Anyone remember the episode, where they bought trackday-cars and nobody wanted to believe May, when he said, that this is one of the best chassis ever made? Well, mister Hammond..
So let me get this straight, all the european Fords were designed in the US then? And built there originally too? Rubbish!
What about the Dagenham plant in Essex, England? Designing, developing and building Fords specifically for the european market since the 1930's
Ford UK designes and develops it's own cars. Ford of Germany used to produce different cars again, until the end of the 1970's into the 80's when models were shared.
@boldbulkhead Well, it's quite refreshing to talk to someone like yourself who is happy to be corrected. I am happy to be corrected myself if I'm proven wrong, but some people just get all crazy and refuse to admit they're wrong!
I don't proclaim to be an expert on cars, but I know what I know from 30 years of living cars, breathing cars, you know.....they are my life! Plus, I also spent time in the car trade selling them too, so had to know a lot. But hey, I don't know everything
@boldbulkhead I haven't seen someone apoligizeing on youtube for well its had to be the first one ive ever seen its nice to know the internet has some decent people
lol @ the retards talking shit about something they know nothing about. Both trolls and both clueless. No use me wasting my time trying to educate the morons.
@motanelustelistu Yes, both are rather subtly beautiful - and somehow contrive to be droopy and adorable at the same time. 'Twas the decade, perhaps. XD
@MemphisPrime Nope, it was the Mystery aka "Sunbeam 1000 hp driven by British driver Henry Segrave back in 1927 and desinged and built by Sunbeam in Wolverhamtop, England.
Every other record since, bar none, for "wheel driven" cars has been by British built and designed cars, including the first over 300mph in 1937 and the first over 400mph in 1964. Look up Bluebird, Malcolm Campbell and Donald Campbell.
Since 1983, all top land speed records have been held by the British too :-)
@HFLanciaStratos putting a small engine in a car aint gonna make it go fast gt40 was the fastest during that time it beat all the cars and it s american
@MemphisPrime Yeah, it had a lot more than just a big engine though, it had a Lola developed chassis I believe. No doubt it was (still is) an amazing machine, but it was far from a muscle car. More a race bred supercar.
@MemphisPrime Developed in the Lola factory in Bromley, England no less, then by "Ford Advanced Vehicles Ltd" in Slough, near Heathrow Airport from 63 onwards. It's only part American but mostly English in design. It was also built in England since it was mainly competing in Europe to beat Ferrari, why build it in the US?
@kobimzr no America has many more models that europe doesnt have the models that america does not have and europe has have failed at selling and are not good enough to sell in america
@MemphisPrime its not about the quality really, its just an entirely different market. First off, the prize of gas has always been much lower in the states due to higher taxes in europe, and the modern american built environment has been centered around the use of personal cars from the beginning. The american market just has different preferences than the european.
@autoexec2000 the price of gas will never affect a car lover the market does change in different regions but if talking about sales its about the consumer if talking about quality its all about the car
No it's not. If it's designed and built in the UK, then it's a British Car. The Ford GT, built in Detroit, is American.
Ford UK is a UK company. No one in their right mind would call any of our English Fords, American just because the parent company is American.
I can see it now......a Ford Sit-up-and-beg Pop being called an American car lmao or a Cortina, or Fiesta, or good old XR3i Escort.....yeh, very American!
@R1CH130 are you calling ford british? ford is american and every car they make is american same thing with toyota you cant call a toyota american just because it is built in america
i own a Corrado VR6 and a Cabrio with a VR6 swapped. corrado has 200k miles i put on and not one issue or failure other than the normal suspension wear, same with the 120k cabrio with 50k on the VR6 i threw in. VW's are very picky. maintain them PROPERLY and youll never have an issue. That benz is a rare bird too.
a 190e was my first car...i sold it for a 2001 jetta o god....i i ended up with a vw R32 witch is amazing but i want my 190 back for a daily driver god damn it
everybody says how good the bmw m3 is and that mercedes cars are for old people. i disagree. the m3 must be awesome, but so is the mercedes 190e. i have 2 audis, an a4 quattro and a 1984 ur quattro coupe. i must say i love the mercedes 190e, if i find a good one, maybe i'll buy it. hopefully i will be able to find one in canada. i love german cars! cheers rob
@sharpanator- Yes, there are different grades of plastics, but Audi isn't the example I'd go with- They cover most of their plastics with a thin latex or rubber coating instead of paint, chrome, or false wood grain. Peel back the cover, it's still plastic. However- and this is aimed at @childof1988- I would rather have plastic in some spots, so that the manufacturer can spend money making best of important stuff like- Engines, Gearboxes, Brakes, Suspension, etc.
On the other side of the pond... it seems like those "classics to be" are like trucks. What else do an old lady commuter, police car, midlife crisis, and pony car have in common besides the V8 and F-R configuration?
The only 90's coupe that's not completely embarrassing? The Fox Body 5.0 was one of the manliest cars ever built! Maybe they didn't sell that one in Europe.
well, the VW didn't sell well and wasn't well known so I doubt it would work but the Mercedes, well it's a limited edition with a rally tuned engine and chassis so that's a classic
@sharpanator My point is that this car is lame. I meant crush, in terms of how fast the cars got from 0-62. And I do miss something totally, THE LATE 60's WHEN CARS WERE COOL!
@sharpanator let me give you some numbers here. Chevrolet camaro: 5.2 seconds, Ford mustang: 5.4 seconds, Porsche 911 turbo S: 3.3 seconds, Mercedes CL65 AMG: 4.4 seconds. . . Other sports cars crush this thing.
In the video, Richard Hammond quotes the Corrado as being 'cobbled together' from parts from the MK2 Golf at the front and Passat at the rear. This is untrue.
All Corrados except the VR6 are mechanically based on the MK2 Golf. The VR6 is mechanically based on the MK3 Golf abeit with detail changes to the engine. All suspension springs are unique to the Corrado.
I would question the existence of ANY Passat specific parts on the Corrado apart from the 2.0 16v engine and a few interior parts.
@sharpanator think the origional mini is probably the ultimate classic car... saw one near a garage near me on a p reg i think for £8500!!! that was at a citroen garage called broach hill in hutton cranswick they were nowhere near that price when they came out... very very few cars can raise in price like that
@sharpanator i agree with the opel/vauxhall vx220 yes i think that will. the focus rs will be because its the first production fwd car to produce over 300bhp.. the honda s2000 because its the highest revving 4 cyl engine voted car of the year many times, the clio v6 i think will also make a future classic maybe not sure what you recon? and lexus is200?? cars that will go down for been not so good - vectra vxr lol..
The 190E Cosworth is trash. It was big and slow with a small engine. Mercedes must have been on drugs to think they were gonna do anything with that car, with a 0-60 of nearly 8 seconds its a laugh to be called a sports saloon.
@320bit You are stupid as hell. The 190E Cosworth 2.5 Evo II is already classic, maybe it's not very quick, but quick enought to compare to the e30 m3 and from 0-60 in under 7 second is good for a early 90's car. No very few car? Mercedes 500E, Audi S2, Audi RS2, Lotus Omega, Alpina B10 Biturbo, BMW M5 E34 3.6, Mclaren F1. You talking shit. You must be from the states.
@320bit yes The 2.5l M3 with 238hp engine goes in under 7 second, same as the 190E 2.5-16v Evolution II Cosworth 232hp goes in 6.8s. Your Merc is 8.0s to sixty if you look at factory sheet. And what you compare a W201 to a E30 the most successfull car in the touring championship. The base 192 hp M3 with 2.3l has 7.5 seconds. Look at the prices that both cars are achieved - it's still raising.- so they are classics. This M3 and Merc is one of the best cars from this two brands. ever made
@320bit The C32 will be never classic, It's not that rare, Classic Benz is R129, W124, W140. The best Mercedes there was. The C32 is simple a good car with a strong engine but there is nothing in it, that is so rare.
@SuperSedans It doesnt HAVE to be rare to be a classic. As they said, thats only one box to check. Its beautiful car, and its quite interesting given the fact it has a small V6 engine producing about 350hp and weighs around 4500lbs YET it can do 0-60 in 4.5 seconds and top over 185mph. That, and it was by far the fastest 4 door saloon of its day and was even faster than most super cars of its day.
Fact is, theres VERY FEW cars from the 80s and 90s that will EVER be classics. And there isnt any in this video. During the 80s and 90s, car companies were all caught up in "fuel economy" that they went from fast sports cars to square boxes with horrible engines.
@PHELCAN this movie was made in 2003 so a car then thats pretty decent back in 92 it was unheard of to be doin that in a car that small, it was also the first vw to break 150 and stuff like that. The car really superbs on handling and stuff. If the first gear on this thing was faster like how it is when its in the high 2nd gear and 3rd gear it would probally be like a 3~5 sec car
@brothersretailers and yet it gets cancelled 3 years after being put into production ( 3:13 ) The thing is a slow, plastic, box, just like every other car from the 90's. And if ferrari or lamborghini, or any other car brand with some decency thought this car was cool, they would be making cars that are like this.
hah, in the top gear comparison, the 190, m3, and the sierra cosworth, james said martin brundel said the 190 was the best handling sport saloon car, and richard and jeremy said he didnt. they called martin and he said he didnt ever say that. richard just said the opposite. i wish i could go to europe and tell them
@topgearfan1997 it was about chassiss, james said these are brundle's words, jeremy and richard antagonized and so did brundle on the phone. they know rundle also antagonized it, please don't come to europe, stay stupid in your country.
plus he's wrong at 4.20, the merc was released generaly before the m3 the m3 was considered a catch up when released by some press, taking nothing away from the mighty m3 of course ..........
Hammond says that Martin Brundle praised this chassis, but didn't James May claim the same in another episode (where they tested 3 used German cars) and was shot down by Clarkson and Brundle himself (over the phone)?
I didn't know the Mercedes 190E Cosworth came in automatic. I was one in a dealership once then saw the automatic shifter and thought 'nah, it's just a rebadge. Now I'm not so sure.
well my girlfriend is mexican and we werent to impresed. but you have to remember unlike the most of the world we have a sense of humor. Our food is shit and so were british leland but theres a reason why you fucking euros always give us nill points at eurovision and i dont need to say what it is do i now.
lmao touche lolz see thats comedy! :D Monty python is Comedy and hilarious one too :) but what u guys said over these people is the equivalent of getting a caricature of a Jew from Nazi Germany and making fun based on what you see and thats NOT comedy. telling a people that they have bad teeth is not the same as telling a nation one has never been to that you are better than them. thats just facist and all of u know it :P
cars imitate national traits.. British cars are nothing but bad smelling, crooked grilled, pompous , over-estimated,dainty, over priced machines that will probably wear a monocle,have delusions of grandeur, and think its the standard never realizing how much of a dandy it looks. almost as bad as British food but atleast u can stomach blood pudding and fish N chips...imagine one day waking up and knowing you're British? that be great because then i can make racist assessments over others! :D
@YOYOBadmojoJOJO relax. they make fun of everyone. i'm american, they always make fun of americans, but i'm not whining and complaining and overreacting to everything. learn to laugh and stop taking things so seriously please.
I hate the Corrado. It looks just like any VW. It actually is just another VW. Expensive in insurance, horrible looking, it´s just awful. And, sorry mate, i am from germany :-)
@MarcSchrewe im sorry dude but you must not have any taste in cars ha ha. im not in love with the rado stock but slammed with wide wheels is where its at.
@MarcSchrewe A lot of it is different then any other VW starting with the engine. Its two door, it has unique sporty curves, electronically controlled spoiler, unusual VW rear and front. It actually doesnt look close to a jetta or a golf. Its designed by karmann. Not to mention the interior with the recaro leather is really nice and doest look like the ones in other vws. Its definitely a head turner so i will disagree with you. Fun little sports car. In the proper condition that is.
I like that so many Top Gear episodes with VW's include Depeche Mode music. I am sure the producer and I would get along well... my fave cars and fave band!
@killdac are stupid or what.....that car is more the 15 years old.....shitty american cars during that time couldnt do that, some of them cant do that now, i mean in that class of course
@ruskiroma your right lol im just being an a hole its actully a 3.8L supercharged but its not really compareable to these cars it was way kind of over priced at 32,000 for a sporty family car thats a lot when you look at it closely
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lance123567168 3 weeks ago
What episode it this??
Panguu2 1 month ago
@Panguu2 This was from Season 3 Episode 5
barrackyomamma 1 week ago
There are only two car brands .... Mercedes and others ...
ruiflorindo77 1 month ago
Anyone remember the episode, where they bought trackday-cars and nobody wanted to believe May, when he said, that this is one of the best chassis ever made? Well, mister Hammond..
dwightlight 1 month ago 7
@dwightlight topgear always do that thing .such there's a drama behind it .
tgsenough 1 week ago
just bought one as a winter beater 89 benz for 700$ TOP SHAPE nothing wrong with it :D
ramsesali90 2 months ago
Most European Fords are built in Austria, but they are designed and originally built in America.
boldbulkhead 4 months ago
@boldbulkhead
Geez, we have another one!
So let me get this straight, all the european Fords were designed in the US then? And built there originally too? Rubbish!
What about the Dagenham plant in Essex, England? Designing, developing and building Fords specifically for the european market since the 1930's
Ford UK designes and develops it's own cars. Ford of Germany used to produce different cars again, until the end of the 1970's into the 80's when models were shared.
R1CH130 4 months ago
@R1CH130 i'm very sorry, i wasn't aware of that. Plus i meant some, not all.
boldbulkhead 4 months ago 2
@boldbulkhead
Ok buddy, sorry if I was a little harsh with you!
I was a bit wound up because a couple of other posters were determined to try to wind me up and tell me I was wrong!
At least you've apologised, which wasn't necessary, and admitted that you didn't know that.
The other two ignorant plebs just think they know it all lol
No offence was intended :-)
R1CH130 4 months ago
@R1CH130 no offence taken!
It's just nice to get corrected sometimes.
But i totally understand you, people can be so annoying sometimes, when they think they're know-it-alls :-)
boldbulkhead 4 months ago
@boldbulkhead Well, it's quite refreshing to talk to someone like yourself who is happy to be corrected. I am happy to be corrected myself if I'm proven wrong, but some people just get all crazy and refuse to admit they're wrong!
I don't proclaim to be an expert on cars, but I know what I know from 30 years of living cars, breathing cars, you know.....they are my life! Plus, I also spent time in the car trade selling them too, so had to know a lot. But hey, I don't know everything
R1CH130 4 months ago 2
@boldbulkhead I haven't seen someone apoligizeing on youtube for well its had to be the first one ive ever seen its nice to know the internet has some decent people
thevampireprince100 4 months ago
James may bought the same mercedes cosworth for a challenge and said the same thing hammond said Racing gear best rear chassis
Tkulhanci703 4 months ago
lol @ the retards talking shit about something they know nothing about. Both trolls and both clueless. No use me wasting my time trying to educate the morons.
R1CH130 4 months ago
First will be the Bettle then the golf. Not the Corrado. Not every classic needs to have high horsepower.
Balaboti 4 months ago
O SHIT !!! 4:21
remember when james had the same car in the challenge ?
he talked to brundle on the phone and brundle said he didnt remember saying that :P
rastamees 4 months ago
@rastamees Yeh, I thought that too lol
R1CH130 4 months ago
I think I've just fallen for that VW. :O
simplecoffee 5 months ago
@simplecoffee And i for the Merc . I mean its superb , just that if the brake lights would be the square model ones of the c 500
motanelustelistu 4 months ago
@motanelustelistu Yes, both are rather subtly beautiful - and somehow contrive to be droopy and adorable at the same time. 'Twas the decade, perhaps. XD
simplecoffee 4 months ago
yah i thought you were talking about supercars so i switched topic
MemphisPrime 5 months ago
btw the first car to reach 200 is american its dodge charger in Daytona and its a true classic
MemphisPrime 5 months ago
@MemphisPrime Nope, it was the Mystery aka "Sunbeam 1000 hp driven by British driver Henry Segrave back in 1927 and desinged and built by Sunbeam in Wolverhamtop, England.
Every other record since, bar none, for "wheel driven" cars has been by British built and designed cars, including the first over 300mph in 1937 and the first over 400mph in 1964. Look up Bluebird, Malcolm Campbell and Donald Campbell.
Since 1983, all top land speed records have been held by the British too :-)
R1CH130 4 months ago
Import that Corrado to Australia and you'll have yourself a car that's rarer than a Ferrari.
Geez, I want one!
HFLanciaStratos 5 months ago
Only classics that actually look good and are fast are American and from 1964-73 not regular mustang though only boss or mach1
MemphisPrime 5 months ago
@MemphisPrime Looks are completely subjective.
Also, classic supercars are MUCH faster than old muscle cars.
HFLanciaStratos 5 months ago
@HFLanciaStratos depends on what classic car your talking about a 1970 monte carlo with a 474 ci engine could beat those super cars
MemphisPrime 5 months ago
@MemphisPrime Putting a big engine in a car ain't gonna make it turn corners.
HFLanciaStratos 5 months ago
@HFLanciaStratos putting a small engine in a car aint gonna make it go fast gt40 was the fastest during that time it beat all the cars and it s american
MemphisPrime 5 months ago
@MemphisPrime Yeah, it had a lot more than just a big engine though, it had a Lola developed chassis I believe. No doubt it was (still is) an amazing machine, but it was far from a muscle car. More a race bred supercar.
HFLanciaStratos 5 months ago
@MemphisPrime Developed in the Lola factory in Bromley, England no less, then by "Ford Advanced Vehicles Ltd" in Slough, near Heathrow Airport from 63 onwards. It's only part American but mostly English in design. It was also built in England since it was mainly competing in Europe to beat Ferrari, why build it in the US?
R1CH130 5 months ago
@R1CH130 ford is an american company therefore its an american car
MemphisPrime 5 months ago
@MemphisPrime europe still gets all the good ford cars!
kobimzr 5 months ago
@kobimzr europe has the same fords as america has the only difference is the name
MemphisPrime 5 months ago
@kobimzr no America has many more models that europe doesnt have the models that america does not have and europe has have failed at selling and are not good enough to sell in america
MemphisPrime 5 months ago
@MemphisPrime its not about the quality really, its just an entirely different market. First off, the prize of gas has always been much lower in the states due to higher taxes in europe, and the modern american built environment has been centered around the use of personal cars from the beginning. The american market just has different preferences than the european.
autoexec2000 5 months ago
@autoexec2000 the price of gas will never affect a car lover the market does change in different regions but if talking about sales its about the consumer if talking about quality its all about the car
MemphisPrime 5 months ago
@MemphisPrime
No it's not. If it's designed and built in the UK, then it's a British Car. The Ford GT, built in Detroit, is American.
Ford UK is a UK company. No one in their right mind would call any of our English Fords, American just because the parent company is American.
I can see it now......a Ford Sit-up-and-beg Pop being called an American car lmao or a Cortina, or Fiesta, or good old XR3i Escort.....yeh, very American!
R1CH130 4 months ago
@R1CH130 are you calling ford british? ford is american and every car they make is american same thing with toyota you cant call a toyota american just because it is built in america
MemphisPrime 4 months ago
@R1CH130 your retarded. fords are designed and built in america.
thejoshh69 4 months ago
@thejoshh69
Not all of them mate.
Try reading up on the subject before you post as it saves you looking like a plonker lol
R1CH130 4 months ago
@HFLanciaStratos also i bet you a shelby cobra could beat those classic supercars
MemphisPrime 5 months ago
@MemphisPrime
Oh yeh, the shelby Cobra.....good choice, designed and built originally in England by AC Cars, hence AC Cobra.
All Shelby did was use the English car and chuck a big engine in it. Not exactly hard to do!
Awesome car never the less, but since you seem to be on some mission to prove that America is best, I thought I would bring that small point up ;-)
R1CH130 4 months ago
@HFLanciaStratos although cobra is virtually undrivable it is still faster
MemphisPrime 5 months ago
@HFLanciaStratos also if you want classic supercar how about a gt40 it was better then all the euro cars of its time
MemphisPrime 5 months ago
@MemphisPrime lol If you say so mr car expert.
R1CH130 4 months ago
I think the new mustang 302 will become an instant classic
bond1011 6 months ago
i own a Corrado VR6 and a Cabrio with a VR6 swapped. corrado has 200k miles i put on and not one issue or failure other than the normal suspension wear, same with the 120k cabrio with 50k on the VR6 i threw in. VW's are very picky. maintain them PROPERLY and youll never have an issue. That benz is a rare bird too.
craz1355 6 months ago
I would never trade my 1994 Probe for that VW junk.
fistazul 6 months ago
cant find the 190e cozzy here in the us! There's the occasional 2.3 2000 miles away and overpriced, with US spec engine and headlights.. ugh
FetidToecheese 6 months ago
a 190e was my first car...i sold it for a 2001 jetta o god....i i ended up with a vw R32 witch is amazing but i want my 190 back for a daily driver god damn it
doomsdayinc87 6 months ago
so martin brundell did say that after all?
robben896 6 months ago
@robben896
yea
topgearfan1997 6 months ago
@topgearfan1997 im confused about it , why did he say otherwise on the phone with James?
robben896 6 months ago
@robben896 Nah, this episode is quite a bit older than the one where James makes that claime too, and it's proven that he didn't say it after all lol
R1CH130 4 months ago
2:23-2:30 Better than climbing out from over-tuned Civics, Corollas and Fiats, Mr. Hammond.
Herrasmiesvaras 6 months ago
everybody says how good the bmw m3 is and that mercedes cars are for old people. i disagree. the m3 must be awesome, but so is the mercedes 190e. i have 2 audis, an a4 quattro and a 1984 ur quattro coupe. i must say i love the mercedes 190e, if i find a good one, maybe i'll buy it. hopefully i will be able to find one in canada. i love german cars! cheers rob
zambam3 7 months ago
@sharpanator- Yes, there are different grades of plastics, but Audi isn't the example I'd go with- They cover most of their plastics with a thin latex or rubber coating instead of paint, chrome, or false wood grain. Peel back the cover, it's still plastic. However- and this is aimed at @childof1988- I would rather have plastic in some spots, so that the manufacturer can spend money making best of important stuff like- Engines, Gearboxes, Brakes, Suspension, etc.
ThePatUltra 7 months ago
whats the song at 3:50 anyone?!
generallees13 7 months ago
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MrDziagas 7 months ago
hi mate. did you found that song ? :)
MrDziagas 7 months ago
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MrDziagas 7 months ago
o shit did you see that guy run 3:26!!!!!!!!!
509SMURF 7 months ago
3:22, all of those people are idiots!!!!
markmarshall39 7 months ago
On the other side of the pond... it seems like those "classics to be" are like trucks. What else do an old lady commuter, police car, midlife crisis, and pony car have in common besides the V8 and F-R configuration?
LittleOldDodges 7 months ago
The only 90's coupe that's not completely embarrassing? The Fox Body 5.0 was one of the manliest cars ever built! Maybe they didn't sell that one in Europe.
CarOnTheWall 7 months ago
well, the VW didn't sell well and wasn't well known so I doubt it would work but the Mercedes, well it's a limited edition with a rally tuned engine and chassis so that's a classic
kernals12 7 months ago
This Mercedes 190E 2.5-16 is such a great car: A DREAM
X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X 7 months ago
@Anydinosaur no way man, Corrado is way better and faster
magirktheone 7 months ago
@sharpanator In my opinion, the volkswagon is lame. And that's not a great mercedes either.
PHELCAN 8 months ago
@sharpanator My point is that this car is lame. I meant crush, in terms of how fast the cars got from 0-62. And I do miss something totally, THE LATE 60's WHEN CARS WERE COOL!
PHELCAN 8 months ago
@sharpanator let me give you some numbers here. Chevrolet camaro: 5.2 seconds, Ford mustang: 5.4 seconds, Porsche 911 turbo S: 3.3 seconds, Mercedes CL65 AMG: 4.4 seconds. . . Other sports cars crush this thing.
PHELCAN 8 months ago
I've got a 190 E Mercedes it's not a cosworth though...
Jeffanos 8 months ago
In the video, Richard Hammond quotes the Corrado as being 'cobbled together' from parts from the MK2 Golf at the front and Passat at the rear. This is untrue.
All Corrados except the VR6 are mechanically based on the MK2 Golf. The VR6 is mechanically based on the MK3 Golf abeit with detail changes to the engine. All suspension springs are unique to the Corrado.
I would question the existence of ANY Passat specific parts on the Corrado apart from the 2.0 16v engine and a few interior parts.
CreditMunch 8 months ago
320bit - You are a true cretin.
Never argue with an idiot, they'll bring you down to their level, then beat you with experience...
;-)
Nath88n 8 months ago
@sharpanator think the origional mini is probably the ultimate classic car... saw one near a garage near me on a p reg i think for £8500!!! that was at a citroen garage called broach hill in hutton cranswick they were nowhere near that price when they came out... very very few cars can raise in price like that
vteckicksarse 8 months ago
@sharpanator i agree with the opel/vauxhall vx220 yes i think that will. the focus rs will be because its the first production fwd car to produce over 300bhp.. the honda s2000 because its the highest revving 4 cyl engine voted car of the year many times, the clio v6 i think will also make a future classic maybe not sure what you recon? and lexus is200?? cars that will go down for been not so good - vectra vxr lol..
vteckicksarse 8 months ago
i bet a volvo c30 t5 will be a classic in the future
nickjval 8 months ago
@Anydinosaur I'd prefer the BMW E30 M :)
minimalhuligan 8 months ago
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vlad1million 9 months ago
@Anydinosaur cuz you never drove the vr.
MrRalf012 9 months ago
I'm not gonna lie i've always wanted a mecedes-benz 190 E Evo 2
blujaytwentyone21 9 months ago
in my opinion the mercedes 190E is the best looking car ever.
FIREDELL10 9 months ago
corrado is the best!
JFlopex 9 months ago
i'd prefer the VW Colorado
Muha168 9 months ago
@Muha168 colorado?
poetjester 9 months ago
@Muha168 What car is that.
rvind92g 9 months ago
OMG, Corrado!!!
CrazyCarrotCan 9 months ago
The 190E Cosworth is trash. It was big and slow with a small engine. Mercedes must have been on drugs to think they were gonna do anything with that car, with a 0-60 of nearly 8 seconds its a laugh to be called a sports saloon.
320bit 9 months ago
@320bit You are stupid as hell. The 190E Cosworth 2.5 Evo II is already classic, maybe it's not very quick, but quick enought to compare to the e30 m3 and from 0-60 in under 7 second is good for a early 90's car. No very few car? Mercedes 500E, Audi S2, Audi RS2, Lotus Omega, Alpina B10 Biturbo, BMW M5 E34 3.6, Mclaren F1. You talking shit. You must be from the states.
SuperSedans 8 months ago
@SuperSedans In under 7 seconds? No, it was rated at 7.5 seconds. Which is not much if any faster than my 97 C280.
320bit 8 months ago
@320bit yes The 2.5l M3 with 238hp engine goes in under 7 second, same as the 190E 2.5-16v Evolution II Cosworth 232hp goes in 6.8s. Your Merc is 8.0s to sixty if you look at factory sheet. And what you compare a W201 to a E30 the most successfull car in the touring championship. The base 192 hp M3 with 2.3l has 7.5 seconds. Look at the prices that both cars are achieved - it's still raising.- so they are classics. This M3 and Merc is one of the best cars from this two brands. ever made
SuperSedans 8 months ago
@SuperSedans Well no, it still doesnt do 0-60 in under 7 seconds.
320bit 8 months ago
@320bit Top version of the m3 and 190E cosworth do. Base cars are not.
SuperSedans 8 months ago
@SuperSedans If you want a future classic from Mercedes, look at the C32. Still an amazing and fast car for its size and small engine.
320bit 8 months ago
@320bit The C32 will be never classic, It's not that rare, Classic Benz is R129, W124, W140. The best Mercedes there was. The C32 is simple a good car with a strong engine but there is nothing in it, that is so rare.
SuperSedans 8 months ago
@SuperSedans It doesnt HAVE to be rare to be a classic. As they said, thats only one box to check. Its beautiful car, and its quite interesting given the fact it has a small V6 engine producing about 350hp and weighs around 4500lbs YET it can do 0-60 in 4.5 seconds and top over 185mph. That, and it was by far the fastest 4 door saloon of its day and was even faster than most super cars of its day.
320bit 8 months ago
@320bit sorry man, but C class is no way beautiful, it's rather ugly.
magirktheone 7 months ago
@SuperSedans It was faster than a corvette, viper, and a porsche 911 and it was a luxury sedan with 4 doors and ample trunk space.
320bit 8 months ago
@320bit sorry man 97 C class is a total crap.
magirktheone 8 months ago
@magirktheone Better than the 190 cosworth by a mile.
320bit 8 months ago
Fact is, theres VERY FEW cars from the 80s and 90s that will EVER be classics. And there isnt any in this video. During the 80s and 90s, car companies were all caught up in "fuel economy" that they went from fast sports cars to square boxes with horrible engines.
320bit 9 months ago
What is a KOO-PAY!?
mrekbass 9 months ago
why not a w124 500e???
YiMMA2k5 9 months ago
@YiMMA2k5 too expensive
InDaHoooooood 9 months ago
Is he on crack? 0-60 in 6.7 seconds is SLOW AS HELL.
PHELCAN 9 months ago
@PHELCAN this movie was made in 2003 so a car then thats pretty decent back in 92 it was unheard of to be doin that in a car that small, it was also the first vw to break 150 and stuff like that. The car really superbs on handling and stuff. If the first gear on this thing was faster like how it is when its in the high 2nd gear and 3rd gear it would probally be like a 3~5 sec car
brothersretailers 9 months ago
@brothersretailers Just because it's a good volkswagon, doesn't mean it's a good car.
PHELCAN 9 months ago
@PHELCAN Not many cars make a magazine named of the top 25 cars you must drive before you die.
brothersretailers 9 months ago
@brothersretailers and yet it gets cancelled 3 years after being put into production ( 3:13 ) The thing is a slow, plastic, box, just like every other car from the 90's. And if ferrari or lamborghini, or any other car brand with some decency thought this car was cool, they would be making cars that are like this.
PHELCAN 8 months ago
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PHELCAN 9 months ago
its kinda funny, looking at this now from the future, hes completely right!
RedlineGTSR 10 months ago
@RedlineGTSR try completely wrong, I have yet to see 1 mother fucker who wants one of these
PHELCAN 9 months ago
Does anybody know the music at 3:45??
underscore663 10 months ago
whats wrong with a opel calibra i love it :P
cas1029 10 months ago 2
now it will never be forgotten
MrIdunnno 10 months ago
hah, in the top gear comparison, the 190, m3, and the sierra cosworth, james said martin brundel said the 190 was the best handling sport saloon car, and richard and jeremy said he didnt. they called martin and he said he didnt ever say that. richard just said the opposite. i wish i could go to europe and tell them
topgearfan1997 11 months ago 19
@topgearfan1997 i'd preffer the bmw m3
vteckicksarse 8 months ago
@topgearfan1997 This is Top Gear, they always contradict themselves. And you call yourself a fan.
StanOfGB 7 months ago
@topgearfan1997 it was about chassiss, james said these are brundle's words, jeremy and richard antagonized and so did brundle on the phone. they know rundle also antagonized it, please don't come to europe, stay stupid in your country.
kajetanadamsamuel 7 months ago
@kajetanadamsamuel it was a set up cs martin did say that and i don't blame him
simon199418 7 months ago
@topgearfan1997 James May claimed " martin brundle said it had THE BEST "
Richard says, its one of the best, but not the best alone?
pingpongyul 6 months ago
@pingpongyul
good catch, but why am i getting so much hate for just a comment
topgearfan1997 6 months ago
@topgearfan1997 hey bro im just commenting, trying to figure it out myself. No hate at all ;)
pingpongyul 6 months ago
@pingpongyul
thanks alot, but go ahead and look at all of the other comments that have been replied to me.....trolls
topgearfan1997 6 months ago
plus he's wrong at 4.20, the merc was released generaly before the m3 the m3 was considered a catch up when released by some press, taking nothing away from the mighty m3 of course ..........
c20let260 11 months ago
2.9 vr6 forever, endless torque and seemingless endless revs, with only a cone filter fitted it howls like a demon !!
c20let260 11 months ago
Proud owner of a 190E Cosworth and i love it.
chrisfball12 11 months ago
Hammond says that Martin Brundle praised this chassis, but didn't James May claim the same in another episode (where they tested 3 used German cars) and was shot down by Clarkson and Brundle himself (over the phone)?
lespaulem 11 months ago
I didn't know the Mercedes 190E Cosworth came in automatic. I was one in a dealership once then saw the automatic shifter and thought 'nah, it's just a rebadge. Now I'm not so sure.
morganroate 11 months ago
Did you know that cosworth was two friends! mr costco & mr woolworth.
dickweeeeeeeeeed 1 year ago
i freaking love that mercedes.......i want one!
DRZREALEST 1 year ago 3
the 190 e cosworth is a ridiculous amazing car, it will knock you off your feet
BiHKalashnikov 1 year ago
i'm fucking tired thumbs up already!
pilebaina 1 year ago
@Anydinosaur i like them both! proud 190 & gti owner.
SKAGINOZ 1 year ago
well my girlfriend is mexican and we werent to impresed. but you have to remember unlike the most of the world we have a sense of humor. Our food is shit and so were british leland but theres a reason why you fucking euros always give us nill points at eurovision and i dont need to say what it is do i now.
elzibell07 1 year ago
cars i think will be future classics - new mk2 focus rs, honda s2000, the modern volkswagon beetle, the new ferrari 458...
vteckicksarse 1 year ago
lmao touche lolz see thats comedy! :D Monty python is Comedy and hilarious one too :) but what u guys said over these people is the equivalent of getting a caricature of a Jew from Nazi Germany and making fun based on what you see and thats NOT comedy. telling a people that they have bad teeth is not the same as telling a nation one has never been to that you are better than them. thats just facist and all of u know it :P
YOYOBadmojoJOJO 1 year ago
cars imitate national traits.. British cars are nothing but bad smelling, crooked grilled, pompous , over-estimated,dainty, over priced machines that will probably wear a monocle,have delusions of grandeur, and think its the standard never realizing how much of a dandy it looks. almost as bad as British food but atleast u can stomach blood pudding and fish N chips...imagine one day waking up and knowing you're British? that be great because then i can make racist assessments over others! :D
YOYOBadmojoJOJO 1 year ago
@YOYOBadmojoJOJO i guess thats why american cars tend to be overweight,dull and tacky
eunicefinger 1 year ago
@YOYOBadmojoJOJO relax. they make fun of everyone. i'm american, they always make fun of americans, but i'm not whining and complaining and overreacting to everything. learn to laugh and stop taking things so seriously please.
MrBroth13 1 year ago 11
@MrBroth13 especially, entertainment..
mistreku 11 months ago
viva the mastretta and fuckyou top gear
sntg07 1 year ago
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tigrecadereyta 1 year ago
what about a w124 400E. rare yet give a bite.
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mrbogdan441 1 year ago
I want...both.
croc17046 1 year ago
thumbs up if you own a corrado how about
Mk3DubVR 1 year ago 3
@Mk3DubVR
I hate the Corrado. It looks just like any VW. It actually is just another VW. Expensive in insurance, horrible looking, it´s just awful. And, sorry mate, i am from germany :-)
MarcSchrewe 1 year ago
@MarcSchrewe im sorry dude but you must not have any taste in cars ha ha. im not in love with the rado stock but slammed with wide wheels is where its at.
Mk3DubVR 1 year ago
@MarcSchrewe =o dont germans make cars,and opels?
ZaJaClt 8 months ago
@MarcSchrewe A lot of it is different then any other VW starting with the engine. Its two door, it has unique sporty curves, electronically controlled spoiler, unusual VW rear and front. It actually doesnt look close to a jetta or a golf. Its designed by karmann. Not to mention the interior with the recaro leather is really nice and doest look like the ones in other vws. Its definitely a head turner so i will disagree with you. Fun little sports car. In the proper condition that is.
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pawnmaniak 1 year ago
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Donkonya 1 year ago
The scenes from 3:20 to 3:30 are chilling! You can't help thinking: "What if......?
ratje67 1 year ago
I like that so many Top Gear episodes with VW's include Depeche Mode music. I am sure the producer and I would get along well... my fave cars and fave band!
djkenny 1 year ago
6.7 seconds quick compared to what? a train?
killdac 1 year ago
@killdac are stupid or what.....that car is more the 15 years old.....shitty american cars during that time couldnt do that, some of them cant do that now, i mean in that class of course
ruskiroma 1 year ago
@ruskiroma 1997 Pontiac Grand Prix 6.2 seconds to 60
killdac 1 year ago
@killdac thats younger, also if I am not mistaken that is a bigger engine, at least 3.7 also the quality of that car is not that great
ruskiroma 1 year ago
@ruskiroma your right lol im just being an a hole its actully a 3.8L supercharged but its not really compareable to these cars it was way kind of over priced at 32,000 for a sporty family car thats a lot when you look at it closely
killdac 1 year ago
@killdac yeah i would actually buy that vw if i had the money, the merc maybe,
ruskiroma 1 year ago
@killdac
but its GERMAN. period. that marks end of conversation.
JamesKim13 1 year ago
@killdac to 90% all cars sold within past 100 years
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