Re: George Tiller argument: Wow aren't you clever, George the witch! And you are pushing your beliefs on peopl, THAT"S THE POINT OF YOUR VIDEOS. I think abortion is wrong but it's sick to shoot someone because they don't share your beliefs, that's one reason why we're in the middle east, not everyone's a christian and not everyone has to be, and I agree with you that abortion is wrong and it's murderous and should only be used if the women was molested, the baby will die, or she will die.
This guy bemoans that creationists are made fun of.
Well, with videos like this, how can it not be expected? LOL
Nothing he says follows and he gives no evidence for a "Young Earth" or to denounce evolution. He just says "this makes no sense" to anything he doesn't understand!
There's nothing wrong with saying "God was the force behind creation" but to say that to believe in God means to not believe in evolution is illogical.
Yes, I agree! The vids are amusing - that's why I've looked at some of them!
What I wonder is how much he really believes in his rather extreme and hypocritical positions or if he's just trying to get a reaction and attention by making such videos?
I would think if he REALLY believed what he says, he would have been willing to DEFEND his points more instead of disabling comments on so many videos and disabling comments to his personal inbox from the "uninvited" - LOL
Of all the retarded thinking that I have come across, you are a front-runner, no question.For fuck's sake, give your head a shake. Do you really think you know more than scientists who have made it their life's work studying the evolution of life, just because you read ONE BOOK, a book written by ignorant, superstitious goat herders? You believe in women turning to salt, men living inside fish, and then, want credibility among learned people? Go lie down in the corner and lick your nuts.
I know the christian explanation for UFO's and alien greys = demons trying to decieve the public. Why aren't they doing this with everyone? If devils are trying to decieve mankind, then why not make the UFO phenomena more evident to the general public instead of a small minority of people? THEN YOU ALSO HAVE TO WONDER, are demons mortal, because alien grays are, in fact, Philip Schneider shot and killed two of these guys in an underground base before they nearly pulverized him? Explain!?
This video is an uneducated lie...The wheel is a great example of evolution an airplain needs a wheel but the wheel dosnt need the airplain...the wheel helps the airplain get to speed and fly, without a wheel the airplain is a movie theatre
Spontaneous generation and abiogenesis are not the same. Key differences include the amount of time, the conditions, the number of occurrences, and the complexity of life produced.
George Wald, writing back in 1954? The first prominent origin of life experiment was not conducted until 1953 (Miller's). Wald wrote just 1 year after that experiment: uhm, it's been 55 years since then.
well...you are definately doing what creationist do best...and that is quotemining. And that is truly disgusting and dishonest method.
For example you left out what darwin has to say after he talks about transitional forms. He says that answer must lie in the extreme incompleteness of geological record. But hey ends justify the means rigth? Who cares if you lie a bit. It'n not like lying is sin or something. ;)
Derived Ape.., I did mention that. I also mentioned wat a palentologiest said 120 years later. After 250,000 fossil records there is still the problem with transitional forms. The reason is because there is not such thing as evolution. Its a joke.
@kryptologos Transitional forms have been found in abundance. We just haven't uncovered the billions of species-to-species transitions that would fill in all the gaps. Anyway, just imagine how crowded the Ark would have been with tens of thousands of extra animal forms that have been found in the fossil record. Do you need to be shown in great detail all the transitions which have already been uncovered, or will you just ignore them all and point to the gaps?
DerivedApe: If Im not mistaken, Darwin said that you would see missing links in the fossils, yet to be discovered. This is also why people all over the globe started to produce false "links" between ape and man, Peking man, piltdown man, lucy etc etc. If your statement is correct, then it was misunderstood by pretty much the entire world of scientists.
transitional fossil and missing links...such unnecessary terms. Look...if we are to test hypothesis then we must first assume that hypothesis is true. If we accept evolutionary hypothesis then we must also accept that all organisms are related and that phenotypic and genotypic carachters have been passed down via mendelian laws. To accept the hypothesis to test it means that every single fossil that we find is transitional in one sence or another.
Also...don't try to create conspiracy when there is none. Piltdown was hoax and was shown to be so by scientists. That one was the only true hoax. others like nebraska man were misinterpertation based on fragmented material.
None of these examples are used anymore in any textbook.
It's kindof funny how outraged you guys are about old hoaxes but completely fail to recognize that creationists have made some 20 hoaxed items to boost their own ideas. Why aren't you outraged by those hoaxes?
DerivedApe: You may choose to believe whatever you want, you err when you say that it is truth. Nor do I speak of creationists. What I do speak of is this: Evolution is a religion, that believe it is supported by science. The Bible tells us of a different story. What you choose to believe does not change the Truth.
DerivedApe: Well, science is not a matter of belief, I agree. But when you conclude, despite of what the evidence tells you, then you believe. Evolution is not proved not even the slightest. A common argument, is that "most scientists dont believe in creation" and by your statement they are wrong, since Truth is not democratic. Heck, oppinions does not have any impact whatsoever on the truth.
yes I agree..truth is not and can't ever be democratic. However it puzzles me how can you believe in the bibles word. You do know that everything that is in the bible now was voted there on council of nicaea. Thus bible is democratic truth and not truth at all.
There are tons of evidence for evolution and you know it.
DerivedApe: You speak of tons of truth of evolution. Show me? Have you considered that in regard of C14, earth has not yet achieved Equilibrium? That the speed of Light is not Constant? (Scientists did experiements, where they stopped the speed of Light, and increased it to 300x the speed of Light.)The Bible, speaks the truth until proven wrong, prove it wrong? :)
DerivedApe: What I meant with the inconsistency of C14, and the speed of Light. If the governing factor that you use to date items, is not constant, then you have no idea what you are measuring. If you did not have the Geological Column, you would not have a standard. This means, you have not proven the Geological Column, since it cannot prove itself.
eh? no...it's definately consistent. We can build geological column based on dating methods. We don't need geological columns blueprint to get consistent results. Infact the modern charts are more accurate thanks to the dating methods.
I i remeber correctly there are about 60 different dating methods and all produce consistent results on the age of the earth.
I would like to get your answer why do you think bible is the truth and why do you believe in democratic truth?
DerivedApe: I do not believe in democratic truth, I clearly stated that. Now, perhaps you should do a google on the speed of light, it is not constant. You can claim it all you want, or you can go check out the reasearch that was done. Just do a google search "Light not constant"
DerivedApe: I do not think the Bible is the truth, I believe it. You believe Evolution is the Truth, you cannot prove it. I do not need proof to believe God created everything, and I do enjoy the fact that Science prove creation. (hehe I hear you are murmuring :P)
DerivedApe: You do know, that you date the Geological Layers of Stratification on the index fossils, and that you date the fossils based on what layers they are found in, and that if any dating does not match the geological column, they get booted out and retested? (27k year old living snail f.eks. :)
DerivedApe: The reason you refuse to conclude the obvious, that we were created, is simple yet sad: You do not wish to take responsebility for your actions, nor be responsible or accountable to anyone or any authority. You do not wish anyone to tell you how to lead your life. So you create a death cult and worship death. The idea that Death creates Life is just stupid.
So you spend Part I saying how all these noble winning scientists are wrong but George Wald is 'ok' just 'cause? pdoeman is right, your not really researching this stuff. Those people that say the Flagellum can't be evolved aren't right...they're just LAZY. There ARE scientists who have been able to show how the parts that make it up exist in other forms. Same for the Eye. It's amazing biology but weak sauce to just say "Wow this is hard to figure out...God did it!...lunch time!"
Pdoeman, I didn't do any research??? How do you think I got this stuff. It is in your books not ours. Your so called scientist have admitted to these things. Are you saying they have changed their mind? How many times do they change their mind? LOL. Evolution is a big joke and those who believe it have fallen for it.
LOL. evolution is a joke, but the guy in the sky that reads everyone's minds, is 3 people wrapped in one, and has no beginning or end is totally true. Gotta love that theist logic
Are you not at least 3 persons in 1. Further He is the beginning and He is the end. It takes less faith to believe that there is a designer than to believe in evolution which has proven to all that this is no way could have been done by chance.
@kryptologos What? Evolution could have not occured by chance? No lie! Evolution is not about blind chance. It's about the stochastic process of differential reproduction rates, largely guided by adaptation to a changing environment. That's roughly equivalent to playing with loaded dice.
Pdoeman: Whenever an evolutionist state that Science have proved that the earth is billion of years, fail to understand what science is. It is not religion, nor is it absolute. Their view will change, did you know that they have discovered that Light is not Constant, that it is moving slower. This makes dating close to impossible.
pdoeman: The idea is this. Theory of Evolution is a religion. Yes Micro evolution does occur, it does not warp into macro if you just give it some time. Due to the laws that are around us, stuff dies with time. Now you must explain how death is a positive and creating force. Once you do that, you must create Life by Killing things, or from dead material, inorganic. You do have a problem explaining that.
Rehash of all the predictable creationist talking points.
prschuster 1 year ago
How did lightning evolve?
and how does lightning make the first self replicating organisms from hitting mud?...and why dont we see it today?????????????
5tonyvvvv 1 year ago
wow those are some amazing facts your are showing
lol
drhodad 1 year ago
Re: George Tiller argument: Wow aren't you clever, George the witch! And you are pushing your beliefs on peopl, THAT"S THE POINT OF YOUR VIDEOS. I think abortion is wrong but it's sick to shoot someone because they don't share your beliefs, that's one reason why we're in the middle east, not everyone's a christian and not everyone has to be, and I agree with you that abortion is wrong and it's murderous and should only be used if the women was molested, the baby will die, or she will die.
ExplosiveChickens 2 years ago 8
hahahaha! Pure comedy
TheInvaderBN 2 years ago
This guy bemoans that creationists are made fun of.
Well, with videos like this, how can it not be expected? LOL
Nothing he says follows and he gives no evidence for a "Young Earth" or to denounce evolution. He just says "this makes no sense" to anything he doesn't understand!
There's nothing wrong with saying "God was the force behind creation" but to say that to believe in God means to not believe in evolution is illogical.
LastBastionOfTruth 2 years ago 5
The guy is a moron forcing people to buy his crap. I think his videos are ammusing personally. :)
ExplosiveChickens 2 years ago 2
Yes, I agree! The vids are amusing - that's why I've looked at some of them!
What I wonder is how much he really believes in his rather extreme and hypocritical positions or if he's just trying to get a reaction and attention by making such videos?
I would think if he REALLY believed what he says, he would have been willing to DEFEND his points more instead of disabling comments on so many videos and disabling comments to his personal inbox from the "uninvited" - LOL
LastBastionOfTruth 2 years ago
The Bible says the earth is flat.
And that the sun revolves around the earth.
And that humans are made of dirt.
And that snakes, donkeys, and bushes talk.
And that animals appeared AFTER man but BEFORE woman.
I suppose this is a better source of information
than the careful collection and examination of data?
Imaginefree69 2 years ago
Of all the retarded thinking that I have come across, you are a front-runner, no question.For fuck's sake, give your head a shake. Do you really think you know more than scientists who have made it their life's work studying the evolution of life, just because you read ONE BOOK, a book written by ignorant, superstitious goat herders? You believe in women turning to salt, men living inside fish, and then, want credibility among learned people? Go lie down in the corner and lick your nuts.
zideffil 3 years ago 2
I know the christian explanation for UFO's and alien greys = demons trying to decieve the public. Why aren't they doing this with everyone? If devils are trying to decieve mankind, then why not make the UFO phenomena more evident to the general public instead of a small minority of people? THEN YOU ALSO HAVE TO WONDER, are demons mortal, because alien grays are, in fact, Philip Schneider shot and killed two of these guys in an underground base before they nearly pulverized him? Explain!?
jamesbrownintown 3 years ago
This video is an uneducated lie...The wheel is a great example of evolution an airplain needs a wheel but the wheel dosnt need the airplain...the wheel helps the airplain get to speed and fly, without a wheel the airplain is a movie theatre
Spankyhs 3 years ago
Spontaneous generation and abiogenesis are not the same. Key differences include the amount of time, the conditions, the number of occurrences, and the complexity of life produced.
DNAunion 4 years ago
George Wald, writing back in 1954? The first prominent origin of life experiment was not conducted until 1953 (Miller's). Wald wrote just 1 year after that experiment: uhm, it's been 55 years since then.
DNAunion 4 years ago
Go take a Evolution class in a university near you, Kryptologos. =] You might have better arguments.
raven1234 4 years ago
well...you are definately doing what creationist do best...and that is quotemining. And that is truly disgusting and dishonest method.
For example you left out what darwin has to say after he talks about transitional forms. He says that answer must lie in the extreme incompleteness of geological record. But hey ends justify the means rigth? Who cares if you lie a bit. It'n not like lying is sin or something. ;)
DerivedApe 4 years ago
Derived Ape.., I did mention that. I also mentioned wat a palentologiest said 120 years later. After 250,000 fossil records there is still the problem with transitional forms. The reason is because there is not such thing as evolution. Its a joke.
kryptologos 4 years ago
and you know this bether that student of paleontology/geology?
DerivedApe 4 years ago
@kryptologos Transitional forms have been found in abundance. We just haven't uncovered the billions of species-to-species transitions that would fill in all the gaps. Anyway, just imagine how crowded the Ark would have been with tens of thousands of extra animal forms that have been found in the fossil record. Do you need to be shown in great detail all the transitions which have already been uncovered, or will you just ignore them all and point to the gaps?
prschuster 1 year ago
DerivedApe: If Im not mistaken, Darwin said that you would see missing links in the fossils, yet to be discovered. This is also why people all over the globe started to produce false "links" between ape and man, Peking man, piltdown man, lucy etc etc. If your statement is correct, then it was misunderstood by pretty much the entire world of scientists.
Mekelsior 4 years ago
transitional fossil and missing links...such unnecessary terms. Look...if we are to test hypothesis then we must first assume that hypothesis is true. If we accept evolutionary hypothesis then we must also accept that all organisms are related and that phenotypic and genotypic carachters have been passed down via mendelian laws. To accept the hypothesis to test it means that every single fossil that we find is transitional in one sence or another.
DerivedApe 4 years ago
Also...don't try to create conspiracy when there is none. Piltdown was hoax and was shown to be so by scientists. That one was the only true hoax. others like nebraska man were misinterpertation based on fragmented material.
None of these examples are used anymore in any textbook.
It's kindof funny how outraged you guys are about old hoaxes but completely fail to recognize that creationists have made some 20 hoaxed items to boost their own ideas. Why aren't you outraged by those hoaxes?
DerivedApe 4 years ago
DerivedApe: You may choose to believe whatever you want, you err when you say that it is truth. Nor do I speak of creationists. What I do speak of is this: Evolution is a religion, that believe it is supported by science. The Bible tells us of a different story. What you choose to believe does not change the Truth.
Mekelsior 4 years ago
lucky for us science isn't matter of belief.
Do you think that the truth is democratic?
DerivedApe 4 years ago
DerivedApe: Well, science is not a matter of belief, I agree. But when you conclude, despite of what the evidence tells you, then you believe. Evolution is not proved not even the slightest. A common argument, is that "most scientists dont believe in creation" and by your statement they are wrong, since Truth is not democratic. Heck, oppinions does not have any impact whatsoever on the truth.
Mekelsior 4 years ago
yes I agree..truth is not and can't ever be democratic. However it puzzles me how can you believe in the bibles word. You do know that everything that is in the bible now was voted there on council of nicaea. Thus bible is democratic truth and not truth at all.
There are tons of evidence for evolution and you know it.
DerivedApe 4 years ago
DerivedApe: You speak of tons of truth of evolution. Show me? Have you considered that in regard of C14, earth has not yet achieved Equilibrium? That the speed of Light is not Constant? (Scientists did experiements, where they stopped the speed of Light, and increased it to 300x the speed of Light.)The Bible, speaks the truth until proven wrong, prove it wrong? :)
Mekelsior 4 years ago
DerivedApe: What I meant with the inconsistency of C14, and the speed of Light. If the governing factor that you use to date items, is not constant, then you have no idea what you are measuring. If you did not have the Geological Column, you would not have a standard. This means, you have not proven the Geological Column, since it cannot prove itself.
Mekelsior 4 years ago
eh? no...it's definately consistent. We can build geological column based on dating methods. We don't need geological columns blueprint to get consistent results. Infact the modern charts are more accurate thanks to the dating methods.
I i remeber correctly there are about 60 different dating methods and all produce consistent results on the age of the earth.
I would like to get your answer why do you think bible is the truth and why do you believe in democratic truth?
DerivedApe 4 years ago
DerivedApe: I do not believe in democratic truth, I clearly stated that. Now, perhaps you should do a google on the speed of light, it is not constant. You can claim it all you want, or you can go check out the reasearch that was done. Just do a google search "Light not constant"
Mekelsior 4 years ago
DerivedApe: I do not think the Bible is the truth, I believe it. You believe Evolution is the Truth, you cannot prove it. I do not need proof to believe God created everything, and I do enjoy the fact that Science prove creation. (hehe I hear you are murmuring :P)
Mekelsior 4 years ago
DerivedApe: You do know, that you date the Geological Layers of Stratification on the index fossils, and that you date the fossils based on what layers they are found in, and that if any dating does not match the geological column, they get booted out and retested? (27k year old living snail f.eks. :)
Mekelsior 4 years ago
DerivedApe: The reason you refuse to conclude the obvious, that we were created, is simple yet sad: You do not wish to take responsebility for your actions, nor be responsible or accountable to anyone or any authority. You do not wish anyone to tell you how to lead your life. So you create a death cult and worship death. The idea that Death creates Life is just stupid.
Mekelsior 4 years ago
So you spend Part I saying how all these noble winning scientists are wrong but George Wald is 'ok' just 'cause? pdoeman is right, your not really researching this stuff. Those people that say the Flagellum can't be evolved aren't right...they're just LAZY. There ARE scientists who have been able to show how the parts that make it up exist in other forms. Same for the Eye. It's amazing biology but weak sauce to just say "Wow this is hard to figure out...God did it!...lunch time!"
sfehrenbach 4 years ago
keep it up brother.
paulmcfarland 4 years ago
When are you going to start looking at evidence? What is it with your obsession with quotes and anecdotes.
Yes spontaneous generation is ridiculous, that is the god theory.
Flagellum?!?
You did ZERO research before you made these vids. Type in the word "Flagellum" into youtube and learn about the evolution of the Flagellum.
There are 1,000's of transitional species. Type in "transitional species" to wikipedia for some examples.
pdoeman 4 years ago 2
Pdoeman, I didn't do any research??? How do you think I got this stuff. It is in your books not ours. Your so called scientist have admitted to these things. Are you saying they have changed their mind? How many times do they change their mind? LOL. Evolution is a big joke and those who believe it have fallen for it.
kryptologos 4 years ago
LOL. evolution is a joke, but the guy in the sky that reads everyone's minds, is 3 people wrapped in one, and has no beginning or end is totally true. Gotta love that theist logic
Tempest111 4 years ago
Are you not at least 3 persons in 1. Further He is the beginning and He is the end. It takes less faith to believe that there is a designer than to believe in evolution which has proven to all that this is no way could have been done by chance.
kryptologos 4 years ago
@kryptologos What? Evolution could have not occured by chance? No lie! Evolution is not about blind chance. It's about the stochastic process of differential reproduction rates, largely guided by adaptation to a changing environment. That's roughly equivalent to playing with loaded dice.
prschuster 1 year ago
kryptologos
My books? That is ridiculous. I suspect you don't know what evolution is.
You simply recited the standard misinformation spread by creatists.
You cited no science whatsoever. I read science books, not books of anecdotes.
Whether you believe it or not, I strongly advise you to learn what evolutionary theory actually is, you didn't reference it once in all 3 videos.
pdoeman 4 years ago
Pdoeman: Whenever an evolutionist state that Science have proved that the earth is billion of years, fail to understand what science is. It is not religion, nor is it absolute. Their view will change, did you know that they have discovered that Light is not Constant, that it is moving slower. This makes dating close to impossible.
Mekelsior 4 years ago
pdoeman: The idea is this. Theory of Evolution is a religion. Yes Micro evolution does occur, it does not warp into macro if you just give it some time. Due to the laws that are around us, stuff dies with time. Now you must explain how death is a positive and creating force. Once you do that, you must create Life by Killing things, or from dead material, inorganic. You do have a problem explaining that.
Mekelsior 4 years ago