9/11 inside job-Thermite and what it can do to steel beams

[roquefortfiles]

When this Jonathon Cole dude erects an exact copy of a column section from the WTC then tries his little terrorist rube Goldberg contraption of death on it. I might be impressed. The steel he is using here is in NO WAY a load bearing column comparable to the WTC.

This video is quite ridiculous really.

[PurePowerPunk]

@roquefortfiles the only person who had their hat and cane handed to them, was you my friend.

I guess all demo companies should go to the method of lighting small brush fires in buildings to level them now, seeing that's how building 7 was brought down.

[roquefortfiles]

@PurePowerPunk LOL!! You have got to be kidding me?. (Stay away from the debate team!!)

A direct quote from a fireman on scene at 7 (Taken from the oral histories.. have you read it?... no!!)

QUOTE!!

When the building came down it was completely involved in fire, all forty-seven stories.

–FDNY Assistant Chief Harry Myers

(What part of all 47 stories constitutes small brush fires?)

Maybe you can explain that one to me.

Would you like your cane?

[PurePowerPunk]

@roquefortfiles LMFWAO, Dude you lost the moment you left me a comment. I shut you down on everything you've said, you flat out ignored my facts then try throwing some garbage theory in my face, then you get shot down with my facts.

Yeah, show me a picture or video of some blazing inferno, then I'll show other steal framed buildings truly up in flames, burning from 10 to 20 plus hours and didn't come down, so again, do some real research and stop rambling.

[roquefortfiles]

@PurePowerPunk The only thing you are making fun of are the people who were there. Not me. That is from a fireman who was there. And again. Have you read the oral histories? (no!!). Everyone and their dog was expecting 7 to come down. So how is this a conspiracy? Ashley Banfield of CNN knew this. Ashley is a psychic now is she?

You keep saying "Facts" what facts? Nobody found ONE item relating to a CD.

That's a fact my friend.

[roquefortfiles]

@PurePowerPunk How bout another direct quote?

"We heard reports all day long of 7 World Trade possibly coming down. ...We heard that all day long, all the warnings." –Firefighter Christopher Patrick Murray

(No they had no clue it was coming down)

You don't blow up buildings with a powdered incendiary dude. And nobody found zip relating to a CD. In fact a CD team watched it come down.

So what other "FACTS" are you going to foist on us?

I am sure you'll find one.

[PurePowerPunk]

@roquefortfiles lol, give it up man, you lost already, there's no sense in repeating myself, I gave you the facts, look them up and do some real research.

Good day to you and have a merry christmas and happy new year, take care now.

[roquefortfiles]

@PurePowerPunk LOL!! Explain it to me like I am a 5 year old. What "FACTS"?

If you are talking about Thermite? NO!! This is not a substance any professional would EVER use for a CD. You're on glue if you think a bucket full of this stuff is going to melt apart load bearing steel columns..

And nobody found nothing relating a CD.

So what's left?

Care to explain Mr "research!!

[roquefortfiles]

This stuff is silly nonsense. People who are wowed by this crap have no understanding of Controlled Demolitions. This is not a material that would EVER be used for this. And it is not going to be accomplished with a couple of buckets of "Thermite"

[PurePowerPunk]

@roquefortfiles it's not nonsense, it's facts. I base everything on facts, not fiction or theory.

To many facts point to our government allowing or did 9/11.

[roquefortfiles]

@PurePowerPunk Facts? There is not a CD expert anywhere who ever consider using this material. It is not used to implode buildings. And i know what I am talking about. It also lacked some very key ingredients that were not present and would HAVE to be.

Jones quietly doesn't like to talk about that though.

Explosives do not pulverize concrete floors. Nor does Thermite.

What does?

Massive amounts of weight.

That's a fact

[PurePowerPunk]

@roquefortfiles Again, start from the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, and how our own goverment funded, allowed and carried it out, look it up and research it for yourself.

That by it's self should throw up a red flag for you, get back to me after you've looked it up.

[roquefortfiles]

@PurePowerPunk Urban myth nonsense. Ramzi Yusuf was the guy planning that. Arrested in the Philippines if i recall.

What is your start point for all of this conspiracy stuff? Where is square one? Every hijacker was confirmed on the aircraft thru multiple verifiable credible sources. The terrorists were in control of the planes. Next stop WTC.

Where is the Government or George Bush in that equation? Serving drinks in coach? Explain it to me like I am a 5 year old.

[roquefortfiles]

@PurePowerPunk To many facts point to our government allowing or did 9/11.

Ever stop to consider how each WTC collapsed EXACTLY as it was hit? Not only that but in the MANNER in which it was damaged.  WTC 1 hit square to the core with half as much load above the impact point. Lasts 2x as long and collapses straight down. WTC 2 hit off center to the east. WOW.. collapses off center... to the East side. 2x the load above the impact..lasts half as long.

Its not coincidence.

[PurePowerPunk]

@roquefortfiles wrong, watch the video of the world trade center as it slid off the top sideways, so there is no pancake effect so to speak, also you should realize those buildings came down as if you where to drop a ball from that exact height, meaning no resistance, meaning some sort of explosives used to bring them down.

Get your facts in order then came talk to me, you avoid my facts that I've pointed out, FACTS not fiction.

[PurePowerPunk]

@roquefortfiles wrong, watch the video of the world trade center as it slid off the top sideways, so there is no pancake effect so to speak, also you should realize those buildings came down as if you where to drop a ball from that exact height, meaning no resistance, meaning some sort of explosives used to bring them down.

Get your facts in order then came talk to me, you avoid my facts that I've pointed out, FACTS not fiction.

[roquefortfiles]

@PurePowerPunk The free fall thing about them falling as fast as a ball dropped from that height is a fallacy. There is a physics guy who worked it out on a graph. I will have to find the link. They are falling nowhere near free fall speed. And all you need to do is look at WTC 1. There are column sections falling in mid air that are absolutely falling in free fall (you can see it) the rest of the building is 10 stories behind them falling much slower.

[roquefortfiles]

@PurePowerPunk Get your facts in order then came talk to me

Um. ok. Its not possible to have the collapsing portion of the building running 10 stories above the debris field which IS floating in mid air and you can plainly see column sections twisting in the breeze. They are free falling for sure. The debris that is liberated is free falling. Not the building collapsing in the cloud of dust 10 stories above that.

Go look at it.

Them's facts my friend.

[ketmaniac]

1. What was the thickness of the steel in the column section that you cut through?

2. What weight or volume of molten steel did you produce?

[PurePowerPunk]

@ketmaniac  I didn't make the video guy,sorry.

[roquefortfiles]

Ahh yes the THERMITIC BOX CUTTER OF DEATH!!!!.

And where are these in the debris pile?

Oh yeah!! There aren't any.

[PurePowerPunk]

@roquefortfiles umm yeah, because all the evidence was taken away in over 150 dump trucks and shipped off to China the very next, which is breaking the law, you CAN NOT remove evidence from a crime scene, guess you knew that already? And yeah!! Nobody was put on trial for that crime by it's self.

[roquefortfiles]

@PurePowerPunk Um.. Sorry but the buildings were 500,000 tons a piece. No matter how you want to slice it that much debris ain't going nowhere fast. Plenty of time to walk over things and look at material close up. Specific sections were even pulled aside and identified down to the floors they came from.

Nothing "Unusual" was found.

[PurePowerPunk]

@roquefortfiles umm wrong again, mayor giuliani was on TV bragging how they got over 150 trucks in there that same night removing all the debris, look it up on the net and youtube.

They destroyed all the evidence,but not the dust clouds which had thermite found in it, look that up as well, to much proof to lead the government allowed or played a part in 9/11.

Don't say they would never, look up how the FBI funded, plotted and allowed the 1993 WTC bombing, again more facts.

[roquefortfiles]

@PurePowerPunk Pull out the yellow pages and call up any demolition company and ask them to use Thermite on your next building implosion. Then wait for the long pause and the laughter to start. Because that is what you would get.

This is not a substance that any professional in CD would EVER use for this. It wouldn't happen. It requires high explosives. Don't kid yourself.

These thermite stories are silly silly stuff.

[PurePowerPunk]

@roquefortfiles 2nd, the phoenix memo. Do your research on this too. I'm a prior service member, so any type of threat should and would have been taken very highly, but our former president and secretary of state lied and brushed this off???

They where confirmed? There passports where confirmed stolen, those magical terriost where never on any flight logs and 5 out of the 19 where found alive after 9/11, those are some neat tricks, wouldn't you say?

[roquefortfiles]

@PurePowerPunk They don't list the terrorists on flight logs because they were not innocent civilians who were murdered. Those are the people on the flight logs.

Ticket agent, the on board flight crew and the ground operations at each airline confirmed every hijacker on the plane. They knew who they were while the event was unfolding. These people have also been interviewed about this.

They're lying? That's allot of credible people you have to toss under the bus!!

[PurePowerPunk]

@roquefortfiles I like how you avoid the facts I throw at you 1st, remember we are taking it step by step, just like everyone else like yourself, avoid the facts.

[roquefortfiles]

@PurePowerPunk What facts? You guys don't seem to get it. You have found nothing. Thermite is not a substance used to take down buildings. If you think load bearing columns are going to be sizzled in two by a bucket of thermite? You're on glue.

A team of CD technicians were AT building 7 when it came down. I don't think i need to spell out the significance of that. And nothing was found in the WTC relating to a CD.

So what "Facts" am i missing?

[roquefortfiles]

@PurePowerPunk You know what I'd like to see? I would like to see Richard Gage and all his 911 Bum Buddies get some funding and set up a replica column section of the WTC ext or Int columns or a reasonable facsimile there of and load it up in whatever manner they wish with this silly Nanothermite nonsense and show the world how this theory doesn't work. (Because it wouldn't).

But they have no interest in doing this. They are only interested in seminars and powerpoint BS

[PurePowerPunk]

@roquefortfiles There's computer animations of building 7 on the net, it FAILED big time compared to how the real thing fell.

Do you not a singe pilot could hit the wtc 1 and 2 in a computer simulation? But some how these masterful hijackers did? Now that's a load of bullshit, if you can't come back with any facts then why bother? You ignore my facts and bring more nonesense,and insult people, that's pretty rude pal.

[roquefortfiles]

@PurePowerPunk The more you speak the more you show yourself to not understand what you are talking about. There is video on YT. (I will send you the link). It has the NIST B7 simulation and the actual footage of the building collapsing in a split screen running at the same time.

I think you will see that both line up...............PERFECTLY.

Have i insulted you? No.

[PurePowerPunk]

@roquefortfiles The more you speak the more you show how uneducated you are to 9/11.

Right, the nist video shows the building twisting and make sure you watch the complete version of it, because its plain as day, it doesn't match up how building 7 fell, any 3rd grader could tell you that.

You have insulted me in your last message, now you got in return, everything you've tried to say,has been countered with FACTS. Sorry pal, you failed.

[roquefortfiles]

@PurePowerPunk Have you seen the video i speak of? They run footage of 7 collapsing and beside it runs the NIST computer simulation. (Which BTW was gleaned from every available video).

They line up perfectly.

The only way one couldn't agree is if Stevie Wonder was watching it.

[PurePowerPunk]

@roquefortfiles no, you never sent it to me. The NIST video shows building 7 twist and does NOT match up.

2nd, NIST lied about quite a few things, so you like Stevie Wonder, really have not looked in to it.

You're a very close minded person, and just don't want to see the FACTS I've said to you, shown you and explained, that's what's wrong with this country, but hey I'm not telling you anything you already don't know.

[roquefortfiles]

@PurePowerPunk You keep droning on about "FACTS" What facts?

Fact 1 nobody found anything relating to a CD at any of the buildings. A team of CD techs were already at B7 when it dropped.

FACT 2 The steel failed from a prolonged exposure to fire a "rapid erosion event" that was not thermitic or explosive in nature ( I've seen the metallurgist talk about it)

FACT 3. The entire FDNY fully expected B7 to collapse. It was no mystery or smoking gun.

You want to add to that?

[PurePowerPunk]

@roquefortfiles Fact 1, studies were just published in August 2008 and April 2009. Alarming, conducted by a highly credible scientist, and the scientific papers showing the methods, data, and conclusions of the study, are hosted by an ACADEMIC UNIVERSITY: Bringham Young University- Failed attempt by you again.

Fact 2, Steel weakens at a temp of around 1,400 degrees F, most of the jet fule burned off during impact- Falied fact 2 by yourself again.

[PurePowerPunk]

@roquefortfiles Fact 3, yes they knew, but how many of the FDNY reported secondary explosions going off? How many eye witnesses reported it? Thousands buddy, so yet again, so some REAL research and don't forget all my other credible facts I pointed out as well, that you failed you research and flat out ignored.

Now, go troll someone else with your lack of facts and ignorant statements, good day to you sir.

[roquefortfiles]

@PurePowerPunk Frank Papalia and Dan Nigro (Only in charge!!) Watched it collapse. They heard nothing. No charges or explosions. (Want the link?) There are half a dozen videos of 7 coming down. Even one live on air at CNN as Ashley Banfield is doing a report. It doesn't make a sound.

Explosives? Hardly!!

Have you read the firemen oral histories? I doubt it. These people were there. You're scientist buddy was not.

Who do you want to pay attention to?

[PurePowerPunk]

@roquefortfiles Let me shut you down once again, it seems like you just enjoy being schooled by myself.

This video simply shows that thermate or thermite can cut threw a steal beam. Also in 1935 thermite was used to bring down Skyride tower which weighed 3 million pounds,taller then WTC 7 and 1,500 pounds of thermite was used to melt and cut the steal beams.

[roquefortfiles]

@PurePowerPunk it seems like you just enjoy being schooled by myself.

I could hand you your hat and cane my friend.

Tell you what. You pull out the yellow pages and call up any demolition company and ask them to use thermite on your next building implosion. (Do it.. i dare you.. but you wont will you?).

They would laugh your ass out the door. This requires high explosives. Not an incredibly slow burning incendiary. Explosives are used not sparkler material.

[PurePowerPunk]

@roquefortfiles I can show you video of explosions going off, prior to the fall. Again, thousands of eye wintesses stating" HEARING EXPLOSIONS".

I will say it for the last time, you have NOT DONE YOUR RESEARCH from both sides, I have myself.

[PurePowerPunk]

@roquefortfiles watch?v=wUXGhLrDqb0&feature=re­lated

There ya go pal, look at the Firefighters, news reporters, people inside the building, ALL STATING the same exact thing.

SECONDARY EXPLOSIONS!

[roquefortfiles]

@PurePowerPunk Explosions in a major fire is not news. Ask any fireman. Pressure vessels and aerosols etc. A great many of these "Secondary explosions" were firemen who were never even aware a second plane had hit the other building. Your in a stairway and BOOM. Then over reported 50 times by news media.

Care to point out on this video where your "explosions" are happening? I would go so far as to say its quiet here. Ambient street sounds about it!!

watch?v=8Mz0_x7313I

[breakit46]

Good video.

Now to get the people who planned 911 into court under oath. Hopefully they will continue to lie and then go straight to jail.

10 years have passed and 'They' must think that it is impossible to be held to account now- let's prove them wrong and never forget this, Never Let It Go.

[AmericaSpeakOut1]

@breakit46 >> Now to get the people who planned 911 into court under oath.

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, one of the masterminds, was in fact waterboarded and spilled the beans. He is the uncle of Ramzi Yousef, the mastermind behind the first World Trade Center attack in 1993.

Then there's the guy who told the whole world of his victory on 9/11 - but the US news media tried to keep it from you...

silcom*com/~vikman/Politics/sa­ddam_mural.html

[PurePowerPunk]

@AmericaSpeakOut1 the FBI planned, funded and allowed the 1993 wtc bombing, look it up, there's audio on youtube.

[AmericaSpeakOut1]

There's a reason the steel beams were originally coated with fireproofing insulation. Because when warmed up, steel loses strength. In an uncontrolled fire, the beams get hot enough to be unable to support the weight above...

The airplane smashed in, tore away the insulation then the fuel burned fiercely creating a forced-air furnace effect.

The result was rather predictable.

That's why the insulation was on there in the first place.

[PurePowerPunk]

@AmericaSpeakOut1 lol, fail. Did you know the 1st tower had an overhaul of fire installation done in the same exact floors where the plane hit-fact 1.

Fact 2- Moleten steal pooring out of the towers CAN NOT be done by or produce by the raging and so called inferno you speak of.

Fact 3- Building 7 smoking gun, controlled demo. Thermate found in the dust clounds.

[marmaladekamikaze]

@PurePowerPunk

So althought I commend the person who put this video together to expose the sloppy work by Nat Geo, I think there is a problem, you are saying that the planes pilots had to hit a certain section of floors for the thermite-loaded into the beams of the 'exact' floors'- to burn and bring down the building. Problem 1-how would the conspirators in your theory, be capable of ensuring that the planes impact wouldn't have knocked loaded beams out into the street? thus foiling the plan.

[roquefortfiles]

@marmaladekamikaze None of this Controlled demolition nonsense makes shred of sense. If the aim is to kill people (Which it did lets not forget). Our "Baddies" could have killed everyone in the building if they set it off upon the aircraft impacts. Why bother to wait an hour and a half?

I kind of doubt this is the the "kinder gentler" conspiracy operation.

You're going to spend weeks rigging this up and then give people a "chance" to survive it?

Ridiculous.

[PurePowerPunk]

@roquefortfiles again, you did not research this instead call it urban myth nonsense, you fail to realize the so called nutcase and master mind behind it, recorded the phone calls and planning by our OWN FBI, here's a good clip for you......

watch?v=E0Y4Qaap6SM.

Don't be so close minded and watch for yourself, then do some real research on just this.

[PurePowerPunk]

@AmericaSpeakOut1 Don't you find it odd where the two planes hit, just weeks prior they had both towers recoated with fire proofing in the same exact area's where the planes hit???

Most of the fuel burnt off in the initial crash, which means the fires would not be hot enough to weaken the steal to the point of failure, yes it may have lost strength, but no way they should have failed.

To many thing point to an inside job or our government allowed it to happen.

[AmericaSpeakOut1]

@PurePowerPunk I would be ASTONISHED if those amateur pilots were able to hit the buildings at exactly the floors you claim were specially treated weeks before the attack.

The fires were raging fiercely when the buildings failed. Watch the National Geographic DVD. Molten steel pouring out as fire billows from the shattered structure, then the corner of the building buckles, then the collapse starts.

There's no evidence of an inside job.

[AmericaSpeakOut1]

@PurePowerPunk I'm intrigued that so many "useful idiots" keep their focus on the World Trade Center towers, when in fact there were four planes sent to attack targets that day. Do you think there were also explosives hidden in the US Capitol in preparation for an aircraft striking there?

Do you think there were explosives placed in the wall of the Pentagon building at exactly the location the plane would strike as well?

Do you know that smoking pot can cause paranoia?

[truth911today]

amazing video

[spinydelta1]

Thank you so much for your time and effort with this video.

[SandroCamarao]

Thanks for taking the time, money and thinking to prove that thermate, a substance weaker than thermite, can slice steel. True American ingenuity.

[TheJosh1111111111111]

I'm surpised this video hasn't been removed. 5 stars

[onefodderunit]

@TheJosh1111111111111

Why would this video be banned? Thermite didn't burn the Twin Towers down. That's why there's no flames and sparks lighting them up like enormous sparklers. They turn to dust in mid air. Watch the evidence right here on youtube,

High Definition Clip of WTC Turning to Dust on 9/11 (Slow Motion)

/watch?v=dueVm1UGvXo

Neither heat nor pressure wave did this. Think of alternative energies.

[twangthing]

Thank you!!!!! This must have taken a lot of time, energy and work. I make things with wood and that seems like child play compared to this. Thank goodness for guys like you that want to know for sure...

[Halfstar3]

That was really intriguing. Thankyou so much for enlightening us. Kind regards.

[ACapillary]

This was actually very good.

[blueshadow1996]

..hmmmmmmm looks more like molten aluminum .Where would it come from..The Plane that was on fire inside the building...Of course the fire was not hot eough to melt steel..But it did cause viscoelastic thermal expansion....Who would be right..ask any gunsmith or blacksmith how easily steel will weaken once red hot..Ask a welder why they have type T1 steel on steel frame structures?,,

[deniapavao]

Powerful Video. Thankyou very much for your clear and detailed look into thermite. A true American you are sir. Great work.

[PurePowerPunk]

@deniapavao Thanks man, same with you and your uploads!