GPU PhysX in Sacred 2

[yousini]

more games need to use phyx, I'd pay extra $100 for the card if every game had it

[DekenFrost]

Sure Physx is "just" eye candy, So what? Paralax mapping is just eye-candy. HDR is just eye-candy, high-res textures are just eye-candy, heck evenparticle effects are JUST eye-candy. But all these small details make a game realistic and appealing. Your GPU is for eye-candy, that's what it's for. So don't complain about features that "don't add anything" to the gameplay :P

[tonkrogerio]

Not the best use of physx is it -.-

[sidesw1pe]

What's with all the comments about "unrealistic" effects? This is a game folks, a fantasy game - nothing about it is supposed to be realistic. PhysX makes the effects more exciting, which isn't really a bad thing. And if you don't like it I'm pretty sure you don't have to enable it. The leaves do look kinda annoying though.

[younakalibo]

What is the power of the guardian of the temple:

1:48 -> 1:50 ?

[Tonkeliponkeli]

@younakalibo That's buff skill. Third combat art tree. It sends pulse that stuns opponents. May be little late response :D

[blarson12]

Who wants all that shit flying around? No thanks. Reminds me of the bloody mess perk in Fallout3, who needs it? It also makes the game more unrealistic if its like the bloody mess perk.

[Pasechnick]

Could they make this skirt any shorter.

[YoshitsuneTori]

Can i have that effect on hd 5750?

[Robson96x]

Physx Perfect !

[bhavvv]

I just started playing Sacred 2 again, and felt like trying out Physx with my SLI GTX 560s.

I found it far too annoying with all those leaves permanently blowing around my temple guardians Te Energy Shroud, and I had to turn it off.

I like the glowing particle effects on the spells, but I absolutely hate the leaves all over the place.

[adolson]

too many leaves.. need a balance in the middle

[you4tom]

It would be great for a game about dandruff.

[Strondaap1]

Those leaves are annoying.

[Melik1100]

@Skybreak31 No. The physX are only supported by PCs

[Superfloor95]

looks like a girl game

[mleczko79]

so it is like 1 effect over and over again? just brilliant.

[Skybreak31]

does it look like that on the xbox 360 too?

[everygenericlogin]

Cheesy use of PhysX, doesn't add to the immersion nor the visual aesthetics to the game.

[murray821]

And they didnt even show the Clustering maelstrom, wich would have the beste tornado effect. But have to agree without it now looks dull in comparison, but I also think its overkill.

[Roflmfaoftw]

Pfff Nvidia is still shit

[mitko1251]

@Roflmfaoftw but owning ATI with light years. ASUS Mars II kicks the ass of the Ares (2x5870)

[WindDude]

Most of those effects look extremely overkill and out of place...

[misterhoobomaster]

will my Computer run this whit physX its a Ultra dual core 2,5 x2*processor and 6gb ram and ati hd 4650 graphics card 1gb plz answer back :D!

[LtExtremist]

@misterhoobomaster your card doesn't support PhysX

[misterhoobomaster]

@LtExtremist but you think i can max it whit out physX?

[LtExtremist]

@misterhoobomaster Nope no physx you will have to play all high but physyx off

ATI cards don't support physyx

[Gigamonkey2]

I wish they would implement physx in more games. Its really cool. Like imagine Just cause 2 with better explosions and really detailed parachute ripple. Or imagine having particle effects like this in mass effect 2.

[TraNWhiZ]

@Gigamonkey2 Yeah, too bad they are fucking retarded and too lazy to do this.

[ggova]

Too much particles :/

[caIImeTommy]

Graficcard racism >:(

I'm going to keep my fucking ATI grafics card!

[Pestinha92]

:O Even those that don't like PhysX gotta admit that the game looks way prettier with it on.

Hands down.

I can't wait till I get my hands on the game :D

[hdhp2004]

Zomg Fairy Dust

The Celestial light looks sick though

[wh3resmycar]

it's amazing how people around here are criticizing how excessive/unrealistic the physx effects are.

wake up you stupid idiots. ITS AN EFFIN FANTASY GAME.

your rants are equivalent to complaining that sauron's ring can actually be burned inside an oven, that requiring the flames of mordor to actually burn the damn thing is excessive.

[pyrlcaster]

@wh3resmycar Haha that was an awesome comment dude, best I have read in a long time 100 points haha epic.

[xilix]

I'm hoping Nvidia will give us more than just stuff like this. I have a GTX460, and it's fantastic, but the difference in performance between GPU and CPU physics, on my machine, isn't that mind blowing. I wasn't even aware that the MAfia 2 demo wasn't defaulting to my GPU for physics until it was brought to my attention. We need these physics effects to be heavier, more involved, and more intense, otherwise, it's just something my CPU can do, and to me, that makes it much less "special".

[JuniorProducer1996]

extremely pretty, though i dont have the power for it :/

[polarkreis201]

greenleaves PHYSX rocks, its eyecandy yes and this is what pc games have to go, all u tell the graphics doesn't get better after crysis and dx11 with physx u can fill the games with many particles who u can see in the real world and this is making the games more realistics, physx are the future!

[simmsoriginal]

so PhysX is only on the Pc version?

I got it for the 360 o.o

[flynnt77]

@simmsoriginal Yes. Neither of the consoles have enough power to run all this. My PS3 gets bogged down just walking around in a town.

[orlandothx]

@simmsoriginal 360 or ps3 simply can't run this.. remember.. consoles are a really dated boxes  if you compare those with a new pc :) cheers.

[jackster1990]

this is what jagex needs to make runescape look more like. Prolly gunna take them like 20 years tho :(

[prodigy5100]

amazing

[SOF006]

very pretty but over the top... Just my opinion, I dont think there would be that many leaves flying around

[dumtru]

Yeah the spells physx effects (im gonna call them spark), the sparks remind me of the spell effects in Nox. Good game.

[jprincehouston]

PS3's Cell processor is so much better.

[tabrisPL]

@jprincehouston

Sony offers Cell optimized version of physx for free to it's developers.

[lastaccounthas650fav]

looks great but I think it looks better without the particles^^

[powderedwigmachine]

Must... Not... Buy... nVid...ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD.

[coolrecep]

Turning leaves off and on is NOT physX. Are you fucking kidding me?

[UndertakersDiscipleU]

i have ATI graphic card and game patch 2.43

[UndertakersDiscipleU]

how do u activate PhysX in Sacred 2??? i have PhysX but still there aren't any better graphics, what do i need to do ???

[samblero]

@UndertakersDiscipleU you say u have ati graphic card, it doesnt have physx, physx is only for nvidia cards.

[UndertakersDiscipleU]

@samblero yea i have ati and nvidia physx, and it show in the graphics option that i can activate but i must have nvidia 'cus it laggs with ati :/

[samblero]

@UndertakersDiscipleU strange thing, i understand that you cant activate nvidia physx on a ati card cuz the ati card doesnt have that physics plus, in example, i cant activate it on batman arkham asilum cuz i have ati... anyway, if you can activate it and it lags, with a nvidia card of the same price it will lag too, cuz physx reduces a bit log of performance from the graphics card, probably you just need a more powerfull GPU

[UndertakersDiscipleU]

@samblero yea :/ thanks for replaying dude :)

[lunei66]

Well, it's pretty, but I'm sure as hell ain't gonna spit out several hundreds of $ just to see leaves hit me in the face.

[nOvalyfsk8]

@lunei66 lmfao!

[Fleabr]

Problem with PhysX is that's JUST eye candy, something to Nvidia use as marketing and not to really add something useful to the game. And that's the main use to the physics system on games, for example on BC2 you can actually destroy the buildings to kill people inside or partially destroy it so they can't use as cover, you can cut the wire fences to get through.

And then you get PhysX, just leaves, rocks and steam, it just seems a tech demo, not an actual game.

And yes, I have an nvidia card.

[DJDREKEN]

wrong. if u play the crazy machines 2 demo physx will start having massive impacts on realism in games and have its uses in playing as-well. it can also be used for more randomized gameplay such as boulders or avalanches etc. as the technology advances... just wait a while longer its gonna take hold and become very awesome

[NobodyHasThisNick]

@DJDREKEN

CM2 is great example. Cell Factor is as well.

Other games using PhysX on GPU - not so much. Physics isn't a target in itself there, it's just random eye candy, sometimes even hindrance in gameplay (like fog)

[DJDREKEN]

well this is @EVERYONE dont you BUY a graphics card for all that EYE CANDY??? duhhh if u didnt like the high fancy graphics u would stuck with the nvidia 5700 FX on extreme low settings.

[NobodyHasThisNick]

No. I am not talking about buying a graphics card, I am talking about buying a GAME.

[DJDREKEN]

ohh well in that case my bad but that was also directed at everyone who is complaining about physx looking good 0_o jealous? lol i mean i enjoy playing around with physx stuff it just entertains me

[Shendue]

There's nothing wrong with eye candy. It helps immersivity and realism.

Graphics is a part of the game, you know. Not as important as gameplay, sure, still it adds to the game.

[kratosdj95]

@Fleabr Right, i have an ATI card and i think the PhysX is pratically useless, in BC2 without PhysX i can destroy builidings...

Only for marketing

[mmhmmlala]

@Fleabr

ummm all games are is eye candy.

and its really cool go try batman with it.

[Fleabr]

@mmhmmlala No, a PART of games is eye-candy, not the whole thing. You missed the point.

And yes, I've tried pretty much all games that have PhysX, currenty i'm using a 9600GT exclusively for that with my main HD 4870.

People think I'm against eye-candy, wich I'm not, all for it, just that the physics system should be used for something actually useful, not flying leaves

[mmhmmlala]

@Fleabr

yeah well this game kinda sucks and the leaves just get in your way lol

but ive got 2 9500gt's and im running everything pretty smoothly i like it a lot.

[16mes]

@Fleabr Maybe so but it's good to at least try to push things right now while we're still stuck with the current generation of consoles. I'm sure eventually effects like this will become a common thing in the next generation.

[Fleabr]

@16mes This isn't "pushing" anything, PhysX is just flying leaves and some good looking smokes, what Half-Life 2 did in 2004 was pushing things, using physics to actually enhance gameplay, this is just useless eye candy made by nvidia to sell cards.

[LuoSKr4D]

@Fleabr yeah I wonder why devs usualy try to upgrade the games visualy, its a waste of time and resources, It doesn't had anything useful to the game..trolls these days. And yes I have an ati..oh wait its a nvidia, nvidia I mean.

[bart88xt]

what is your system ?

[janersulce32]

damn wish ati head physics support

[dullsonBETA]

whats that songs name? So peaceful

[Zogrim]

@dullsonBETA That's from Sacred 2 OST - track 3, Highelves Day Suite

[dullsonBETA]

Thanks man, You helped alot. :)

[Peemon]

Also, this is so exaggerated it's not even cool.

She's walking and there's so many damn rocks on the floor it's unbelievable, and guess what? Without even touching them, they jump outta the way like when Moses seperated the waters...

People talk about PhysX and realism, but in reality she'd just have very sore feet after 2 metres in that cave - and that's ALL that would happen.

[elgoorf123]

so apparently without physx you cant have special effects? OK so particle collisions aren't easy without a physics engine, but to say "without PhysX you won't enjoy the beauty of those annoying leaves blowing around infront of the camera"? come on... a ten year old could whip up a wind vortex using cpu processing and a decade old games creation software alone. sure physx is grand, but seriously, what a shoddy example to demonstrate it.

[Selljasplint20R]

They have improved the graphics and now sacred 2 is a delight with the PhysX, among other games that support it also.

[Neon3xusAtherisVirus]

my Ati 5850 can run PhysX and DX11 :p I love this game :D

[Peemon]

@Neon3xusAtherisVirus I've a 5850 too, but I'm pretty sure they can't run PhysX. If you can turn PhysX on in the game, it's got to be running on your CPU - because that IS possible (but if the game has that enabled, I don't know).

[gozxdesastros]

all the:" lol wtf how unrealistic !" and " zomfg physx is so crap lolz" poster are just jalous people sitting next to their zomfgQuadXCrossfire PCs which cant have the fun of so much unrealistic but still cool eyecandy

[DannNamesake]

Why so many leaves and spell powder flying everywhere?? Its like they were desperately trying to show the physX power and forgot to work on the game.

[VentoLT]

That's because they added that stuff just to show how powerful and how needed are those physX. It's probably a future of gaming...

[Peemon]

@VentoLT if there's anything it shows, it's that it's unrealistic and definitely not needed.

Or that they suck at programming and make a terrible showcase. And one could just use havok. Or use openCL or DirectCompute to make something better or similar to physX, which would work with all cards.

[VentoLT]

if every game developer developed their own physics engines then all the games would be way worse and come out way later just because they didn't have enough money and time to finish it later. In additional the same game now can get better if played on a better computer...

PhysX is a really awesome thing.

[VagabonNinja]

Oh nevermind, I realize it's just a demo where they add leaves everywhere to test out the physx.

[Zogrim]

@VagabonNinja No, that's actual game. Not very realistic, but it's better with leaves than without them though

[GrEeKiNnOvaTiOn]

@Zogrim Its no realistic at all...

[VagabonNinja]

Why are there so many leaves everywhere.. It's not realistic, I've never experienced leaves flying about constantly while walking through a place like that.

[nightow87]

you also have never gotten hit with a fireball, or been shot with lightning bolts etc etc, man, its a fantasy game! it looks nice, so it is very welcome ;)

[Mulfia]

They don't constantly move about, only when the wind picks up or you have a skill that influences the area. There is also gravity for particles, and rocks about that can be influenced in the same fashion.

[Zeldarocks42]

wow the animations in this game are soooo awkward looking

[WowVideosbyVessel]

everything looks so boring with the PhysX off

[Zogrim]

@CrapOnUSA Basic physics stuff, like character controller, running on CPU.

[wolfgirl2626]

awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

[Ablequerq]

I think this is one of the few games that Physx shines.

[VagabonNinja]

Yea, there aren't many games that use these cool ideas that these GPU guys come out with.

[FireeEmerald]

geil! meine graka isch leider zu schlecht um so etwas zu zaubern, aber es mal zu sehn isch cool^^ ich glaub ich kauf mir mal ne physiX Grafikkarte:-)

[yostoyou]

for some reason this game won't work for me...

pretty sweet shit, can be used for a lot of things. too bad you have to buy another freaking card to make this work.

[Uouttooo]

Nice but excessive! How often do you see blowing leaves everywhere you go? Seriously? They practically follow the character everywhere which is unrealistic. The radiating power spell effects look more like physical objects falling on the floor with PhysX on. But they were supposed to be spell and supernatural. Why do they interact with the walls and fall like normal objects? Like I said, excessive and unnecessary. Nice to look at but the usage here is questionable.

[MatinoAdeAit]

@Uouttooo Ok, magic shouldn't interact with the real world ever again. No fire balls, no shielding, not healing, no teleportation.

I agree about the leaves, though.

[omg5501]

@Uouttooo leafes - yes. But I dont mind these spell effects! Why supernatural? Looks great to me as it is with physx ON... ''realistic'' attribute in fantasy game is questionable foremost! xD u just need to believe...

[BigdogWitBigdog]

@Uouttooo Medeival or fantasy games are based off of there own lore and ideas. Well most of the time at least. This games lore may be to where spells are more physical. It all depends, yes there are games with more "supernatural" spells but think of the different ideas and ways people could tackle how spells are done.

[dilibau]

This is why hack'n'slash RPGs are worth playing on the PC. It's the place where they were born and it's where they look, feel and fit best...got nothing against consoles, I actually played Sacred 2 on both PC and PS3 and had the same fun, however the PC version always looks a lot better

[Fezao0]

LoL...this game remembers MuOnline

[mjy2006]

wow you don't get to see these graphics on console versions lol.. pretty amazing