Did they completely mess up Colonel Hal Moore's name?...The caption says Col. Hal Mohr, the person depicted by Mel Gibson in, "We Were Soldiers" was Col. Harold Moore. Colonel Harold Moore was the only Colonel on the ground at La Drang.
The movie was made from the book "We Were Soldiers Once... And Young". Which was written by Joe Galloway and Gen. Hal Moore about the battle in that valley. Rick Rescorla was on the cover of the book. He died in the twin tower attack helping many escape.
to hal moore's point of veiw to the movie it was exactly like what happend there and he also said "i have never seen a vietnam war movie that accurate as this one in my life" <<<somthing like that.
@ladymadonna the troops after the battle were walking to landing zone Albany and got caught in a l shaped ambush 150 cab were killed but all you here about is lz
@brickchruch I want to talk about Albany. My brother was killed there. I was 8 yrs old. 17NOV65 Larry Gwin's book "Baptism" is real. Albany was a cover-up and is to this day. My small rural west Tennessee will not acknowledge a real American hero but post signs of basketball teams and will sure give you a speeeding ticket. I will talk about Albany. Danny E. Carlton 2/7 17NOV65 Alpha Co 1st platoon. He is more than just a name on a wall.
"My wife had no real concept of where I had been, even though I had written every day. A new stress was in our relationship that is hard to describe.
... my wife's family barely acknowledged that I had ever been gone. Did they know I had just returned from war? If they did, they acted as though it didn't matter."
-Just read {The Vietnam conflict} I really hope if we have learned anything from having our troops fight over seas it would be to greet and reintegrate them into our heart/society.
@Orangebike666 I am glad you come home and share your empathy of HELL. I was eight when my brother was killed at Albany 17NOV65. Cover-up then and is to this day.
@ladymadonna0001 The quote was from a book I was reading, not from a personal experience. I just wanted to share that I found it sickening to hear about how some troops were greeted coming home from Vietnam.
great footage..those guys earned there paycheck on that trip..the horse has never been rode,the line has never been crossed, the yellow stands for itself
... and I might add, apes in the wild do the exact same thing (forming waring parties/controling territory). so by acting like a retarded nutcase violent white/black american youre literaly doing/being the exact same as your ape brethren in the jungles and forests of africa
deltapunk youre obviously an extremely emotional and brainwashed american. youre still young enough to think your government wouldnt lie to you. you still think there is a santa claus too Im sure. no nation fights for any other reason other than money or control of commodoties. control of territory = control of every commodity on that land. your politcal associations and alliances are merely the social tools needed to band up and fight to keep or maintain or take land
you guys watched that film we were young and soldiers from mel gibson? how accurate was the film compared to the real story? what about the 1986platoon ...that film was awesome
@PEDROCLASSIC WE WERE SOLDIERS was 75% accurate, 25% Hollywood: Gen Moore. Platoon was pure fiction but I think it was loosely based in the My Lai massacre.
@AccordGTR Yeah back then who cares about atrocity when you're a young Marine having just witnessed one of your buddies in your platoon maimed by a booby trap. besides it was hard to tell whos's who. VC, NVA, or simply VC sympathizers, you'd be full of rage all the time
@AccordGTR i thought the movie PLATOON was about the 25th inf. div fighting near cu chi. the MY lai massacre was a different incident. i think it was a company from the Americal division of the US army who were involved. not sure. i remember this story from the 80s. TIME magazine covered this story. horrible.
i remember this story from the 90s growing up where a platoon was nearly wiped out, no support, no security..they just walked through the NVA and was ambushed ....the very first major war in the vietnam ..... long live the 1st cav !!
the US military did NOT lose in vietnam. remember, Vietnam was all about RUBBER. in the 1800's France invaded/colonized vietnam. by 1960 Michellin(FR) had VAST rubber tree plantations growing there. US tiremakers depended on vietnam for raw rubber for their car tires. if vietnam "fell to the commies" the US auto industry would have been devastated.
the only reason USA pulled out of vietnam was US tiremakers struck deals with other rubber producing countries AND synthetic rubber was invented
All that killing suffering, misery, and death, for money. Shortsighted, not seeing the big picture, not aware God or the value of precious life. How many innocent children suffered for the evils of this horrible war. In the big picture God will punish all those who used their freewill to exploit others in this world. The bible is very clear about this. There is no hiding place from the father of creation.
@MrHarry46 You are such a fucking liar it wa snot about rubber stupid. France cololianized it suring the leftist era dn brought communsit stupidity to it that criminal and french agent/comintern ho and his french buddies colluded in destroying the VNQDD and mass mrudering 1 milion people causing 2 million to flee as refugees even whiel the borders were *closed* totalitarian soviet style
@rodcre8s Apocalypse Now was shot in the Phils. My friend who is Filipino Chris Castillejo played a US G.I. I liked the movie but for a Vietnam War movie, it was kinda ridiculous. I liked Full Metal Jacket which was at least more realistic since it was based on the Tet Offensive and Battle of Hue. I liked Platoon but it wasn't really based on any specific battle, was it? I think those early movies kinda made the war look ridiculous. Only WE WERE SOLDIERS made it look like it was glorious.
@globe255 ...there is actually a great movie about this very 4 day battle in the hills of the back woods vietnam and the courageous men who fought it.....it called: "we were soldiers"
@hoppy8199 Look for another Youtube video of Moore when he said, "Read the book it is 100% factual. But the movie is only 75% factual and 25% Hollywood." hahaha Most Hollywood war movies are just to sucker young people into thinking war is glorious and "Duty is Honor". But fact is, many wars are unjust and wastes young people's lives to die for US commercial and imperialistic interests.
@AccordGTR, Same as Communist propaganda & movies that extoll the 'glorius' struggle against anyone that isn't a communist & that causes the unnecessary deaths of many people. Mao killled up to ~30-million Chinese, Stalin rom a good 10-million to ~20-million or so Soviet citizens, Pol Pot maybe ~2 to ? million Cambodians, ethnic Vietnamese, etc. You are a simple wannabe commie that lives in the Phillipines & is a complete jackass.
@AccordGTR yes your correct on the suckering in young men and women into thinking war is just and glory is the way to go. yes most wars are just wasting young lives...i know hollywood and how they twist the truth for ratings but the movie still told the story....i served in the 1st Calvary Division thats where the old saying comes from..." the horse has never been rode, the line has never been crossed, and well the yellow stands for itself"...Moore was one of the greatest commanders ever
@hoppy8199 I commend you for your bravery and sense of duty, as well as your honesty for educating others out there. I never fought in any war but have had friends who served in Vietnam both from the Phils and US. Anyway yes Moore was a true pro cuz he valued the lives of the men under him. I wonder if the US has any more top-level officers like him? I suspect that his generation are way different than the younger officers of today. He had the guts to disobey an order from Westmoreland?
@globe255 platoon is a pretty terrible vietnam film, i am very into the vietnam war, to all those people watching this video i woud strongly recomend the book we were solders once... and young. written my hal moore himself, and the film we were soldiers, both good and informative about this battle in '65
I remember when i saw this on tv first time. Anyway the Vietnam war has gotten a kind of romantic spot- maybe because it is a well known war photographic/film and discussed. It was a special time. At the same time it was the hippie period/free sex and all that oh man......
I served regular army infantry from 1981 to 1984, I never met a piss ant high ranking NCO in any unit I was assigned to. All my seargents were combat veterans from Vietnam war. Infact one of my best buddies was the First Seargent for the company Grebe. Lots of shots of whiskey with TOP. TOW platoon CSC Company 2nd Battallion, 22nd Infantry mechanized 4th Division, United States Regular Army
@Scarecroweb The Americans never lost a major battle in Viet Nam. It was the pressure built up by the media which made it impossible for us to give the South Vietnamese the support they needed to resist the invaders from the north.
The troops who served in Viet Nam were among the best this country has ever sent to war. So why don't you go fuck yourself.
@museack You guys ought to quit blaming your own press and politicians. Maybe you prefer communism where there is no free press or elected officials? You Americans are funny, complain about anything and everything then turn around and say you are the best blah blah blah. Maybe you guys are the best in trash talking and blaming everybody else for the world's problems but yourselves. LOL
How were we invaders??? the N.V.A. invaded the south and killed innocent people.. We went in to help our South Vietnamese ally.. Thats not invading ok thats helping a friend...
@scarvasa No we didnt plus we invaded because North Vietnam was murdering innocent people in South Vietnam and they needed our help. We pulled out because of Nixon BEFORE the war was over.If we felt like it we could have nuked Vietnam.
The same ones who put us in Vietnam pulled us out. Those boys who were sent over there never got the respect that they deserved from their country. And not to mention our govt murdered our president. The one man that wanted to change things. There would have never been a Vietnam war if JFK would have not beend murdered. And it wouldnt have lasted as long if the Govt didnt murder Bobby too. So its up us. You the individual American citizen. We surround the Govt. They do not surround us.
Wake America and Take your country back! Put your Credit Cards down, leave your consumer goods at the door and start using your brains. Turn of the corporate media confusion, they are all tryants anyway! This is Revolution of the Mind, if that don't work than come take it from me Tryants. Give me liberity or give me death because he who stands for nothing, will fall for anything!
The reason we "lost" the Vietnam War is the lack of will shown by the US public. Same thing now is happening. The dumbest thing the terrorists could do is to attack the US homeland now and re-ignite public opinion. If they just wait a while the Pelosis and Harry Reeds will have us pull out with our tails between our legs.
We didn't lose, the Media lied and crushed us, so the people back home turned their backs on us Vets. Shame on u all. Welcome Home my Brothers & Sisters. Remember March 29th always now. It is Vietnam Veterans Day forever...
I made a mistake with my wording. The USA did lose some battles, the myth is the USA never lost any battle. FSB Ripcord is one such lost battle where the base had to be abandoned under heavy NVA fire. Battle of Ong Thanh is another example and there are videos on youtube showing the combat. The US however won all their major campigns (Search and Destroy missions)
i was with the U.S Army and U.S Marines in Falluja ( camp dogwood) in 2004, and like the man says, you Americans were a pleasure to work with, {one hard battle we won} good look to ya all,and great vid.. retired Black Watch Scottish Soldier...
You always see footage and stories about this part of the conflict but not the battle (massacre) at LZ Albany just 2 miles from LZ X-Ray. America only likes to tell the stories where they win.
Hardly a massacre. lol The US recieved approximately 155 or so dead while the NVA were in the range of between 1500-1900 dead. I will take those numbers any day. And any commander worth his salt would too. You have to remember it was the genesis of the liberal media and body counts were all the rage. BTW we celebrate our losses as well..ever heard of Custard, Battle of Bunker Hill, et al?
See like within one month of the tet we caought a viet cong and one of our sarges ask whos winning the war?
The viet said u r.
And then sarge said whos gonna win this war??
The viet said we r.
Sarge ask y?
Cuz u guys r moving out.
And another reason was cuz of our south viet allies they show no justice watso ever to there prisoners the chef of police in south vietnam killed a viet cong with out mercy.
I hate going back here .. Another 2 nights with no sleep . But the fucked up part is I would do it all over again .. Is that fucked up or what . God hold my fallin brothers .till I get there ..Peace
I took care of a guy that was a NCO at Ia Drang in my OR recently. He's a little old guy now and his lungs are all smoked out. But damn what a stud he was. I really respect him. Hats off indeed! I am just in awe of these guys.
i keep forgetting that they didn't even have flak vests in those days, so basically you we're pretty much fucked if you got shot just once. those American soldiers fucking kicked ass. I'm not American but people should be damn proud of those guys.
Im a Kiwi in Australia, and have just finnished Hal moore and Joe Galloway's book. "We were soldiers Once, and young."
Amazing book, amazing story and an even more incredible way to say thanks to a handfull of heros. Well done guys and may we all never forget what was done there by you.
@gunerfly I don't know what a 'Kiwi' even IS. I feel so ashamed. But I DO KNOW what an Australian IS, and that's a darned-good person, by ANY standard-of-measure! On a Christmas Eve, may you and yours have a Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year, friend.
@tallpaul88 1st i dont like "88" on your user name cos im sure you know what that means and 2nd "kiwi" is a NewZealand bird and us Australians nick named them that and they seem to like it.
@gunerfly what about the ANZACs at long tang???they could of suffered the same fate as the lost platoon at la drang valley (being almost over runed) but yeah they did do a good job,yanks and Aus/NZ both did good jobs
In 1966, my husband of 2 weeks left me to spend one tour as a door gunner with the great First Cav Div (Airmobile). Two years later, he returned to VN with the First Cav and then we PROUDLY spent the next 24 years in the Army. This all seems like it was just yesterday. Please read Gen. Moore and Joe Galloway's followup book: WE ARE SOLDIERS STILL. It is excellant! We did NOT lose that war nor did we lose any battles. Our govt. just pulled our troops out per Paris Peace Accords. Ha!what a joke.
While I honor your husband's service and your sacrifice, I disagree with you that we did not lose the war or any battles. That is a fallacy promoted by the military.
Please read "About Face" by Colonel David H. Hackworth. He was a contemporary of General Moore and they were great friends in and out of Vietnam. ("Hack" wrote a blurb on the front page of Moore's book.) We made the same mistakes the French made. Also try "Street Without Joy" by Bernard Fall.
Thank you. Like me we experienced it. We didn't read about it. I've never read Colonel Hackworth's books but there are so many that want to gain from the horrors that many experience. We never lost a battle in Vietnam. It doesn't matter if it was because of the weapons we had it was because of the men like your husband. Callenge1 is an idiot. Like a lot of cowards they stand on the side lines and attack the brave everytime they can.
Don't read Hackworth's books. But, please do read General Hal Moore's book about the battle of Ia Drang and then see the movie. My husband arrived in-country soon after this battle was fought and he was at An Khe where these men were based. This book and movie haunt us, even our 34 year old daughter, who is a proud Army brat. She has always been so curious about what Daddy did in the Army before he came home and she was born years later. This answers her questions. Thank you for your service.
Please read from bottom to top. Then go get the book and read it. The movie does not do the book or the actions of those men justice. Some only had a day or two left in country and they got on those choppers without thinking twice. This was before the war was controversial.
"I can't promise you that i will bring you all home alive, but this i swear i will be the first one to set foot on the field and i will be the last to step off, and i will leave no one behind. Dead or alive, we all come home together" Lt-gen Hal Moore 7th air cavalry
man, your brain has shrunk, all the vietcong had was an ak47 and a handful of rice, the US
army and air force threw everything they had at them, they even poisoned them with agent orange, more bombs were dropped on the VC than were dropped throughout ww2 and they still kicked your ass!, you gotta admire those vc boys!
they never kicked our ass 2 million of them died and 58,000 Americans died, but we never surrendered to them south vietnam lost the war not the united states
That's very right.We never lost a battle. President Ford agreed to leave if the North would not attack.Once the US left the North invaded,(1975)they did.The US had carriers in the south china sea and could have attacted but didn't.Jane Fonda should be proud that her efforts helped put an end to the US involvment.But the blood of over 2 million South Viets that were killed and the millions that were put in camps is on her hands. Smiling she also simulated shooting down American Aircraft.Sicko.
hashoff69: You claimed that you and your brother had met Col. Hackworth, did you ever read his book "About Face?" He sure as shit thought we lost the war.
The Vietnamese had fought the Chinese for 1,000 years, the French, the Japanese and the French again. The US made the same mistakes the French did.
You can piss and moan all you want about Jane Fonda or what the fuck ever, but the war was fought with the wrong strategy and tactics. THEY were fighting for their homeland. We fought for????
I was a plt.Ldr with the 25th inf. div. when we went into Cambodia.I was a 19 year old Lt. We destroyed the enemy.I returned to Vietnam for a second tour.I was a 20 year old capt and commanded a company with the 101st Airborne Div.When we went into Cambodia we were up against N. Viet regulars.We killed entire divisions.After we went into Cambodia there was very little resistance for the rest of my tour.The 25th was sent home and I was assigned to the 2nd field force. The S. Viets lost in Laos.
Wow, more comments from the peanut gallery. My brother talked to Col. Hackworth because the Col. was interested in my father's part in world war II. My father was with the 29th Infantry Division and was put in for the medal of honor. My father didn't want to talk to the Colonel so my brother talked to him. It was about world war II. I have chose not to read the lies that have been printed about Vietnam and to not watch movies like Hamburger Hill, Platoon and other movies about vietnam.
Stupid ass they had missles from Russia and China, tanks and other modern weapons. When we went into Cambodia we destroyed them. Because of idiots like you, we left. No surrender we left. The North promised to stay out of the South and leave the war to the South and Viet Cong. They attacked anyway.Idiots like you don't relize that you can't take the word of dictators. Maybe next time, we will do the right thing. Also many Chinese soldiers were killed and captured.
"When we went into Cambodia we destroyed them." What part did you actually play? Were you a grunt or a REMF? The whole point of going into Cambodia (thank you MR. Nixon) was for the South Vietnamese to take the lead and press forth with Vietnamization. Without US Air and artillery, they squatted and got the shit shot out of them.
For such a dumb fuck, you sure are loose with assigning "Idiots like you." You don't know me from jack shit!
Had I read this I wouldn't have been so nice. People like you make me sick. Your nothing but a fucking coward. I was there. You have no idea what happened. Read dumb ass. The North could do nothing for months after we went into Cambodia. Your nothing but a stupid fuck who would piss his pants if he had to stand up for something. Crawl back into your hole where you belong
Are you an IDIOT?? Communist China and N.Vietnam didn't start throwing in the children for sacrifice until about half way through the war, I'm guessing about 1969 or 70, plus the fact that we were out numbered by about 10 to 1. Kudos to you and all your knowledge.
Thank you for your comment. My career soldier husband spent two tours in VN as a helicopter door gunner. Not very safe, huh? Thank you for
respecting the job that he did all those years ago. He is just now having people shake his hand and say THANK YOU! It's nice, but it surely would have been nicer 42 years ago. Oh, well, he knows when he retired that he had done his job well and that his America was protected. Thank you again, chubbyzy618
Hal Moore in his book "We Were Soldiers Once And Young" explained that the Air Cav could not find the enemy in the area of operations they were given. At last they were given their head to look were THEY thought the enemy was. What ensued was some of the most vicious fighting of the Vietnam War. They landed right at the foot of the mountain the VC called home. At one time Moore's reserve was his radio operator, his Sgt. Major and himself.
If you look at the comments below you will see references to fighting children...nonsense...small men. You'll see someone say they only had AK-47's...nonsense. Do you think they beat the French with just AK's?
After the battle Moore went to firebase Falcon. There he met with artillerymen that had been firing day and night for his troops. He did not want their salutes, he went to each man, shook their hands and thanked them. "If you don't have anyone else's gratitude, you have mine."
If you reflect on the number of civilian deaths caused by communist control of Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia, and their attempt to extend their "revolution" into Thailand, you will begin to get some perspective. Closer to home, in light of the fact that we have slaughtered about 39,000 citizens a year on our highways since the early 60's, it does seem insignificant.
the marines and army are traind to kill.. so that is a huge acomplishment.. but other than that nothing.. this war was pointless. nothing to be acomplished. But you gotta respect the men
Those Vietnamese soldiers fought for independence against the French, (look up Dien Bien Phu for the final battle) and then the Americans. They were often using ordinary rifles against automatic weapons, had no air cover in any battle in either of those wars, had almost no armor, and yet won both times!! Those are the real ultimate warriors. Talk about tough conditions... marching for days with no food under constant bombardment just to get to battlefields where they'll be outgunned... amazing..
The NVA & VC had some advantages: they fought on their own land that they knew better & they also fought for their homeland. The NVA was well equipped by the USSR and China (arms, etc). The VC became rather minor after a while. The VC were mainly just "hit and run" attackers that didn't engage in long battles with the US. The North and the the US both had good soldiers. The US won every battle but lost the war when the will to carry on died, when "victory" became hard to measure
Great book by Joe Galloway "We were soldiers once..and young" which was the basis for the Mel Gibson movie "We were Soldiers". Harold Moore and all Vietnam Veterans are among the greatest soldiers to grace a battlefield in my opinion. They face hellish conditions that had previously never been imagined. While,like Iraq,the war was fought for the wrong reasons,we must honor and support the troops. Oppose unjust wars but always honor and respect the brave troops. Vietnam vets are special to me.
Don't even start to compare Nam to Iraq. Trust me when I say I know a thing or two about Iraq. Not anyone's fault but the American people for following the WMD excuse in, & if you try to use the oil excuse I got one word for that, Canada. AKA 3rd largest oil reserve in the world is still fighting in Iraq. Iraq is about maintaining a political & military foot hold in the region "just in case". Sure enough Iran has cancelled its nuclear program, maybe cuz we have troops right on their doorstep?
Did they completely mess up Colonel Hal Moore's name?...The caption says Col. Hal Mohr, the person depicted by Mel Gibson in, "We Were Soldiers" was Col. Harold Moore. Colonel Harold Moore was the only Colonel on the ground at La Drang.
fivestarmichael 2 months ago
it don't mean nothin
s6u6r6f6 3 months ago
to fight with them must be a privilige an to die beside them would be an honor GOD BLESS AMERICA
kd12345ism 4 months ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
@kd12345ism
so go sign up retard
shoot some women and children
god fuck america
erasmus55 4 months ago
@erasmus55 Go fuck yourself kiwi
swatgod205 3 months ago
@erasmus55 killing babys and napalm on ladys... hoorah
2fly4u274 3 months ago
@erasmus55 asshole let me guess your a stupid 12 year old from mexico who came here illegally
hnt456 2 months ago
@erasmus55 you worthless fuck, go be a prick somewhere else, you 0.02 cents are not needed here
nodmessenger 2 months ago
nice description.....the landing zone X-Ray is also in the movie called WE WERE SOLDIERS right?
Akhtum100 9 months ago
@Akhtum100
The movie was made from the book "We Were Soldiers Once... And Young". Which was written by Joe Galloway and Gen. Hal Moore about the battle in that valley. Rick Rescorla was on the cover of the book. He died in the twin tower attack helping many escape.
13ECHO20 9 months ago
@13ECHO20 oh thx for the info brother....really appreciate it
Akhtum100 9 months ago 2
paint it black by the rolling stones
diecargal 11 months ago
The Song is, "Paint It Black".
10isben 11 months ago
GEN. Hal Moore was a true American fighting man we should be so lucky to have one amoung us such as him today.
snooch1975 1 year ago 2
what`s the name of this song???
horiasec 1 year ago
@horiasec The song is (Paint it black) by The Rolling Stones
oldsmar2 5 months ago
Hal Moore is an awesome soldier and American ! A true role model for todays youth ! God Bless you Gen Moore.
dermorichard 1 year ago
to hal moore's point of veiw to the movie it was exactly like what happend there and he also said "i have never seen a vietnam war movie that accurate as this one in my life" <<<somthing like that.
Eshayzbra96 1 year ago
@ladymadonna the troops after the battle were walking to landing zone Albany and got caught in a l shaped ambush 150 cab were killed but all you here about is lz
brickchruch 1 year ago
The cab is the shit but why doesn't.anybody talk about lz albany
brickchruch 1 year ago 2
@brickchruch I want to talk about Albany. My brother was killed there. I was 8 yrs old. 17NOV65 Larry Gwin's book "Baptism" is real. Albany was a cover-up and is to this day. My small rural west Tennessee will not acknowledge a real American hero but post signs of basketball teams and will sure give you a speeeding ticket. I will talk about Albany. Danny E. Carlton 2/7 17NOV65 Alpha Co 1st platoon. He is more than just a name on a wall.
ladymadonna0001 1 year ago
"My wife had no real concept of where I had been, even though I had written every day. A new stress was in our relationship that is hard to describe.
... my wife's family barely acknowledged that I had ever been gone. Did they know I had just returned from war? If they did, they acted as though it didn't matter."
-Just read {The Vietnam conflict} I really hope if we have learned anything from having our troops fight over seas it would be to greet and reintegrate them into our heart/society.
Orangebike666 1 year ago
@Orangebike666 I am glad you come home and share your empathy of HELL. I was eight when my brother was killed at Albany 17NOV65. Cover-up then and is to this day.
ladymadonna0001 1 year ago
@ladymadonna0001 The quote was from a book I was reading, not from a personal experience. I just wanted to share that I found it sickening to hear about how some troops were greeted coming home from Vietnam.
Orangebike666 1 year ago
paint it black!
soulleskill 1 year ago
a kiwi is from new zealand. An aussie from australia. And Anzac is australia new zealand army corps
gunerfly 1 year ago
book's way better then the movie
worldwar2player 1 year ago
God bless them all
husky500cr 1 year ago
Nice one lordfabri. We shall never forget those who served. Nice footage too.
Goonerton 1 year ago
The Commie Marxist is in the White House now.
flybouy11 1 year ago
watch "we were soldiers" with mel gibson. It covers the whole battle at LZ Xray. Great movie.
jdafender 1 year ago
@lordfabri its paint it black
rayisakilla337 1 year ago
@rayisakilla337 yes, thank you!
lordfabri 1 year ago
If you were not there, you have no idea how it was.
Howardraz 1 year ago
General Moore is my personal hero!
RadioNuiPek 1 year ago
great footage..those guys earned there paycheck on that trip..the horse has never been rode,the line has never been crossed, the yellow stands for itself
hoppy8199 1 year ago 2
@lordfabri
u r wrong :D song name is Paint in Black by Rolling Stones
Vygis17 1 year ago
Thank you Gen. Moore .
mucprin 1 year ago
... and I might add, apes in the wild do the exact same thing (forming waring parties/controling territory). so by acting like a retarded nutcase violent white/black american youre literaly doing/being the exact same as your ape brethren in the jungles and forests of africa
MrHarry46 1 year ago 2
deltapunk youre obviously an extremely emotional and brainwashed american. youre still young enough to think your government wouldnt lie to you. you still think there is a santa claus too Im sure. no nation fights for any other reason other than money or control of commodoties. control of territory = control of every commodity on that land. your politcal associations and alliances are merely the social tools needed to band up and fight to keep or maintain or take land
MrHarry46 1 year ago 2
This has been flagged as spam show
"go up to your address bar, put the letter "Q" between the words you and tube, then press enter or click go
dynamiccantelope 2 years ago
you guys watched that film we were young and soldiers from mel gibson? how accurate was the film compared to the real story? what about the 1986platoon ...that film was awesome
PEDROCLASSIC 2 years ago
@PEDROCLASSIC WE WERE SOLDIERS was 75% accurate, 25% Hollywood: Gen Moore. Platoon was pure fiction but I think it was loosely based in the My Lai massacre.
AccordGTR 1 year ago
@AccordGTR Yeah back then who cares about atrocity when you're a young Marine having just witnessed one of your buddies in your platoon maimed by a booby trap. besides it was hard to tell whos's who. VC, NVA, or simply VC sympathizers, you'd be full of rage all the time
PEDROCLASSIC 1 year ago
@AccordGTR i thought the movie PLATOON was about the 25th inf. div fighting near cu chi. the MY lai massacre was a different incident. i think it was a company from the Americal division of the US army who were involved. not sure. i remember this story from the 80s. TIME magazine covered this story. horrible.
PEDROCLASSIC 1 year ago
i remember this story from the 90s growing up where a platoon was nearly wiped out, no support, no security..they just walked through the NVA and was ambushed ....the very first major war in the vietnam ..... long live the 1st cav !!
PEDROCLASSIC 2 years ago
the US military did NOT lose in vietnam. remember, Vietnam was all about RUBBER. in the 1800's France invaded/colonized vietnam. by 1960 Michellin(FR) had VAST rubber tree plantations growing there. US tiremakers depended on vietnam for raw rubber for their car tires. if vietnam "fell to the commies" the US auto industry would have been devastated.
the only reason USA pulled out of vietnam was US tiremakers struck deals with other rubber producing countries AND synthetic rubber was invented
MrHarry46 2 years ago
All that killing suffering, misery, and death, for money. Shortsighted, not seeing the big picture, not aware God or the value of precious life. How many innocent children suffered for the evils of this horrible war. In the big picture God will punish all those who used their freewill to exploit others in this world. The bible is very clear about this. There is no hiding place from the father of creation.
HealingVibrations 2 years ago
Ya i keep telling people that just like i tell them Germany won world war 2 and Hitler lived to be a old man ruling Germany and had lots of children.
ArnoldSlate 2 years ago
youre simply a brainwashed american schill...the US Gov propaganda machine did PERFECT work during the vietnam war
MrHarry46 2 years ago
@MrHarry46 At least I got chicken.
ArnoldSlate 2 years ago
@MrHarry46 You are such a fucking liar it wa snot about rubber stupid. France cololianized it suring the leftist era dn brought communsit stupidity to it that criminal and french agent/comintern ho and his french buddies colluded in destroying the VNQDD and mass mrudering 1 milion people causing 2 million to flee as refugees even whiel the borders were *closed* totalitarian soviet style
deltapunk21 2 years ago
There is actually a good movie about the Vietnam war: Platoon.
globe255 2 years ago 2
Apocalypse Now...even better
rodcre8s 2 years ago
@rodcre8s Apocalypse Now was shot in the Phils. My friend who is Filipino Chris Castillejo played a US G.I. I liked the movie but for a Vietnam War movie, it was kinda ridiculous. I liked Full Metal Jacket which was at least more realistic since it was based on the Tet Offensive and Battle of Hue. I liked Platoon but it wasn't really based on any specific battle, was it? I think those early movies kinda made the war look ridiculous. Only WE WERE SOLDIERS made it look like it was glorious.
AccordGTR 1 year ago
@globe255 ...there is actually a great movie about this very 4 day battle in the hills of the back woods vietnam and the courageous men who fought it.....it called: "we were soldiers"
hoppy8199 1 year ago 2
@hoppy8199 Look for another Youtube video of Moore when he said, "Read the book it is 100% factual. But the movie is only 75% factual and 25% Hollywood." hahaha Most Hollywood war movies are just to sucker young people into thinking war is glorious and "Duty is Honor". But fact is, many wars are unjust and wastes young people's lives to die for US commercial and imperialistic interests.
AccordGTR 1 year ago
@AccordGTR, Same as Communist propaganda & movies that extoll the 'glorius' struggle against anyone that isn't a communist & that causes the unnecessary deaths of many people. Mao killled up to ~30-million Chinese, Stalin rom a good 10-million to ~20-million or so Soviet citizens, Pol Pot maybe ~2 to ? million Cambodians, ethnic Vietnamese, etc. You are a simple wannabe commie that lives in the Phillipines & is a complete jackass.
christof139 1 year ago
@christof139 hahaha sore Loser! Funny how you use numbers to satisfy your own delusions. I bet you don't even have a job
AccordGTR 1 year ago
@AccordGTR, 'Sore loser', about what? You are a complete idiot.
christof139 1 year ago
@christof139 You watch Communist propaganda movies??? Where? On Youtube? hahaha
AccordGTR 1 year ago
@AccordGTR yes your correct on the suckering in young men and women into thinking war is just and glory is the way to go. yes most wars are just wasting young lives...i know hollywood and how they twist the truth for ratings but the movie still told the story....i served in the 1st Calvary Division thats where the old saying comes from..." the horse has never been rode, the line has never been crossed, and well the yellow stands for itself"...Moore was one of the greatest commanders ever
hoppy8199 1 year ago
@hoppy8199 I commend you for your bravery and sense of duty, as well as your honesty for educating others out there. I never fought in any war but have had friends who served in Vietnam both from the Phils and US. Anyway yes Moore was a true pro cuz he valued the lives of the men under him. I wonder if the US has any more top-level officers like him? I suspect that his generation are way different than the younger officers of today. He had the guts to disobey an order from Westmoreland?
AccordGTR 1 year ago
@globe255 platoon is a pretty terrible vietnam film, i am very into the vietnam war, to all those people watching this video i woud strongly recomend the book we were solders once... and young. written my hal moore himself, and the film we were soldiers, both good and informative about this battle in '65
iliketravian 1 year ago
I remember when i saw this on tv first time. Anyway the Vietnam war has gotten a kind of romantic spot- maybe because it is a well known war photographic/film and discussed. It was a special time. At the same time it was the hippie period/free sex and all that oh man......
globe255 2 years ago
I served regular army infantry from 1981 to 1984, I never met a piss ant high ranking NCO in any unit I was assigned to. All my seargents were combat veterans from Vietnam war. Infact one of my best buddies was the First Seargent for the company Grebe. Lots of shots of whiskey with TOP. TOW platoon CSC Company 2nd Battallion, 22nd Infantry mechanized 4th Division, United States Regular Army
bearing44 2 years ago
It takes a good man to win a war, it takes an even better man to admit his defeat. Suck it up fellas :)
Scarecroweb 2 years ago
I got something you can suck - you little piss ant...
GunsAndPoker 2 years ago
@Scarecroweb The Americans never lost a major battle in Viet Nam. It was the pressure built up by the media which made it impossible for us to give the South Vietnamese the support they needed to resist the invaders from the north.
The troops who served in Viet Nam were among the best this country has ever sent to war. So why don't you go fuck yourself.
P.S. Sorry about that.
robshannon 2 years ago
The U.S. military did not lose in Vietnam, they were withdrawn (1973). The south Viets lost it in 1975.
WuMing509 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
we didnt lose nothing we felt sorry for the little basturds and gave um a break
snooch1975 2 years ago
umm no there never was a myth about battles and we lost veitnam.....
agul20 2 years ago 2
That's the myth.
lithopoonwit 2 years ago
@agul20 actually we kinda didnt south veitnam couldnt defend them selfs we got out before the war ended so technocoly we didnt lose anything
Marinelover13 1 year ago
@agul20 allies won battles but lost the war,due to those hippies(mostly)and high casualtie rates
Eshayzbra96 1 year ago
The evening news and Johnson administration undermined the U.S. soldier's victories in this war.
museack 2 years ago
@museack You guys ought to quit blaming your own press and politicians. Maybe you prefer communism where there is no free press or elected officials? You Americans are funny, complain about anything and everything then turn around and say you are the best blah blah blah. Maybe you guys are the best in trash talking and blaming everybody else for the world's problems but yourselves. LOL
AccordGTR 1 year ago
POor soldiers
such young guys
and they had to got killed into such a fuckin envoronment
war
rostrifred 2 years ago
is this guy cryin at 0:59
if he is
it's because something tough had happened
cuz military guys are the toughest I've met
as my dad
Greetings form Costa Rica
Pura Vida!
rostrifred 2 years ago
God bless Col. Moore and the men of the 7th CAV.Most of these soldiers were 19 years old.
MrQuetzalquatal 2 years ago
The song says 19, but actual reports say 23.
Sasherra 2 years ago
fuckin invaders, you lose in vietnam. ih ih ih
scarvasa 2 years ago
How were we invaders??? the N.V.A. invaded the south and killed innocent people.. We went in to help our South Vietnamese ally.. Thats not invading ok thats helping a friend...
BoriMarine187 2 years ago
that's invading to save a friend, its okay
koolwilly123 2 years ago
@scarvasa No we didnt plus we invaded because North Vietnam was murdering innocent people in South Vietnam and they needed our help. We pulled out because of Nixon BEFORE the war was over.If we felt like it we could have nuked Vietnam.
coby110798 1 year ago
The same ones who put us in Vietnam pulled us out. Those boys who were sent over there never got the respect that they deserved from their country. And not to mention our govt murdered our president. The one man that wanted to change things. There would have never been a Vietnam war if JFK would have not beend murdered. And it wouldnt have lasted as long if the Govt didnt murder Bobby too. So its up us. You the individual American citizen. We surround the Govt. They do not surround us.
toyoubecritic1 2 years ago
Wake America and Take your country back! Put your Credit Cards down, leave your consumer goods at the door and start using your brains. Turn of the corporate media confusion, they are all tryants anyway! This is Revolution of the Mind, if that don't work than come take it from me Tryants. Give me liberity or give me death because he who stands for nothing, will fall for anything!
USMCTEXANFORLIBERITY 2 years ago
The reason we "lost" the Vietnam War is the lack of will shown by the US public. Same thing now is happening. The dumbest thing the terrorists could do is to attack the US homeland now and re-ignite public opinion. If they just wait a while the Pelosis and Harry Reeds will have us pull out with our tails between our legs.
tomvar53 2 years ago
well said.
no matter what people should support our fighting men in what they do.
for nothing else, then for the morale of the men out there fighting.
same thing is happening here in the UK.
in fact, muslim dogs here are allowed to mass protest our boys homecoming parades, calling them "the butchers of basra", and other such filthy lies.
i hate it, i have 2 cousins fighting, and am fiercely proud of them
w0bbl3r 2 years ago
We didn't lose, the Media lied and crushed us, so the people back home turned their backs on us Vets. Shame on u all. Welcome Home my Brothers & Sisters. Remember March 29th always now. It is Vietnam Veterans Day forever...
gsully125 2 years ago
America never lost a single battle in Vietnam.
toyoubecritic1 2 years ago
poor boy...
MightyIndy 2 years ago
FSB ripcord was overrun by the NVA, its a myth that the USA never won any battles there are others ive read about that are often not mentioned.
sexymalcom1970 2 years ago
Very true.
toyoubecritic1 2 years ago
I made a mistake with my wording. The USA did lose some battles, the myth is the USA never lost any battle. FSB Ripcord is one such lost battle where the base had to be abandoned under heavy NVA fire. Battle of Ong Thanh is another example and there are videos on youtube showing the combat. The US however won all their major campigns (Search and Destroy missions)
sexymalcom1970 2 years ago
i was with the U.S Army and U.S Marines in Falluja ( camp dogwood) in 2004, and like the man says, you Americans were a pleasure to work with, {one hard battle we won} good look to ya all,and great vid.. retired Black Watch Scottish Soldier...
Gillmeister2465 2 years ago 2
You always see footage and stories about this part of the conflict but not the battle (massacre) at LZ Albany just 2 miles from LZ X-Ray. America only likes to tell the stories where they win.
wpditerl 3 years ago
same with any other country.
acidshockzero 3 years ago
Hardly a massacre. lol The US recieved approximately 155 or so dead while the NVA were in the range of between 1500-1900 dead. I will take those numbers any day. And any commander worth his salt would too. You have to remember it was the genesis of the liberal media and body counts were all the rage. BTW we celebrate our losses as well..ever heard of Custard, Battle of Bunker Hill, et al?
Leyenda1 2 years ago
You celebrate Custard?
belisariusorb 2 years ago
Yes. Don't you read history?
Leyenda1 2 years ago
Lots of it, but I never heard of Custard in history.
belisariusorb 2 years ago
You havent heard of Custard? He's right up there with Captain Cheescake and Sergeant Moonpie. haha
hajishack79 2 years ago
Hilarious comment. I laughed for 5 minutes.
pagerrules 2 years ago
But ya still lost the war... HOW!
iDJLaMark 3 years ago
because of the politicians
andreChris69 3 years ago
Wich led to the disaster of the tet offensive.
See like within one month of the tet we caought a viet cong and one of our sarges ask whos winning the war?
The viet said u r.
And then sarge said whos gonna win this war??
The viet said we r.
Sarge ask y?
Cuz u guys r moving out.
And another reason was cuz of our south viet allies they show no justice watso ever to there prisoners the chef of police in south vietnam killed a viet cong with out mercy.
shouavaj12 3 years ago
No, the USA didn't lose the war the South Vietnamese Army just caved in, the USA left long time before.
Tralgit 3 years ago
I hate going back here .. Another 2 nights with no sleep . But the fucked up part is I would do it all over again .. Is that fucked up or what . God hold my fallin brothers .till I get there ..Peace
edleew 3 years ago
I took care of a guy that was a NCO at Ia Drang in my OR recently. He's a little old guy now and his lungs are all smoked out. But damn what a stud he was. I really respect him. Hats off indeed! I am just in awe of these guys.
tnbamainfidel 3 years ago
they did have flak jackets just many did not wear them because of the extreme heat
1ssmiller7 3 years ago
song????
lumos1992 3 years ago
paint it black
rolling stones
not good morning vietnam as one person says.
mehstfu 3 years ago
i keep forgetting that they didn't even have flak vests in those days, so basically you we're pretty much fucked if you got shot just once. those American soldiers fucking kicked ass. I'm not American but people should be damn proud of those guys.
Bound4War 3 years ago
Im a Kiwi in Australia, and have just finnished Hal moore and Joe Galloway's book. "We were soldiers Once, and young."
Amazing book, amazing story and an even more incredible way to say thanks to a handfull of heros. Well done guys and may we all never forget what was done there by you.
To the fallen
Lest we forget....
gunerfly 3 years ago 10
@gunerfly I don't know what a 'Kiwi' even IS. I feel so ashamed. But I DO KNOW what an Australian IS, and that's a darned-good person, by ANY standard-of-measure! On a Christmas Eve, may you and yours have a Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year, friend.
tallpaul88 1 year ago
@tallpaul88 Kiwi slang for New Zealander
Eshayzbra96 1 year ago
@Eshayzbra96 Fair-enough, but NOW what's a 'Kiwi'? Isn't that an Australian bird of some type, or what I once used to polish my combat boots?
tallpaul88 1 year ago
@tallpaul88 1st i dont like "88" on your user name cos im sure you know what that means and 2nd "kiwi" is a NewZealand bird and us Australians nick named them that and they seem to like it.
Eshayzbra96 1 year ago
@gunerfly what about the ANZACs at long tang???they could of suffered the same fate as the lost platoon at la drang valley (being almost over runed) but yeah they did do a good job,yanks and Aus/NZ both did good jobs
Eshayzbra96 1 year ago
Damn one can only imagine what it would be like if it was one who was there. Thanks for the soldiers!
jaimesandoval1988 3 years ago
GARY OWEN!!!!
avermillion 3 years ago
In 1966, my husband of 2 weeks left me to spend one tour as a door gunner with the great First Cav Div (Airmobile). Two years later, he returned to VN with the First Cav and then we PROUDLY spent the next 24 years in the Army. This all seems like it was just yesterday. Please read Gen. Moore and Joe Galloway's followup book: WE ARE SOLDIERS STILL. It is excellant! We did NOT lose that war nor did we lose any battles. Our govt. just pulled our troops out per Paris Peace Accords. Ha!what a joke.
tchr6798 3 years ago
Hi,
While I honor your husband's service and your sacrifice, I disagree with you that we did not lose the war or any battles. That is a fallacy promoted by the military.
Please read "About Face" by Colonel David H. Hackworth. He was a contemporary of General Moore and they were great friends in and out of Vietnam. ("Hack" wrote a blurb on the front page of Moore's book.) We made the same mistakes the French made. Also try "Street Without Joy" by Bernard Fall.
Callenge1 3 years ago
Thank you. Like me we experienced it. We didn't read about it. I've never read Colonel Hackworth's books but there are so many that want to gain from the horrors that many experience. We never lost a battle in Vietnam. It doesn't matter if it was because of the weapons we had it was because of the men like your husband. Callenge1 is an idiot. Like a lot of cowards they stand on the side lines and attack the brave everytime they can.
hashoff69 3 years ago
Don't read Hackworth's books. But, please do read General Hal Moore's book about the battle of Ia Drang and then see the movie. My husband arrived in-country soon after this battle was fought and he was at An Khe where these men were based. This book and movie haunt us, even our 34 year old daughter, who is a proud Army brat. She has always been so curious about what Daddy did in the Army before he came home and she was born years later. This answers her questions. Thank you for your service.
tchr6798 3 years ago
Please read from bottom to top. Then go get the book and read it. The movie does not do the book or the actions of those men justice. Some only had a day or two left in country and they got on those choppers without thinking twice. This was before the war was controversial.
Callenge1 3 years ago 2
Air Cav!!!
"I can't promise you that i will bring you all home alive, but this i swear i will be the first one to set foot on the field and i will be the last to step off, and i will leave no one behind. Dead or alive, we all come home together" Lt-gen Hal Moore 7th air cavalry
jnsmbv 3 years ago 4
This has been flagged as spam show
man, your brain has shrunk, all the vietcong had was an ak47 and a handful of rice, the US
army and air force threw everything they had at them, they even poisoned them with agent orange, more bombs were dropped on the VC than were dropped throughout ww2 and they still kicked your ass!, you gotta admire those vc boys!
223fox 3 years ago
they never kicked our ass 2 million of them died and 58,000 Americans died, but we never surrendered to them south vietnam lost the war not the united states
rem2008 3 years ago
That's very right.We never lost a battle. President Ford agreed to leave if the North would not attack.Once the US left the North invaded,(1975)they did.The US had carriers in the south china sea and could have attacted but didn't.Jane Fonda should be proud that her efforts helped put an end to the US involvment.But the blood of over 2 million South Viets that were killed and the millions that were put in camps is on her hands. Smiling she also simulated shooting down American Aircraft.Sicko.
hashoff69 3 years ago
hashoff69: You claimed that you and your brother had met Col. Hackworth, did you ever read his book "About Face?" He sure as shit thought we lost the war.
The Vietnamese had fought the Chinese for 1,000 years, the French, the Japanese and the French again. The US made the same mistakes the French did.
You can piss and moan all you want about Jane Fonda or what the fuck ever, but the war was fought with the wrong strategy and tactics. THEY were fighting for their homeland. We fought for????
Callenge1 3 years ago
I was a plt.Ldr with the 25th inf. div. when we went into Cambodia.I was a 19 year old Lt. We destroyed the enemy.I returned to Vietnam for a second tour.I was a 20 year old capt and commanded a company with the 101st Airborne Div.When we went into Cambodia we were up against N. Viet regulars.We killed entire divisions.After we went into Cambodia there was very little resistance for the rest of my tour.The 25th was sent home and I was assigned to the 2nd field force. The S. Viets lost in Laos.
hashoff69 3 years ago
Wow, more comments from the peanut gallery. My brother talked to Col. Hackworth because the Col. was interested in my father's part in world war II. My father was with the 29th Infantry Division and was put in for the medal of honor. My father didn't want to talk to the Colonel so my brother talked to him. It was about world war II. I have chose not to read the lies that have been printed about Vietnam and to not watch movies like Hamburger Hill, Platoon and other movies about vietnam.
hashoff69 3 years ago
Stupid ass they had missles from Russia and China, tanks and other modern weapons. When we went into Cambodia we destroyed them. Because of idiots like you, we left. No surrender we left. The North promised to stay out of the South and leave the war to the South and Viet Cong. They attacked anyway.Idiots like you don't relize that you can't take the word of dictators. Maybe next time, we will do the right thing. Also many Chinese soldiers were killed and captured.
hashoff69 3 years ago
"When we went into Cambodia we destroyed them." What part did you actually play? Were you a grunt or a REMF? The whole point of going into Cambodia (thank you MR. Nixon) was for the South Vietnamese to take the lead and press forth with Vietnamization. Without US Air and artillery, they squatted and got the shit shot out of them.
For such a dumb fuck, you sure are loose with assigning "Idiots like you." You don't know me from jack shit!
Callenge1 3 years ago
Had I read this I wouldn't have been so nice. People like you make me sick. Your nothing but a fucking coward. I was there. You have no idea what happened. Read dumb ass. The North could do nothing for months after we went into Cambodia. Your nothing but a stupid fuck who would piss his pants if he had to stand up for something. Crawl back into your hole where you belong
hashoff69 3 years ago
The US was not ready for guerrilla warfare let alone Guerrilla Diplomacy.
Callenge1 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Jesus! LOOK AT 2.50- they were only fighting against children! and they still needed every
thing they could muster to fight them!-good job those viet cong boys had no tanks and helicopters and stuff-they could have taken over America!
223fox 3 years ago
Are you an IDIOT?? Communist China and N.Vietnam didn't start throwing in the children for sacrifice until about half way through the war, I'm guessing about 1969 or 70, plus the fact that we were out numbered by about 10 to 1. Kudos to you and all your knowledge.
bluduc 3 years ago
poor soldiers....
veggieta 3 years ago
whether it was our war or not you still gotta respect these men for wat they did just as you would respect one from Operation Iraqi Freedom
chubbzy618 3 years ago 3
Thank you for your comment. My career soldier husband spent two tours in VN as a helicopter door gunner. Not very safe, huh? Thank you for
respecting the job that he did all those years ago. He is just now having people shake his hand and say THANK YOU! It's nice, but it surely would have been nicer 42 years ago. Oh, well, he knows when he retired that he had done his job well and that his America was protected. Thank you again, chubbyzy618
tchr6798 3 years ago
hi!
Could somebody write what is he talking? Something like subtitles...here in comments...
Thank you very much!
Numian 4 years ago
Hal Moore in his book "We Were Soldiers Once And Young" explained that the Air Cav could not find the enemy in the area of operations they were given. At last they were given their head to look were THEY thought the enemy was. What ensued was some of the most vicious fighting of the Vietnam War. They landed right at the foot of the mountain the VC called home. At one time Moore's reserve was his radio operator, his Sgt. Major and himself.
Callenge1 3 years ago
If you look at the comments below you will see references to fighting children...nonsense...small men. You'll see someone say they only had AK-47's...nonsense. Do you think they beat the French with just AK's?
After the battle Moore went to firebase Falcon. There he met with artillerymen that had been firing day and night for his troops. He did not want their salutes, he went to each man, shook their hands and thanked them. "If you don't have anyone else's gratitude, you have mine."
Callenge1 3 years ago 3
The book is: "We Were Soldiers Once And Young," by Lt. General Harold Moore and Joseph Galloway. Printed in 1998 or 2001, I can't remember.
Callenge1 3 years ago 2
What a terrible mistake.
sexyjimmyface69 4 years ago
58 000 us KIA
50 000+ us veitnam vet suicides since the end of the war
get your kill stats right
ap03at 4 years ago
What did the death of 30,000 soldiers accomplish in Vietnam? Just asking.
y2knoproblem 4 years ago
If you reflect on the number of civilian deaths caused by communist control of Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia, and their attempt to extend their "revolution" into Thailand, you will begin to get some perspective. Closer to home, in light of the fact that we have slaughtered about 39,000 citizens a year on our highways since the early 60's, it does seem insignificant.
enilkmike 4 years ago 2
the marines and army are traind to kill.. so that is a huge acomplishment.. but other than that nothing.. this war was pointless. nothing to be acomplished. But you gotta respect the men
capufool 4 years ago 4
Those Vietnamese soldiers fought for independence against the French, (look up Dien Bien Phu for the final battle) and then the Americans. They were often using ordinary rifles against automatic weapons, had no air cover in any battle in either of those wars, had almost no armor, and yet won both times!! Those are the real ultimate warriors. Talk about tough conditions... marching for days with no food under constant bombardment just to get to battlefields where they'll be outgunned... amazing..
kakashi76767 4 years ago 2
The NVA & VC had some advantages: they fought on their own land that they knew better & they also fought for their homeland. The NVA was well equipped by the USSR and China (arms, etc). The VC became rather minor after a while. The VC were mainly just "hit and run" attackers that didn't engage in long battles with the US. The North and the the US both had good soldiers. The US won every battle but lost the war when the will to carry on died, when "victory" became hard to measure
mitchdfla 4 years ago 2
Great book by Joe Galloway "We were soldiers once..and young" which was the basis for the Mel Gibson movie "We were Soldiers". Harold Moore and all Vietnam Veterans are among the greatest soldiers to grace a battlefield in my opinion. They face hellish conditions that had previously never been imagined. While,like Iraq,the war was fought for the wrong reasons,we must honor and support the troops. Oppose unjust wars but always honor and respect the brave troops. Vietnam vets are special to me.
Methadone4Life 4 years ago
Don't even start to compare Nam to Iraq. Trust me when I say I know a thing or two about Iraq. Not anyone's fault but the American people for following the WMD excuse in, & if you try to use the oil excuse I got one word for that, Canada. AKA 3rd largest oil reserve in the world is still fighting in Iraq. Iraq is about maintaining a political & military foot hold in the region "just in case". Sure enough Iran has cancelled its nuclear program, maybe cuz we have troops right on their doorstep?
hazonku 4 years ago
paint it black
shamuslauer1 4 years ago 2
the x ray flight was named after my uncle
stormsos 4 years ago
what was it name to? war junkie? or baby killer? or white hooded god loving creture?
SimplyLatino 4 years ago