There is no doubt this is a airplane spraying something in the airspace over somebodys farmland, subdivision, city or village, state park, schoolyard somewhere in America or Canada. when are we going to demand they, whoever they are, stop this nonsence.
Chemtrails ? How absurd! Who in there right mind would poison human beings on purpose? We may know the real reason very soon .......Have you gone DIGITAL yet ? Better hurry . It's about to happen.
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.
( Aldous Huxley )
Why is the government allowing this? Why the rationale of such activity is not in the public domain? Media not bought up by the Big Money sorely needed to allow public discussion.
Maybe because any valid testing done has shown nothing in a contrail beside the products of combustion of jet fuel through a jet engine. News people usually like to stick to facts. There are no real facts found to support a chemtrail program...just a lot of stories, hearsay, supposition, suspicion, and lack of knowledge of atmospheric and aviation sciences. People not knowing science is not news.
second, the only fact you are looking for is somebody in the govt or on the news saying that they are indeed using a chemtrail program. Is this admission going to change most peoples belief in such a program? yes. But this just proves that we only believe what we are told and do not think for ourselves.
Valid testing is done only in situ, from the plume itself at altitude within moments of forming. Ground level tests are problematic for several reasons;
* The don't account for ground-level background contamination
* They can't be used to pinpoint their source as from a plume in the atmosphere.
* Aerosols in the atmosphere are known to remain suspended for hours or days and will blow or drift with wind for hundreds of miles. Testing sites below contrails doesn't work.
Any admission would have to be proven to based in fact. Saying you put something in the air is much different than saying you did and having the tests to prove it. They have to support the facts. And it's not I believe what we are told and don't think for myself. I researched quite a bit, on both sides and found answers that didn't change with science.
Make sure you watch ``chemtrail Evidence pt4`` I will prove 100% beyond a doubt that there is cloud seeding programs operating right now, in America, its not illegal, & there has even been successful injunctions against those responsible, for damages caused by these programs. I found all this info in the public domain! but I bet it wasn't in the news!
So what? That doesn't have anything thing to do with even a small part of the videos shown here labeled as "chemtrails". People have been using planes to make rain for close to 100 years.
generally rh testing is done by weather balloon & this gives you altitudes as well!
have you looked online at rh data?
and how would situ in a jet give you a wide atmospheric reading? the way you say plume & situ reminds me of someone who has attended university and may even have a scientific research background, you are most likely very mislead & possibly brainwashed by the very education you might even still be paying off. Please read the links I sent you and respond with critical thinking
An in situ test will give you a RH reading only on the test being performed. Lots of in situ tests are being made continuously all over the world for decades. All that data is compiled to produce a wide range of atmospheric data. I consider choosing the facts supported by this large amount of data to be thinking. To say I have been misled and brainwashed is both insulting and stupid. Facts support facts. Chemtrails have no facts, no data, no proof. Who is being misled? Not me.
A very valid point. And no doubt will answer most of the concerns of the people on the ground. But the postings of folks who took the trouble to get lab tests and the scientific workers who spoke up, their testimony needs to be addressed.
There is nothing wrong with government possessing secrets. The wrong comes when secrets possess government.
Liberty and freedom are not natural. The experiment needs eternal vigilance.
It may be too easy to dismiss the early warnings until far too late :-0
Only if their testimony can be directly proven to come from a contrail. Seeing spikes in a water supply of an area with contrails does not mean that the trails produced that chemical. That's not a secret, the information is out there, you just chose to believe in the supposition and anecdote and not in science.
I choose to follow facts. Facts, based on valid testing show nothing chemical but those from exhaust.
Carnicom is funny. Humidity on the ground isn't the same in the atmosphere
The atmosphere is not homogenous. Conditions such as temperature, RH, wind speed, and wind direction are different in each layer of the atmosphere. At flight altitude, the temp is around -30F+ . RH is also different. Just because it's 100F and 99% humidity doesn't mean that miles over your head it's not cold and dry. Living in the desert in SW US doesn't mean you have a dry sky at flight altitude. It's very basic atmospheric science. For a cloud or contrail to form, you need high RH.
Your absolutely right, & the non- ``homogeneous`` mix above nm generally averages around 30%...look at it right google ``atmospheric soundings``, the highest reading is 30% &. clouds wont form under 75-85 rh unless you add a nuclei....& persistent ``contrails`` are clouds. Clifford saw this, knew the rh and investigated.
Which there are MANY sources...including the soot particulates in the exhaust itself. But, go ahead...pretend you understand what is going on. I appreciate the laughs.
The stream you see in the the middle at 5:51 is from the APU. Look it up. I love it when the ignorant jump to conclusions. Carnicom included. He's an idiot when it comes to aviation and humidity. He forgets that the jet engine COMPRESSES and CONCENTRATES the ambient air. What a dope.
well there is no point in this, your obviously right. No reason for concern, go drink your fluoridated water & aspartame laced soft drinks. Make sure you get the flu shot & trust the government and army to keep you safe from the terrorists.
My name just reflects the way I am treated by the morons on youtube for having an education in a subject that they will NEVER be educated in. It's a joke, and you don't get it. I'm not surprised. There are a great many things you don't get...that much is obvious. Enjoy your paranoid life. Everything in moderation...
You make so many assumptions. No wonder you fall for bullshit.
exatly, its right in his name. also, pay attention to how he makes claims like some type of expert about this carnicorn and peterson. its classic disinfo, acting from a know it all position to trigger your reptilian primate brain responce, then disputing those he claims dominance over, not with points of argument or facts, but simple mud throwing, 5 yr old, insults. strawman attacks. i know his kind is doing this under promise, but the scorpion always stings the frog
Not when it involves chemtards. Silly alarmists who frighten people with ignorance. No, I can't. And trust me, they treat me worse with the "shill" and "disinfo-agent" bullshit just for trying to help them realize that they are STUPID for acting the way they do. In 50 years, when they are NOT dead from any of this paranoid BULLSHIT, will they look back and appreciate the fact that I TRIED to help them, nope! Ungrateful morons....the lot of you!
You act as if it's about putting you retards "in your place" when, in fact, it's all about BEGGING you morons to educate yourselves properly on the subjects. Gop ahead, act like I'm the bad guy here. It's no skin off my nose. I'm not the one afraid of lines of frozen water vapor in the sky.
I don't think your a bad guy. I was just trying to wind you up cos your rants make me laugh. Chemtrails or contrails doesn't really matter to me anymore, I'm just sick of good days ruined by jets.
Yeah...so that means every trail you see in the sky is full of chemicals. You are a conclusion jumper. Also, they didn't EVER admit to "spraying lines of chemicals" in the sky. The "released" them. You should be more suspicious of ordinary clouds if you use YOUR "logic".
Well, if I wasn't so fascinated with clouds and weather, I'd agree. I love all weather so either way, I'm happy. Who knows, maybe someday they will regulate air traffic somewhat to avoid the conditions for persistent contrails. That would be tough. There are only so many routes they have available between point A and B.
Thing is, they moan about fossil fuels being used up and how we all should be energy efficient but air traffic always seems to be overlooked. A lot of these planes are only half full, they should have less flights with more people. Why is it always the little guy getting blamed? Really gets my goat.
Actually isnt it amazing when the truth is exposed Shillastics account is now closed says it all dont it. PLANT
UkTruthSeeker2009 2 years ago
Shilltastic seems to just crawl around youtube looking for chemtrail videos, maybe its his /hers full time job Ignore,
Its called Weather Modification sulphur dioxide is a human health hazzard other chemicals are used too.
UkTruthSeeker2009 2 years ago
Right now I am looking out my window seeing persistent contrails....
Squidgy55 2 years ago
Great work mindseed
daftraider 2 years ago
There is no doubt this is a airplane spraying something in the airspace over somebodys farmland, subdivision, city or village, state park, schoolyard somewhere in America or Canada. when are we going to demand they, whoever they are, stop this nonsence.
CanadaLarry 2 years ago
Important video and great evidence.
91177info 2 years ago
\\Beware tellonvision is here /// Your either with us or your with the bush-cheney terrorist's.Simple as that.
ahblisschris 2 years ago
Chemtrails ? How absurd! Who in there right mind would poison human beings on purpose? We may know the real reason very soon .......Have you gone DIGITAL yet ? Better hurry . It's about to happen.
ahblisschris 2 years ago
lol maybe you can mod you refresh rate.
I have been looking into many different angles in this chemtrail theory and with the patents and technology available....
criticalmindseed 2 years ago
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.
( Aldous Huxley )
Why is the government allowing this? Why the rationale of such activity is not in the public domain? Media not bought up by the Big Money sorely needed to allow public discussion.
CommanderUTube 2 years ago 3
Maybe because any valid testing done has shown nothing in a contrail beside the products of combustion of jet fuel through a jet engine. News people usually like to stick to facts. There are no real facts found to support a chemtrail program...just a lot of stories, hearsay, supposition, suspicion, and lack of knowledge of atmospheric and aviation sciences. People not knowing science is not news.
The only ones ignoring facts are CT believers.
stars15k 2 years ago
first of all, define valid testing?
second, the only fact you are looking for is somebody in the govt or on the news saying that they are indeed using a chemtrail program. Is this admission going to change most peoples belief in such a program? yes. But this just proves that we only believe what we are told and do not think for ourselves.
criticalmindseed 2 years ago
Valid testing is done only in situ, from the plume itself at altitude within moments of forming. Ground level tests are problematic for several reasons;
* The don't account for ground-level background contamination
* They can't be used to pinpoint their source as from a plume in the atmosphere.
* Aerosols in the atmosphere are known to remain suspended for hours or days and will blow or drift with wind for hundreds of miles. Testing sites below contrails doesn't work.
stars15k 2 years ago
Any admission would have to be proven to based in fact. Saying you put something in the air is much different than saying you did and having the tests to prove it. They have to support the facts. And it's not I believe what we are told and don't think for myself. I researched quite a bit, on both sides and found answers that didn't change with science.
stars15k 2 years ago
Ok this isn't even a question any more.
Make sure you watch ``chemtrail Evidence pt4`` I will prove 100% beyond a doubt that there is cloud seeding programs operating right now, in America, its not illegal, & there has even been successful injunctions against those responsible, for damages caused by these programs. I found all this info in the public domain! but I bet it wasn't in the news!
criticalmindseed 2 years ago
So what? That doesn't have anything thing to do with even a small part of the videos shown here labeled as "chemtrails". People have been using planes to make rain for close to 100 years.
stars15k 2 years ago
generally rh testing is done by weather balloon & this gives you altitudes as well!
have you looked online at rh data?
and how would situ in a jet give you a wide atmospheric reading? the way you say plume & situ reminds me of someone who has attended university and may even have a scientific research background, you are most likely very mislead & possibly brainwashed by the very education you might even still be paying off. Please read the links I sent you and respond with critical thinking
criticalmindseed 2 years ago
An in situ test will give you a RH reading only on the test being performed. Lots of in situ tests are being made continuously all over the world for decades. All that data is compiled to produce a wide range of atmospheric data. I consider choosing the facts supported by this large amount of data to be thinking. To say I have been misled and brainwashed is both insulting and stupid. Facts support facts. Chemtrails have no facts, no data, no proof. Who is being misled? Not me.
stars15k 2 years ago
A very valid point. And no doubt will answer most of the concerns of the people on the ground. But the postings of folks who took the trouble to get lab tests and the scientific workers who spoke up, their testimony needs to be addressed.
There is nothing wrong with government possessing secrets. The wrong comes when secrets possess government.
Liberty and freedom are not natural. The experiment needs eternal vigilance.
It may be too easy to dismiss the early warnings until far too late :-0
CommanderUTube 2 years ago
Only if their testimony can be directly proven to come from a contrail. Seeing spikes in a water supply of an area with contrails does not mean that the trails produced that chemical. That's not a secret, the information is out there, you just chose to believe in the supposition and anecdote and not in science.
I choose to follow facts. Facts, based on valid testing show nothing chemical but those from exhaust.
Carnicom is funny. Humidity on the ground isn't the same in the atmosphere
stars15k 2 years ago
your right, but your comment shows you do not pay attention to the facts, he lives and does his testing in the desert......
Why don`t you tell me what that means to RH?
criticalmindseed 2 years ago
The atmosphere is not homogenous. Conditions such as temperature, RH, wind speed, and wind direction are different in each layer of the atmosphere. At flight altitude, the temp is around -30F+ . RH is also different. Just because it's 100F and 99% humidity doesn't mean that miles over your head it's not cold and dry. Living in the desert in SW US doesn't mean you have a dry sky at flight altitude. It's very basic atmospheric science. For a cloud or contrail to form, you need high RH.
stars15k 2 years ago
Your absolutely right, & the non- ``homogeneous`` mix above nm generally averages around 30%...look at it right google ``atmospheric soundings``, the highest reading is 30% &. clouds wont form under 75-85 rh unless you add a nuclei....& persistent ``contrails`` are clouds. Clifford saw this, knew the rh and investigated.
criticalmindseed 2 years ago
"unless you add a nuclei"
Which there are MANY sources...including the soot particulates in the exhaust itself. But, go ahead...pretend you understand what is going on. I appreciate the laughs.
The stream you see in the the middle at 5:51 is from the APU. Look it up. I love it when the ignorant jump to conclusions. Carnicom included. He's an idiot when it comes to aviation and humidity. He forgets that the jet engine COMPRESSES and CONCENTRATES the ambient air. What a dope.
Shilltastic 2 years ago
Oops...I made a mistake (At least I can admit it!) "Humidity" should have been "meteorology".
And it's DEFINITELY worth repeating, Carnicom is an IDIOT when it comes to aviation and meteorology. So is that old twat Rosalind Peterson.
Shilltastic 2 years ago
well there is no point in this, your obviously right. No reason for concern, go drink your fluoridated water & aspartame laced soft drinks. Make sure you get the flu shot & trust the government and army to keep you safe from the terrorists.
.lol your name says it all.
criticalmindseed 2 years ago
My name just reflects the way I am treated by the morons on youtube for having an education in a subject that they will NEVER be educated in. It's a joke, and you don't get it. I'm not surprised. There are a great many things you don't get...that much is obvious. Enjoy your paranoid life. Everything in moderation...
You make so many assumptions. No wonder you fall for bullshit.
Shilltastic 2 years ago
@criticalmindseed
exatly, its right in his name. also, pay attention to how he makes claims like some type of expert about this carnicorn and peterson. its classic disinfo, acting from a know it all position to trigger your reptilian primate brain responce, then disputing those he claims dominance over, not with points of argument or facts, but simple mud throwing, 5 yr old, insults. strawman attacks. i know his kind is doing this under promise, but the scorpion always stings the frog
Psy0pAgent 1 year ago
Are you capable of writing a comment without insulting someone?
Squidgy55 2 years ago
Not when it involves chemtards. Silly alarmists who frighten people with ignorance. No, I can't. And trust me, they treat me worse with the "shill" and "disinfo-agent" bullshit just for trying to help them realize that they are STUPID for acting the way they do. In 50 years, when they are NOT dead from any of this paranoid BULLSHIT, will they look back and appreciate the fact that I TRIED to help them, nope! Ungrateful morons....the lot of you!
Shilltastic 2 years ago
lol, good rant. You really put us chemtards in our place. When's the next one, I can't wait.
Squidgy55 2 years ago
You act as if it's about putting you retards "in your place" when, in fact, it's all about BEGGING you morons to educate yourselves properly on the subjects. Gop ahead, act like I'm the bad guy here. It's no skin off my nose. I'm not the one afraid of lines of frozen water vapor in the sky.
Shilltastic 2 years ago
I don't think your a bad guy. I was just trying to wind you up cos your rants make me laugh. Chemtrails or contrails doesn't really matter to me anymore, I'm just sick of good days ruined by jets.
Squidgy55 2 years ago
are you not educated in history?? they have sprayed us before and hid it from us. this is fact!!!
criticalmindseed 2 years ago
Yeah...so that means every trail you see in the sky is full of chemicals. You are a conclusion jumper. Also, they didn't EVER admit to "spraying lines of chemicals" in the sky. The "released" them. You should be more suspicious of ordinary clouds if you use YOUR "logic".
Shilltastic 2 years ago
I'm still sick of air traffic ruining our skies.
Squidgy55 2 years ago
Well, if I wasn't so fascinated with clouds and weather, I'd agree. I love all weather so either way, I'm happy. Who knows, maybe someday they will regulate air traffic somewhat to avoid the conditions for persistent contrails. That would be tough. There are only so many routes they have available between point A and B.
Shilltastic 2 years ago
Thing is, they moan about fossil fuels being used up and how we all should be energy efficient but air traffic always seems to be overlooked. A lot of these planes are only half full, they should have less flights with more people. Why is it always the little guy getting blamed? Really gets my goat.
Squidgy55 2 years ago
"A lot of these planes are only half full, they should have less flights with more people. "
Again we agree. I'm glad we found some common ground.
Shilltastic 2 years ago
Me too man, regardless of contrail/chemtrail arguments these issues need addressing.
Squidgy55 2 years ago
nice post, ive never seen this channel 4 report
i cant believe they actually did a story on chemtrails without calling it a "crazy conspiracy theory"
cerpinTHEmute 2 years ago