HOAX***Manchester UFO May 2010 from Two Angles***HOAX

[alokinzna]

I can see with my bare eyes that the "ship" is not twitching together with the rest of the video ...

Seriously , theres no need for analysis or some other shit , you can SEE IT with your BARE EYES .

[tactrdfreak]

A complete and total hoax and if you can't see why then get some coke bottles, cut the bottoms out and use them for lenses. lol

[phorptical]

As I have no idea where the footage comes from, I encourage any and all debate about the video, and don't worry, I won't take anything personally as I am not making any claims by posting this video.

[martinwettig]

bad motion tracking, even worse feeling for dimensions. ridiculous...

[phorptical]

@martinwettig elaborate?

[theemokje]

ehm... why isnt there more coverage from the helicopter? I wouldn't have stopt. Even though it looks like the craft is there it could yust as easely be cgi. I think its fake. Dont get me wrong, I wish it was real but video is no prove nowadays and this just feels off.

[Montreal1953]

★★★★★ SOMETHING IS WRONG...

Two camera angles showing the same object...

1. When viewed from the ground (from the car), the object doesn't move as it was going at the same speed the car is going...

2. When view from the helicopter, the object should be bigger, but it remains static and smaller... The view from the helicopter doesn't show us any improvement - The object and the helicopter fly at the same speed too...

Yes, something is wrong...

[alansdalek]

@Montreal1953 The Craft is not moving in either of the clips, When viewd from the ground the Craft looks bigger because the camera is looking up at a triangle..The footage from the Helicopter is showing the Craft from Nearly side on which is why it looks smaller in the Helicopter footage, I dont see anything wrong with either of the clips, i just think its lucky that 2 people took the time to film both the clips and then put them on the Internet, you can check both the filming locations on GE

[Montreal1953]

@alansdalek ★★★★★ SOMETHING IS WRONG

COMPUTER-GENERATED IMAGERY (CGI) HOAX

Don't take it personally, but I know the video comes from other sources. It is a hoax found in youtube...

[phorptical]

@Montreal1953 Don't worry, I have no personal stake in this. I will not take any offense to comments, I am just posting a video. Explain you theory though, if you don't mind. Why (specifically) do you believe it's a hoax? Again, I don't have a personal viewpoint, but I would like to hear your theory. I will mark any and all videos as HOAXES if viewers adequately and rationally convince me something is a hoax

[Montreal1953]

@phorptical (Part. 1)

COMPUTER-GENERATED IMAGERY (CGI) HOAX

I downloaded the video...

Extremely low Speed: 00.03x

- At 00:36, I zoomed in the frame and the so-called UFO is masking one of the two pole signs on the highway...

- Same thing at 0:41, the object hides the handrail...

- At 0:54, the object disintegrates in the thin video line signal, before it even reaches and passes over the top of the next building... This is a wise object transition from the Hoaxer...

[phorptical]

@Montreal1953 As far as the brightness near the end f the video, the effect is caused by automatic brightness correction by the camera as it attempts to focus on the ground. This is a particularly important feature of cameras mounted on aircraft. As far as the evidence you cite at 00:36 and 0:41 I cannot find any conclusive evidence of your claims. At time 0:54 the scrambled screen effect was added by me as a transition between the two videos.

[Montreal1953]

@phorptical

COMPUTER-GENERATED IMAGERY (CGI) HOAX

You stated :

"I have no personal stake in this. I will not take any offense to comments, I am just posting a video."

And now, you write :

"At time 0:54 the scrambled screen effect was added by me as a transition between the two videos."

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Well, you are not just posting videos. We learn you added the transition between the two videos...

So, you seems now very concerned...

[phorptical]

@Montreal1953 Really? See when one finds two videos and wants to show both videos in one video one makes something like a slide show. In between the two videos a transition is added. Surely you are aware of this... VIDEO - TRANSITION - VIDEO. The videos are not mine i came across the videos on YouTube, but I am not going to label any video I come across as a hoax based on claims that cannot be substantiated.

[Montreal1953]

@phorptical

COMPUTER-GENERATED IMAGERY (CGI) HOAX

You asked me to explain why I believe this is a HOAX.

I did it adequately and rationally, I told you how you could do it and see for yourself. But you don't even dare to follow the steps I showed you as an IRREFUTABLE PROOF...

Now, re-read me, I have never asked you to label this, as a HOAX... But as a youtuber, I openly gave my opinion and you requested the "why"...

[phorptical]

@Montreal1953 I appreciate the "why" explanation. I am not saying you are wrong, I am just saying I can't see the anomalies you are talking about. And I did look at the specific portions of the video you are referring to. I wish I had a better program to use to analyze videos. Maybe you are more of a forensic expert when it comes to videos that I, lol. But I do appreciate any and all debate! Did you see the recent video from STS 132? If so, what's your take on it?

[edson333]

@Montreal1953 i dont think so, watch 0:43, that is very dificult to do in a 3d software

[Montreal1953]

@edson333 ★★★★★ HOAXES & FEEBLE MINDS

It was a project for university... Here is the Proof :

- Manchester UFO hoax.

watch?v=xNRFyzAMEEI

[theInterzone]

@Montreal1953 ... @Montreal1953 ...

That's not a proof, that's an unsubstantiated claim.

What project was that? What university? Were there any other people involved in the project? What did the fellow students think about the project? Can we see a "making of" it, or is Pimmjimm's "i did it!" claim all you have to offer in terms of proof?

[Montreal1953]

@theInterzone

★★★★★ HOAXES & FEEBLE MINDS

I know, you want to believe, but I am not the author of the Hoax...

Send all questions, comments and hate mail to: BlackHelicopters85@gmail.com. Thanks!

- Manchester UFO hoax.

watch?v=xNRFyzAMEEI

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[Montreal1953]

@phorptical (Part. 2)

COMPUTER-GENERATED IMAGERY (CGI) HOAX

Now the helicopter:

- At 01:15, the Hoaxer first increases the brightness of the clouds, and in a blink of the next eyed-frame, the magic of the computer-generated image made the image disappeared...

There is no "theory", but facts, this is a HOAX...

[alansdalek]

@Montreal1953 Its nothing Personal but i really do think you are wrong on this occasion, the two pieces of footage tally up with the locations..would a hoaxer go to all that bother just to make sure that the 2 films could be linked..? and rent a helicopter to make it all the more convincing, i dont think so...i think what you have here is a very real object filmed from 2 locations by 2 different people at almost the same time..i would love more clips of this to turn up..

[Montreal1953]

@alansdalek ★★★★★ HOAXES & FEEBLE MINDS

I am not interested to talk about the motives of the Hoaxer, nor why he probably have more than one Youtube account.

See for yourself, and do all the steps I followed to easily prove the Hoax...

See my answers @phorptical (Part. 1 & 2) and so on...

PS. Usually, bad Hoaxes attract feeble and insecure minds...