@indyfan7798 If you just want something realatively inexpensive and aren't a professional, go with the MicroKorg. It would be fun to fiddle around with.
Ah...the MS20. At one time you get them really cheap but then they shot up once EVERYONE you can think of began using it frmo Justice to MSTRKRFT to Goldfrapp to Air the list goes on and on. I got one in 2007 (not cheap) and will never part with it. The little brother MS10 is also no slouch. The fact that you can plug a mic into this and modulate your voice like Allison Goldfrapp is just amazing. It's a weird crazy machine that's ridiculously versatile.
@d3mrp0 felt mountain by goldfrapp is one of my favorite records (and i listen to everything) and the gear list on that album is insane- that guy who worked with her has a monster analog synth collection including ems stuff along with the awesome ms 20- check out the felt mountain documentary where you get a quick glimpse of the studio gear
I think the best demonstration of the power of the MS20 would have to be Mr Ozio's Analog Worms attack. combine this with a tape echo, you got yourself one mammoth sounding synth :c)
I know a dude that has a brand new Moog Voyager and he has NO IDEA how to use it and it just sits there most of the time. Another dude I know has an old ARP Little Brother and he uses the hell out of it coaxing great electronic sounds from it......creativity?...like nuxus2nexus states...in the end it's what you do with it.
I was commenting on the "destroy creativity" crap. I agree the new Korg synths are junk for sure. Korg has not had a cool synth in like 15yrs. But in the end its what you do with it.
I had one of these synths in the late 70's, we plugged it into a wem copicat echo and a flanger during gigs and simply by twiddling a few knobs would destroy any member of the audience on any type of drug, later on I got a sequencer for it and with that we would send peoples heads into reverse - I hated the digital stuff -stifled creativity - PEOPLE NEED KNOBS TO TWIDDLE!!!!....along with various appropriate drugs.
I'm gonna move to analog once I have the money for this expensive equipment. Right now I'm stuck with FL Studio, and my next investment will probably be a MIDI keyboard to plug into my PC, which I'll then process with FL Studio (if anybody has any advice on that, I'm open).
You remind me how important it is to actually be able to play an instrument tho' =]
@PeakOfAwesome If you're talking just any USB MIDI controller with a couple rows of knobs, I love my Xboard 61. At the same time, nota bene that I got it out of the box with some of the weights dangling off of the backs of the weighted keys, so you might be stuck re-supergluing a few of them back. Your mileage may vary, but otherwise, I like it a lot, didn't even need to install drivers or anything, and it just worked, plug-and-play. Just stay away from the M-audios, they feel like garbage
get a souncard! i allways give vids like this bad rewiev! if you tend to show a musical instrument thats many purpose is it´s sound! record it properly!
I used to have one of these. Got it in the mid to late 70's. It was somewhere around $400 if I remember. Now they're going for a couple of thousand. I don't think they're worth that, but I sure wish I still had my MS-20.
@bubblabu They have an iPad app, it's EXACTLY like the ms-20 plus more, its sounds AMAZING(though obviously not perfect) It even has more and because of continence and saving and downloading, I would rather pay $15 for the app over the real one anyday.
@omnipitantlyoriginal the wires are called patch cables. They are used to send a control voltage from one module to another thus linking them. That way you can e.g. patch the lfo output to the filter envelope to create oscillator controlled filter sweeps.
which should i get an MS-20 or MS-50...... I know there alot of MS-20 fanboys out there and it IS the more popular one........ but which is more versatile.... give me an UNBIASED answer please.....thank you
That's really naive, it makes the right sounds, it sounds right, you can play it, so it's an instrument, just an instrument for this century. As much as I love analog synths, there's a limit to what sounds you can get with them, please tell me you realize that.
Yes, I do realize that, and that's what makes them so special. I feel with instruments like the Oasys they are so powerful and so open-ended that they can destroy creativity, and the technology defeats humanity. Analog is having resurgence now because it was a confusing new toy when it emerged, and now we completely understand how to effectively use that technology to create great sounds. Future generations will learn how to use computers effectively, deconstruct them to find its flaws
fair point apart from, how exactly do open synths such as the oasys destroy creativity? because personally i think that they have opened up creativity with a much broader range on sounds and abilities rather than an analog synth (which are great) that is more restricting creativity wise and yes, analog synths do require alot more skill, i know
@phatmoose94 This is where things stray a little bit from objectivity. A lot of people can find beauty and art with perfection, and if you can, more power to you. We live in an age of computers, and if you can speak the language, keep at it. Personally, I find beauty in faults; understanding them and working with them to create a powerful outcome. So a monophonic analog synthesizer with an external patch bay is second nature to me. This is a pointless argument, really. It's all relative
@nexus2nexus Which Joint? He´s absolute right. KORG, as almost all other Synth-manufacturers today, produce workhorses and not innovations. They announce a new model and all they do is adding a set of new functions into the DSPs, give the Synth a new face and thats all. Is that the so called innovation? Analog components are cheap as hell today; they -could- make analog synths. Should i tell you, why they do not? 1st money, DSP is cheap, 2nd because they have -no- knowledge about it. They -had-.
@elanmak Dude it's called evolving. If you don't evolve and keep living in the past, where the hell does that get you. It's one thing to be a purist and quite another to be an ignoramus - You remind me of those middle-aged men refusing to listening to any records past 1975. Grow up, let the past be and learn from it but evolve. that's life.
@kunstssst just because time passes doesnt mean weve evolved- im 40 and think most records before 1975 were in fact better - i listen to all stuff from all eras and think songwriting and sounds are in fact becoming worse- digital being the main culprit- analog still sounds better to me and to many others- im willing to evolve if theres actual improvement- not just easier ways to make music ! i use modern gear because i cant afford alot of analog stuff but wish i could
fucking 1337. i've always wondered why some company does'nt just go out and buy the designs/patents/get permission for these and manufacture classic analogues again. that way some normal punters could get their hands on nice analogue gear like this
im sure someone has but korg wouldn't ever sell them to anyone, and even if they did -if resulting product was really worth it- it would still be 700-800 bucks which is about 300 bucks off of getting a real ms 20
logged a lot of time on my friends ds with that. it never really sounds analogue though. it's fun. but it doesn't achieve the sound it's based on. i didn't expect it to either.
dargh, i never expected it to, it has almost nothing in common soundwise to the ms-10 other than likeness. the ds-10 sounds great in a VERY analogue modeling way
look and you will find. ive always wanted a korg delta, and recently imported one from japan after years of searching. avoid ebay, look for private synth forums, always great second hand gear going. i know where you could get 3 MS10's and an Delta right now!
I have an MS-10 which I love but I've always wanted its big brother the MS-20. There was a time when you couldn't give these things away: everybody wanted digital. Now these monophonic analog synths are sought after. I saw one on eBay for almost 2000 dollars US. Youch.
And in early 80s they used these incredible machines only to get strings imitation! Listen Human league f.e -- they used all these stuff and tried inly imitate orchestra. What a waste!
the cables are called Patch Cables, the term "patch" evolved from the early days of swapping cables around to create a sound, and sort of stuck with it to the days of pressing buttons :)
what would be the best type of keyboard to get that make cool electronic sounds or even dubstep sounds
indyfan7798 4 weeks ago
@indyfan7798 If you just want something realatively inexpensive and aren't a professional, go with the MicroKorg. It would be fun to fiddle around with.
rcmeyerson 1 week ago
i love the ms -20 but aslo the " powerful and open-ended" instruments korg makes nowadays
it's all the same:powerful instruments to make music
javoutube1 1 month ago
amazing mashine
questionerizator 1 month ago
If anyone in NZ or Australia is selling a Korg MS 20 legacy CONTROLLER, NOT the MS 20 synth, please private message me.
inmyazuredreams 2 months ago
MS-20. A dirty, filthy, disgusting BEAST! Love it!
harmoncollege 5 months ago
Ah...the MS20. At one time you get them really cheap but then they shot up once EVERYONE you can think of began using it frmo Justice to MSTRKRFT to Goldfrapp to Air the list goes on and on. I got one in 2007 (not cheap) and will never part with it. The little brother MS10 is also no slouch. The fact that you can plug a mic into this and modulate your voice like Allison Goldfrapp is just amazing. It's a weird crazy machine that's ridiculously versatile.
d3mrp0 7 months ago
@d3mrp0 felt mountain by goldfrapp is one of my favorite records (and i listen to everything) and the gear list on that album is insane- that guy who worked with her has a monster analog synth collection including ems stuff along with the awesome ms 20- check out the felt mountain documentary where you get a quick glimpse of the studio gear
salvadory 1 month ago
I think the best demonstration of the power of the MS20 would have to be Mr Ozio's Analog Worms attack. combine this with a tape echo, you got yourself one mammoth sounding synth :c)
ElasticMinds 7 months ago
@ElasticMinds : one of my favourite albums! So friggin heavy
benhoughtonmusic 4 months ago
haha just throws a pile of patch cords
brw0044 7 months ago
røyksopp!
norwedgianawesomenes 7 months ago
I know a dude that has a brand new Moog Voyager and he has NO IDEA how to use it and it just sits there most of the time. Another dude I know has an old ARP Little Brother and he uses the hell out of it coaxing great electronic sounds from it......creativity?...like nuxus2nexus states...in the end it's what you do with it.
alcatras4 8 months ago
I was commenting on the "destroy creativity" crap. I agree the new Korg synths are junk for sure. Korg has not had a cool synth in like 15yrs. But in the end its what you do with it.
nexus2nexus 8 months ago
@nexus2nexus I've heared the EMX is really good, but then again I don't know anything about synths :)
elvenwoor 7 months ago
Hi everyone, 90% all of synth parts in this track were made with my 1982-ish MS-20! thought i'd share >>> watch?v=9Gszd2fgqMs
R0MANSS0N 8 months ago
this synth makes me cum
hummmer11 8 months ago
What a fucking machine
mrjamesx 10 months ago
I had one of these synths in the late 70's, we plugged it into a wem copicat echo and a flanger during gigs and simply by twiddling a few knobs would destroy any member of the audience on any type of drug, later on I got a sequencer for it and with that we would send peoples heads into reverse - I hated the digital stuff -stifled creativity - PEOPLE NEED KNOBS TO TWIDDLE!!!!....along with various appropriate drugs.
ZEROTHEHERO1960 11 months ago
Now *this* is operating a synth. No saved patches here, brothers...
ElevenBravo 1 year ago
That is a deadly saw XD
TheChosenOneOfficial 1 year ago
Mr.Oizo made Flat beat in two hours with this
elusivemanbearpig 1 year ago 3
I'm gonna move to analog once I have the money for this expensive equipment. Right now I'm stuck with FL Studio, and my next investment will probably be a MIDI keyboard to plug into my PC, which I'll then process with FL Studio (if anybody has any advice on that, I'm open).
You remind me how important it is to actually be able to play an instrument tho' =]
PeakOfAwesome 1 year ago
@PeakOfAwesome If you're talking just any USB MIDI controller with a couple rows of knobs, I love my Xboard 61. At the same time, nota bene that I got it out of the box with some of the weights dangling off of the backs of the weighted keys, so you might be stuck re-supergluing a few of them back. Your mileage may vary, but otherwise, I like it a lot, didn't even need to install drivers or anything, and it just worked, plug-and-play. Just stay away from the M-audios, they feel like garbage
evenmorebetter 1 year ago
ahhhh so RAW! i love it
Fred66613 1 year ago
get a souncard! i allways give vids like this bad rewiev! if you tend to show a musical instrument thats many purpose is it´s sound! record it properly!
sounds like my ass..
petersedin 1 year ago
@petersedin
I have never heard an ass that sounded as gorgeous as this machine can and does.
xeronicus 1 year ago 5
@xeronicus it is a pretty gorgeous ass, isn't it?
thermalmaximum 11 months ago
2:18 -2:21.........sounds like fucking first prodigy-album........howlett did the most parts of it with the ms 20
manifatzigula 1 year ago
IT'S A BEAST!
plastikmang 1 year ago 3
what a beast.
my4trackmachine 1 year ago
1:58-2:09. epic
behindmybedroomwalls 1 year ago
I used to have one of these. Got it in the mid to late 70's. It was somewhere around $400 if I remember. Now they're going for a couple of thousand. I don't think they're worth that, but I sure wish I still had my MS-20.
bubblabu 1 year ago
@bubblabu They have an iPad app, it's EXACTLY like the ms-20 plus more, its sounds AMAZING(though obviously not perfect) It even has more and because of continence and saving and downloading, I would rather pay $15 for the app over the real one anyday.
rathat48 1 year ago
Could someone tell me if you can use this as a regular MIDI keyboard as well?
SeaBayce 1 year ago
@SeaBayce with a synth connected
blocparty4life 1 year ago
@SeaBayce The MS-20 does not originaly have MIDI.
pitchnplay 1 year ago
@SeaBayce The Korg MS-20 does not originally have MIDI
pitchnplay 1 year ago
only 1 word. epic
EliasElElias 1 year ago
MS-20 #FTW !!!
AugZF 1 year ago
OH-MY-FUCKING-WHATEVER! These sounds are pure Eargasm. I have wanted an MS-20 for ages, but now I crave it even more. Thanks for the demo! : )
ASP1S 1 year ago
i only want one of these because mr oizo made flatbeat on one :)
samdaftpunk 1 year ago
What are the wires for?
Like what do they do?
omnipitantlyoriginal 1 year ago
@omnipitantlyoriginal the wires are called patch cables. They are used to send a control voltage from one module to another thus linking them. That way you can e.g. patch the lfo output to the filter envelope to create oscillator controlled filter sweeps.
dudewhosaysarrh 1 year ago
which should i get an MS-20 or MS-50...... I know there alot of MS-20 fanboys out there and it IS the more popular one........ but which is more versatile.... give me an UNBIASED answer please.....thank you
KaslarProductions 1 year ago
Not convinced on the wisdom of having a jumble of patch cords tied together.... seems like a great way to scratch up a vintage instrument.
theoriginalmrsm 1 year ago
damn thats raw =P
kil0z 1 year ago
No deep !
gaetanomariadigiorgi 2 years ago
I'm not even trying to mess around with all them wires! Daaaang! Shoot.
YvesIsaki 2 years ago
Can you believe the garbage KORG makes today? How the hell did they get to the hole they're in now with this monster in their resume?!
elanmak 2 years ago 37
I would say they're doing some pretty awesome stuff. How is the korg oasys garbage exactly?
metabog 2 years ago 4
@metabog because the MS-20 is an instrument, the Oasys is a computer, that's why
elanmak 2 years ago
That's really naive, it makes the right sounds, it sounds right, you can play it, so it's an instrument, just an instrument for this century. As much as I love analog synths, there's a limit to what sounds you can get with them, please tell me you realize that.
metabog 2 years ago
Yes, I do realize that, and that's what makes them so special. I feel with instruments like the Oasys they are so powerful and so open-ended that they can destroy creativity, and the technology defeats humanity. Analog is having resurgence now because it was a confusing new toy when it emerged, and now we completely understand how to effectively use that technology to create great sounds. Future generations will learn how to use computers effectively, deconstruct them to find its flaws
elanmak 2 years ago 27
@elanmak
fair point apart from, how exactly do open synths such as the oasys destroy creativity? because personally i think that they have opened up creativity with a much broader range on sounds and abilities rather than an analog synth (which are great) that is more restricting creativity wise and yes, analog synths do require alot more skill, i know
phatmoose94 2 years ago
@phatmoose94 This is where things stray a little bit from objectivity. A lot of people can find beauty and art with perfection, and if you can, more power to you. We live in an age of computers, and if you can speak the language, keep at it. Personally, I find beauty in faults; understanding them and working with them to create a powerful outcome. So a monophonic analog synthesizer with an external patch bay is second nature to me. This is a pointless argument, really. It's all relative
elanmak 2 years ago
@elanmak I love both the ms-20 and oasys, I dont think the oasys destroys creativity very much though, not any more than a ms-20 can.
cowcrusher 9 months ago
@elanmak Did you smoke a joint before coming up with that garbage theory?
nexus2nexus 8 months ago
@nexus2nexus Which Joint? He´s absolute right. KORG, as almost all other Synth-manufacturers today, produce workhorses and not innovations. They announce a new model and all they do is adding a set of new functions into the DSPs, give the Synth a new face and thats all. Is that the so called innovation? Analog components are cheap as hell today; they -could- make analog synths. Should i tell you, why they do not? 1st money, DSP is cheap, 2nd because they have -no- knowledge about it. They -had-.
TheMCMXXL2 8 months ago 3
@elanmak Dude it's called evolving. If you don't evolve and keep living in the past, where the hell does that get you. It's one thing to be a purist and quite another to be an ignoramus - You remind me of those middle-aged men refusing to listening to any records past 1975. Grow up, let the past be and learn from it but evolve. that's life.
kunstssst 1 month ago
@kunstssst Just because you stop living in the past, doesn't mean you're evolving.
AnotherRandomGeek 1 month ago
@kunstssst just because time passes doesnt mean weve evolved- im 40 and think most records before 1975 were in fact better - i listen to all stuff from all eras and think songwriting and sounds are in fact becoming worse- digital being the main culprit- analog still sounds better to me and to many others- im willing to evolve if theres actual improvement- not just easier ways to make music ! i use modern gear because i cant afford alot of analog stuff but wish i could
salvadory 1 month ago
@metabog
i love that synth!! Karma for the win!
i've played one once :)
$8000 is too much for me
KaslarProductions 2 years ago
@elanmak
They make incredibly dull products that also look boring.
Except for Kaossilators.. Oh and Monotron is a step to the right direction, but still not so awesome as the old korg products.
gombie 1 year ago
@elanmak what are you saying? just every band today has a microkorg! (which is quite the best synth ever for its price range)
fooosco 1 year ago
@elanmak it's modern marketing. everybody works today like this...
fedalxis 1 year ago
@elanmak how is the microkorg garbage you stupid fuck
charduff 7 months ago
liam howlett uses this right?!
pm64837 2 years ago
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yes he does
damnationdefied777 2 years ago
yeap
miuziqa 2 years ago
To my knoledge he uses a moog prodigy but i dunno about this..
aintellengreat 2 years ago
Beautiful lovely amazing piece of gear. Epic and classic.
emoraz 2 years ago
ive pm'd you the url. as you cant put em in comments.
zoso11 2 years ago
Mind if I get that link also? Thanks!
zantos1o1 2 years ago
fucking 1337. i've always wondered why some company does'nt just go out and buy the designs/patents/get permission for these and manufacture classic analogues again. that way some normal punters could get their hands on nice analogue gear like this
tekkentool 3 years ago 4
im sure someone has but korg wouldn't ever sell them to anyone, and even if they did -if resulting product was really worth it- it would still be 700-800 bucks which is about 300 bucks off of getting a real ms 20
keagankeagankeagan 2 years ago
good point, i know these were built like titanium bricks. but theres still something very satisfying about new gear :D
tekkentool 2 years ago
You could buy the DS-10, which is essentially an MS-10 in the form of a DS cartridge :)
Kouban 2 years ago
logged a lot of time on my friends ds with that. it never really sounds analogue though. it's fun. but it doesn't achieve the sound it's based on. i didn't expect it to either.
tekkentool 2 years ago
thats simply cause its not analog.:)
thrcman 2 years ago
dargh, i never expected it to, it has almost nothing in common soundwise to the ms-10 other than likeness. the ds-10 sounds great in a VERY analogue modeling way
tekkentool 2 years ago
look and you will find. ive always wanted a korg delta, and recently imported one from japan after years of searching. avoid ebay, look for private synth forums, always great second hand gear going. i know where you could get 3 MS10's and an Delta right now!
zoso11 2 years ago
thanks for the advice! whats the website?
tekkentool 2 years ago
yes! THANK YOU. greatest youtube comment ever.
liedowninthelight 2 years ago
yeah i know some companies are doing it. i think doepfer or someone is remaking oberheim SEM modules.
tekkentool 2 years ago
Love your demo, though dont record the entire room next time. I got an MS 20 and know how noisy the keys sound.:) Good stuff!
thrcman 3 years ago
anderssorensenms - you are correct, as you can hear him sit down, tap the keys on the keyboard and then plug in the patch leads in.
the sound is also kind of 'roomy'
deeperthanhouse 3 years ago
can someone help me ? i dont understand - is his synthesizer plugged to a speaker , and then the mic. on his camera hears it , or what ?
anderssorensenms 3 years ago
I have an MS-10 which I love but I've always wanted its big brother the MS-20. There was a time when you couldn't give these things away: everybody wanted digital. Now these monophonic analog synths are sought after. I saw one on eBay for almost 2000 dollars US. Youch.
Darrylizer1 3 years ago
what type of music do people usually use these for -- techno?
killallemos666x 3 years ago
Anything. Techno, Hip-Hop, Industrial, Space Rock, Drum'n'Bass....
thedivinechemical 3 years ago
yeah i saw a brilliant live drum n bass act at a festival, and i saw them setting up the synths. i got excited when i saw this!!!
hectorsland 3 years ago
did you saw it on youtube? can you write the link plz?
spider853 3 years ago
no it was a concert. i didnt film it.
hectorsland 3 years ago
i love this synth, you could just think up any strange sound and put that sound into this amazing little box!
hectorsland 3 years ago
lol that's a freaky instrumept!
lanoid 3 years ago
i would like to have one, it's wonderful
iardo92 3 years ago 3
one of the best synths i've seen
rohleks 3 years ago 3
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I have one of those.
catmandabomb 3 years ago
i want this thing
it sounds so extraordinary
Earlotion 4 years ago
And in early 80s they used these incredible machines only to get strings imitation! Listen Human league f.e -- they used all these stuff and tried inly imitate orchestra. What a waste!
MargusKiistheCritic 4 years ago 3
from dare onwards ok, but not on their first 2 lps repoduction & travelogue!
Jauly 4 years ago
and that only with one patch. wow
begin to imagine what this box would be capable of
TilmanBaumann 4 years ago 3
Well it's a kind of semi-flexible thing. I guess plugging in a new cable constitutes changing patch.
poorsod 4 years ago
It does, and it doesn't have no memory if i remember right so gigging with it... well happy patching on the fly =)
divyx 4 years ago
the cables are called Patch Cables, the term "patch" evolved from the early days of swapping cables around to create a sound, and sort of stuck with it to the days of pressing buttons :)
ClintonOddfellow 4 years ago
Thats Definitely Goldfrappe Like! And Now We Shall Duel In Super Mario - Centroid - Astroids!
NestleQuic 4 years ago
How much did you pay for it???
carlosnata 4 years ago
I hear Goldfrapp (Black Cherry album).
cw28pn2 4 years ago
awesome! btw, would you happen to know how to refer to that effect you used while holding the key at around :57? i love that sound!:D
yarou151 4 years ago
He's modulating the hi-res filter frequency with an LFO.
poorsod 4 years ago
Hi-pass filter, right?
randunivac 3 years ago
yeah, you know what you're doing. well done.
RetroDate 4 years ago
Hey how o you produce all of the clicking sounds that go on between 15 seconds and 25 seconds?
They sounded cool (8^)
nudist0885 4 years ago
Lol? That's he moving the patch cables...
woot192837 4 years ago
HAHA
gold medal over here
silvastomp 3 years ago
nice man!
hansje25 4 years ago