Conspiracy Theorist believe that their theory are facts! They have this mentality that the US is about turn into Martial Law anytime! All debunkers are working for the CIA or some form of government agent! These people are paranoid! They don't trust people! They believe that the cops are coming to get them along with the FBI! Why I know all this? Because I once believe in this bullshit back from 2005 to 2009. It is a cult!
911 was an inside job....false flag operation....its been done so many times in history..type false flag operation in you tube and see for your self...its no secret and is fact that these false flag operations went on....do you think that the government love you? do you really think they give a rats ass about you? you are a slave to them!!!!
also top pilots have said the speed and trajectory of the plane was impossible.
also there are eye witness account of a person in the pentagon that exited through the hole where the plane supposedly went in....she seen no plane parts engines or bodies, luggage or anything associated with a plane crash...
they only release 5 fstill frames from the countless video recordings.
why wouldn't they release some video footage showing a plane hitting???
You ask what evidence would you need to admit you are wrong. People have answered your question. Why do you then challenge anyone who answers? You're asking for an opinion.
You have two huge buildings on the brink of collapse in the middle of a huge city. If they topple over side ways they're gonna cause alot of destruction and deaths. Maybe the authorities took the terrible deccission that to save more lives and destruction that it would be best to demolish them safely; a "controled demolition"
this is just a guess, not really even an educated one. I would love to her your thoughts on this....
That's called murder. There's a thing called "protection against the tyranny of the majority", and that's when "killing lives to save more lives" doesn't work.
They wouldn't do that, they would try and save as many people possible. You can never kill people because you THINK it's gonna collapse and MAYBE kill more lives. It doesn't make sense.
I like your observation, but it didn't work this way.
I do see your point but: "You can never kill people because you THINK it's gonna collapse and MAYBE kill more lives. It doesn't make sense." quite a lot of things don't make sense when you look back, a decision made in a moment like that can easily be a very stupid one.
Also what if they had evidence (or thought they did) that it would be very likely that it's gonna collapse (i.e. replace "you THINK" with "your almost certain" and "MAYBE" with " definetly"). It would be different then...
In the chaos of the moment they could of beleived (it even might of been true)) that there was a 199% chance of the buildings collapsing.
And if they had done it I think it would be a completly naturally thing to want to cover it up. If they had done it to save more lives and covered it up because they knew the hell that would come, I would not condem them. Its only human and it would be so much kinder the people whos loved ones died to not tell them. Terrible decisions must be made some times
I don't know what to beleive with this whole 911 thing, I don't know enough to make an opinion and just beleiving what people on you tube tell me would make me just bad as these brainwashed conspirasists. If I had to choose a side a would choose the side of the anti-conspiricy case. I think there is a "conspiracy cult" people just like to beleive them becaus it gives them a thrill, its justanother formed of entertainment.
And its amazing to find somebody who isn't rude and insulting, thanks :D
i have a theory about this and before i say i would liken to point out that i have done NO research what so ever into this, it is just a guess from the few facts i know. Somebody else has probably already come up with it but i have never seen this opinion on you tube before
You have two huge buildings on the brink of collapse in the middle of a huge city. If they topple over side ways they're gonna cause alot of destruction and deaths. Maybe the authorities took the terrible deccission that to save more lives and destruction that it would be best to demolish them safely; a "controled demolition"
this is just a guess, not really even an educated one. I would love to her your thoughts on this....
It's just like what I say: those conspiracists just tell things they are told by some other person further until they soley believe it, and there is no evidence, nothing to back it up and when you say anything against their thoughts, they personnaly attack you and post a silly response video of how they are right because they are uneducationed, nut-jobs who are 30+ and lives at their parents house in basement and tries to argue and talk about how they know what is true! it's so crazy! lol
explain to me how 19 haji's (seven who are still alive and well)with box cutters who took lessons on single engine sesna planes(and were horrible on those) flew 3 commercial airliners (these are not experienced pilots) with pinpoint accuracy into the twin towers and pentagon. who cares if towers did not fall at exactly freefall speed!! there was NO resistance. these are steel fking buildings not wood or straw.
Who cares if you're wrong? You aren't making any sense: it doesn't matter if the building did not fall at freefall speed... there was no resistance? What?
I have a lot to say- a lot was said in the video, and you didn't address a single piece of it. Well, actually, you tried- but you just ended up contradicting yourself.
@djbasx007 prove it dumbass!!! all you guys bring forward is theories and bull shit explinations for it!!! Once you have a legit specialist on your side, actually make that more than just one come talk to me!
Well, you used a lot of words- but you said nothing. Remember when you said there was no scientific consensus? Remember when you said that the collapse was "rare" (implying suspect)? Remember when you said that the steel was recycled before it could be investigated? I refuted that and your only response was to claim I don't have the proper "credentials"... Come up with something better with that and use ONE post.
When was the rarity of the three collapses of steel-framed buildings in the same day refuted? I also conceded the fact that the scraps had a decent amount of exposure to the authorities that were concerned at the time. I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm not a nut. So relax. Your negative comment 'come up with something better' implies I'm grasping at straws. Both the sites you mentioned have difficulty with alot of what happened on that day but seek to explain it. Disclaimers abound.
Again, you're not saying much. You're looking for an excuse for your lies, and the best thing you can come up with is that some people somewhere have questions- but you can't even get specific as to why or what those questions are- or why they're pertinent. You ARE grasping at straws.
Just because you refuse to see that I've said something doesn't mean I've said nothing. Also, I refuse to allow you to limit the number of my posts. I, as you, have the freedom to posts as I see fit in an effort to respond. If this was anomolous I think I may've been moderated already as I tend to ramble. There's nothing wrong with it.
Just because you claim to have said something doesn't mean you have.
You don't have the option of spamming endlessly. If you can't reach a point quick and actually address the issues without blabbing on for 5 posts at a time, you will be suspended. There is something wrong with it- it's a waste of space, and it's a stalling tactic for people who have nothing useful to say or provide. It ends now.
Don't be ridiculous. Your remarks are purely provocation. You aren't interested in what anyone has to say it seems. You've taken an opinion on me and what I may possibly represent from my initial comment and it has spiraled down since. It does end now. I have no need for you or what you call 'truth-seeking'. You're being purposefully condescending.
Try me. Did you forget which video you're posting in? All you're doing is dancing around the issues, pretending that there's some sort of ambiguity about the facts, and then refusing to acknowledge that your lies were corrected ages ago. What do you have left? Nothing. So you attack me instead and pretend that your failures are my fault. Nobody buys that nonsense, kiddo- so either address these issues or move on.
over 100 people watched the plane hitting and also i was asked not long ago to go to a field where a b25 crashed into the ground well the diggers dug a hole 20 foot into the ground before the body of the plane was found 28 foot before the engines where found also Cordite is a family of smokeless propellants developed to replace gunpowder as a military propellant. Like gunpowder, Cordite is classified as a low explosive because of its slow burning rates and consequently low brisance
If you wish to present a link to a site or a video or something that has covered these facts about the events that have data to back them (as some evidence from that day was destroyed) please correspond in your time. A response will be sufficient as I have set up my account to alert me by email when I get responses to comments. I look forward to your replies.
I present a couple sites and links in my Conspiracist Challenge Redux video. I suggest you do further research starting from those links so that you can correct the lies you have been told and stop perpetuating the myths of the so-called "Truth Movement"- especially things like "the steel was destroyed before it could be studied", and insinuations that scientists are stumped, here. These claims are so easily debunked that it's no mystery the conspiracist movement is dying.
Alrighty well... I went to the sites you suggested and they seemed to try and give their own opinion (honorably, they included a caution that stated they may be a bit off considering their lack of knowledge in the fields of research to which these matters pertain) and the opinion of one 'expert' whom I couldn't find after doing normal searches online. What I meant was a consensus on the particular mechanics of the collapses. Not more random speculation by people who THINK they have it right.
What you call "speculation" is- in fact- scientific inquiry. Just because you don't like the general consensus doesn't mean you get to pretend like it isn't there.
Dr. W. Gene Corley is the man cited as saying the scraps were taken to scrap yards and then perused by investigators with 'full access'. He is the man in charge of the first investigation co-headed by FEMA that produced the 'pancake-by-truss-failure' scenario. NIST in the next two years would conclude an investigation that would oppose this entirely. I'm saying that there is room for more investigation from open minded folks. I'm looking for evidence not more conjecture.
Notice how you haven't refuted anything, here. Your claims were addressed and your only response is to blurt out information and pretend it's pertinent.
The evidence is easily obtainable- you just need to do a little bit of research.
Two differing reports? "Differing" in what way- in what timespan- based on what evidence?
The only reason you could possibly find that suspect is if you had not read these reports, and had little or no understanding of basic scientific principles.
The evidence isn't so easily obtainable is it, though? Honest researchers are still having difficulty with the official stories (both of them). I'm not saying the government blew up the buildings, but there are things no one can explain about those events. Including the two sites you mentioned. Again, sorry for the number of posts. If it's bothering for you just tell me and I'll stop and go away. No need to continue this discussion if you're going to take offense start calling me names.
No, like I said before- you just need to do a little bit of research.
Name one thing that is not- as you say- explainable, and then you can provide your theory and its supporting evidence and then explain why it's a conspiracy.
What seems strange to me is that an accurate model for the identical collapses of the two structures cannot be settled upon by those that contend it fell from the structural and thermal damage. Pancake, Truss, what have you. Certainly it is rare for steel-framed, concrete buildings to collapse in exactly the same fashion after two to three hours of burning at its very top. An event like this should have been looked into and studied. The remains, however, were gathered and recycled in Jersey.
You're just plain wrong on all fronts: an "accurate model" (which is quite an ambiguous statement) was certainly settled upon. The idea that there's some major disagreement between a "pancake or truss" collapse is simply untrue. It's rare- even unheard of- for steel-framed truss construction buildings to be hit by planes in a suicidal attack, so the fact that it's rare that they fall is the result of 2 out of 2 cases of it happening.
The steel and the collapse were studied extensively.
You don't have the credentials or the references to call me 'just plain wrong'. Anything you come up with is just your views on the expert you've decided to place your trust in. I'm sure you've read the FEMA report, right? "Because the ...impacts into the two buildings...are insufficient to cause collapse without fire..." Then the glue that holds this together: the truss theory, is called into question by a later investigation. Don't YOU want to know the truth?
Typical ad hominem from a hypocrite- terrified of the facts. I have plenty of information- I've done the research- I know what I'm talking about. If you had the same background you wouldn't need to pretend that my "credentials and references" are relevant: you would simply address the facts. Instead you pretend like there is no scientific consensus, and it just matters what "expert" you believe... as if there's some ambiguous middle ground that has nothing to do with the facts.
lol, he said you are trying to make us look like a bunch of idiots...
HEY fat guy in blue shirt, you make yourself look like a fucking idiot... I hope he leaves this video up forever so that the entire world will know untill you die that you are most definately a FUCKING IDIOT.
Don't CDs usually happen at the base as well? The "free fall" actually occured around the area the planes went in as the steel supports weakened (not melted) and the building began to buckle.
While I don't believe the video shown of a plane flying into the Pentagon is good because the video is crap, I do believe the damage to the Pentagon is sufficient to be caused by an airliner considering the impact could have caused the wings/horizontal stabilizers to collapse inward. The fact there's no better video of a plane into the Pentagon is because no one was out there w/their video cameras (perhaps security at the Pentagon) as were at the WTC. The security videos are too far away.
That's CLEARLY a lie. If anything I'm starting the timer too late since I went by the time that the commander HEARD the building start to fall- and sound travels relatively slow. My timing in the video is conservative- you simply cannot argue with that.
You cannot tell me my facts are correct- and then pretend that you don't even know the source. The source is the recovery teams for the Flight 93 crash site. If you want to claim I'm wrong- you're going to have to do a lot more than just ask stupid questions, though.
now. im not saying i exactly knew who did this. im not taking one side or antoher. but there is more evidence against our government than who we call, "al qaeda" yes we did give them that name in the 90s. i can see the point you are trying to make. its a good point. but i dont see myself ever beliving it. im not trying to start stuff im just applying the use of my 1st ammendment.
The "use" of the 1st Amendment does not mean you can ABANDON using your mind. Yes, I recommend you don't start shit, because your lie claiming that you have evidence will very quickly be debunked.
dude... you just want to show your support for republicans. ill give you tht you really back them up but seriously.. 1. your freefall parts were wrong. after the building collapsed there was an after shock which spread everything out. your extra 8 or 9 seconds is the sound off debris. 2. with how everything has gone with bush and everyone in his cabinet i wouldnt doubt that they did this. they certainly have the power. america has a problem with others having nuclear weapons when we have themost
I'm not sure why you think I'm "backing up Republicans" but apparently all you can do is repeat what you're told to repeat- and hating Republicans is your parties main agenda. 1) Makes no sense at all, and is contradicted by the evidence. 2) I don't give a shit. I'm not a Bush supporter, and that has absolutely nothing to do with this video.
thanks again toto, they are resorting to excluding comments on their blogs that contradict their claims, so they are clearly rattled. But obvious evedence aside, dont the understand that in order to conduct a demo, you have to pull off the drywalls to expose the steel under everyones noses? Dont they understand the sounds a demo makes? Dont the understand the evidence of a demo would be obvious? Dont the understand how many agencies and people who have to be in on the plan to make it happen?
You know totvader I've been looking at your comments and arguments here. I'd like to be able to call them out as easilty as you do, and I also have seen that in every video that these assholes repeat the same tactics and regurgitate the same articles.
Ron Paul is the only candidate not apart of CFR(Counsil on Foreign Relation) lol now thats enough said, if you have any idea about the history of the world(last 100years come on o_O)
Anyways the fact you make a video attacking someone, proves have weak willed you are and cannot prove otherwise, much like the guy you attack in this video, you both idiots xD
Man i dont even both wasting time on you low-lives anymore, enjoy my music and favs exposing the government as being murderous bastards.
lakemchalicer - I have warned you far too many times about spamming. Since you do not seem to grasp this concept and have now decided to just repost your comments over and over, I have removed the reposts and suspended you for a period of 3 days. At the conclusion of those 3 days, I expect a clear, well-thought, and well-supported refutation of this video.
The real conspiracy is the official story as there is no evidence hence it is a theory -
Watch the RUSSO INTERVIEW and debunk that. The truth is begining to take hold the ridicule used by the 'debunkers' is begining to make them loOk VERY SILLY INDEED. THE DESPERATION of the goverment and the bankers will result in desperate measures - say bye bye (or rather sell sell) to the US Dollar. I expect another attack worse than 911 AND MARTIAL LAW and attack on Iran and draft - WILL YOU DEBUNK THAT
Not only are you wrong on the facts- you can't even get your definitions right. Add to that the fact that you haven't even presented an argument- all you are doing is spamming various conspiracy theory titles and expecting that to save you from your own incompetence.
No more spamming. Either address the video, provide an answer to my Challenge, or move on.
wake up america stop wasting your time watching videos time is drawing close - they knew the 911 thing only has to hold the shit untill 911 part two and martial law bio data cards FEMA camps the Iran attack and the draft. stop watching silly videos and act before your dollar is dead and replaced with the nafta amero. by the way this video can not even debunk or ridicule a weak 'truther'.
as I have said the 'official' story is unable to 'debunk' even the weakest person armed with the limited knowledge that is the truth - THE OFFICIAL STORY DOES NOT STAND UP NOT EVEN ON SUCH A LEVEL -All you have is RIDICULE and that is begining to make the 'debunkers' look VERY SILLY INDEED. Watch the RUSSO interviews and Film Freedom tyo Facism - how do you 'debunk' that - the facade is begining to fall so phase two of the dollar collapse will be brought forward even so 'HoldingBackTheTide'????
As your so fantastic at debunking why not watch the 'Aaron Russo Architecture Of A Prison Planet' interview its on my channel or you tube it.
I look forward to your debunk response to this - I really do. 9 11 is such a joke its boring to me I can not be bothered to waste time argueing compartmentalised points that prove nothing - step back and look at the bigger picture - thats what people are starting to do and no one not even you can debunk it with credibility. good luck.
You can't waste time "argueing compartmentalised points" [sic] but you want me to watch one of your videos and debunk it for you?
You can't even provide a shred of evidence for your claims. You can't back up a single thing you have said and you want me to waste my time talking to a brick wall?
No evidence will convince you- you are not interested in the facts. There is NO REASON for me to waste ANY time on you at all. Back up a SINGLE claim you have made and I will reconsider.
you are obviously unable to grasp the truth or reality - as I said above the official story can not even debunk a weak truther armed with limited facts of the truth this vid fails to even do that which shows more just how wacky and insulting the official story is. People need to now stop wasting time with all this stpid arguement thats all that is left for the official story is to create distract from the real point (REVOLT AND IMPEACH) create frustration and ridicule.
You are obviously threatened by this video and feel the need to go on and on and on about nonsense thinking that it will save you from your lack of an argument. It won't.
"Pretty much pointless" and "proved hardly anything" are both statements that are pretty telling: you have no counter-argument, you just think that calling people "stupid" and "fool" is good enough.
How much simpler do you want me to get? I just said that i thought the person who spoke in the video was a blabbering idiot. Originally i thought it was you in the video, but it turned out it wasn't. So basically i called you a stupid idiot for casting this video on your channel and agreeing with this guy in the video. Is that simple enough to understand?
Clearly, you're a bright one... I've already gone over why expecting a clear picture of a 757 is irrational, but perhaps you can explain what it IS, instead...
The skeptic remarked: There is no "adequate" picture or footage of a plane flying into the pentagon. TRUE or FALSE? You follow up with that horrendous 5-framer that everybody's seen which you at the same time admit: "expecting a clear picture of a 757 is irrational". Good job on proving his point and debunking nobody except yourself.
I'm not sure why you think that proves his point. My point was that it's irrational to expect a clear picture- I then show what is available and ask why it's insufficient... your response was "it doesn't show a plane" which is just as irrational as when I first pointed it out. Are you capable of answering the question or not?
what i wonder is that if a missile did hit the pentagon then how did the 5 lightpoles come down. plus i have had no debate on the pentagon pics i sent out. Now someone will debate me out of spite
No adequate picture ??? perhaps , but there are hundreds of eyewtinesses ......... or is that NOT good enough for you ?????? It would be in a court of law
Ah! - So there are no "adequate pictures" afterall, it's good that you admit it. You've been reduced to your so-called eye witnesses (more like news media personnel) who are worth jack shit. Mike Walter from USAToday says he saw the passengers INSIDE the bloody plane as it flew 500mph+ - sure buddy. I'm glad that liar gets harrassed by skeptics and researchers all the time, I would gladly have him testify under oath.
That video doesn't even show a plane hitting, all it shows is the pentagon blowing up.
Why are over 80 cctv tapes witheld by the FBI? If i saw them, then i would believe it, and that is what he is on about. Your twisting his words to make him sound foolish.
THESE tapes, plus 2 more (total of 4) were "withheld" by the FBI. Now that they're released and DO NOT show a missile- how do you think these "80 tapes" (which we don't even know really exist) actually show something sinister?
He sounds foolish on his own- I didn't have to twist anything.
Do you have security clearance to see every single tape and angle from the Pentagon?
I don't. And being a conspiracy theorist doesn't suddenly grant you that security clearance. We have the tapes from that ANGLE- we have OTHER ANGLES. No missile. Just a plane. A plane filled with PEOPLE, people whose remains were RECOVERED and POSITIVELY IDENTIFIED.
Are you even slightly aware of what the Pentagon is? You want to see every single security tape from the Pentagon (again, assuming they exist)- that's not at all reasonable.
Have you filed an FOIA request? Do you WANT to know the truth, or are you happy being a conspiracist?
I cannot post links on youtube, you know that. So stop asking for evidence and links that i cannot supply on here.
I've told you a couple of questions which haven't been answered properly, there are hundreds of others, but i only have 500 letters for each box, so it isn't big enough.
I'm asking you for evidence- you don't need to "link" to anything.
You have not given me any questions which have not been answered- you said "the Commission Report" and claimed there were omissions which only showed you DON'T UNDERSTAND what the Commission was tasked with.
The causes and the failures which led to the attack- not the reasons buildings fall down.
For that you have to look to the NIST report. AGAIN- do you have ANY evidence contradicting the findings of the NIST report, or do you just REPEAT WHAT YOU'RE TOLD TO REPEAT?
Then again- what evidence do you have contradicting the findings of the NIST report?
You keep claiming you can think for yourself- but I'll I've seen you do is avoid the Challenge and pretend that you have evidence which you won't even mention.
The fat guy makes good points! And every time you timed these buildings EXPLODING the beginning of the collapse are bombs going off BEFORE they came down. Slick but I need more!
The sound of explosives is a sharp percussive sound that is patently obvious.
You could try to squirm out of it by positing tens of thousands of tiny charges rigged to explode at random intervals to avoid that unfortunate fact. But this leads to an impossibly large conspiracy and you still could not use explosives anywhere near the perimeter columns.
Omnidimensional - I warned you about spamming several times. Your comments have been removed and you have been permanently banned. You had previously been suspended TWICE for this same nonsense and you just could not help yourself. Apparently, you can't think for yourself, either- because you are using this tirade to avoid the Challenge and the questions I had presented to you.
This is one of the most beautifully-documented shellackings I have ever witnessed. Especially since "arachnodauthi" pretty-much represents all truthdorks everywhere.
If you're talking about totovader being a flagellant, then you are correct. Otherwise you're just deluded. You think he's "debunked" someone just because he ends up blocking them eventually? I don't think there's been a complete conversation on this video.
Do some real research and look into Col. Schaffer, Robert Baer, Sibel Edmonds, Amle Danger, Mahmoud Ahmed, ISI, and all the foreign intelligence on the hijackers that was ignored.
And you think you're victorious because you can dodge the question long enough and create such a shit storm of spamming that you can get blocked?
The FACT that I gave you several chances to answer ONE QUESTION shows that it's on you- bud. You failed to make your case- you failed to defend your position.
I thought I was friends with most of the major debunkers. How did I miss your videos until today? humm probably some kind of illuminatti mind control device :)
Omnidimensional - I know you're familiar with the Challenge because you've avoided it before. You have already been suspended, but since I know you're eager to enter the real world- I'll give you a week to come up with an answer this time, no more dodging the question. You've been suspended for one week.
onegus - You obviously need some time to come up with an answer. Take some time to cool off, think about it real hard- consult a friend if you need to. In 3 days, you can come back and provide an answer to my Challenge. You have been suspended for 3 days.
The same goes for you onegus - I addressed your claims and provided the evidence necessary to debunk them. YOU HAVE NO COUNTER, so instead you're throwing a fit. You need to accept the fact that you were wrong. Either address my Challenge or move on. No more dodging the issue.
blah blah blah... You are wrong from the beginning to the end, and you "Challenge" is just a disgusting game. Provide the evidence to justify 6,7 second collaps without breaking Newton laws, clown. WTC7 IS THE UNDEBUNKABLE SMOKING GUN that will throw denier bastards like you in the garbages of History !
Like I said- if my Challenge is "disgusting" (whatever that means) then you should be able to satisfy it easily enough. You KNOW it was not a 6 second collapse, and you KNOW that the videos I've ALREADY provided debunk your claims about 7. You have to avoid THINKING and EVIDENCE in order to believe your nonsense.
Omnidimensional - I'm not going to warn you again. I've already addressed and debunked your claims. You need to either address my Challenge or move on. You cannot continue to pretend like your position is solid if you can't even be bothered to THINK for yourself.
What's with this, "warning" nonsense? You post this video up here, supposedly for debate, you LIMIT the debate to its most asinine aspects, trying to FORCE someone to accept your erroneous structure of beliefs, and then block them when they refuse.
I already explained this in the Challenge video: it's a waste of my time to debunk all of these lies that you perpetrate because all you do is ignore the rebuttal and just move right on to the next lie. The problem is your INABILITY TO CRITICALLY THINK, not the facts.
If you were satisfying mine or ANYONE else's criteria, then we wouldn't have any possible way of continuing to argue with you. All you are doing here is over-asserting your opinion. I don't do opinions, which is why I don't like arguing about the buildings. EITHER WAY YOU CHOOSE TO BELIEVE IT'S CONJECTURE. It's a fact there were many explosions; all we can do is GUESS at what caused them.
Buildings are not opinions. Facts are not opinions. People who cannot argue the facts because they know they are wrong just call everything an opinion to avoid it.
Thanx totovader for helping spreading the Truth on 9/11 !! Your omnipresence in the comments keeps the thread alive, and expose clearly the disinformation methods used by science & truth deniers like you and your debunkers fellows... 9/11 is not a question of patriotism or conspiracy, 9/11 is a question of basic physics that's why the Movement will never stop growing. Thanx again, and when the Truth will break out, just say that you were an undercover truther ! ;-)
You ignored the evidence, made claims you were unable to support- and ran away from the rebuttal to the lies you perpetrated. When you say that there's "disinformation methods", YOU'RE DEMONSTRATING THEM. You ignore the facts and pretend the evidence doesn't exist. You're wrong- and now you know it.
Omnidimensional - No more spamming, you need to respond to the Challenge or move on. I'm not going to debunk your claims all over again just because you can't accept the facts. I've already responded to your lies, and you had no rebuttal- apparently all you can do is repeat them like you're told to do. Instead, let's see if you can THINK FOR YOURSELF and respond to my Challenge.
"Spamming." You've never debunked ANYTHING, and you never will. I've not told a SINGLE lie here. I responded to your challenge loooong time ago. FIRST THING I POSTED? We've been through this. I did exactly as you asked, you were SUPPOSED to be open for questions, but you LIED. YOU ARE THE LIAR HERE.
Acknowledge the fact that Bin Laden is not wanted by the FBI for 911, acknowledge Able Danger, Robert Baer, Sibel Edmonds, and foreign intel. Your existence here is a denial of reality.
Clearly, you're wrong. You just cup your ears and scream "you aren't debunking, you aren't debunking" hoping the FACTS will go away.
You did not do as I asked- you are HERE doing EXACTLY what I warned AGAINST in that video: dogpiling claims and refusing to respond to the evidence. When you answer the Challenge- you will have my full attention.
Who cares if I, "dogpile" claims? Can you debunk any of them? Can you prove me wrong? I think not which is why YOU dodge, run away and block people from commenting anymore.
Yes, and I DO debunk them- but the fact that you need to dogpile claims INSTEAD of recognizing what your errors are shows just how biased and unscientific you are. That's exactly what I was cautioning against in my video. And now all you can do is repeat what you're told to repeat, you can't even think for yourself. That doesn't bother you at all?
I am thinking for myself. I was told on the news that a paper passport carried by one of the terrorists, was propelled out of the explosion of one of the planes impacting the WTC, and it landed unscathed a few blocks away, to be discovered by the FBI. I choose not to believe this nonsense.
You haven't debunked a single one of my actual CLAIMS, because you refuse to talk about my CLAIMS until I decide to agree with you that it was definitely a plane that hit the Pentagon.
I never said anything about you having to say anything about planes. I said that you need to stop dogpiling these claims and ignoring the evidence by addressing my Challenge. You have obviously put a lot of energy into doing that which shows that your bias and unscientific position is based entirely on what you are TOLD to say- you cannot THINK FOR YOURSELF.
totovader knows NOTHING more than the SHILL, Davin Coburn, or anyone else, "debunking":
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totovader claimed not to even be aware of classified pictures of WTC 7. Why can't we see the pictures, or video of a plane colliding with the Pentagon?
Conspiracy Theorist believe that their theory are facts! They have this mentality that the US is about turn into Martial Law anytime! All debunkers are working for the CIA or some form of government agent! These people are paranoid! They don't trust people! They believe that the cops are coming to get them along with the FBI! Why I know all this? Because I once believe in this bullshit back from 2005 to 2009. It is a cult!
a10of20borg 3 months ago
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megamogx 4 months ago
911 was an inside job....false flag operation....its been done so many times in history..type false flag operation in you tube and see for your self...its no secret and is fact that these false flag operations went on....do you think that the government love you? do you really think they give a rats ass about you? you are a slave to them!!!!
WAKE UP
videogangstar 1 year ago
also top pilots have said the speed and trajectory of the plane was impossible.
also there are eye witness account of a person in the pentagon that exited through the hole where the plane supposedly went in....she seen no plane parts engines or bodies, luggage or anything associated with a plane crash...
they only release 5 fstill frames from the countless video recordings.
why wouldn't they release some video footage showing a plane hitting???
they confiscated all cctv recordings
videogangstar 1 year ago
totovader ...Are you trying to be clever or something????
You also have no evidence of what this guy is saying is false.
for a start i diddnt see any plane at the pentagon neither.
also when he says cut...i think he means thermite which was seen pouring out of the building before it collapsed.
and the hole in 9 foot of reinforced concrete by the nose of a plane is impossible...which has been proven.
there was a small hole before the pentagon collapsed with no engine holes in the building.
videogangstar 1 year ago
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You ask what evidence would you need to admit you are wrong. People have answered your question. Why do you then challenge anyone who answers? You're asking for an opinion.
xXxSlowPoke 1 year ago
@TazG2000 were they questions or claims? Make up your mind
xD4NNOx 1 year ago
@xD4NNOx What the hell are you talking about? I haven't posted here in 3 years. Are you still as delusional as you were back then?
TazG2000 1 year ago
@TazG2000 that depends ... does seeking answers to unanswered questions mean that a person is delusional? in that case yes I am
xD4NNOx 1 year ago
@xD4NNOx Your questions were answered at least 3 years ago. Your delusion is evident in your belief that the answers are unacceptable.
TazG2000 1 year ago
@TazG2000 lol 'unnacceptable' is a big word for you, did you use a thesaurus?
xD4NNOx 1 year ago
@xD4NNOx Um, it's actually a very common word. Is that all you have to say?
TazG2000 1 year ago
totovader tries to explain physics with philosophy
xD4NNOx 1 year ago
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this video maker debunks himself
xD4NNOx 1 year ago
Good video. Glade to see you made him eat his own words.
chaybo 2 years ago 2
You have two huge buildings on the brink of collapse in the middle of a huge city. If they topple over side ways they're gonna cause alot of destruction and deaths. Maybe the authorities took the terrible deccission that to save more lives and destruction that it would be best to demolish them safely; a "controled demolition"
this is just a guess, not really even an educated one. I would love to her your thoughts on this....
AleXXXander118118 2 years ago
That's called murder. There's a thing called "protection against the tyranny of the majority", and that's when "killing lives to save more lives" doesn't work.
They wouldn't do that, they would try and save as many people possible. You can never kill people because you THINK it's gonna collapse and MAYBE kill more lives. It doesn't make sense.
I like your observation, but it didn't work this way.
sgthobbes2 2 years ago
I do see your point but: "You can never kill people because you THINK it's gonna collapse and MAYBE kill more lives. It doesn't make sense." quite a lot of things don't make sense when you look back, a decision made in a moment like that can easily be a very stupid one.
Also what if they had evidence (or thought they did) that it would be very likely that it's gonna collapse (i.e. replace "you THINK" with "your almost certain" and "MAYBE" with " definetly"). It would be different then...
AleXXXander118118 2 years ago
But no one gets clearance unless there is 100% chance it will collapse, and even THEN, you try to get as many people out as possible.
Not enough people would've agreed in such a small amount of time, and plus that's capital murder by the government and they can be sued.
sgthobbes2 2 years ago
In the chaos of the moment they could of beleived (it even might of been true)) that there was a 199% chance of the buildings collapsing.
And if they had done it I think it would be a completly naturally thing to want to cover it up. If they had done it to save more lives and covered it up because they knew the hell that would come, I would not condem them. Its only human and it would be so much kinder the people whos loved ones died to not tell them. Terrible decisions must be made some times
AleXXXander118118 2 years ago
but looking at everything realistically, there are so many rules and regulations, they couldn't just blow up the buildings in the chaos of the moment
they'd have to get approval from SO many people, and not only that, even if they're extremely sure, they still can't do it
they could never get away with it, not everyone would agree, and even if they're 199% sure, there's no way to tell 100% that it will happen
it's just not realistic
sgthobbes2 2 years ago
Oops, didn't see that "199%", obviously I ment 100%, but I think you worked that out. :D
I do understand what your saying but I still think that maybe somebody could of overruled all those rules and done it.
I have only been defending this case for the sake of giving everything a chance which I beleive is the only way to find the truth.
AleXXXander118118 2 years ago
I don't know what to beleive with this whole 911 thing, I don't know enough to make an opinion and just beleiving what people on you tube tell me would make me just bad as these brainwashed conspirasists. If I had to choose a side a would choose the side of the anti-conspiricy case. I think there is a "conspiracy cult" people just like to beleive them becaus it gives them a thrill, its justanother formed of entertainment.
And its amazing to find somebody who isn't rude and insulting, thanks :D
AleXXXander118118 2 years ago
i have a theory about this and before i say i would liken to point out that i have done NO research what so ever into this, it is just a guess from the few facts i know. Somebody else has probably already come up with it but i have never seen this opinion on you tube before
(see next post, it couldn't fit in here)
AleXXXander118118 2 years ago
You have two huge buildings on the brink of collapse in the middle of a huge city. If they topple over side ways they're gonna cause alot of destruction and deaths. Maybe the authorities took the terrible deccission that to save more lives and destruction that it would be best to demolish them safely; a "controled demolition"
this is just a guess, not really even an educated one. I would love to her your thoughts on this....
AleXXXander118118 2 years ago
It's just like what I say: those conspiracists just tell things they are told by some other person further until they soley believe it, and there is no evidence, nothing to back it up and when you say anything against their thoughts, they personnaly attack you and post a silly response video of how they are right because they are uneducationed, nut-jobs who are 30+ and lives at their parents house in basement and tries to argue and talk about how they know what is true! it's so crazy! lol
CDTbossy 2 years ago
i started laughing about 2:14 in ... you rule man.
g0tt0rque 3 years ago
pwnage.
pest3955 3 years ago
Owned
free2vivir 3 years ago
Oh and where's the evidence from the 9/11 Truthers?
WhyAskQuestions 3 years ago
Does a kid play with flight simluators all day long prove that even the 19 hijackers are capable of such a feat?
If a kid can fly a virtual plane and then fly a real 1 later on in life proves that the 19 hijackers did pretty much the same as a kid.
WhyAskQuestions 3 years ago
lol, this video means Absolutely NOTHING!!
explain to me how 19 haji's (seven who are still alive and well)with box cutters who took lessons on single engine sesna planes(and were horrible on those) flew 3 commercial airliners (these are not experienced pilots) with pinpoint accuracy into the twin towers and pentagon. who cares if towers did not fall at exactly freefall speed!! there was NO resistance. these are steel fking buildings not wood or straw.
djbasx007 3 years ago
Who cares if you're wrong? You aren't making any sense: it doesn't matter if the building did not fall at freefall speed... there was no resistance? What?
Can you make some sense out of your babbling?
totovader 3 years ago
babbling??!! thats all you have to say? you gotta be kidding me. both you and the guy you're ripping in this video are both idiots.
djbasx007 3 years ago
I have a lot to say- a lot was said in the video, and you didn't address a single piece of it. Well, actually, you tried- but you just ended up contradicting yourself.
totovader 3 years ago
contradictions??
djbasx007 3 years ago
Reading comprehension?
totovader 3 years ago
@djbasx007 prove it dumbass!!! all you guys bring forward is theories and bull shit explinations for it!!! Once you have a legit specialist on your side, actually make that more than just one come talk to me!
pocomedy 2 weeks ago
HAHA that was awsome
lafther210 3 years ago
3 weeks and nothing from the Conspiracists?
Holy shit! They have nothing to say!!
WhyAskQuestions 3 years ago
My challenge to the Conspiracist:
Where's your evidence???
WhyAskQuestions 3 years ago
LMAO you're still going toto??
Don't you feel silly yet?
xD4NNOx 3 years ago
Still going? This video is almost 2 years old...
I'm betting you've done more research by now- and you have changed your mind.
totovader 3 years ago
stupid character limit.... sorry I know it seems as if I'm spamming but I'm not. I hope you don't respond negatively....
tetraxiphos 3 years ago
Well, you used a lot of words- but you said nothing. Remember when you said there was no scientific consensus? Remember when you said that the collapse was "rare" (implying suspect)? Remember when you said that the steel was recycled before it could be investigated? I refuted that and your only response was to claim I don't have the proper "credentials"... Come up with something better with that and use ONE post.
totovader 3 years ago
When was the rarity of the three collapses of steel-framed buildings in the same day refuted? I also conceded the fact that the scraps had a decent amount of exposure to the authorities that were concerned at the time. I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm not a nut. So relax. Your negative comment 'come up with something better' implies I'm grasping at straws. Both the sites you mentioned have difficulty with alot of what happened on that day but seek to explain it. Disclaimers abound.
tetraxiphos 3 years ago
Again, you're not saying much. You're looking for an excuse for your lies, and the best thing you can come up with is that some people somewhere have questions- but you can't even get specific as to why or what those questions are- or why they're pertinent. You ARE grasping at straws.
totovader 3 years ago
Just because you refuse to see that I've said something doesn't mean I've said nothing. Also, I refuse to allow you to limit the number of my posts. I, as you, have the freedom to posts as I see fit in an effort to respond. If this was anomolous I think I may've been moderated already as I tend to ramble. There's nothing wrong with it.
tetraxiphos 3 years ago
Just because you claim to have said something doesn't mean you have.
You don't have the option of spamming endlessly. If you can't reach a point quick and actually address the issues without blabbing on for 5 posts at a time, you will be suspended. There is something wrong with it- it's a waste of space, and it's a stalling tactic for people who have nothing useful to say or provide. It ends now.
totovader 3 years ago
Don't be ridiculous. Your remarks are purely provocation. You aren't interested in what anyone has to say it seems. You've taken an opinion on me and what I may possibly represent from my initial comment and it has spiraled down since. It does end now. I have no need for you or what you call 'truth-seeking'. You're being purposefully condescending.
tetraxiphos 3 years ago
Try me. Did you forget which video you're posting in? All you're doing is dancing around the issues, pretending that there's some sort of ambiguity about the facts, and then refusing to acknowledge that your lies were corrected ages ago. What do you have left? Nothing. So you attack me instead and pretend that your failures are my fault. Nobody buys that nonsense, kiddo- so either address these issues or move on.
totovader 3 years ago
over 100 people watched the plane hitting and also i was asked not long ago to go to a field where a b25 crashed into the ground well the diggers dug a hole 20 foot into the ground before the body of the plane was found 28 foot before the engines where found also Cordite is a family of smokeless propellants developed to replace gunpowder as a military propellant. Like gunpowder, Cordite is classified as a low explosive because of its slow burning rates and consequently low brisance
SNIPERATWORK100 3 years ago
If you wish to present a link to a site or a video or something that has covered these facts about the events that have data to back them (as some evidence from that day was destroyed) please correspond in your time. A response will be sufficient as I have set up my account to alert me by email when I get responses to comments. I look forward to your replies.
tetraxiphos 3 years ago
I present a couple sites and links in my Conspiracist Challenge Redux video. I suggest you do further research starting from those links so that you can correct the lies you have been told and stop perpetuating the myths of the so-called "Truth Movement"- especially things like "the steel was destroyed before it could be studied", and insinuations that scientists are stumped, here. These claims are so easily debunked that it's no mystery the conspiracist movement is dying.
totovader 3 years ago
Alrighty well... I went to the sites you suggested and they seemed to try and give their own opinion (honorably, they included a caution that stated they may be a bit off considering their lack of knowledge in the fields of research to which these matters pertain) and the opinion of one 'expert' whom I couldn't find after doing normal searches online. What I meant was a consensus on the particular mechanics of the collapses. Not more random speculation by people who THINK they have it right.
tetraxiphos 3 years ago
What you call "speculation" is- in fact- scientific inquiry. Just because you don't like the general consensus doesn't mean you get to pretend like it isn't there.
totovader 3 years ago
Dr. W. Gene Corley is the man cited as saying the scraps were taken to scrap yards and then perused by investigators with 'full access'. He is the man in charge of the first investigation co-headed by FEMA that produced the 'pancake-by-truss-failure' scenario. NIST in the next two years would conclude an investigation that would oppose this entirely. I'm saying that there is room for more investigation from open minded folks. I'm looking for evidence not more conjecture.
tetraxiphos 3 years ago
Notice how you haven't refuted anything, here. Your claims were addressed and your only response is to blurt out information and pretend it's pertinent.
The evidence is easily obtainable- you just need to do a little bit of research.
totovader 3 years ago
The fact that two differing reports come out from the two institutions that set out to investigate them is rather suspect in my opinion.
tetraxiphos 3 years ago
Two differing reports? "Differing" in what way- in what timespan- based on what evidence?
The only reason you could possibly find that suspect is if you had not read these reports, and had little or no understanding of basic scientific principles.
totovader 3 years ago
The evidence isn't so easily obtainable is it, though? Honest researchers are still having difficulty with the official stories (both of them). I'm not saying the government blew up the buildings, but there are things no one can explain about those events. Including the two sites you mentioned. Again, sorry for the number of posts. If it's bothering for you just tell me and I'll stop and go away. No need to continue this discussion if you're going to take offense start calling me names.
tetraxiphos 3 years ago
No, like I said before- you just need to do a little bit of research.
Name one thing that is not- as you say- explainable, and then you can provide your theory and its supporting evidence and then explain why it's a conspiracy.
totovader 3 years ago
Who said it was a conspiracy? If I was up to taking your silly 'challenge' I'd have responded in an appropriate manner from the start.
tetraxiphos 3 years ago
Well, this is your last warning to do so.
totovader 3 years ago
You've dodged just about every question I've posed.
Are you even going to support even one statement you've made or is this just more of your dancing routine?
totovader 3 years ago
What seems strange to me is that an accurate model for the identical collapses of the two structures cannot be settled upon by those that contend it fell from the structural and thermal damage. Pancake, Truss, what have you. Certainly it is rare for steel-framed, concrete buildings to collapse in exactly the same fashion after two to three hours of burning at its very top. An event like this should have been looked into and studied. The remains, however, were gathered and recycled in Jersey.
tetraxiphos 3 years ago
You're just plain wrong on all fronts: an "accurate model" (which is quite an ambiguous statement) was certainly settled upon. The idea that there's some major disagreement between a "pancake or truss" collapse is simply untrue. It's rare- even unheard of- for steel-framed truss construction buildings to be hit by planes in a suicidal attack, so the fact that it's rare that they fall is the result of 2 out of 2 cases of it happening.
The steel and the collapse were studied extensively.
totovader 3 years ago
You don't have the credentials or the references to call me 'just plain wrong'. Anything you come up with is just your views on the expert you've decided to place your trust in. I'm sure you've read the FEMA report, right? "Because the ...impacts into the two buildings...are insufficient to cause collapse without fire..." Then the glue that holds this together: the truss theory, is called into question by a later investigation. Don't YOU want to know the truth?
tetraxiphos 3 years ago
Typical ad hominem from a hypocrite- terrified of the facts. I have plenty of information- I've done the research- I know what I'm talking about. If you had the same background you wouldn't need to pretend that my "credentials and references" are relevant: you would simply address the facts. Instead you pretend like there is no scientific consensus, and it just matters what "expert" you believe... as if there's some ambiguous middle ground that has nothing to do with the facts.
totovader 3 years ago
geeezzzuuuuss guys what a waste of time. cant u get a life or something instead of posting childish personal debates on here.
quadcatfly 3 years ago
What an ironic comment...
totovader 3 years ago
lol, he said you are trying to make us look like a bunch of idiots...
HEY fat guy in blue shirt, you make yourself look like a fucking idiot... I hope he leaves this video up forever so that the entire world will know untill you die that you are most definately a FUCKING IDIOT.
gtq838 3 years ago
PWNED!!!1!!
philbiker3 3 years ago
Don't CDs usually happen at the base as well? The "free fall" actually occured around the area the planes went in as the steel supports weakened (not melted) and the building began to buckle.
sleonardelli 3 years ago
While I don't believe the video shown of a plane flying into the Pentagon is good because the video is crap, I do believe the damage to the Pentagon is sufficient to be caused by an airliner considering the impact could have caused the wings/horizontal stabilizers to collapse inward. The fact there's no better video of a plane into the Pentagon is because no one was out there w/their video cameras (perhaps security at the Pentagon) as were at the WTC. The security videos are too far away.
sleonardelli 3 years ago
You start the timers a full 10 seconds before the fall. Nice try. Cheap trick but nice try.
Iggynotpop 3 years ago
That's CLEARLY a lie. If anything I'm starting the timer too late since I went by the time that the commander HEARD the building start to fall- and sound travels relatively slow. My timing in the video is conservative- you simply cannot argue with that.
totovader 3 years ago
Totovader,your "facts" are not correct. What is your source for 95 % of the plane wreckage found?
Iggynotpop 3 years ago
You cannot tell me my facts are correct- and then pretend that you don't even know the source. The source is the recovery teams for the Flight 93 crash site. If you want to claim I'm wrong- you're going to have to do a lot more than just ask stupid questions, though.
totovader 3 years ago
now. im not saying i exactly knew who did this. im not taking one side or antoher. but there is more evidence against our government than who we call, "al qaeda" yes we did give them that name in the 90s. i can see the point you are trying to make. its a good point. but i dont see myself ever beliving it. im not trying to start stuff im just applying the use of my 1st ammendment.
cmerrill92 3 years ago
In fact, you aren't saying anything at all.
The "use" of the 1st Amendment does not mean you can ABANDON using your mind. Yes, I recommend you don't start shit, because your lie claiming that you have evidence will very quickly be debunked.
totovader 3 years ago
dude... you just want to show your support for republicans. ill give you tht you really back them up but seriously.. 1. your freefall parts were wrong. after the building collapsed there was an after shock which spread everything out. your extra 8 or 9 seconds is the sound off debris. 2. with how everything has gone with bush and everyone in his cabinet i wouldnt doubt that they did this. they certainly have the power. america has a problem with others having nuclear weapons when we have themost
cmerrill92 3 years ago
I'm not sure why you think I'm "backing up Republicans" but apparently all you can do is repeat what you're told to repeat- and hating Republicans is your parties main agenda. 1) Makes no sense at all, and is contradicted by the evidence. 2) I don't give a shit. I'm not a Bush supporter, and that has absolutely nothing to do with this video.
totovader 3 years ago
thanks again toto, they are resorting to excluding comments on their blogs that contradict their claims, so they are clearly rattled. But obvious evedence aside, dont the understand that in order to conduct a demo, you have to pull off the drywalls to expose the steel under everyones noses? Dont they understand the sounds a demo makes? Dont the understand the evidence of a demo would be obvious? Dont the understand how many agencies and people who have to be in on the plan to make it happen?
Shamrock3939 3 years ago
You know totvader I've been looking at your comments and arguments here. I'd like to be able to call them out as easilty as you do, and I also have seen that in every video that these assholes repeat the same tactics and regurgitate the same articles.
fatefinger 3 years ago
/watch?v=VFl4nOoCH7A
ozelot 3 years ago
ozelot - Don't spam my videos.
You can't even begin to address the facts presented here. All you do is repeat what you're told to repeat- you can't think for yourself.
totovader 3 years ago
Ron Paul is the only candidate not apart of CFR(Counsil on Foreign Relation) lol now thats enough said, if you have any idea about the history of the world(last 100years come on o_O)
Anyways the fact you make a video attacking someone, proves have weak willed you are and cannot prove otherwise, much like the guy you attack in this video, you both idiots xD
Man i dont even both wasting time on you low-lives anymore, enjoy my music and favs exposing the government as being murderous bastards.
Thornesss 3 years ago
Finally someone gets it. What's this dumbasse's utube account?
sgthobbes2 3 years ago
It was arachnodauthi- but he canceled it some time ago.
totovader 3 years ago
ha ha ha, wat a baby. Real Good job! Do you have AIM or something like that? I'd really like to talk to you!
sgthobbes2 3 years ago
lakemchalicer - I have warned you far too many times about spamming. Since you do not seem to grasp this concept and have now decided to just repost your comments over and over, I have removed the reposts and suspended you for a period of 3 days. At the conclusion of those 3 days, I expect a clear, well-thought, and well-supported refutation of this video.
I won't hold my breath, though.
totovader 3 years ago
The real conspiracy is the official story as there is no evidence hence it is a theory -
Watch the RUSSO INTERVIEW and debunk that. The truth is begining to take hold the ridicule used by the 'debunkers' is begining to make them loOk VERY SILLY INDEED. THE DESPERATION of the goverment and the bankers will result in desperate measures - say bye bye (or rather sell sell) to the US Dollar. I expect another attack worse than 911 AND MARTIAL LAW and attack on Iran and draft - WILL YOU DEBUNK THAT
lakemchalicer 3 years ago
Not only are you wrong on the facts- you can't even get your definitions right. Add to that the fact that you haven't even presented an argument- all you are doing is spamming various conspiracy theory titles and expecting that to save you from your own incompetence.
No more spamming. Either address the video, provide an answer to my Challenge, or move on.
totovader 3 years ago
wake up america stop wasting your time watching videos time is drawing close - they knew the 911 thing only has to hold the shit untill 911 part two and martial law bio data cards FEMA camps the Iran attack and the draft. stop watching silly videos and act before your dollar is dead and replaced with the nafta amero. by the way this video can not even debunk or ridicule a weak 'truther'.
lakemchalicer 3 years ago
"By the way" your little spamming episode doesn't even address anything presented in this video.
Apparently, you can't think for yourself- instead you just repeat what you're told to repeat. Go do it somewhere else.
totovader 3 years ago
as I have said the 'official' story is unable to 'debunk' even the weakest person armed with the limited knowledge that is the truth - THE OFFICIAL STORY DOES NOT STAND UP NOT EVEN ON SUCH A LEVEL -All you have is RIDICULE and that is begining to make the 'debunkers' look VERY SILLY INDEED. Watch the RUSSO interviews and Film Freedom tyo Facism - how do you 'debunk' that - the facade is begining to fall so phase two of the dollar collapse will be brought forward even so 'HoldingBackTheTide'????
lakemchalicer 3 years ago
You talk an awful lot for someone who cannot back up a single claim.
totovader 3 years ago
need I say more.
Bye
Good luck.
lakemchalicer 3 years ago
Yes, there's a whole hell of a lot you could be saying. Instead of actually backing up a single claim, you're just blabbering on.
Good riddance. Spammers like you never amount to anything useful.
totovader 3 years ago
lol. ok.
As your so fantastic at debunking why not watch the 'Aaron Russo Architecture Of A Prison Planet' interview its on my channel or you tube it.
I look forward to your debunk response to this - I really do. 9 11 is such a joke its boring to me I can not be bothered to waste time argueing compartmentalised points that prove nothing - step back and look at the bigger picture - thats what people are starting to do and no one not even you can debunk it with credibility. good luck.
lakemchalicer 3 years ago
You can't waste time "argueing compartmentalised points" [sic] but you want me to watch one of your videos and debunk it for you?
You can't even provide a shred of evidence for your claims. You can't back up a single thing you have said and you want me to waste my time talking to a brick wall?
totovader 3 years ago
No evidence will convince you- you are not interested in the facts. There is NO REASON for me to waste ANY time on you at all. Back up a SINGLE claim you have made and I will reconsider.
totovader 3 years ago
you are obviously unable to grasp the truth or reality - as I said above the official story can not even debunk a weak truther armed with limited facts of the truth this vid fails to even do that which shows more just how wacky and insulting the official story is. People need to now stop wasting time with all this stpid arguement thats all that is left for the official story is to create distract from the real point (REVOLT AND IMPEACH) create frustration and ridicule.
lakemchalicer 3 years ago
You are obviously threatened by this video and feel the need to go on and on and on about nonsense thinking that it will save you from your lack of an argument. It won't.
Try posting something relevant.
totovader 3 years ago
lol toto, you disabled rating for your comments! thats classy.
idavid24 3 years ago
No, I didn't.
Not sure what that has to do with being classy or not, anyway- but it's clear that you're going to continue to dodge the questions by spamming.
I wonder how you think that makes you an honest person...
totovader 3 years ago
You are so stupid. You can't even speak properly.
aardvarktheanteater 4 years ago
Not sure who you're talking to...
totovader 4 years ago
Im talking to you. You sounded like a stuttering fool and your video was pretty much pointless and proved hardly anything.
aardvarktheanteater 4 years ago
Do you realize that it's not me in the video...
"Pretty much pointless" and "proved hardly anything" are both statements that are pretty telling: you have no counter-argument, you just think that calling people "stupid" and "fool" is good enough.
totovader 4 years ago
Well seeing my comments against this video and knowing that you cast this video on your channel already shows what i think of you.
aardvarktheanteater 4 years ago
That made no sense at all.
Am I supposed to care what you think of me? You can't even seem to get it straight yourself...
totovader 4 years ago
How much simpler do you want me to get? I just said that i thought the person who spoke in the video was a blabbering idiot. Originally i thought it was you in the video, but it turned out it wasn't. So basically i called you a stupid idiot for casting this video on your channel and agreeing with this guy in the video. Is that simple enough to understand?
aardvarktheanteater 4 years ago
Did you even watch the video?
Where in the hell do I agree with the guy in the video? Again, you aren't making any sense.
totovader 4 years ago
"Why is this insufficent?" - because there's no 757, you fucking idiot.
ImyManz99 4 years ago
Clearly, you're a bright one... I've already gone over why expecting a clear picture of a 757 is irrational, but perhaps you can explain what it IS, instead...
totovader 4 years ago
The skeptic remarked: There is no "adequate" picture or footage of a plane flying into the pentagon. TRUE or FALSE? You follow up with that horrendous 5-framer that everybody's seen which you at the same time admit: "expecting a clear picture of a 757 is irrational". Good job on proving his point and debunking nobody except yourself.
ImyManz99 4 years ago
I'm not sure why you think that proves his point. My point was that it's irrational to expect a clear picture- I then show what is available and ask why it's insufficient... your response was "it doesn't show a plane" which is just as irrational as when I first pointed it out. Are you capable of answering the question or not?
totovader 4 years ago
what i wonder is that if a missile did hit the pentagon then how did the 5 lightpoles come down. plus i have had no debate on the pentagon pics i sent out. Now someone will debate me out of spite
Obelisk2290 4 years ago
No adequate picture ??? perhaps , but there are hundreds of eyewtinesses ......... or is that NOT good enough for you ?????? It would be in a court of law
kaz00you 4 years ago
Ah! - So there are no "adequate pictures" afterall, it's good that you admit it. You've been reduced to your so-called eye witnesses (more like news media personnel) who are worth jack shit. Mike Walter from USAToday says he saw the passengers INSIDE the bloody plane as it flew 500mph+ - sure buddy. I'm glad that liar gets harrassed by skeptics and researchers all the time, I would gladly have him testify under oath.
ImyManz99 4 years ago
Number of people who saw airliner hit Pentagon = Hundreds
Number of people who saw missile hit Pentagon= ZEROOOOOOOOOO
kaz00you 4 years ago 2
He represents the so-called "Truth Movement" well.
totovader 4 years ago
That video doesn't even show a plane hitting, all it shows is the pentagon blowing up.
Why are over 80 cctv tapes witheld by the FBI? If i saw them, then i would believe it, and that is what he is on about. Your twisting his words to make him sound foolish.
swanseaboy 4 years ago
THESE tapes, plus 2 more (total of 4) were "withheld" by the FBI. Now that they're released and DO NOT show a missile- how do you think these "80 tapes" (which we don't even know really exist) actually show something sinister?
He sounds foolish on his own- I didn't have to twist anything.
totovader 4 years ago
Well if they don't show anything sinister(who mentioned a missile by the way?) why don't they give them to the public?
swanseaboy 4 years ago
Do you have security clearance to see every single tape and angle from the Pentagon?
I don't. And being a conspiracy theorist doesn't suddenly grant you that security clearance. We have the tapes from that ANGLE- we have OTHER ANGLES. No missile. Just a plane. A plane filled with PEOPLE, people whose remains were RECOVERED and POSITIVELY IDENTIFIED.
totovader 4 years ago
Freedom of information act? Heard of it? Why would anyone need security clearance to see tapes, they should be able to get them for nothing.
swanseaboy 4 years ago
FROM THE PENTAGON?
Are you even slightly aware of what the Pentagon is? You want to see every single security tape from the Pentagon (again, assuming they exist)- that's not at all reasonable.
Have you filed an FOIA request? Do you WANT to know the truth, or are you happy being a conspiracist?
totovader 4 years ago
Is this all you're going to do- by the way? Jump from video to video and IGNORE the one I keep telling you to answer to?
If so, stop wasting my time. I've asked for evidence- I've asked for the "questions" you keep referring to... and you have nothing.
totovader 4 years ago
I cannot post links on youtube, you know that. So stop asking for evidence and links that i cannot supply on here.
I've told you a couple of questions which haven't been answered properly, there are hundreds of others, but i only have 500 letters for each box, so it isn't big enough.
swanseaboy 4 years ago
I'm asking you for evidence- you don't need to "link" to anything.
You have not given me any questions which have not been answered- you said "the Commission Report" and claimed there were omissions which only showed you DON'T UNDERSTAND what the Commission was tasked with.
totovader 4 years ago
The commision was tasked with finding out what happened on 9/11, i completely understand.
swanseaboy 4 years ago 2
The causes and the failures which led to the attack- not the reasons buildings fall down.
For that you have to look to the NIST report. AGAIN- do you have ANY evidence contradicting the findings of the NIST report, or do you just REPEAT WHAT YOU'RE TOLD TO REPEAT?
totovader 4 years ago
I haven't been told to repeat anything.
There are alot of things which leave alot of questions to be asked, including the nist report, and evidence to the contrary of what it says.
There needs to be an inquiry into it in full from an independant source.
swanseaboy 4 years ago 2
Then again- what evidence do you have contradicting the findings of the NIST report?
You keep claiming you can think for yourself- but I'll I've seen you do is avoid the Challenge and pretend that you have evidence which you won't even mention.
totovader 4 years ago
totovader-Well done! Thanks!
scorchxd 4 years ago
The fat guy makes good points! And every time you timed these buildings EXPLODING the beginning of the collapse are bombs going off BEFORE they came down. Slick but I need more!
PATMAN0910 4 years ago
Sure you do... sure you do...
totovader 4 years ago
The sound of explosives is a sharp percussive sound that is patently obvious.
You could try to squirm out of it by positing tens of thousands of tiny charges rigged to explode at random intervals to avoid that unfortunate fact. But this leads to an impossibly large conspiracy and you still could not use explosives anywhere near the perimeter columns.
soylentgreenb 4 years ago
Omnidimensional - I warned you about spamming several times. Your comments have been removed and you have been permanently banned. You had previously been suspended TWICE for this same nonsense and you just could not help yourself. Apparently, you can't think for yourself, either- because you are using this tirade to avoid the Challenge and the questions I had presented to you.
totovader 4 years ago
This is one of the most beautifully-documented shellackings I have ever witnessed. Especially since "arachnodauthi" pretty-much represents all truthdorks everywhere.
Hats off to you.
falconApoda 4 years ago
If you're talking about totovader being a flagellant, then you are correct. Otherwise you're just deluded. You think he's "debunked" someone just because he ends up blocking them eventually? I don't think there's been a complete conversation on this video.
Do some real research and look into Col. Schaffer, Robert Baer, Sibel Edmonds, Amle Danger, Mahmoud Ahmed, ISI, and all the foreign intelligence on the hijackers that was ignored.
Omnidimensional 4 years ago
And you think you're victorious because you can dodge the question long enough and create such a shit storm of spamming that you can get blocked?
The FACT that I gave you several chances to answer ONE QUESTION shows that it's on you- bud. You failed to make your case- you failed to defend your position.
totovader 4 years ago
I thought I was friends with most of the major debunkers. How did I miss your videos until today? humm probably some kind of illuminatti mind control device :)
arkgunslinger 4 years ago
:) You a member of the JREF forums? That's where most of us congregate.
totovader 4 years ago
Not yet I read the threads there though. We are both members of the "9-11-01 conspiracy theorists debunkers" YT group.
arkgunslinger 4 years ago
I don't even care about this crap, but I like how this video was done. 5 stars :D
ShawnD1 4 years ago
Well Done... these bush hating ignorant mother fuckers need to be held accountable for their bullshit theories and actions.
Tophlang 4 years ago
Omnidimensional - I know you're familiar with the Challenge because you've avoided it before. You have already been suspended, but since I know you're eager to enter the real world- I'll give you a week to come up with an answer this time, no more dodging the question. You've been suspended for one week.
totovader 4 years ago
onegus - You obviously need some time to come up with an answer. Take some time to cool off, think about it real hard- consult a friend if you need to. In 3 days, you can come back and provide an answer to my Challenge. You have been suspended for 3 days.
totovader 4 years ago
The same goes for you onegus - I addressed your claims and provided the evidence necessary to debunk them. YOU HAVE NO COUNTER, so instead you're throwing a fit. You need to accept the fact that you were wrong. Either address my Challenge or move on. No more dodging the issue.
totovader 4 years ago
blah blah blah... You are wrong from the beginning to the end, and you "Challenge" is just a disgusting game. Provide the evidence to justify 6,7 second collaps without breaking Newton laws, clown. WTC7 IS THE UNDEBUNKABLE SMOKING GUN that will throw denier bastards like you in the garbages of History !
onegus 4 years ago
Like I said- if my Challenge is "disgusting" (whatever that means) then you should be able to satisfy it easily enough. You KNOW it was not a 6 second collapse, and you KNOW that the videos I've ALREADY provided debunk your claims about 7. You have to avoid THINKING and EVIDENCE in order to believe your nonsense.
totovader 4 years ago
At least you admit that your assertions about every other incident during 911 are bunk.
CTr's are so silly.
jizzmonger 4 years ago
Omnidimensional - I'm not going to warn you again. I've already addressed and debunked your claims. You need to either address my Challenge or move on. You cannot continue to pretend like your position is solid if you can't even be bothered to THINK for yourself.
totovader 4 years ago
What's with this, "warning" nonsense? You post this video up here, supposedly for debate, you LIMIT the debate to its most asinine aspects, trying to FORCE someone to accept your erroneous structure of beliefs, and then block them when they refuse.
Omnidimensional 4 years ago
I already explained this in the Challenge video: it's a waste of my time to debunk all of these lies that you perpetrate because all you do is ignore the rebuttal and just move right on to the next lie. The problem is your INABILITY TO CRITICALLY THINK, not the facts.
totovader 4 years ago
If you were satisfying mine or ANYONE else's criteria, then we wouldn't have any possible way of continuing to argue with you. All you are doing here is over-asserting your opinion. I don't do opinions, which is why I don't like arguing about the buildings. EITHER WAY YOU CHOOSE TO BELIEVE IT'S CONJECTURE. It's a fact there were many explosions; all we can do is GUESS at what caused them.
Omnidimensional 4 years ago
Buildings are not opinions. Facts are not opinions. People who cannot argue the facts because they know they are wrong just call everything an opinion to avoid it.
totovader 4 years ago
Thanx totovader for helping spreading the Truth on 9/11 !! Your omnipresence in the comments keeps the thread alive, and expose clearly the disinformation methods used by science & truth deniers like you and your debunkers fellows... 9/11 is not a question of patriotism or conspiracy, 9/11 is a question of basic physics that's why the Movement will never stop growing. Thanx again, and when the Truth will break out, just say that you were an undercover truther ! ;-)
onegus 4 years ago
You ignored the evidence, made claims you were unable to support- and ran away from the rebuttal to the lies you perpetrated. When you say that there's "disinformation methods", YOU'RE DEMONSTRATING THEM. You ignore the facts and pretend the evidence doesn't exist. You're wrong- and now you know it.
totovader 4 years ago
Omnidimensional - No more spamming, you need to respond to the Challenge or move on. I'm not going to debunk your claims all over again just because you can't accept the facts. I've already responded to your lies, and you had no rebuttal- apparently all you can do is repeat them like you're told to do. Instead, let's see if you can THINK FOR YOURSELF and respond to my Challenge.
totovader 4 years ago
"Spamming." You've never debunked ANYTHING, and you never will. I've not told a SINGLE lie here. I responded to your challenge loooong time ago. FIRST THING I POSTED? We've been through this. I did exactly as you asked, you were SUPPOSED to be open for questions, but you LIED. YOU ARE THE LIAR HERE.
Acknowledge the fact that Bin Laden is not wanted by the FBI for 911, acknowledge Able Danger, Robert Baer, Sibel Edmonds, and foreign intel. Your existence here is a denial of reality.
Omnidimensional 4 years ago
Clearly, you're wrong. You just cup your ears and scream "you aren't debunking, you aren't debunking" hoping the FACTS will go away.
You did not do as I asked- you are HERE doing EXACTLY what I warned AGAINST in that video: dogpiling claims and refusing to respond to the evidence. When you answer the Challenge- you will have my full attention.
totovader 4 years ago
Who cares if I, "dogpile" claims? Can you debunk any of them? Can you prove me wrong? I think not which is why YOU dodge, run away and block people from commenting anymore.
Omnidimensional 4 years ago
Yes, and I DO debunk them- but the fact that you need to dogpile claims INSTEAD of recognizing what your errors are shows just how biased and unscientific you are. That's exactly what I was cautioning against in my video. And now all you can do is repeat what you're told to repeat, you can't even think for yourself. That doesn't bother you at all?
totovader 4 years ago
I am thinking for myself. I was told on the news that a paper passport carried by one of the terrorists, was propelled out of the explosion of one of the planes impacting the WTC, and it landed unscathed a few blocks away, to be discovered by the FBI. I choose not to believe this nonsense.
You haven't debunked a single one of my actual CLAIMS, because you refuse to talk about my CLAIMS until I decide to agree with you that it was definitely a plane that hit the Pentagon.
Omnidimensional 4 years ago
I never said anything about you having to say anything about planes. I said that you need to stop dogpiling these claims and ignoring the evidence by addressing my Challenge. You have obviously put a lot of energy into doing that which shows that your bias and unscientific position is based entirely on what you are TOLD to say- you cannot THINK FOR YOURSELF.
totovader 4 years ago
"Conjecture is the messiah of their religion."
Apparently so is yours darthrazorback.
LOL Totovader .. you're still going!
xD4NNOx 4 years ago
totovader knows NOTHING more than the SHILL, Davin Coburn, or anyone else, "debunking":
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ht tp://ww w.youtube. com/watch?v=pb49MfDrwOo
totovader claimed not to even be aware of classified pictures of WTC 7. Why can't we see the pictures, or video of a plane colliding with the Pentagon?
Omnidimensional 4 years ago
You're just going to repeat your lies, again?
CLICK ON MY NAME, GO TO MY FRONT PAGE, WATCH THE VIDEOS OF WTC7. THERE IS NOTHING "CLASSIFIED" ABOUT THESE PICTURES, moron.
totovader 4 years ago