@LaDivinaAriell: First of all you shouldn't react like I'm attacking someone, but I'm sorry if I hurt your ego with my OPINION. I'm just saying that I don't like this piece. Doesn't matter who plays it... Again, MY opinion. Where did you see me suggest I can play this better ? That makes your comment pretty senseless to me... To tell you the truth I'm one of the organists of the Notre Dame in Paris. If you want to judge my playing I'd suggest you come to Paris ;)
@organman52 Hmmm. Not my judgement, but....if you wish to not substantiate your views, then let it be so....well, if anyone else would like to discuss this piece in compositional terms, send me a mail sometime. And peace to you organman...
@LaDivinaAriell I tried writing back to you and it would not post. I am trying now again. My view about this 'music' is that it is entirely derivative - texture, tonal and harmonic language, melody, rhythm. In other words, it it not original. While it might be 'effective' and idiomatic for the organ, it does not, as does every true masterpiece, generate itself. This is simply a 'model' piece, technically quite secure, but completely lacking in substance. It is about 100 years overdue.
Yes a composer who screams in a wet way that it is art. Blegh. The last part is nice because of the technique in the playing, but it's still trash which you don't play on an appreciated organ :)
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Does anyone actually think this is music? I don't. But I do think it is the product of someone who actually believes he is a composer. He is not. He is a contriver, plain and simple. I can just see him sitting at the keyboard 'working it out.' But one thing he did NOT do is hear this internally. That, I contend, is impossible.
@organman52 Of course this is music! Petr Eben rules! And pray do tell, how do you know that he didn't hear it internally? Did you maybe go into his head? Were you there when he conceived this? This is possibly one of the best compositions of the entire 20th century. If I were to compose something half as good as this for organ I would be proud one day.
@organman52 Okay, suit yourself. You didn't answer my questions and so, I gather you cannot answer them, making all you say meaningless. :-) Guilty of what maybe? You should not get so upset about a simple question, you know. If you know what you're talking about, you ought to be able to explain why, or else be rendered void, as of now.
@organman52 You may have nothing else to say to me, but I have plenty to say. And would take pleasure in saying it. Please, by all means - air your thoughts. I welcome discussion, I welcome debate. But do not simply toss empty insults, ultimatums and grossly underestimated generalisations around. Your next response, however, will determine whether I shall deem you worthy of rational opposition.
Slower tempo than I am used to hearing. The recording I have is of Gillian Weir on the Ulster Hall organ but I always love to listen to different interpretations! I am always sure to hear some aspect or detail that I have missed before as I certainly have here.
Thank you for this posting ...I really enjoyed it.
I thought it sounded (looked) familiar. I played a few minutes on that organ almost 40 years ago (1970 to be precise) -- when I was visiting some friends of mine who were students there -- and I still remember the good acoustics. Keep up the good work. Every time I hear the Eben piece, I'm reminded of a similar Bolero-like composition by Guy Bovet: Hamburger Totentanz from his 3 Hamburger (the city, not the food) Pieces.
Yes! Sorry - got confused between pages - yes this performance is brilliantly top rate and a most unusual piece! Look forward to hearing more from you.
Not the best performance? Are you joker? It's great!
ArpiCZ 1 year ago
Pretty damn fine job , mate.....wish i could play as well as you.
jazzkeyboardman 1 year ago
Could I ask where you got the sheet music for this. I would like to get hold of a copy. Thanks.
ABLangeveld 1 year ago
@LaDivinaAriell: First of all you shouldn't react like I'm attacking someone, but I'm sorry if I hurt your ego with my OPINION. I'm just saying that I don't like this piece. Doesn't matter who plays it... Again, MY opinion. Where did you see me suggest I can play this better ? That makes your comment pretty senseless to me... To tell you the truth I'm one of the organists of the Notre Dame in Paris. If you want to judge my playing I'd suggest you come to Paris ;)
snoodify 1 year ago
To Ladivinaariell - I am completely UNworthy to discuss anything with the enlightened one [you, of course].
organman52 1 year ago
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LaDivinaAriell 1 year ago
@organman52 Hmmm. Not my judgement, but....if you wish to not substantiate your views, then let it be so....well, if anyone else would like to discuss this piece in compositional terms, send me a mail sometime. And peace to you organman...
LaDivinaAriell 1 year ago
@LaDivinaAriell I tried writing back to you and it would not post. I am trying now again. My view about this 'music' is that it is entirely derivative - texture, tonal and harmonic language, melody, rhythm. In other words, it it not original. While it might be 'effective' and idiomatic for the organ, it does not, as does every true masterpiece, generate itself. This is simply a 'model' piece, technically quite secure, but completely lacking in substance. It is about 100 years overdue.
organman52 1 year ago
@organman52 Thanks for explaining, I appreciate it.
LaDivinaAriell 1 year ago
Wonderful. :)
LaDivinaAriell 1 year ago
Yes a composer who screams in a wet way that it is art. Blegh. The last part is nice because of the technique in the playing, but it's still trash which you don't play on an appreciated organ :)
snoodify 2 years ago
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LaDivinaAriell 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Does anyone actually think this is music? I don't. But I do think it is the product of someone who actually believes he is a composer. He is not. He is a contriver, plain and simple. I can just see him sitting at the keyboard 'working it out.' But one thing he did NOT do is hear this internally. That, I contend, is impossible.
organman52 2 years ago
@organman52 Of course this is music! Petr Eben rules! And pray do tell, how do you know that he didn't hear it internally? Did you maybe go into his head? Were you there when he conceived this? This is possibly one of the best compositions of the entire 20th century. If I were to compose something half as good as this for organ I would be proud one day.
LaDivinaAriell 1 year ago
@LaDivinaAriell You - and others - who subscribe to this garbage are just as guilty as the one who perpetrated it. I have nothing else to say to you.
organman52 1 year ago
@organman52 Okay, suit yourself. You didn't answer my questions and so, I gather you cannot answer them, making all you say meaningless. :-) Guilty of what maybe? You should not get so upset about a simple question, you know. If you know what you're talking about, you ought to be able to explain why, or else be rendered void, as of now.
LaDivinaAriell 1 year ago
@organman52 You may have nothing else to say to me, but I have plenty to say. And would take pleasure in saying it. Please, by all means - air your thoughts. I welcome discussion, I welcome debate. But do not simply toss empty insults, ultimatums and grossly underestimated generalisations around. Your next response, however, will determine whether I shall deem you worthy of rational opposition.
LaDivinaAriell 1 year ago
@LaDivinaAriell I am UNworthy.
organman52 1 year ago
@LaDivinaAriell I am completely UNworthy.
organman52 1 year ago
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LaDivinaAriell 1 year ago
Can someone please point me in the right direction to hear Eben's Concerto for organ and orchestra No. 2.
I'm due to attend a concert where it features, but don't know it and would like to familiarise myself 1st. Thanks.
richardinbrum 2 years ago
Slower tempo than I am used to hearing. The recording I have is of Gillian Weir on the Ulster Hall organ but I always love to listen to different interpretations! I am always sure to hear some aspect or detail that I have missed before as I certainly have here.
Thank you for this posting ...I really enjoyed it.
pjdonagh 2 years ago
Excellent performance... thanks for sharing!
scotq 2 years ago
Very nice registration! But I would've liked the tempo just a little faster. Still, very good and thank you!
niamaztor 3 years ago
What a cool piece! nice playin love the registration
Arky83mi 3 years ago 3
acid...
goresowo 4 years ago 3
Nice playing, Peter. Care to tell us where (in England, I assume) it was?
a55b47 4 years ago
Thanks, It was actually in Scotland, it's the organ at the University of Glasgow Memorial Chapel. Willis III, Rebuilt by Harrisons in 2005.
PYJones 4 years ago
I thought it sounded (looked) familiar. I played a few minutes on that organ almost 40 years ago (1970 to be precise) -- when I was visiting some friends of mine who were students there -- and I still remember the good acoustics. Keep up the good work. Every time I hear the Eben piece, I'm reminded of a similar Bolero-like composition by Guy Bovet: Hamburger Totentanz from his 3 Hamburger (the city, not the food) Pieces.
a55b47 4 years ago
Petr Eben has died today at the age of 78.
zcrzcr 4 years ago
Well done! I have taught this piece--a wonderful piece--and you capture the spirit of it.
pedunbar 4 years ago
In particular, great work on the trio section.
Diaphon 4 years ago
Yes! Sorry - got confused between pages - yes this performance is brilliantly top rate and a most unusual piece! Look forward to hearing more from you.
latribe 4 years ago 2
Sorry, I think you have the wrong piece here. This is not Priere a Notre Dame. But Moto Ostinato from Sonntagsmusik by Petr Eben...
PYJones 4 years ago
wow, the end is great. Playing on three keyboards and with legs too...
CZellist 4 years ago
There are some great organists on You Tube. You are the first to play the great Eben piece.
DesireeDeFete 4 years ago
Gotten some great mileage out of this one. Wonderful concert piece!
Christopher81 4 years ago
Good piece! And the playing is very good also. Might the organ be a skinner?
fourniturev 4 years ago
Thanks, the organ is a Willis, refurbished by Harrison & Harrison
PYJones 4 years ago
A great piece of organ. Well played, bravo - bravissimo! :) I wish I could play organ like you.
Best wishes
fabiano
fabianovogt 4 years ago