Hey Frank. I think Kubrick still had those original 19 minutes that he cut from the "premiere" of the film, somewhere, in his archives. However, you, nor I are likely to see those cuts. They were extraneous, they really weren't needed and it's up to Christianne Kubrick to decide whether or not she ever wants to release those cuts. All in all, it doesn't make much of a difference that these cuts are gone from the film. There was nothing "lost" in them, as far as making the film any better.
Whoa! Wait a minute....I can appreciate the sewing together of these fantastic scenes but the audio isn't matched at all with what was going on in the film. It's a bit disorienting.
Quote Wiki: "Poole and Bowman discuss disconnecting HAL 9000, the ship's computer, after it mistakenly predicts that the AE-35 unit (an electronic unit in the ship's main antenna) has failed. They realize that HAL is capable of error, and privately discuss disconnecting him. They believe themselves to be out of HAL's hearing range, but the computer, which can read lips, learns of their plan and resolves to get rid of the threat.
Poole begins replacing the AE-35 unit. In an act resembling the human response of survival, HAL rams Poole with one of the ship's pods, severing his oxygen hose and killing him.
HAL then refuses to let Bowman return to the ship after his successfully intercepting and recovering Poole's body and spacesuit.
In the novel 3001: Poole's body is discovered after drifting in space for a millennium. Given Poole's exposure to vacuum (he was flash-frozen so his body was fully intact after 1,000 years), the advanced medical technology of the time is able to revive him Poole is brought back to life.
Poole must then contend with the trio of Monoliths that hold sway over our solar system, and what Bowman has become. He also marries a woman named Indra Wallace and has two children, Dawn and Martin.
@laSensacion1023 The scenes of Poole going out to put the AE-35 Unit back into place before he was murdered by HAL was cut after Kubrick screened the film for the first time in England. Kubrick cut out approximately 19 minutes of footage while enroute to New York on the Queen Mary, in a specially constructed suite on board the ship with an editing machine. There are approximately 4 sections that he cut. Email me if you want to know what else he cut after the first screening.
"my god it's full of stars" never happened in the movie 2001, but did in the book. Another big difference, the absence of Saturn in the movies, was explained by Clarke and Trumball the special effects supervisor, as for two reasons---the movie would be too long and, Trumball, despite his genius in special effects, was unable to depict Saturn's rings in a way that satisfied Kubrick, and especially Clarke. He did Saturn's rings a few years later in Silent Running. The rings were still weak.
Yeah, the book and the movie are miles apart. the 2010 book sort of continues from both 2001 book and movie.. cause Arthur C. Clarke wrote 2001 first, then rewrote parts of it together with kubrick to better suit film.. When arthur then wanted to do 2010 he had to compromise and .. explain some of what happened in the movie in the book 2010.. The part wher bowman says "my god.. it's full of stars" never actually happened in the book 2001.
In the fourth and final book by Arthur C. Clarke titled 3001: The Final Odyssey, the missing astronaut you see here, "Frank Poole" is recovered by advanced civilization. His memories are returned and he returns to Europa. I thought it was a good book. So...although Frank dies, he is returned to life exactly 1000 years later.
Although people can survive an explosive decompression of 1 atm to a vaccum for several seconds; the volume of Dave's body should inflate to about twice its size before he freezes.
Yes and no. Given time Dave's body would 'inflate,' as you put it (technically, it doesn't inflate, but I get it), but not right away. The human body is a little stronger than your average helium balloon. Next, he may eventually freeze (depends on exposure to sunlight--quite strong in space, even at that distance), but through the very SLOW process of radiative heat transfer; there is no air in space to 'take away' the heat. He would be fine for the few seconds he needs, as shown.
That's the best explanation that I've ever read. I've always wondered about explosive decompression in a vacuum.
There is only one incident that I know of, It occured in the diving bell of a norwegian oil rig in the early eighties. Because of a technical error the pressure wnt from 6 atm. to 1 in a fraction of a second. One of the divers exploded, and another was pushed through a small hole.
Is up to you to give a meaning to the movie, if you do not find anything does not mean that the movie makes no sense, says something about you and your philosophical background.
HAL was programmed to function in open trust as a science tool - there was something to hide (ie. lie) on this mission - this lie conflicted with an open and honest mind, or attempt at such for a machine mind 'AI' to hide and evade "truth" of mission (see Möbius loop) ... more explained in the movie 2010.
He was programed by the NSA with info about the monolith and the other in the moon and all secret stuff, but then ordered to not reveal it to crew but then to provide all info possible on them about the mission. This conflicted directly against HAL Design based on "Thruth first never false or non confirmed info" and it went nuts, first he tried to severe comunications, then killed the crew (almost) to avoid conflict (at that point HAL was "broken" allready)
It is really the greatest SF-Movie! I saw it at the age of 11 in 1968 in a big cinema in munich on a 30 meters screen. I will never forget that experience. Thanks for those wunderful excerpts!!
Hey Frank. I think Kubrick still had those original 19 minutes that he cut from the "premiere" of the film, somewhere, in his archives. However, you, nor I are likely to see those cuts. They were extraneous, they really weren't needed and it's up to Christianne Kubrick to decide whether or not she ever wants to release those cuts. All in all, it doesn't make much of a difference that these cuts are gone from the film. There was nothing "lost" in them, as far as making the film any better.
pacific707 2 months ago
Whoa! Wait a minute....I can appreciate the sewing together of these fantastic scenes but the audio isn't matched at all with what was going on in the film. It's a bit disorienting.
pacific707 10 months ago
@pacific707 Especially for those that haven't seen the film....
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pacific707 10 months ago
Poor HAL... "I can feel it"... "I can feel it"...
The stuggle with consciousness is beautiful.
invanorm 2 years ago 4
Poor Mr Poole, these scenes always made me cry in misery :(
kittypie070 2 years ago 4
Don't cry. Arthur C. Clarke had him "defrosted" in "3001".
spacecowboy5000 2 years ago 4
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Shawnruss 2 years ago
i first saw this movie when I was 10 years old, HAL used to freak me out. I love that voice he sounds so screepy.
ZkinandBonez 2 years ago 5
Frank Poole lives!!
smillar98 2 years ago
Quote Wiki: "Poole and Bowman discuss disconnecting HAL 9000, the ship's computer, after it mistakenly predicts that the AE-35 unit (an electronic unit in the ship's main antenna) has failed. They realize that HAL is capable of error, and privately discuss disconnecting him. They believe themselves to be out of HAL's hearing range, but the computer, which can read lips, learns of their plan and resolves to get rid of the threat.
MetalApe 2 years ago
Poole begins replacing the AE-35 unit. In an act resembling the human response of survival, HAL rams Poole with one of the ship's pods, severing his oxygen hose and killing him.
HAL then refuses to let Bowman return to the ship after his successfully intercepting and recovering Poole's body and spacesuit.
MetalApe 2 years ago
In the novel 3001: Poole's body is discovered after drifting in space for a millennium. Given Poole's exposure to vacuum (he was flash-frozen so his body was fully intact after 1,000 years), the advanced medical technology of the time is able to revive him Poole is brought back to life.
Poole must then contend with the trio of Monoliths that hold sway over our solar system, and what Bowman has become. He also marries a woman named Indra Wallace and has two children, Dawn and Martin.
MetalApe 2 years ago
does anyone know where to see the part that Poole goes out to fix the antenna or something can someone pleasee tell me soon
laSensacion1023 2 years ago
2001 A Space Odyssey - Space Sequences Tribute Part 2of4 at 4:44.
MetalApe 2 years ago
thanks
laSensacion1023 2 years ago
@laSensacion1023 The scenes of Poole going out to put the AE-35 Unit back into place before he was murdered by HAL was cut after Kubrick screened the film for the first time in England. Kubrick cut out approximately 19 minutes of footage while enroute to New York on the Queen Mary, in a specially constructed suite on board the ship with an editing machine. There are approximately 4 sections that he cut. Email me if you want to know what else he cut after the first screening.
pacific707 10 months ago
@pacific707 Didn't Kubrick destroy all the material that didn't made the first screening?
FrankSpijker 2 months ago
"my god it's full of stars" never happened in the movie 2001, but did in the book. Another big difference, the absence of Saturn in the movies, was explained by Clarke and Trumball the special effects supervisor, as for two reasons---the movie would be too long and, Trumball, despite his genius in special effects, was unable to depict Saturn's rings in a way that satisfied Kubrick, and especially Clarke. He did Saturn's rings a few years later in Silent Running. The rings were still weak.
pipecub83 2 years ago
wow, this is a lot different from the book..
just finished it...
Onigiri2393 3 years ago
Yeah, the book and the movie are miles apart. the 2010 book sort of continues from both 2001 book and movie.. cause Arthur C. Clarke wrote 2001 first, then rewrote parts of it together with kubrick to better suit film.. When arthur then wanted to do 2010 he had to compromise and .. explain some of what happened in the movie in the book 2010.. The part wher bowman says "my god.. it's full of stars" never actually happened in the book 2001.
ronnysoeberg 2 years ago
One of the many things this movie does right is the sound in space. Vacuum space means no sound.
And the only sounds you hear is the sound that the astronaut hears in his cockpit. No starwars lasersounds or outside propulsion noises.
tapijtklopper 3 years ago 4
I've never seen the whole movie from start to finish, it's about time I do.
I feel bad for the other astronaut that had to be abandoned for Dave to get back inside.
Even if he was already dead.
PHANTOMZ0NE 3 years ago
In the fourth and final book by Arthur C. Clarke titled 3001: The Final Odyssey, the missing astronaut you see here, "Frank Poole" is recovered by advanced civilization. His memories are returned and he returns to Europa. I thought it was a good book. So...although Frank dies, he is returned to life exactly 1000 years later.
canova1832 3 years ago
And there is that 1 thing at 5:05.
Although people can survive an explosive decompression of 1 atm to a vaccum for several seconds; the volume of Dave's body should inflate to about twice its size before he freezes.
PHANTOMZ0NE 3 years ago
Yes and no. Given time Dave's body would 'inflate,' as you put it (technically, it doesn't inflate, but I get it), but not right away. The human body is a little stronger than your average helium balloon. Next, he may eventually freeze (depends on exposure to sunlight--quite strong in space, even at that distance), but through the very SLOW process of radiative heat transfer; there is no air in space to 'take away' the heat. He would be fine for the few seconds he needs, as shown.
Steve99jp66 2 years ago
That's the best explanation that I've ever read. I've always wondered about explosive decompression in a vacuum.
There is only one incident that I know of, It occured in the diving bell of a norwegian oil rig in the early eighties. Because of a technical error the pressure wnt from 6 atm. to 1 in a fraction of a second. One of the divers exploded, and another was pushed through a small hole.
PHANTOMZ0NE 2 years ago 2
The music in "Beyond the infinite" scared the crap outa me.Its too bad that ppl will never understand the whole point of the movie
UnrealSlayer92 3 years ago
Is up to you to give a meaning to the movie, if you do not find anything does not mean that the movie makes no sense, says something about you and your philosophical background.
pepemark 3 years ago 2
wow ppl from 1968 thought we would hav flying cars at 2001 hmmmm i think ur wrong peeps lmao
and whats wrong with hal is he evil???
zadose 3 years ago 4
i wish 2010 was a quarter as good as 2001.
kubrick was really a brilliant film maker.
mfischer1 3 years ago 9
This movie is over 40 years old, amazing. April 2, 1968
pipecub83 3 years ago 9
It's already decades that I am watching this movie - and 2010 - every month! It is cheaper than a joint and I get stoned all the same!
throttlelever 4 years ago 2
HAL was programmed to function in open trust as a science tool - there was something to hide (ie. lie) on this mission - this lie conflicted with an open and honest mind, or attempt at such for a machine mind 'AI' to hide and evade "truth" of mission (see Möbius loop) ... more explained in the movie 2010.
Leonard0Melton 4 years ago
So the thing I never understood was, did HAL go nuts on its own, or did someone program it to off the crew?
bjdon99 4 years ago 2
On his own. According to "2010," the strain of keeping secrets from his crew drove him insane.
Moncynnes 4 years ago
hal got conflickn progrmng nd bcam confused,check duh movie2010for a explanation
denisdeepspace 3 years ago
SPOILER:
He was programed by the NSA with info about the monolith and the other in the moon and all secret stuff, but then ordered to not reveal it to crew but then to provide all info possible on them about the mission. This conflicted directly against HAL Design based on "Thruth first never false or non confirmed info" and it went nuts, first he tried to severe comunications, then killed the crew (almost) to avoid conflict (at that point HAL was "broken" allready)
sparrowlt 2 years ago
gawd this rules
arbjork 4 years ago 2
It is really the greatest SF-Movie! I saw it at the age of 11 in 1968 in a big cinema in munich on a 30 meters screen. I will never forget that experience. Thanks for those wunderful excerpts!!
2007jabez 4 years ago