recto's mids are a little too scooped which could be fixed with its numerous tonal capabilities- But both are great amps.
MikefromMesia 1 year ago
Amp 2 was nice and thick. That's my pick!
njtnjtnjtnjt 1 year ago
TONY SOPRANO!? IS THAT YOU?
exeter13 1 year ago
I, too, got this backwards! Amp 1 sounds clearer and tighter, where amp 2 sounds fatter with more gain. at least that's what i hear. I was in the market to buy a dual rectifier until i saw this.lol. i may have to go play on an Engle now.
spacemonkeyzass 1 year ago
Red win !
IEM742 1 year ago
hm i gues the messa was the amp 1 which i liked the most
em0p0wa 1 year ago
nice video dude, i take the engl, no doubs.
REFRESHEDDEMON2 1 year ago
mesa raped the engl
moneymoney220666 1 year ago
the red is recto and the green is engl
Alexsintek2 1 year ago
first ine were much better
itayash 1 year ago
engl beats mesa
reticle36 1 year ago
engl sounds Cristal clear
vicgarcia30 1 year ago
1 is obviously the ENGL and 2 is the Mesa
1 sounds a lot better IMO
StewieSwan 1 year ago
lets get started with one of these bad boys hahah great video man :P
gibson5844 1 year ago
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kizmetx 1 year ago
They both kick ass equally IMO.
kizmetx 1 year ago
Imo the first one sounds better.
behemoth666123 1 year ago
id have to say the 1st is the engl and the 2nd is the mesa but ill have to check. thanx the video was really helpful.
lxlSYNYSTERlxl 1 year ago
one of those beehhd boys over here
Bluesguitar247 1 year ago
What model is that Mesa? I know the ENGL is a Fireball 100W but I'm not sure with the Mesas
KissMeImPunk 1 year ago
@KissMeImPunk it says in the title, its the mighty dual rec 100w
funkin182 1 year ago
does anybody know what mic and cab he is using? im guessing either the shure sm57 or the senhieser e-609 for the mic but anybody know what cab he is using i guess, and if you are positive on the mic, let me know also! thanks
guitarsbunch347 1 year ago
Engl for Hard rock, Mesa for heavy metal!
baune121 1 year ago
@baune121 errrm, NO.
asianaxeman 1 year ago
@asianaxeman My opinion, so YES
baune121 1 year ago
@baune121 your opinion is misguided child, go and feast on some danish bacon, worst bacon in the world!
asianaxeman 1 year ago
@baune121 u r the dummes mother fucker
vicgarcia30 1 year ago
@baune121, your comment should be removed as it is so completely and utterly wrong. Engl has far more juice then mesa, its just a matter of preference how much juice you want. if you can't handle your juice though, you might sound like shit.
hmcg020 1 year ago
@hmcg020 Agreed!
5150VanAlien 1 year ago
This guy's cool, but I can just imagine him ordering a sandwich at the local deli...(with that voice and accent) Aye-yo! gimme da pustramee wit da rye, witta side uh ju-ju-b's...lol, juss kiddin..
bchewdown 1 year ago 2
90's 2 channel Mesa Dual Rectumfryer's!
Cost less than a grand on ebay and craigslist.
Simplicity that will kick your ass to your shoulders!
lakenormanusa 1 year ago
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lakenormanusa 1 year ago
Dial them both in, then do the review.
lakenormanusa 1 year ago
Number 1!!!!
93jurrian 1 year ago
Rectifier= Tight and high Gain
ENGL= No very tight and high gain
GuitaristBoi9 1 year ago
Wow. Like trying to choose between the hot blonde and the hot brunette. For just straight forward in-your-face brutallity, I think the Engle is a nasty as they come. From a tweakers point of view, the Mesa is no doubt the king. My best friend is in a band and he plays a DBZ Bird of Prey into a Mesa Dual Rec and it is killer. My vote goes for the Mesa! But it's 1a versus 1b. Very close. Just imagine a full stack of each on opposite sides of the stage. NOW your jamming!
smacman68 1 year ago
@smacman68 i think they are preatty much equal on 6 string guitars but when it gets down to 7 and 8's the engl wins hands down, the messa just cant match the clarity of ANY engl head on low tunings!
shakunkadunk 1 year ago
You could be right. I don't know a whole lot about the 7 & 8 stringers. I will occasionally tune down 1 full step for a few songs, but not alot. Again, I really am not taking anything away from the Engl. I am one of those "anything but Marshall" guys. THEY are completly overrated. When compared to Mesa, Engl, Soldano, Randall, and Orange, Marshalls are outclassed in every category except history. They're not bad amps, just outdated.
smacman68 1 year ago
@smacman68 agreed marshall are quite shocking, look up a band called periphery, they use 7's with engl's and orange cabs, amazing sound!
shakunkadunk 1 year ago
@smacman68 come on man! marshalls are legendary amps..remember that the most of the distortion pedals are going to imitate the sound of a jcm800, a plexi or jmp and so on..they are older than engl's,mesa's and randall and are very versatile! anyway I own an ENGL Fireball and I really love it! I am not taking anything away from engl too, they are just AWESOME! cheers
VKzGibson 1 year ago
Like I said in my comment, Marshalls are not bad amps (I own two) and they are legendary. What I was getting at was if you had your choice of amps, would you choose a JCM800 over a, say, Mesa Dual Rectifier? Some may, and they would be getting a kick ass amp, but at least these days you have a choice. That's all I was trying to say. Does that make sense or does it sound retarted?
smacman68 1 year ago
@smacman68 it makes sense and it's of course your personal opinion..I am just trying to say that they are not overrated..if I was playing some old hard rock like for ex. deep purple or led zeppelin and had the choice to choose an amp between a marshall and a mesa boogie I would choose the marshall of course..it has to do with the stuff you play..
VKzGibson 1 year ago
Truer words have never been spoken. One of my dream rigs is the Randy Rhodes Marshall JCM800 with the white tolex cover. THAT is a killer rig. Also, I have been looking into the Orange Rockerverb 100. if I could just get past the bright orange color...
smacman68 1 year ago
@smacman68 you mean the JMP? Yeah Orange amps are killers!!! I have tried a rockerverb and a thunderverb when I was looking for new amp but finaly I decided to buy my fireball!! It's my favorite amp! if there was only an OD/Crunch channel..I would be in heaven..
VKzGibson 1 year ago
Yea, the JMP is what I meant. Also, I have been hearing alot about a new head out of Texas, I think, called Diamond Nitrox? DBZ Guitars (Dean Zelinski) has teamed up with them and it's supposed to be the Holy Grail of high gain US amps. I saw a clip from NAMM 2010 and he's making custom amp/guitar sets ($15k or so), Looking hard into that! Any word from your end?
smacman68 1 year ago
@smacman68 I am trying to tell you that the only feature wich a fireball should offer is an Overdrive or a Crunch channel! btw I know from what you are talking about! really great stuff ;)
VKzGibson 1 year ago
@smacman68 orange offers amps in white and black as well, check the website for that particular model. Orange kicks ass too :)
broadcast666this 1 year ago
The ENGL might have sounded better in these settings, but the truth is that the Mesa is one of the most versatile amps out there, it can go crunchier, it can go bluesy, and it has one of the greatest clean channels ever. With 8 modes I cant see how Id ever choose the fireball.
rampage222555 1 year ago
amp 1 has more trebleness in it
FatKidCookie 1 year ago
WHERE DOES THIS MAN LIVE SO I CAN BREAK IN AND STEAL MY FAVORITE HEAD, HE DOESNT NEED THEM ALL! HIS WALLS ARE LITERALLY MADE OF AMPS!
jk, i wont break into your house. :D
NickFerraroAwesome 1 year ago
ENGL. Always a good decision.
DAVECATAZ 1 year ago
With those tone settings, surprisingly for me, I liked the Engl. But I do have to admit, I wouldn't consider that the definitive sound for the Mesa, back off on the gain and mids and it would be a lot less buzzy. That's tweaking though, and I u